Laser Games - Like a giant colour Vectrex that can blind you

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Playing some laser projector games with LaserOS www.wickedlasers.com/laseros
standupmaths did a much better video about laser games here
• Recreating Asteroids w...
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LASER PROJECTORS ARE NOT TOYS
Even just thinking about them is probably dangerous
All stunts in this video were performed by professional idiots
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Just say no
When the fun stops, stop.
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FAQs
Q) Does the software do (insert function here)?
A) Download it - it’s free - try it yourself. This video was about the games. www.wickedlasers.com/laseros
Q) Have you adjusted the settings, have you tried a filter on your camera, perhaps there’s a problem with the software, the projector is rubbish etc..
A) This video is what it is. It was shot in February and initially binned due to the fact I was unhappy with the way it looked. After making quite a few edits, I’ve released it as an ‘Extra’ - there will be another video along in a few days.
This one has problems - The video quality is rubbish, and the projector is too slow - but that was it - it’s was over and done a couple of months ago.
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@Techmoan 6 лет назад

Links & answers to any FAQs (if there are any) are in the *Video Description Text Box*

@Somethingorother00 6 лет назад

Is the flickering (most visible in asteroids at the start when there's a lot of stuff exploding) a camera thing or is it that visible in person? It made me a bit ill to look at.

@Techmoan 6 лет назад

It's a bit of everything - the projector, the camera and real life. In person it's not always fun to look at.

@hikuro14 6 лет назад

What was the song at 0:28?

@NaviRetlav 6 лет назад

Is this laser any good for displaying the oscilloscope style music videos ?

@ShawnTewes 6 лет назад

Have you tried the built in ND-filter on the Sony RX-10? That should allow you to use a slower shutter speed, thus possibly reducing flicker/halo.

@VectorSM64 6 лет назад

the animation actually looks better all curvy on the projector imo. it unintentionally gives it a neat art style

@ThetaReactor 6 лет назад

It looks like long-exposure light art.

@eachandeverything9932 6 лет назад

It looks cool. It kind of looks like neon.

@ArtemisKitty 6 лет назад

Hey, I've had a lot of experience (and trouble) filming laser shows myself (my business) and found that the easiest solution is to just drop an ND1024 filter over the camera lens and adjust your F-stop/ISO a bit. Awesome video btw! (Now I've REALLY gotta get one of these...) (Honestly since it's short-range and indoors, you could probably get away with an ND256 here... definitely cheaper.)

@watadeeel 6 лет назад

The squiggles are kinda cool, actually.

@PiddeBas 6 лет назад

Agreed

@rich1051414 6 лет назад

It's cute. It's obviously massively underengineered, but there is something quaint about that.

@jusb1066 6 лет назад

yes it does make a change from square lines, a hand drawn quality

@DerMuri 6 лет назад

my thought exactly

@DisplacedGamers 6 лет назад

Despite not appearing as it was designed to be, I thought Attack of the Squigglons was rather charming.

@WaltonPete 6 лет назад

Displaced Gamers There's Squigglons on the starboard bow!

@DisplacedGamers 6 лет назад

... starboard bow! Starboard bow! There's Squigglons on the---. Oh no. It is stuck in my head now.

@Chocolatchips 6 лет назад

It's not that their appearance is unintended. There's just always some degree of distortion depending on how many thousands of dollars the owner has poured into the projector. It's always there, to some degree.

@AlbertBurdge 6 лет назад

I’ve spent the last couple of weeks watching most of your videos, still finding more. I just wanted to say I thoroughly enjoy your work. As someone who searches out retro tech from thrift stores as a hobby, I find techmoan endlessly fascinating. Keep up the great work, love the puppets too!

@alexsabber 6 лет назад

So Techmoan is Lazer Game Review now :)

@joseangelmonterroza9364 6 лет назад

*L* *A* *S* *E* *R* *M* *O* *A* *N* here, internet bussiest láser game nerd.

@fwd0120 6 лет назад

Grreeeetings

@kei_nishimaru 6 лет назад

1:23 And there's a Techmoan in his natural habitat. A truly interesting and phenomenal mammal.

