Largest European Cities(agglomeration) in History 7500 BC - 2020. Top 11 biggest cities in Europe 

Rome was 50% of the world at that time

Barbarian invasions

@@jollybegood What are you even trying to say?

@@bujardoci7347 nah not 50%. China alone had about 50 - 60m people in that time.

Rome was just so op

@@CroPETROforeverNBA I think he knows that Istanbul isnt Constantinople, what you dont seem to understand is that he meant that the same area that Istanbul occupies today is the same as Constantinople. So Campbells comment is correct, geography plays a significant role. Also if we want to be strict while also mentioning an Interesting fact Istanbul became the official name at 1930 so the video should label Istanbul as Constantinople before 1930. Istanbul was the nickname of the city until then.

Also, I find it strange that Constantinople is the only city that isn't represented with a modern national flag of the country it is in today. And calling it Istanbul from the reemergence on the list is constant (Yes, I just noticed that pun, but it was unintentional) with others, like St. Petersburg that never is called Petrograd or Leningrad over time. They seem to only go with what they are called now. I'm very skeptical "Durrington Walls" was called that 5500 years ago.

@@nickkounanos but under Ottoman rule it's name wasnt Constantinople either it name was Konstantiniye and u are right after 1930 become Istanbul which is name that called by folk not by rulers. and Crotian dude did u see Istanbul populations and now go check to Greece population.

@@CroPETROforeverNBA all nations and empires in the past were brutal and barbaric when they had enough power. don't cry here like a pathetic just because your country or your ancestors were literally used like a piece of toy by other empires in the past.

@@CroPETROforeverNBA Easy, dog. When Turks entered city, citizens' dream came true. They finally relieved. And they'll belong to Turkey forever 😉

Why? Did ottomans ban having sex of greeks?😂

@@hakancankan2694 First of all the yenitsar camps wouldn't exist with all these non- turks soldiers. Mongols picked up the kids of the autochthonous Greek people and turned them into muslim turks. Nowadays Turks, you are the results of this kid-picking and raping of the Greek women by mongols. That's why you don't look like mongols today.

ISTANBUL IS TURK!

And what flags must be for those cities 5-6 thousands years ago?

Oh yea. And slavic names of cities, while Slavs actually didn't exist. Amazing power of Indo-Europians

Exactly. Bucharest alone has 2m, but it's metropolitan area has only 2.5m, so this city should have been on the list

@MarcT difference between definitive London (Greater London) and London Metropoliton area is relatively small compared to Paris and the city you named, but yeah the data used is clearly inconsistent between the two definitions

Yeah that's right many people mistake this two words

not really because some countries have very small citis but their metro is huge. like london citi has 30000 people when the metro area has more than 10 milion also athens the city has 600 000 people when metro has 3.5 milion

@@panosxgrx5117 “City of London” isn’t an example of metro vs city area, it’s a square mile, ancient district that takes up a chunk of Central London. It’s confusing given the name, but not a valid example in this context.

Understanable error methink, there isn't even any homo sapiens in my island back then

These are probably known "cities" . I am sure there are plenty of other larger cities, but they need evidence to archeological evidence support it.

its a miracle, remain every 10. years data to this youtuber from - 1200

Too Hip Hop is absolutely right . How can he possibly know that the population in 5050 BC was 17 ? It wouldn't even be clear that a certain year was 5050 BC ! That may seem strange, but the BC system wasn't established until centuries after Christ was born (it couldn't have been, could it ?). And nobody is really sure even now what year Christ was born, despite quite a bit of written evidence compared to most events, and a huge amount of interest. You only have to be a couple of years out with 5050 BC , and the population could easily have gone up to 20 or down to 14. Apart from anything else !

most of these data visualizations use extrapolations to fill in data from between two points in time. we couldn’t know for certain what the population was at exactly that date, so we make guesses based on dates that we do know. this is also apparent when rome’s population is falling. note the sudden change in rate of decline when the population hits 100,000.

Good observation

Constantinopla foi herdeira de Roma, era cristã ou católica seria estranho colocar a bandeira turca

​@@noorna7123причём тут христиане и мусульмане? простая историческая несправедливость... Константинополь располагался на территории современной Турции и значит флаг должен быть турецкий или тогда переделывайте весь список.... Неаполь в 10 веке не имел никакого отношения к Италии и Риму это было отдельное независимое государство и так по каждому городу

Its okey bro. We own and embrace the geography we live in and everyone who lived here before us. We respect them very much. We do not like people who are not Turks and attribute everything to the religious war, but there is no problem, we have carried the whole legacy beautifully until today and we will carry it forever. Thank you for your objective perspective.

both rome and athens were dependent for their size on the concentration of resources of the empires they were at the centers of. so when they loose the connection to those empires, they crumble rapidly since they cannot feed their own populations and people flee

@@federubio2519 i dont think athens had much of an empire but it was still the biggest player in greece before sparta and macedon crushed it.

