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Laserdisc: Features, Follies, & Evolution 

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While Laserdisc certainly wasn’t the most successful format, it was among the most interesting. This video explores the evolution and features of the format, with a wide variety of sample clips.
Here's a link to the entire playlist on Laserdisc:
• The Story of Laserdisc
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@LGR
@LGR 6 лет назад
This LD series has been the best explanation I've seen of the format's successes and shortcomings. Excellent work!
@ps3master72
@ps3master72 6 лет назад
Nice to see you here LGR!
@pirataga
@pirataga 5 лет назад
LGR and Alec from Technology Connections! Two of my three RU-vid idols! Awesome!
@EdgarsLS
@EdgarsLS 5 лет назад
has every popular youtuber commented on technology connections video?
@anthowinebradford2978
@anthowinebradford2978 5 лет назад
Do you remember the format DivX that came out a little bit after the DVD it was a form where you would go and buy a DivX movie for like $3 and you get it home and you hook the play it and if you wanted to watch it again you have your DivX system hooked up to I guess your phone line and you will pay a fee and they would activate the disc to play it again or permanently I would like you to do a video on that subject
@CaveyMoth
@CaveyMoth 5 лет назад
But he dissed wood grain!
@MattMcIrvin
@MattMcIrvin 5 лет назад
At some point in the early 1980s, I remember Sears experimenting with interactive electronic catalogs on laserdisc. They had one at their store at Fair Oaks Mall in northern Virginia; I remember playing with it. It was in a back area of the store, the desk where you could make and pick up catalog orders for items not available on the floor. They had some sort of console built around a videodisc player, and you could page through the whole catalog on a TV screen and I think even queue up orders somehow. At that point, there wasn't a huge advantage over using a paper catalog. But I think about that sometimes when I ponder how completely Sears missed the train on online sales. They *were* the Amazon of the 20th century, really, and they could have conquered the Web if they were on the ball--they even had people who were thinking about that kind of thing all the way back in the 80s, but somehow they didn't.
@michelle_pgh
@michelle_pgh 6 лет назад
The commentary isn't mastered poorly. You're hearing the effects of laser rot, which usually takes out the audio tracks first. Most of the stuff on those Disney box sets did end up getting ported to their dvd counterparts. Criterion laserdiscs on the other hand, are a treasure trove of content that didn't see the light of day elsewhere as in a lot of cases they weren't able to later license the films for dvd or blu-ray.
@isaaclee3793
@isaaclee3793 6 лет назад
Michelle D as soon i heard the little bit of commentary i immediately thought laser rot too
@Leroset
@Leroset 6 лет назад
Michelle D How can one combat or prevent laser rot?
@michelle_pgh
@michelle_pgh 6 лет назад
Short of keeping your discs in a vacuum, nothing. It's a problem inherent in the manufacturing process of certain discs itself. Plus it's been so long since the discs were manufactured that any that would rot likely already are.
@Takeshi357
@Takeshi357 6 лет назад
I kind of think that's unlikely. Laser rot tends to eats the digital track first, and I'm pretty sure he'd noticed that.
@Knightmessenger
@Knightmessenger 6 лет назад
I heard the Lion King CAV box set still has exclusive extras. ET has more deleted scenes in a collector's set. The 1993 THX transfer of the star wars trilogy did get ported to dvd as the original theatrical versions. But the Definitive Collection extras are still exclusive to that set, even the audio commentaries.