@U014B 6 лет назад

Kei Nishimaru Phenomenammal (🎵doo doo d-doo-doo🎵)

@MagicPlants 6 лет назад

Even with the curved line problem I still find the effect impressive and beautiful. Thanks for demoing everything. You're an awesome reviewer. Long time fan.

@TheDementation 6 лет назад

I love the 80s look of the glasses and the icecubes, looks like artwork come to life.

@rich1051414 6 лет назад

The bendy inaccuracies and ghosted images is actually really quaint and cute. However, it does make me wonder about making a proper one with tight tolerances, bet it would look fantastic.

@kirche5 6 лет назад

The compilation in the credits needs a standalone video. It's just so relaxing.

@vivangreco1710 6 лет назад

Makes me miss my old Vectrex even more. I've always had a soft spot for vector graphics games, and poured way too many quarters into Asteroids, Star Wars, and Tempest machines as a teenager in the eighties. While all my friends were buying Colecovisions and Atari consoles, I scrimped and saved for the Vectrex. I had the 3-d goggles and the light pen and most of the games that were available for the machine. I foolishly gave it away to an old flatmate trying to downsize for a move to the UK. I ended up back in the states eventually, and now have a 16 year old son who loves retro gaming. Looking at what the Vectrex and accessories go for on Ebay, I fear I'll never have another one. Hopefully this technology will mature to the point where I can play a ten foot version of Tempest on my ceiling! Love your videos, and your accent makes me homesick for my adopted second home in Blighty.

@Tubeglowfun 6 лет назад

I like the clipped edges. It's like a visual version of what a tube amp does to a guitar signal when viewed through an oscilloscope.

@larsmuldjord9907 6 лет назад

It actually looks really cool how all of the lines get curved, as if it's animated neon sign lights. It gives it a very unique look.

@gavincurtis 6 лет назад

Oh my God, I wan't to play asteroids on the huge hillside by our house now.

@USWaterRockets 6 лет назад

I'll buy that for a dollar!

@devicemodder 6 лет назад

or on the side of a wal-mart at 2AM

@gavincurtis 6 лет назад

Frogz, A DLP won't light up the side of a damn or hillside though unfortunately.

@Lumibear. 4 года назад

So many blind rabbits...

@CTimmerman 6 лет назад

I'm impressed by the colors and charmed by the curves.

@RawTopShot 6 лет назад

Tempest was my all time favourite as a kid. I only ever found one machine. I remember the large weighted control dial vividly. Bliss 😍😍😍

@RetroPlus 6 лет назад

RAW TOPSHOT Yeah, tempest was great. My favourite has got to be Polybius though due to the fast and addictive gameplay.

@victorhugotoledocofre1366 6 лет назад

Automatically generated subs: "That's it for the Bourbon..." LOL

@agvulpine 6 лет назад

I love the fact that somebody went through and ported so many Vectrex titles just to give added bonus value to their laser product. That is really rare and cool. I've never considered dj laser shows as vector projectors before this video.

@LeshmuttRecords 6 лет назад

i used to love playing these games and actually i think was my first interaction with with gaming way before the first nintendo - great video - keep up the good work :)

@penroc3 6 лет назад

i like the smoother look!!!! you found a gem i think for simple club animations

@sky173 6 лет назад

Actually, it's quite amazing considering when I started working with lasers, HeNe tubes were $300+ for a .5 mw beam. Even galvanometers for professional shows are thousands of dollars so I really couldn't complain about this little gadget at all. Great video. Thanks for sharing.

@IgnoreMyChan 6 лет назад

I would have loved to see this with some smoke in the room 😃😃

@RetroPlus 6 лет назад

IgnoreMyChan Oh wow, that would be crazy. I'm interested too.

@andersdenkend 6 лет назад

Man, if this could emulate the Star Wars Arcade game. Or the Vectrex. That‘d be really, really amazing.

@RCAvhstape 6 лет назад

BattleZone, Gravitar, Major Havoc, lots of great vector scan games back in the day!

@Wallyworld30 6 лет назад

TRON!