A SEA EMPIRE. AS WELL AS KNOSSO, CARTHAGO VENICE AND AMSTERDAM @@joeljustjazzing

I have not seen a dumber video on the Internet , there were no Ukrainian cities or villages until the 1900s . Because until 1300 all the lands from Poland to the Volga region were considered Russian . The land that was constantly conquered by the Russians, then the Poles, historically became independent just because of the unwillingness of either Poland or Russia to cede this territory to each other (the territory of today's Ukraine), so looking for Ukrainian villages in ancient times is like looking for photos of dinosaurs playing PlayStation.

Your note is incorrect. It's not about the area, it's about the density. Spain tends to micro-separate his cities in tiny municipalities, so the cities tend to show a lower population than what they really had. The video is correct.

nerd

Also like Athens in 500-400 where it was the Plague of Athens and the Peloponnesian War.

And the Lisbon earthquake of 1755, which destroyed the city

It't totally unrealiscic video, the part before writing is simply fantasy (lie), but it's mostly unscientific all. Maybe looks good, but it's not true not real.

There were 30,000 deaths in Lisbon and the pop was 230,000 but because this was updated every 5 years it’s easy to understand why it didn’t decline as there was still population growth. It just slowed at that time

More or less like Detroit?

@@adamcarrillo209 way worse...

The thing is, Rome was kind of destroid and split in parts so... I think that the government of Rome these days couldn't hold their city together so the landparts that counted as Rome were not Rome anymore. The popularity wasn't as small, but the region they were counted was...

I wasnt a town, it was half europe and northern africa

Fynn no this is just referring to the city. The entire empire had 100s of millions of people in it.

Plague, couple of words wars...

The rise of Trier was when it was the capital of the Gallic empire. The downfall happened when the Franks (people from around the rhine river at that time) who were in control of Trier descided to conquer modernday France and make Paris its capital. So it isn't really that something went wrong.

I have not seen a dumber video on the Internet , there were no Ukrainian cities or villages until the 1900s . Because until 1300 all the lands from Poland to the Volga region were considered Russian . The land that was constantly conquered by the Russians, then the Poles, historically became independent just because of the unwillingness of either Poland or Russia to cede this territory to each other (the territory of today's Ukraine), so looking for Ukrainian villages in ancient times is like looking for photos of dinosaurs playing PlayStation.

@@user-muserf I don't care enough about Russia to look up whether you're right, but I kinda doubt it. Because there was no Russia nor any other modern nation in ancient times... so no difference

Lisbon here also behaves pretty weirdly. In 1755 an earthquake killed up to a third of lisbon's population but here it just kept going up. I was expecting from 1755 for lisbon to just drop out of the list.

Milano as well...

Mucho betis y mucho madri ompare

Also the bubonic plague didn’t seem to really impact the cities

I mean Berlin between 1945 and 1990 is on the list, in a time where it was two cities. It’s very inaccurate

The sudden massive expansion really shows in the city

Athens grew by a lot after the Anatolian Catastrophe. More than a million Greeks were genocided by the Turks and more than 1,2 million managed to get to Greece as refugees (hundreds of thousands more to other countries like the Soviet Union or Syria). Many of those refugees settled in Athens and so the city immediately jumped to more than a million people.

@@georgios_5342 yeah turk killed 20 million greek

True, I feel like there’s an unspoken commonality with people living in Athens, our roots are always from a different part of Greece, making Athens the fusion of all different regions

the whole West is the fruit of Greek and Roman culture

In this representation they used the actual flags, not the historic geography. For consistence it is better to keep this logic.

​​@@trattogattoOnly exception is Constantinople i guess.If only Turkish flag had been used.

"Konstantiniyye" in Ottoman language.