@souhaibz
@souhaibz 2 года назад
This is simply hilarious... a time travel to explore the technology ... great work
@maikerugo
@maikerugo 2 года назад
4:45 I remember seeing some of these in heavy rotation at several different electronics stores since it was a fantastic way of demonstrating their systems. 5:42 I remember that one of the uses for the frame indexing was that you could do a "Choose Your Own Adventure" kind of game. So you'd have something like a mystery and at the end of each clip it would let go to one frame index or another. What you'd end up doing was that you could pick to "Run a Spectrograph Test on The Sample" by going to one frame and it would start the video for or you could just go on to other options. So students would end up writing down what a test results and use what they learned in the morning's lesson to interpret what the result meant then vote on if they wanted to run another test or come to a particular conclusion. I think that in some cases the disc had some way of keeping track of resources by ending the short video clips by stopping you on a unique card with the amount of money/time that you spent with the last action and subsequent actions would stop you on a different (but similar looking) card with more money/time spent. It actually kind of made the premise of tracking down an industrial polluter of the ocean by interpreting lab tests kind of fun. One of the interesting niches that the format was good at was karaoke. The fact that you could go straight to a particular frame made it fairly quick to get to the song that you wanted. I think that most professional places that had "laser karaoke" in private rooms likely had them in changers.
@brantisonfire
@brantisonfire 6 лет назад
"We're almost done with the saga of Laserdisc." NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! This must go on for an infinite number of episodes.
@DDBurnett1
@DDBurnett1 6 лет назад
Don''t worry, I'm sure he's going to move on to CED soon.
@SephirothRyu
@SephirothRyu 3 года назад
If only all the episodes were put onto laserdisc.
@azdgariarada
@azdgariarada 6 лет назад
Good lord. I have no idea how I stumbled onto this channel, but somehow I ended up watching an hour on laserdisc history. Something about your presentation style is just mesmerizing!
@ClokworkGremlin
@ClokworkGremlin 5 лет назад
This series really brings back memories, and reminds me that my dad was a low-key audiophile back in the 80s. We had a laserdisc player and a 32-inch CRT TV since the earliest memories I have (I may actually have a memory of when the TV arrived, I remember my dad and uncle shuffling it across the floor), and we got a dual-side laserdisc player when I was about 8. I always enjoyed going to the laserdisc store, partly because it was just such a cool place, partly because it almost always meant a new movie to watch when we got home. My parents actually had 2 or 3 copies of the original Star Wars trilogy on Laserdisc. 4:3 and letterboxed. They have a copy of Mary Poppins on Laserdisc which includes a gallery mode of production images similar to the Pocohontas one shown in this video, and it BLEW MY MIND trying to figure out how it worked.
@ShawnTewes
@ShawnTewes 6 лет назад
Great episode. Say, have you ever heard of LaserDisc recorders? Yes, they existed in the pro video realm back in the early 90s, mainly used to capture a sequence of computer rendered 3D images for animation frame by frame. Todd Rundgren used one to capture images from NewTek Lightwave running on Commodore Amigas with Video Toasters for one of his music videos. I believe it was a Sony LVR6000. The discs held 24 minutes per side, which was pretty good for the time. It would be fantastic if you were to touch on this subject briefly in a future video.
@marktubeie07
@marktubeie07 6 лет назад
This is the BEST series on Laserdisc. Your channel is amazing and I for one appreciate the time you put into it. Your production values are superb. Off to Patreon I go good sir! Thank you :)
@allaion2897
@allaion2897 4 года назад
There are tons of lost anime that only ever got a Laserdisk release, many of which will probably never be recovered simply because of the degradation of the medium over time 😣
@TyTheRegularMan
@TyTheRegularMan 5 лет назад
Of course he's a TMBG fan. How could this guy get any more awesome?
@greatquux
@greatquux 2 года назад
You must be talking about some other band. 😉
@LoudnessWar
@LoudnessWar 6 лет назад
Great Job! Very informative, well-researched, and well-structured. There's a somewhat distracting resonance/ring on the narration, probably coming from the acoustics of your green screen studio, around 435ish Hz. In the short term you might consider a very narrow EQ cut there, and if it's realistic cost-wise in the long term, some acoustic treatment in your studio would help even more. Thank you very much for making these videos - I'm really enjoying them.