@denimadept 6 лет назад

I'd like to see a better version of Tempest. That's the best of the best.

@paspax 6 лет назад

Tail Gunner.

@AalbertTorsius 6 лет назад

I was hoping for Elite.

@ojgsxr6 6 лет назад

You had me at potential eye damage

@jamesslick4790 6 лет назад

I would be interested in this if a better "Tempest" clone was to be had. "Tempest" ,"Battle Zone" and "Missile Command" are STILL my favorite arcade games!

@moonshine3333 6 лет назад

Just love your “Obligatory Patronising Warnings” 😁

@jaxnean2663 6 лет назад

Always love it when there is a new Techmoan video👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@mcramp20 6 лет назад

Still a very nice use for the projector glad to see it in use again!

@manoflego123 6 лет назад

I actually really dig the sort of stylized curves it draws, and I'd love to either have or to make a game that is supposed to look like that!

@pauleckert4321 6 лет назад

My favorite tech channel.

@eachandeverything9932 6 лет назад

I love this channel & 8-bit guy's channel.

@marklaser131081 6 лет назад

Pangolin laser software use to have asteroids built in back in the early 2000s. this takes me back

@kirabarsmith9353 6 лет назад

Looks rad, would like to see this tech taken further. I love Vectrex and Tempest.

@voidofspaceandtime4684 6 лет назад

Yeah, with more lasers at once color vector games would certainly be more of a possibility than the vectrex while using the 3d viewer.

@Masterpj555 6 лет назад

Tempest 2000 can be played for a long time already on pangolins QM2000 and easylase and its called lazymame!

@LouisTheSEGANerd 6 лет назад

Awesome to see some vectrex ports for this: Starhawk, Star Ship and Amour Attack look pretty good (starts at 8:36).

@vanhavirta 6 лет назад

I wouldn't feel too bad about the cutting of corners - I really find the result quite charming to be honest. The output feels really nice and analog - physical, I guess - in comparison to the input. Great review, and a good effort put into capturing the bright laser projection!

@Christopher-N 6 лет назад

I'm not a big fan of vector graphics games, but I appreciate the continued popularity of machines like the Vectrex. That having been said, I think this laser rendition of vector graphics games looks fantastic. Admittedly, there's room for improvement, but this is something I'd definitely love to have once all the bugs are worked out, and if it's available for PCs.

@scottplumer3668 6 лет назад

The King of Random did a DIY video where they used a vibrating laser pointer to produce laser effects to music. The projector doesn't seem all that different in concept. It just controls the vibrations better.

@mrmeatman9948 4 года назад

Reminds of the computer displays in the X-Wings!

@largeowl6024 6 лет назад

what a great show every time this guy is great

@jamescarter3196 3 года назад

At the beginning I noticed "He's wearing a shirt which I've got in the closet." During laser setup: "He's wearing a different shirt which I've also got in the closet." I'm starting to feel some kinship with Techmoan beyond merely our age, appearance, interests and approximate speaking style.

@ClockworkBastard 6 лет назад

Yep! I was worried during the last scene! The laser almost hit you in the glasses. But everything ended normally. Thanks for that video

@roastysprouts8705 2 года назад

There's something quite nice about the underpowered ice in the glass drawings

@RalphBarbagallo 6 лет назад

Wow. Even with the issues this still seems cool. It would be great to be able to play the whole Vectrex library on it.

@jdlives8992 6 лет назад

That’s sick man. Wish I could see it in person.

@MattHayesVinyl 6 лет назад

Interesting product. I'll have to check out the 2016 video but I'd love to see a laser spectrum analyzer.

@JesusisJesus 6 лет назад

I think you'll find that this thing is capable of that, the rest is just software.

@MattHayesVinyl 6 лет назад

Good point, Jesus. I'm sure you are right. Would be great to see that in action.

@JesusisJesus 6 лет назад

Maybe you should download the software because I was just watching it again and I saw a few Speccy type displays flick up on the screen during the bit where he's setting it up. Smack bang on the 2:00 mark.