Excatly👍

the Republic of Turkey was established in 1923

As a Turk I can surely confirm that. After conquest of the city Konstantinopolis(City of Constantine) name turned into Konstantiniyye form which meant “Konstantin’s (place)” Apart from that many new official names were created such as Dersaadet (meaning gate of happiness), Âsitane(Sill of Gate) , Payitahtülsaltanat ( Capital of Reign) ,Derâlîyye (Gate of Great Empire) etc. This is how the name of the city was mentioned in all the edicts,official texts and records of the Ottoman Empire for centuries. Also some minorities had special names for the city as well. Yet, “Konstantiniyye”name was STILL there and was also used officially beside all these different names. Konstaniyye name always did exist and NOBODY was bothered from that name. Ottoman Istanbul or its people NEVER ashamed of bearing the name of Constantine. Therefore, there is no need for sensitivity in this regard... Also No single Turkish emperor was neither in denial of this name nor bothered to remove that name but Selim III and Ahmet III. One of this Emperors created an artificial name called Islambol and used this in official texts, though all of these files are in archives and exhibited to people today, and other guy printed Islambol name on Turkish empires coins. But after them, this temporary name vanished. After regime converted to republic from monarchy; Istanbul name came but it’s not a newly created name either. Istanbul comes from Greek word “Stin/m Polis “ meaning in the city, to the city pointing the Constantinopolis. That n/m difference is just a little phonetic change between old and modern Greek. So back then in empire, Stinpoli was just shortcut name of Constantinopolis. Because although there used to be settlements outside of city walls (e.g Galata) Constantinopolis always used for inside of City Walls (what we call in Turkish Suriçi which is about 1/25 of Istanbul) That’s why stinpolis (in the city) was pointing there. Because outside of the walls never called as Constantinopolis/Stinpolis. As they are both essentially the same thing, some Greek friends need not be bothered by usage of İstanbul name derived from Stinpoli. The same way, some minority Turkish fellows whome are being fan of so called neo-ottomanist ideology shouldn’t be bothered whenever they hear Constantinopolis name as if the new name not related to Greek. Because ottomans weren’t bothered either:) In fact contanstinopolis name given after Constantine in his honor, while he was a Latin speaker and didn’t even know Greek at all. Whereas the Istanbul name that we use now actually comes from Greek roots and it doesn’t mean any problem since there are also other Turkified names in turkey where used to be Greek name by origin. It’s quite normal. Still today in balkans there are etymologically Turkish named settlements and some of them are still in usage. You should get over with those . Istanbul is a world city after all. The name of city could be anything but no matter. what makes it this famous is its history background not any name. Being a center for 2 major religions, being capital of 2 glorious empire. It is the only city for which so much struggle has been fought, the only city that has opened and closed an era.

How is it possible, I read a book recently, written in 1656 by Adam Oleraius, “Beschreibung der muscowitischen und persischen Reise” where he describes his mission to Persia. He talks with people in Persia and they call Turkey enemies and they call the city Stanbul. If it wasn’t a name how persians called it Stanbul in that time?

Best Regards from Thessaloniki! It’s Greece’s co- capital today and second in Greece by population. The city has been continuously inhabited for about 2.300 years in its current location but much older if we count the settlements which are now located in the city’s suburbs.

Reject Thessaloniki, embrace Salunj !!! Long live Bulgaria! Remember 1015 and wait for the revenge111!!!!1

Well, I played assasins creed.

@@Gyatt_frfr are you utterly delusional or just a troll? Judging from the "111!!" can't tell.. In the chance that you actually mean it, stop threatening our peace. We have a chance to cooperate in the framework of eu and both Greece and Bulgaria should make something good out of it.

@@sarantis1995 He is a Troll Saranti, he has it in his name

данные наверняка по переписям 1939 и 1959 гг, а между ними пропорциональный рост. Невзможно по всем городам брать строгую годовую статистику

Ещё реальная ржака - древние сёла под украинским флагом 😂 Во-первых, таких данных не существует и, видимо, идиот делавший видео повелся на укропских псевдоисториков, во-вторых, выбор флага исходя из нынешнего административного подчинения более чем сомнителен

ruZZia is a terrorist state.

А украинские города, за 7500л до нашей эры?

​@@valiusvideo9212😂😂 в ролике правда начинается только с момента нашей эры , удивительно что там городища древних скайуокеров не показали . 😂😂

Maybe in the past it did sense, but today having a population that has so many children is degenerative and dumb

@@lucciocalappa no avarage kid per woman is 1.88 in turkey but in Istanbul there are so many afghans syrians etc learn before judging 😉

@@lilibra6224 and you consider it something to be proud of? That was what i meant

@@lucciocalappa nah but that aint the turks reason are arabs afghans etc

@@lilibra6224 I don’t know the situation well but once I heard Erdogan saying (to muslim people) “Go in Europe and do 4 kids each, in two or three generations Europe will be yours”. That’s the reason why, after the comment above, I supposed almost everyone in Turkey thinks good about that way. Glad to hear it isn’t true.

There are several Romantic painters that went to rome to paint the ruins, Hubert Robert for example.

