Great vid and awesome attachment to cut vertical siding. Really great ideas bare great success. Your siding jig in my book is a great success. Also from your vid I learnt that if buying logs to do this, you don't always get what you want. So keeping that in mind plus the siding is not CVG grade, if anyone attempts this on their own to take that into consideration.
Nice job with that jig. Just a suggestion, when sawing cedar I always remove each cut off the cant, basically I draw it back as the saw is heading down the next one. This way I can see when the shake, rot, insect surprises are starting to show up. If you had seen the bug damage in the first board you could have gone to dimensional cuts and salvaged 1x 6 or so out of several of those rather than having odd shaped kindling. Also - watch your pith, you split it right down the middle there, you always want to box the pith even if it means changing the pattern you are sawing, otherwise your lumber will twist and warp. Like I said, just a suggestion from a guy that runs a WM and sells siding from it, but again good job there.
Thanks, Jim. This was more or less a “test run” of the new jig. I was kind of more interested in seeing what kind of production was possible and how the thing functioned over all. I’ll be sure to pay closer attention if I’m sawing for a customer. Thanks again for taking time to comment!
This is one of my favorites, you have some of the best saw mill videos out there, Nathan can only wish , maybe give him a lesson or two on editing videos 😂
Awesome! watching this in 2020 just after the fire. You have a way of converting all those burn snags into clapboards for the neighbors as they rebuild. Local self reliance will get people thru!
Ingenious rig. Well done ! Classically, beveled siding is all vertical grain. Cedar (white cedar) is often a smaller tree. The tree is first turned to a round log. nominal 13 inch diameter for 5.25 and 18 nominal for 7.25. The cuts are made the on the radians with the blade the length of the log or a circular blade running thee length on the radians only. You are left with a 1.75 to 2.5 inch dowel the full length of the log that is supposed to have the center rings in it.
I cut true quartersawn siding on my Woodmizer. I need at least 18" logs ( we have white pine) Then quarter the log, and with a table fixed at the right angle we cut the bottom board, remove the quarter and remove the board....quarter goes back on and another board is cut. the height setting on the band is never changed. Pretty soon the quarter gets lighter and can be moved easily between cuts.
I want one of those jigs for my Cooks saw here in the southeast. Your jig would make a great aftermarket accessory and looks like it could be easily adapted for manual mills. Surprised Wood-Mizer hasn't come up with this idea.
Hello, I just built a siding jig for my Hud-son mill. The jig raises 1/2" when tilting. I can't seem to get the scale increments right. I make two cuts 5/8" and two pieces come out perfect. Then the third cut comes out way too thick. Any insight would help. Kilted Sawyer suggested you.
Thanks for sharing. Too bad about the bug damage. Cool jig, it will pay for it's. My folks took their trees to a neighbor to have them milled. They had red cedar on their property.
Well done sir, Really pleasant video in the:InformationFormatNarration. I watched it twice. Looking forward to more.Also enjoyed the thoughtful comments from others
Brother you are making such a difference to all us rural fans. Almost have my wife on board to get an LT35. You are my favorite site to watch. I knew you were somewhere nearby. I'm in Molalla, any chance we could meet? Great job on you're videos and craftsmanship... Mike
That is awesome! I’m right up the road from you between Estacada and Colton. Shoot me an email to 5tonfabrication@gmail.com. I’m actually sawing as we speak. I’ll get back to you tonight.
Great video! You make me want to buy a Wood Mizer! Unfortunately, they're just not in my future right now! Maybe one day! The jig is awsome! Great job!
@@NorthwestSawyer Well, I can always use my 401k! We'll see! Thanks again brother! At 68 I'm still eager to work! It's inspiring people like you that keep me going! Keep the videos coming!
@@NorthwestSawyer I probably could if I wasn't retired but now there's nothing going into it. I like to see the routes people take to succeed. My friend, it looks like you've done it! I love doing physical labor when it's productive like what you do. Now, I do a lot of scroll work making Christmas Ornaments out of imported woods and recycled pallet wood. People go nuts over them, but I'm a physical labor guy. I really do want one though! We'll see! Thanks for responding to my notes!
Unfortunately it was destroyed in the wildfire that came through my area two years ago. I did make a “closer look” video right after this one that might help.
Very nicely done on your home made Lap Siding maker, Love it. You have a sweet mill, I am in the market for my first mill this year, but I am looking at a much smaller, manual mill due to budget. Love your set up. Thanks for sharing and I hope you have a blessed week my friend.
Thank you! I really love working with this mill but it is my first. I started with a Woodland Mills HM 126. It’s a manual mill and I thought it was a very nice mill for the money. I hope to make a video soon to show how I started with a budget-friendly saw and ended up with my Wood-Mizer.