@Techmoan 6 лет назад

During the section at the end of the video, where I’m talking to camera, look to the right of the screen, you’ll see that the lasers are reacting to the sound of my voice. This is one of the features of the software. In this video I was just playing some games. You can download the software for yourself if you want to look through all the other features.

@MattHayesVinyl 6 лет назад

Ah yes, thank you. I hadn't even noticed it was reacting to your voice! Would be great to see this with music too. I'll have to take a look at the software.

@imtheotherdave 6 лет назад

That's pretty cool. The kids on the pills and electronic music would stare at that for hours.

@Yukatoshi 6 лет назад

imtheotherdave Is this comment from 1993?

@qqq1701 6 лет назад

Interesting that it's kind of the opposite of not having the power for 3d graphics. Instead of becoming angular and blocky things become squiggly and rounded.

@rich1051414 6 лет назад

Lol. Well, it's not that it doesn't have the power, it doesn't have the accuracy. Things look rounded because the motors are not stepped enough, it just guesses(wrongly) the positioning.

@Adlore 6 лет назад

Richard Smith I think they were stepped enough, but lacked the torque to actually reach all the locations in the right time, so instead it literally cut corners

@GigsVT 6 лет назад

these are mems aren't they? I wouldn't think this would be anything like steppers.

@rich1051414 6 лет назад

Yeah maybe, or lacked the speed. If it's high powered lasers, it very well may be torque, moving the heatsinks in all.

@KuraIthys 6 лет назад

Yeah, I think the main issue is a lack of accuracy at speed. If it were moving too slow parts of the image would not get drawn at all, but if it rushes I guess it approximates the fastest path through it. I suppose part of the problem could be that the X and Y deflection happens with separate mirrors, meaning that if one mirror isn't moving it would need to start moving in advance to complete a later part of the movement in time. I imagine the mirrors have a relatively high mass compared to the deflection speed, so it doesn't instantly start or stop. That in itself means the ends of any line drawn involves a degree of acceleration, and taken to an extreme that means sharp edges become curves. (since it's easier to smoothly transition to a new direction than to create a sharp corner, which would require coming to a complete stop, then starting again.) Yes, the fact that the mirrors cannot stop and start instantly would seem to be the most likely reason sharp points have a habit of vanishing when there isn't enough time. A hard corner would require deceleration, stop, accelerate, while a smooth curve is an even acceleration all the way through, and thus takes less time to complete. Weird quirk with unusual visual effects, but interesting to consider the reasons for it.

@somethingsmells5387 6 лет назад

This holds so much potential.

@MrWombatty 6 лет назад

Actually, that animated EQ/audio meter at the end was quite cool!

@EricPenn1147 6 лет назад

This is by far one of the coolest things I've ever bought.... This video doesn't do it justice... RU-vid 'LD1000 Laser'... Thank you Techmoan for closing the decision on buying this. I thought maybe a scam on eBay... Search for LaserOS, it's free and you can simulate what it can do... I played with that for weeks until I pulled the trigger...

@dom1310df 6 лет назад

I saw the Asteroids laser projector demo in person. It was stunning

@Tarbard 6 лет назад

Love the look of these, I think the curves look better than hard angles.

@ZeedijkMike 6 лет назад

Looks very cool - even with rounded shapes. Thumbs up for being a big boy with cool toys (-:

@BigStickyNugs 6 лет назад

remember them tapes you used to buy advertised in magazines? '100 games! Amazing bargain etc' I bought one once and it was full of games basically written in basic. Ah the joys of being old...

@j.lindback 6 лет назад

I think the footage of the laser on the projector screen looks far more interesting than "how it should have looked" (9:13), despite halos and squares turning into circles!

@spartanfoxie 6 лет назад

i love the vectrex i got to play one at the maker faire my dad has never seen one but he was really impressed with the asteroids game and how smooth it is

@MrVolksbeetle 6 лет назад

I remember when I was a kid playing those neon ‘bar top’ (I think?) where the display was on the wall. I want to say it had a light gun, I could be mixing that up with another style of the same type of game. This reminded me of that.