I've thought the same myself. Not just alot smaller;

Kinda like Detroit.

@@mikeanderson2956 xDDDD

turkey is not Europe...get it right kid. There is no istanbul, just occupied Constantinople

The birthrate is what's going to cause the modern collapse. 70% of countries are below replacement already

I'm so glad italys populati9n will be 54 million by 2050. 2100 will habe 48 million and nigerial will have 300 million. All the mixed race and babies. So glad finally

I have not seen a dumber video on the Internet , there were no Ukrainian cities or villages until the 1900s . Because until 1300 all the lands from Poland to the Volga region were considered Russian . The land that was constantly conquered by the Russians, then the Poles, historically became independent just because of the unwillingness of either Poland or Russia to cede this territory to each other (the territory of today's Ukraine), so looking for Ukrainian villages in ancient times is like looking for photos of dinosaurs playing PlayStation.

@@benjamins8082fake news!!!

Yea ^^

@@matejbukovac4926 You mean native to Europe.

@@matejbukovac4926 its just a geographic location of those cities ur seeing on the vidio

Mostly Greece

No, slavs really weren’t there. The video shows the Modern city names. The cities of todays south slavs were built on foundations made by older civilization such as illyrians, greeks, dacians and so on

Greece was getting more popular because ofc Greek Dark Ages

@@jcbw9975 Εμείς δώσαμε τα φώτα στον κόσμο

Jerry? Is it you? I loose my clay tablet with contacts in Labyrinth

I went in Knossos 3 days ago but didn't see anything

Back then in my heyday, I was a lecturer. I do recall a rather sweaty but diligent student who went by the name of Collins. This chap never raised the issue of the lack of AC during class, though. Back then folk just made do with what they had and didn't complain.

same

Record temperatures too because of global warming 😂😂😂

Syracuse was not part of Magna Grecia. Sicily was already considered something else (Magna Grecia refers to the Italian peninsula!)

@@Giorma.u I'm pretty sure Manga Graecia refers to all Greek cities in Italy.

@@georgios_5342 yep but Sicily has started been considered part of Italy in the 19th Century, that's why this misunderstanding. While Itsly was Magna Grecia Sicily was Sikelia (in greek). The eastern part with culturally Greek cities, the western part with phoenician cities (like Palermo)

@@Giorma.u en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Graecia literally the definition of Magna Graecia includes cities in Sicily. I know that Sicily is called Sikelia and Syracuse kids definitely a Greek city, it's even obvious in its name, which has an y Graecum

@@georgios_5342 yep Wikipedoa must be updated on this! I'm sicilian and I studied sicilian history at uni 😅 (the italian wiki is different on this topic btw)

Who cares?

​@@kozzak80anyone.

because they were recorded and others werent

@@ugurrr true,but also that shows how farther ahead they were at that time.

@@wakeno.6047 and their ego killed the trend

@@ugurrr The estimation obviously comes mostly from excavation sites and less from recorded data. They simply didn't find larger cities in Europe during that era

@@DrDoomsd Maybe, but it's not as if the archaeological record is complete. It doesn't mean that a large city never existed just because it hasn't been dug up yet.

In your dreams, maybe? 😃 No need to argue about something that is like 2+2=4. Crimea has been an integral part of Russia since 1783. Wake up to reality. Crimea has: Russian passports 🇷🇺 Russian laws 🇷🇺 Russian flags 🇷🇺 Russian education system 🇷🇺 Russian investments 🇷🇺 Russian currency 🇷🇺 Russian population (70%) 🇷🇺 Russian language 🇷🇺 Russian history 🇷🇺 Russian Black Sea Fleet 🇷🇺 *CRIMEA IS 100% RUSSIA!* 🪆💁🏻‍♂️

there are no Ukrainian cities. All cities in the territory called Ukraine were built by other peoples and states

bottlesitter - What a bark from a shithole, where Moscow was built by mongolian khan Batiy, aahahh.

@@youzhacov So true 👍🏻

While Aquileia (5.01 one of the greates roman cities) is now a little village with no more than 3000 inhabitants. But it still has many roman finds.

@@Ilsindacodicooperville That's absolutely mad...

What a comeback! (In football terms)

@@Ilsindacodicooperville and don’t get me started on Sparta.

Rome is Roma and Athens is Athênai or Athína.

Totally agree, flags are out of place here. For example Maydanets, although located in modern Ukraine, was not a city, but a village conglomerate, and was a part of Tripolye culture, which covered Ukraine, Romania and Moldova territories. So it's all very messed up and confusing for people who are not "in touch" with history.