@camille4574
@camille4574 4 года назад
I can't get over how amazing his explanations are. When I saw the string wrapped around the disk I instantly understood what he was talking about and the rest of the concept was easily grasped. I have an informations systems degree but have always struggled a little with the hardware side, I love watching him explain how things work.
@RandomEskimo42
@RandomEskimo42 5 лет назад
I don't know why but it tickles me so much that you are a fellow TMBG fan.
@mcnultyssobercompanion6372
@mcnultyssobercompanion6372 6 лет назад
Just discovered this channel, and specifically this series on Laser Disc. Really great work. I'm enjoying it a lot. And learning a lot. I still recall my blood boiling with envy seeing all the rich people in line ahead of me at Suncoast Video, with their arms full of Laser Discs (always inept films like "Beethoven"- the dog movie- or "Sister Act 2" or something...), while I had to suffer with my sad stack of pan-and-scan (ie, butchered) versions of "The Deer Hunter" and "Pulp Fiction" on VHS, lol...Bastards. It would be a few years before the deliverance that was dvd. So Laser Disc has always remained this mysterious, esoteric thing to me...Well done, sir.
@MrRom92DAW
@MrRom92DAW 6 лет назад
Just a correction re: your discovision disc with supposed laser rot - that’s not rot! What happened was when a video would only take up an odd amount of sides, Discovision took care of the need for an extra side by using a reject/defective side that was already pressed up. They then coated the disc surface with something to make it totally unreadable. These are referred to as “dead sides” and this practice predates the use of a dedicated video they would often use for these odd sides, like the flippy-turtle that came a few years later. If you can clean off the coating, you can often uncover some realllly weird stuff. Sometimes early promotional/instructional videos. Sides from a canceled title. Etc. but usually just a bum side from another boring discovision title. Could be interesting, could be a waste of time. But there is a database where people have listed what they did find on “dead sides” of particular discovision titles. Of course that Star Trek disc is post-discovision, but perhaps it’s early enough that this procedure hadn’t fallen out of favor yet
@TechnologyConnections
@TechnologyConnections 6 лет назад
It's hard to tell from the video, but that mottled pattern _is not_ on the outside surface. It's is definitely on the aluminum layer itself. Perhaps it is a dead side, but there is no way to remove that coating (if that is what it is).
@MrRom92DAW
@MrRom92DAW 6 лет назад
Technology Connections hmmm definitely a bit of a mystery here. I haven’t been collecting for very long but I will say I’ve never seen an instance of rot take on an appearance like that, whereas in this case it looks *exactly* like the coating put on the extra side of discovision discs. I also wouldn’t think 2 sides would rot to such different degrees considering they’re bonded at the same time! Maybe at some point they switched to coating the inside of the disc rather than the outside? Just a thought :)
@bachno4
@bachno4 6 лет назад
That is definitely a dead side and not Laser Rot. It was a common practice in the earlier days of LD. Mine looks exactly the same.
@happycube
@happycube 6 лет назад
For a while Discovision didn't use any dead side (people figured out about cleaning the disks and their industrial clients didn't like that), so the result is the glue spray on the top. It doesn't help that IBM loosened quality control about the same time to get more product out...
@MrRom92DAW
@MrRom92DAW 6 лет назад
Chad Page heh, weird. So on very early examples of early titles there should actually be no coating?
@Scionic
@Scionic 6 лет назад
It's fascinating watching this method of double-sided laser pickup. I have a CLD-D606, which has this insane roller coaster assembly, where the laser pickup travels to the back of the unit, and the motor on the back of the pickup winds it through a C-shaped track on the back, at which point it hangs from a track on the top of the unit. That's a bad description but the overengineering in these players are insanity! I also had that LaserDisc on computer animation as a kid, it's in my basement now. I have that thing virtually memorized by now.