Oh wow, sounds like a fun story, I love the sounds of it already. Thank you for sharing, I have looked at the woodland mills very hard, i love the price and they have been so helpful as far as answering questions etc. Sounds like a wonderful video on how you got started to present, I have already subbed you, but definitely looking forward to hearing this fun story. Thanks again my friend for taking the time to reply and keep up the fun videos, PS, Love you siding maker you built, I used to have a portable welder, I am not too sure I don't need to get another one seeing all the options a guy can use just to make upgrades and mods like you have done with this one. Thanks again and have a blessed week my friend.
I would love to pick your brain sometime about all of this, I will wait and see your video, i would be willing to guess you will answer a lot of my questions and ideas I have. Thanks again my friend.
Heartland Outdoor Living I’m happy to help! I spent a lot of time on RU-vid while looking for my mills and now it’s my turn to pay it forward. Stay tuned!
Thank you but the 2-300 year old trees were cut down around 80 years ago on my property. I have some amazing stumps though! Those trees you’re seeing are less than 100 years.
@@NorthwestSawyer Wow. Yes. Here in West Texas, mesquite trees grow to about 12-15 ft max in height, and a girth of about 10-12 inches at best …😃 Thats the best we can do tree-wise.
Make pre fab storage buildings. Dog houses or planting beds i built portable planters that could be moved by forklift. People want wood working material for home shop. Build dry kiln shed stack your wood. You can call in wood grader to grade and stamp your wood for custom built cabin to pass building code. You can send out wood for custom dry kiln and tounge and groove for ceiling material.
@Jack Van Berg A friend used a plastic greenhouse as a solar heated wood dryer. Used a humidistat to run a vent fan when the air in the dryer became saturated. He had a firewood business.
That's a great idea and love watching the video, just about to buy my first sawmill, torn between manufacturers, Wood Mizer or Norwood or Logosol, did you say the clamps that lock the steel framework you made (great by the way) are these standard, thank you Ian
Just now watching this video. Don't sell your welding short. I have seen some "welders" that don't come up to yours. I think your ingenuity in making the jig was very good. I will have to watch all of your videos.
I have sawmill envy =) and I was cringing everytime you pulled a board off and it was bug damaged so bad . Such a shame beautiful wood. Great job and I look forward to seeing what else you do. Also as someone said Patent that before someone steals it and starts selling it
Thanks, Jack, the bug damaged was a bummer for sure. As far as the patent goes, I want to refine the design a bit. The design only has to change 10% to be able to get another patent as far as I know. I’m tending to some family matters right now but I have a bunch of sawing lined up with some giant Douglas fir, yew wood, cedar and pine. Stay tuned!
Looking good with the lap siding jig. I wonder how that would work with yellow popular? I enjoy you videos, and learning new things. I have a friend that has the old LT40 that wants to make lap siding I'll have to show this to him. mark
You have made a great thing in your siding jig. You need to get it patented. You may think that it's simple but look at things you buy that are simple. The guy who came up with the quick release ratchet finally collected millions from it after he went to court to make his reputation known.
Hay Brother love watching you mill work.... I see you have a LT 35 and was wondering why you chose it and if you have any suggestions for me for I am looking at getting a mill myself. I’m looking at a LT 40 wide hydraulic. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated thank you ! Nate.
Thank you, Nathan. My choice of the 35 was basically because it was the largest upgrade from my manual mill that I could afford at the time. Had I known how much money I’d be making with it, I would’ve gotten a 40 wide in a heartbeat! I’m seriously considering selling my mill and getting a 40 wide.
Great video man. I’d love to come check out your mill and lend a hand sometime if you like. I’ve done some Alaska chainsaw milling and would be great to see the wood miser in action. Looking forward to seeing more videos- I’m in SE Portland
Rob, Send me an email to 5tonfabricarion@gmail.com. I probably won’t be able to saw this weekend but I have some HUGE Douglas fit set up for next weekend in Wilsonville
Thank you! You sticker it just like any other lumber. Orient the boards so the thick side faces the same direction and you can stack multiple stacks and layers.
Smart man! Great idea. I have just started making videos myself! The hydraulic mill makes things so much easier and efficient, I'm jealous. Keep up the great content! I just put out my first of many saw mill videos how to coil and uncoil bandsaw blades. Best regards, Take care.Jason
Great invention. I don't see how the cant doesn't get pulled right off the side when your cutting it. My mill would have pulled it right off. Must be the different wood species.
Man, for a first video, you did a hell of a lot better than me! Great Jig too... I would love to see a build video on it. Maybe sell the plans or the jig itself?
R. E. Hill, thank you! I’m just trying have some fun and share the experience. I’ve learned a lot from watching others and hope maybe something I’m doing might help someone else👍🏻
Those short siding pieces on the bad boards will make a small tree house or a dandy dog house that would perfectly match the house that the good stuff goes on.