Absolutely agree, but assigning modern flag gives the viewed quick feeling abt where the city is located. Not everyone wouden recognize a flag of Ottoman enpire, if there was one of course 🤣

I think flags are good indicators, because a lot of culture has been preserved and is now represented in those countries.

I disagree for one simple fact. It may be confusing to any historian, but to all those who aren't, which is a majority of the viewers, they likely don't even know what Mongolia is, let alone the Golden Horde... but Russia, on the other hand, is a very familiar flag. Now, it's good to learn about history but to bombard the entire video with flags that don't make sense to a non-historian would not teach, and rather confuse many. For example, the Greeks contributed a lot, financially, to build Rome. But, regardless, it would be very confusion to see the Greek flag, next to "Rome" as that name belongs to "Italy".

​@@user-xw4mu6nz4t those who are not into history need knowledge, not this. There were no russia, ukraine or italy for example in 4500 BC. These people will think that ancient ukrainians is a real thing, not a joke. We will spread ignorance with this kind of misinformation.

Istanbul shouldnt be there in the first place

@@hansmohammed5486 lmao why this hate?

@@tp_exe is not hate i just don't consider it a part of europe

After the sack of Rome in 1527 it went down to as little as 10,000.

It is like to see New York's population shrink from 8 million citizens to approx 100,000. New York would certainly feel like a ghost town.

@@MatheusGalvaoS that would be exciting to see. And maybe historians will make the comparison between New York and Rome in the far future.

İstanbul🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🌉🌆

London has some pretty interesting convulsions population falls from 9.5million to 7million in the later half of the 20th century and then ramps all the way back up in the 21st.

Many other cities around the world did though like Chang'an, Hanghzhou, Beijing, Baghdad, Vijayanagara, Agra, Lahore, Dhaka, Angkor and Tokyo.

Not in Europe

@@dwarasamudra8889 yes. But this is about europe thougu

@Clau007 it was the capital of the world lmao, it had unmatched power amd size

@@DR-fc1ey it really was not, they had no influence of anything outside of Europe and the Mediterranean

Rome found itself at the border of the world of welth it itself created, soon many moved to central Europe or modern day Turkey, where things were happening and there were plenty of new resources to make one rich quickly. Lots of good smooth land. It was not the capital of the so-called Roman Empire (name coined in the Middle Ages) for the entire time of its existance: the capital was moved to other cities including Ravenna and Cologne in Germany. That answers your question, the Nero fire and other things are myths, the reality is that Rome was at the physical and economic center of its own empire only for a short time.

@@ClaudioViano Ravenna wasn't the capital till 408 CE, and "border" means at the edge of a nation. Rome was NOT at the edge; unless you think all of the West doesn't count. It does. In any case, none of that answers my question about what, if any, one specific thing brought down the City's population from 1.1 million in 90 CE to 857 thousand in 180 CE, when the Empire was at its strongest. I'm not interested in what happened AFTER 180 CE, and in fact I did suggest that economic incentives may have encouraged migration from the City. And sorry for using the term used to describe the Empire that was ruled by the Romans who had Emperors. "Roman Empire" is easier to say than: "That Big Thing in Ancient Times from Scotland to Iraq, from Morocco to Crimea". Finally, if you're going to suggest that the Fire in 64 CE didn't happen, you're going to have to cite your source. NO ONE who is serious disputes that the Fire happened. Finally, I must dispute your assertion that Rome was the center of the Empire for only a short time. From 625 BCE to the late Third Century CE (when Diocletian moved, and divided, the Western capital), is around 800 years.

​@@classiclife7204 I live in Italy and I know how worth the position Rome is in is - not much. And yes I do know that there are maritime routes as well, only the one Rome is along of is not particularly worthy - too far from mainland Europe, it's no Venice or Genoa. Rome gained new importance in recent times only for political reasons, it wouldn't be the same hadn't it been choosen as the capital of Italy. I'm not taking anything off Rome, simply because at the time Rome was a people and not just a city. i think I don't need to teach you that emperors at the time were called Princes, the entity that was later branded Roman Empire was being sold to the people of the time as an alliance of nations with a common defence system - of course it actually wasn't just that. I use the term Empire myself for simplicity, but I do know that it never juridically existed. Regarding the "Nero fire", far from me the intention of denying it, it is surrounded by myth, starting from the allegation that it was started by Nero himself to the magnitude of the consequences it had to the city. I'm a big fan of the Roman civilization and I believe that it never actually ended, just changed centers of gravity: Rome, Paris, London, Washington etc. That's why I think that the fluctuation in the number of Rome inhabitants was due to opportunities moving around in its area of influence. In my opinion Rome's (as a city) drift to irrelevance started the day Vercingetorix surrended to Caesar, opening a whole new world to the Roman people.