@sideshowbob1544 6 лет назад

I remember playing Galaga in the arcade at the mall for 25 cents a game. Back when that was real money. I loved that game!

@SPAZZOID100 6 лет назад

Sideshow Bob not a vector game.

@korndogz69 6 лет назад

Star Wars and Battlezone were the ultimate vector games.

@dansolo9978 6 лет назад

Ah Your Correct Sir it was Battlezone not Tank Command..!

@58jharris 6 лет назад

I wish there had been more vector games. They just have certain unique appeal to them.

@dansolo9978 6 лет назад

And Play-ability..!

@alanluber5383 6 лет назад

And also the companion to Battlezone at that time "Red Baron", I spent a lot of money on those two in my youth... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HedT3ERkLac.html

@ftrueck 6 лет назад

I actually like the shapes the laser projector creates. It is kind of retro and doesn't disturb too much for me. :-)

@SLMK-rk7ht 6 лет назад

You have to keep in mind this only costs $800. That's extremely cheap for colored laser that does animations. I remember back in early 2000's there use to be a guy bringing in a $30k laser to rave which only did green color and had super basic animation. I know this was while back but still this laser is amazing!

@aminekostone1411 6 лет назад

It might not be ideal - but it's still friggin' awesome!!

@thehelllord4458 3 года назад

Now we need Tron on this masterpiece

@thiesenf 6 лет назад

MAME + any vector based arcade game + that laser projector = AWESOMENESS???

@metaleggman18 6 лет назад

Dang it, I wish you would add a "no puppets this time! 😣" warning to the end of the video as the credits. I always get excited I might see more puppets, but the patreon credits are just getting longer 😂😂😂

@ArguingMeadows 6 лет назад

Love your videos. I'm not sure if you tried this to reduce flicker, but Premiere has a Flicker Filter in the Field Option settings. I'm sure you're shooting progressive but it still should reduce the flicker for next time. Thanks again for making this video!

@FailedSquare 3 года назад

i own one of the newer laser cubes and i gotta say watching you speak while the 2w class 4 laser projector was pointed at your face was pretty nerve racking

@mcwooley 6 лет назад

I've been drawing pretty much nothing but line SVGs since 2013, in anticipation of this technology!

@SolarMoth 6 лет назад

i like how it stylizes it!

@tapemaster8252 6 лет назад

I'm gonna try this, I just bought a Mac mini and connected it to my neck center, looks exciting.

@CPS2 4 года назад

Dies Dies Dies Dies "It's a little bit easy though..." Dies Dies

@ChristopherSobieniak 6 лет назад

Looks like something I'd love to see at a barcade!

@CaptainDangeax 6 лет назад

Reminds me the movie "Tron", specially the breakout clone

@100percentdutchbeef9 6 лет назад

Omg omg omg a tempest and missile command clone!! I so neeeeed this right now!! 🙀

@darbyjordan5187 Год назад

This is ABSOLUTELY AWESOME.

@dansolo9978 6 лет назад

Wow brings back great Memories of Star Wars & Tank Command....

@dansolo9978 6 лет назад

Sorry Battlezone..!

@VanWinger 6 лет назад

The version your projector displays reminds me of the guitar on the money for nothing video.

@DavidDatura 6 лет назад

I absolutely loved those vector graphics games of the 80s like Battlezone, Tempest, Star Wars etc...they were so addictive to play and dazzling to look at! They hold up well visually today too, just like the neon vector like graphics of Tron. Maybe due to the fact that by about the mid-80s they stopped using it for games (with the exception of the home computer Starglider series) so a technology frozen in time that hasn’t dated as much as a result. Unlike raster-scan games that have continued to advance, making those 80s efforts like Centipede, Defender, Outrun etc...look primitive by todays standards, if still eminently playable!

@quite1enough 6 лет назад

looks amazing

@Stoney3K 6 лет назад

If you want a few tips of capturing laser (and CRT) projections on video: Set the shutter time to no shorter than 1/25 and adjust aperture and/or ISO to compensate for brightness. Also, you could try re-tuning your scanner amplifiers if you want the images to be sharper. Reducing the scan angle also helps a lot with image sharpness.