I haven't used my mill in several months. Watching your videos inspires me to use it more often. Its hard to find shiplap here, and I have several historic barns that I would like to restore. I've looked for a way to cut shiplap since I bought my first LT15 Woodmizer back in 1998. I've owned several through the years. I subscribed and look forward to seeing many more videos from you...and purchase the shiplap accessory. You should show it to Woodmizer, maybe they may license it from you.
Some forks on your tractor and counter balance on back of tractor A lumber rack on outgrew of saw sort 4x material. Pour a slab and put lumber rack on wheels for access or a rail
Yeah....I had a Woodmizer lap siding attachment at one time, same basic deal as what you have. Very clunky to use....you have to move the cant off, or at least off to one side....then put the attachment on...then wrangle the cant into the attachment, then saw siding, then remove the attachment for the next log. NOW I use two small pcs of 5/8" plywood. Saw cant to size, use peavy to cock the cant toward me and stick a plywood shim between the cant and bed rail. Saw a piece of tapered siding. Uncock the cant for the next piece...saw. And so on until you're done. MUCH MUCH easier than all that wrangling of cant and attachment.
However, one thing the Woodmizer attachment did do well was make sawn tapered roofing shingles. It had a set of 6 pipe clamps that would hold 6 blocks of wood up to 24" long. Another handle/rod/cam cocked the blocks up/down front-to-back....so as the blade passes down the rail, you'd saw a tapered shingle off each block. Now if you wanted to get in the shingle business, that method is the trick. But for siding, the shim method is the way to go.....sawed many many thousands of linear feet of siding that way.
I must not be picturing your method correctly. It sounds like you have to place shims, clamp the cant, saw, unclamps the cant, take the shims out by hand, reclamp and so-on. I don’t see how that’s easier or faster than moving a hydraulic lever up and down. Can you make a video of it? As far as “wrangling the attachment” you shouldn’t have to if you cut all your raw material into cants.
I saw a cant....stick the shims under two different bed rails, then saw a piece of siding....no clamping needed....the weight of the cant holds it in place. Remove shims for next cut, add shims for the 3rd cut, and so on. If you cut all your logs into cants, then you have to move THEM off the saw......so it's either wrangle them or the attachment....either way, more work than simply using the shim method. That is why I didn't use the Woodmizer attachment after I bought it. I thought (mistake) it would have some kind of guide to let you lower the saw head the same amount each time.....nope....you eyeball it....so heck, why use the fool thing then ? It hung on my mill shed wall for years until some guy came along and wanted to buy it to make shingles with.....the other feature it offered, and was very good for IF you want to make shingles.
There’s more than one way to skin a cat. Glad your system works for you. I guess I’d be expecting a lot more out of my jig if I had spent a bunch of money on it. You’re right about being able to use the simple set for thickness. That was the first thing I realized when I started sawing. Thanks for comments!
Unfortunately I lost the jig in the wildfire last summer. I did make a follow-up video that gave a closer look at the jig itself. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NvT_G1coP1U.html
@@NorthwestSawyer thanks. That's exactly the detail I needed to see. Very simple and effective. I have s stack of aluminum angle I'm going to use for mine.
If it wasn't for the bugs you would have had a great amount of siding. Good job on your siding jig. You could put the other siding on your dog house, that would work wouldn't it? mark
You could cut short sections and use/sell them as an interior wall finish. (Aged) cedar inside is regal, even if a little bit is rotted and worm-eaten; and even if it is just a small accent panel. Character, man!
It has completely changed the way I look at the world around me. Every tree becomes an imagining of hidden treasure. The ugliest log I’d ever seen is now a live edge slab on the front desk of my wife’s salon. It’s kind of amazing...
Thank you for the video - great jig! We will be getting a new Wood-Mizer mill for our summer camp in the next month or so. We plan to cut lots of siding... I would love to see more detail on the construction of the jig - it's a beauty! Do you have plans or a sketch you could email me?
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NvT_G1coP1U.html This is a closer look video I made on it. I'm hoping to have a drawing of it this weekend.
Wow! Fast reply - thanks. Your second video is super helpful. I look forward to being able to see some plans and see if we can build something. I'm thinking Wood-Mizer might want to purchase your idea?
Great fixture! is it worth it to pull a few boards off as you cut if you suspect damage and maybe take some thick cuts to get past the insect damage instead of using your blade for all those cuts just to throw it away?
Well, maybe if it was a hardwood. With cedar being so soft, I’m not too worried about blade wear. Plus, I was able to salvage sections of the affected boards. In the end, I don’t know that I would’ve saved any time or blade life by trying to cut out the damage.
Thanks, Jim. I tried to use the simple set but the amount you need to lower the saw head gradually changes on each cut. I did just end up eye-balling it. I don’t think you’d see a slight variance in the cuts once it’s hung on a building.