@@sviatoslavkyshko4615 oink oink

Yeah, I too expected to see big drops around the big wars but that didn't happen. All in all, still a fascinating exercise even though I think it might need some tighter controls on the data to get a truly accurante portrait. Nevertheless, it's still very insightful and gives much food for thought.

and Serbia ww1

It also didn't show the drop in Lisbon in 1755 after the Earthquake destroyed most of the city.

You can also see how Berlin steadily grows from 1 million in the 1880's to almost 4 million when in reality it only got to around 2 million because there wasn't any space left and then it jumped to 4 million when the Berlin metro area was incorporated into the city, including some big cities like Charlottenburg, Spandau or Rixdorf (Neukölln).

Under Dragon Ottoman Empire coming

@@krenardoci4536 *POLISH HUSSARIANS WANTS TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION*

@@winogronkowa *THE GOLDEN HORDE WANTS TO KNOW BOTH OF YOUR LOCATION*

@@winogronkowa red russians knowing your location already ^_^

Ver mehteri

Просто Константинополь относился к Византии, а Стамбул к Турции - Петербург всегда был Российским только сменили название города

Except they didn't. At least those cities pre 3000 BCE weren't Greek. The first city listed is on Cyprus and Indo-Europeans didn't settle Europe anywhere close to that years. This channel is just a Greek circlejerk.

@@minzblatt Cry kid.Cyprus was is and always will be Greek.Cyprus back then was Greek idiot thats why !

@@minzblatt why so jealous little turk?

@@minzblatt Knossos Mycenae Thebes etc was greek city states even the Italian flag cities like Syracuse was greek at that time....

@@minzblatt what is Europe? Can you search the root of the name Europe please? thank you.

Now it's a bit overpopulated, not exactly a thing to be proud of

Don't forget Córdoba

@@austrianballproductions6832 why Córdoba?

@@LiveYourLifeWithJoy binlerce yıllık Tarihi olan istanbulda yaşamaktan gurur duyuyorum . Evet belki fazla nufusu var . İstanbul için gururlanmamak nufusun çok olmasına engel değil . Yaşamayan bilemez istanbulu

@@levi_irn isso é muito bonito mas não está a aparecer a opção de traduzir, se quiseres ser entendido, fala em inglês, senão, paciência...

What's even more insane is the fact tiny island great Britain managed to become more powerful then any other European nation

That's what the industrial revolution does for you...

Immigrants, that are still pouring in today.

Well, check out the rise of Istanbul in the late 20th century - that's even more crazy.

Industrialisation and immigration, yes, causing rapid increase... but also the way the city expanded naturally to include the surrounding areas, which were previously counted as separate satellite towns and then went on to become London boroughs. All of that happened very suddenly once the new bridges connected the lands south of the Thames (which weren't counted as "London" before). So it's not like there were suddenly 6.5M people. Many of them were already there but just being counted differently.

This is just an entertaining video

@@imperium_vox The entertainment largely comes from the purported accuracy of the numbers, otherwise it's about as entertaining as those videos made for babies, just colors and movement with a little tune in the background.

urbanization. but it will fail all of us hahaha.

I agree 100%. I appreciate the effort put in to make a video such as this, yet in the first half of it it's extremely difficult to make out the names especially if the ancient cities are unknown to the viewer.

They should've inverted the position of names and number of population.

I think you should first referece the city in its proper name. Extremely disrespectful to history.

Agreed, show the number in the row and the name to the right. Half the cities are currently not even visible.

@@vesislavazheleva9977 Should have been a little more effort in my opinion.

It also shows the Black Death as being a gradual event that took around 40 years when in reality most of the deaths happened in a five year span. The software that was used probably extrapolates data between data points that are far apart, so you don’t see these kinds of events

The Black Plague was in 1346. The big one at least.

İstanbul return

I think Rome lost 1/3 of its population due a plague twice

Lan o istanbul

Also, Rome's decline happened around then because that's when it started to really become apparent that it wasnt in a secure, defensible location and that was beginning to matter more than ever. It was also becoming increasingly hard to provide for a city of that size in that location when its countryside was frequently subject to raids (hence why it started becoming utterly dependent on Africa's grain supply, which the Vandals would later take control of)

I think it's also interesting to note that it took 1500 years for another European city (London) to reach the 1 million mark after Rome's population declined so heavily.

I found it interesting that right before Constantinople was founded, Trier was the second biggest city in Europe if the data in the video is accurate.