@buddyclem7328 6 лет назад

8:08 I had that game on the Commodore 64! It was all character graphics, but definitely the same game. The Tanks game reminds me of Wii Play Tanks.

@mCKENIC 6 лет назад

For the longest time I have wanted to do laser Lissajou curves of live input music - as a visualizer for shows. Ive not seen anything close to the clarity and response of an old oscilloscope but this is getting there... one day perhaps! Oh and if they can get Battlezone and Star Wars arcade running its an insta-buy from me :-) Thanks for the amazing video!

@CP200S 6 лет назад

11:05: Stupid cats... I'm gonna grab this cute lil' triangle here. Oops. 11:10: Yikes, what is that thing falling from there? 11:11: Hum... me likes this.

@scharkalvin 6 лет назад

Reminds me of one of the original vector graphics games, namely Lunar Lander, which ran on a DEC graphics terminal back in the 60's.

@sjm4306 6 лет назад

A mems based laser projector would fare much better with less mass for the actuated mirror which would allow for a faster refresh through higher acceleration. Alternatively depending on the control resolution you could simply limit the actuation range and back the projector away more to gain refresh speed. Of course all this would require modification of the control software and/or driving firmware.

@mantovannni 6 лет назад

"Eek help Spike", "Oh no, Molly"

@fen7662 6 лет назад

That's incredibly cool. I wonder if that makes this technically the world's first commercial true vector graphics display game console? I'll have to find out.

@electronash 6 лет назад

This is weird. I was just talking about the Vectrex on a live stream when this vid was released. (I also built an RGB laser projector a few years ago, so this is definitely of great interest.) ;)

@dr666demento 6 лет назад

Actually it does share the flicker problem with CRT vector, and for the same reason, it's drawing a lot of lines one at a time. If you come across the Atari Star Wars arcade game, before playing it, watch it's ''attract mode''. It will have the ''scrolling into the distance'' text, but the more text there is the worse the flicker gets.

@skakdosmer 6 лет назад

If you like old and simple, but really exciting games, I might suggest draughts or checkers.

@marcocinquini1985 6 лет назад

Days ago, I was wondering about vector monitors, because of Vectrex itself, and also Arcades that used them, if they are still produced, since even oscilloscopes went LCD. These demos may trigger some nostalgia, but, as show, it doesn't last long due the laser speed. It would be nice with 4K screens, to have this kind of games with quite sharp lines.

@Mmmm_tea 6 лет назад

the animations look nice with the curved effect

@QunMang 6 лет назад

There was a very old MAME distro called LaserMAME that allowed you to play the vector arcade games using a laser projector.

@Xqrement 6 лет назад

This would be a massive success at a party while having some good 80s electronic music as a background and stuff. Too bad I don't have this projector nor friends to do so.

@JesusisJesus 6 лет назад

It would be cool if you could play cartoons on it, like if there was some kind of MPEG4 to Vector converter. I know the results wouldn't be technically "perfect" but it would produce some interesting artefacts that could then be prone to some hackery. The ultimate final product would be a 3D hologram in High Def using real video footage, combine that with some of the 3D TV know-how that is currently 0-10 years old now, and this technology could really get interesting. I'm a fan though, I love it. And the Epileptic Seizure was totally worth it.

@SteelSkin667 6 лет назад

They should release an SDK for LaserOS. I am sure that a lot of people would love to make more games for it.

@SteelSkin667 6 лет назад

Oh thank you, I didn't see this in your website :) I'll check it out !

@NoJusticeNoPeace 6 лет назад

The space shooter game with what you called the "Klingon ships" is a clone of an Odyssey2 game, the name of which I no longer remember.

@NoJusticeNoPeace 6 лет назад

Yes, I think that's the one I was thinking of. I just did a search and it was called Cosmic Conflict on the Odyssey2. And yes, I remember enjoying the Lord of the Rings RPG (which was half boardgame if I remember correctly; you moved on the board and resolved fights in the game).

@RCAvhstape 6 лет назад

Lots of games used that same patter. Activision's Star Master, Atari's Star Raiders, just for starters.