Look the amblem of Constatinople

I have not seen a dumber video on the Internet , there were no Ukrainian cities or villages until the 1900s . Because until 1300 all the lands from Poland to the Volga region were considered Russian . The land that was constantly conquered by the Russians, then the Poles, historically became independent just because of the unwillingness of either Poland or Russia to cede this territory to each other (the territory of today's Ukraine), so looking for Ukrainian villages in ancient times is like looking for photos of dinosaurs playing PlayStation.

There was no Russia..the Kieven Rus were a thing long before the Duchy of Muscovy@@user-muserf

You understand the magnitude of the Black Plague when cities are losing up to a third of their population

Oh yeah, something happened back then... Can't recall :D

London's absolute decline carried on into the early 80's & its relative decline into the early 90's.

London's drop came from people moving out and into the countryside

@@greghallett4410 White flight?

So Roman empire was Italian?

@@bohunter6091 ''Italia'' was the name of the province and ''italici'' the name given by roman government to the citizens of this province

if you count urban areas istanbul would likely to have 20m+ people even now it has 16m turkish citizens in city and it probabily has more than a half million refugees and other people

Yeah the City of London only has 10,000 people living in it! 9 million in what most people generally call London and 13-15 in the wider metropolitan area.

Это не Москва, это деревни возле Москвы)

The urban area (that the building continuity you expect in a city) gets often mixed up with the more modern concept of "Metropolitan Area", that is an area connected by modern transportation, services and economic ties that can also include mere villages. If you take metropolitan areas Paris and London are both around 14.5M, Istanbul at 15.5 (but half of it is in Asia) and Moscow at 20M. Also to be even fairer the german Ruhr Metropolitan Area of 10M should be ranked. So the ranking should be as follows #1 Moscow #2 Paris #3 London #4 Ruhr #5 european Istanbul

Correct. Madrid is 3m for the Municipality but 7m for the metropolitan area. I think metro areas should be taken into account in all cases. The massive Madrid’s surrounding municipalities accounting for more population than in the city would not exist as such without the main city.

Another mistake which was confusing was that the population of Paris circa 2019 was 2.2 million, which the video was 9 million off of.

@@thecha4570 This probably refers to the entire urban area of Paris, all suburbs included. If the same area was used to calculate the population in 1422 the figure stated in the video would probably be right. The video description does mention "agglomeration". I can only assume that the present-day borders (incl. suburbs) have been used and projected back in time. Paris in the middle ages, despite very clearly defined outer walls, would not be just that area in this video, but Paris + villages/towns outside the city walls. People who lived outside the walls would not have been considered Parisian by any means, but I understand the necessity to add them nonetheless in order to make the geographical area coincide with the present borders.

@@thecha4570 I do wonder what they consider and define Paris to be. This number looks miles off.

The video says agglomeration, The number of the Ghent agglomeration is correct.

@@leonidasblue3973 That's possible, but the current suburbs of Ghent were mainly marsh or farmland back in 1500. Perhaps the author can enlighten us by explaining the figure.

Started Durant’s Hustory of Civilization during 2020 lockdowns. Slowly working my way through it has been a joy.

@@brantlarson421 Really glad people are still reading him.

I guess the modern day equivalent might be something like the tanks or drones getting hacked to spin in circles, hah.

I am from there! no it's a shitty village with clearly not the same prestige

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They had incredibly poor sanitation and the worst traffic in the history of the world. It was a shut show back then.

@@BenjaminIMeszaros you dont know what are you talking about, Rome had a system of sewers and aqueducts and the roads were built as in modern cities the baths were open to all, and many people had water directly at home, in medicine they had antibiotic, antibacterial anesthesia, and surgical instruments similar to modern ones, a similar result was not achieved until 1800

The amount of poor people/slaves was big too. You could store many in a cabin with ease, tho slaves back then were often treated way better than average poor romans. Many were a symbol of status, even to mere citizens.

@@padriandusk7107 then the slave after years of works they become free and citizen

Петроградом он стал после начала 1мировой войны. Революция случилась позже 1917..

In 1914 - not after the Rev0luti0n, but after the beginning of the First World W&r. The Russians did not want the city to have a German name. At that time there was still the Russian Empire and St. Petersburg (Petrograd) was the capital. The rev0luti0n was in 1917. And in 1918, Moscow again became the capital of Russia (RSFSR), and then the USSR.

@@LanaLion517 ol'right 👍

@@LanaLion517 Yes.

Declines massively at 1911, hmmmmmmmmmmmm

Not funny didn't laugh

Yes well realisticly Constantinopolis was just rome moved and given another name, all political people and supporters moved, wealthy moved, poor moved for easier life etc

@@smokybacon3662 thats propably why it collabsed right after lmao

Costantinple is nothing compared to rome glory

@@Cuoreromano90 WHAT?

@@Cuoreromano90that’s true

Half of the country moved there without any control in last 60 years, created enormous favela districts and collapsed the infrastructure & society

Turkey is pretty misogynistic and women are still viewed as baby machines. Their president, Erdogan, has stated awful views on womanhood and Turkish people still vote for him because apparently he represents the average Turkish person's beliefs. Result: Even nowadays, average child per woman is 4.1, one of the highest in Europe (if not the highest). Hence, the insane rise. Istanbul's growth is literally the result of controlling women and their bodies.

@@xyz-yu3xm No wrong. Educate yourself first before you write a comment like this

@@eren6362 yav he he..

@@xyz-yu3xm bstter u have 0 clue hahah hater

Tu sei Greco ma non lo sapeva . allora lo conosci haja

Half of Italian area down below to Greece they live there after Rome grow they push Greeks back to Greece and some stay many leaves.

@@unexplainedwearenotalone3537 DNK tra Greci e Italiani da Sicilia sono molto simili in questo momento!

@Chizzel Wizzel yeah, surely the fact I didn't know my island was the n.9 largest city in Europe 3000 years ago means I never read books... as if every book in the world mentioned that information. Maybe you should read less and think more.

In 3045, a New Yorker will says "I had no ideas, my little city was so important in 21th century. Now the powerful city is EMC Elon Musk City on Jupiter" 😂

Basically all the South of Italy was greek colony... I'm from Naples, " Nea Polis " in greek = new city 😜

@@Alex-yy4wq Yasou fratello!

@@georgiosrigas8094 una razza fratello!

Ok, so? In the video there are the flags of modern countries

@@rebeccatrivelloni9903 what about byzantium flag then???

Ancient Greeks*

Athens should have a Roman flag during the Roman Empire then.

mycene was better

@@alejandrop.s.3942 "founded" and "conquered" are different things.

@@FranciscoJG Madrid as we know it was founded by Muslims (aside from some Roman evidences in several locations), should it appear in the video with a flag which isn't Spain's? I don't know if you get my point. I understand what you mean, but it's trying to make a simple question too complex. And it's not a casuality that there're several comments of Greek guys commenting this very same detail. It's ok being proud of your history, but many Greeks whom I have run into in the internet are obsessed with these kind of things, as if there was a secret conspiracy against Greece. And this comes from a guy who's totally in love with Greece.

It's basically because it was repopulated after 1870, when it was conquered from the Pope and made capital of the Kingdom of Italy. The choice of making it capital (Turin and Florence were temporary capitals after unification, despite Naples being the biggest city) was made explicitly because of the great historical legacy, even if it was a relatively small city before that.

Small but it still kept its fundamental role of capital of christianity. I say this as an atheist, I noticed that nowadays people don't really realize how impacting was the Pope and how strongly tied Rome was to its role. It might not have figured in this chart for a thousand years, but its power was dramatic

@@drummerdavide93 Wow that's pretty cool tbh

It is over 20m now.

Modern migration from the periphery has had a big impact on major European cities and Istanbul is, and always will be first in line.

Only half of Istanbul is in Europe...

@@Cosmopavone cry more pls

@@Cosmopavone sadece Avrupa yakasında 9 milyon insan yaşıyor bu bile ilk üçe girmesi için yeterli

To be more precise it didn't existed either Grece, the French Republic, Germany or Italy ☺️

Usually, yes. But then comes Warsaw... I was sorta expecting to see it on the list sometime in the 17th-18th century, meanwhile it pops up for a brief moment on the break of 19th/20th :D

Istanbul was erased from the list during WWI ~1910 since Turkey lost the war.

It's one of the best places to sustain life in Europe. Perfect climate and perfect soil.

The Vinca coulture from Belo brdo (white hill) is a part of today's Belgrade (white city)

Yougoslavia flooded Lepenski Vir to build a dam. Not much love to be seen here 😞

@@bike-cave-man2527 Russia has nothing to do with the Balkan peninsula, and is newer than most of the countries there. If Kievan Rus is what you meant, its territories never passed Danube river.

Not ukranian, ukraine was created in 1991

- У вас тогда ещё хвосты не отпали, так что хуй соси, губой тряси, козломордый кацапидор!

@@hztn Хохол обзывает кого-то свиньёй, это вершина перефорса))))

at that time there were no countries at all shown on whose modern territory it is located. is it really that hard to understand??