@steadycamuk1
@steadycamuk1 6 лет назад
Excellent Excellent video . Thanks for producing - I appreciate the editing and pre production effort you put in. I am unfortunately old enough to have gone through these formats AT THE TIME lol and I was pretty geeky so there's not a lot i don't know - but every video from Edison through Trinitron Laervision and LD you pull out new nuggets of info. BRILL . I need you to stop working and make more of these RU-vid videos - so thats why im going to support you on Patreon because this stuff is important. ( and to anyone who thinks that's a geeky throw away - let me just say - like VHS , Airships, Flying Boats Phonographs... These were tiny tiny blips on the timeline of the history of the world and yet the vision and the engineering that went into these projects was immense and epoch changing. Its important that these cul de sacs of technology are documented for humanity .Massive thumbs up to you.
@MauFerrusca
@MauFerrusca 6 лет назад
I love your videos. I had a laserdisc way back and I never really (although suspected) what went on inside it. Also your sassy, funny, witty, clear and logical delivery style is amazing. Keep it up, please.
@kritsadventures
@kritsadventures 10 месяцев назад
Five years later and DVDs are still kicking.
@dstinnettmusic
@dstinnettmusic 6 лет назад
Love your stuff dude. You seem so approachable, and remind me of a childhood friend and the things that used to interest me as a kid. I honestly just wish you could upload more.
@Natalie-ez1zc
@Natalie-ez1zc 6 лет назад
quality > quantity
@dstinnettmusic
@dstinnettmusic 6 лет назад
nodrinks why not both?
6 лет назад
Very good video, your quality is really improving.
@stukevideo
@stukevideo 2 года назад
I'm amazed at the claptrap you offer to explain the demise of the Laserdisc while ignoring the simplest, most compelling reason . . . . . DVD!
@MatroxMillennium
@MatroxMillennium 6 лет назад
It's interesting, I really already know most of this stuff, but there's something about the way you present it that captivates me and gets me to watch anyway.
@vegitax
@vegitax 4 года назад
I think that karaoke is one reason as well why Laser Disks survived for so long. Every karaoke entrepreneur (Yes, there was a whole industry of people who had the players, disks and other stuff needed and got paid to go to bars and play karaoke for people there) had a Laser Disk player (or two or more) and dozens of music records.
@battleangel5595
@battleangel5595 2 года назад
Discovision... a format of Laserdisc I never knew existed until Anders Enger Jensen created a tune about it. Kind of funny story behind my LaserDisc love... began with anime. I loved how crisp the video was, loved the sweet sounding audio. I entered into the world of LD at it's deathbed. Eventually finding a player on sale though a single sided one... Bought some anime, and marveled at the quality. Funny thing is my father bringing home a LD movie from Blockbuster thinking he could play it on his LP player. In comes in my Panasonic LD player. After a quick intervention I had my LaserDisc player connected to his TV and audio system.The overall video and audio quality blew his mind. It wasn't until DVD did I get my LaserDisc player back and Blockbuster going bust. But still, bringing in such a technology into the home... priceless. Also bringing Sirius XM into the home... (XM Radio at the time...) Fun times. I now share my father's love for Frank Sinatra. My old man saw Old Blue Eyes over in Vegas live. Something I would have loved to see.
@BrokebackBob
@BrokebackBob 6 лет назад
Absolutely superb video, easily training quality, affable host and just all around great info!
@justanotheryoutubechannel
@justanotheryoutubechannel 5 лет назад
Honestly those rotted LaserDiscs still look better than most of my VHSs.
@jackfrost1031
@jackfrost1031 6 лет назад
I remember in school our laser disc player had a barcode scanner. I thought that was the neatest thing in 1998.
@IDoNotLikeHandlesOnYT
@IDoNotLikeHandlesOnYT 5 лет назад
What was the barcode scanner for?
@hellelujahh
@hellelujahh 4 года назад
What did the scanner do? I NEED TO KNOW
@drewgehringer7813
@drewgehringer7813 4 года назад
@@hellelujahh some industrial laserdiscs came with a little sheet with barcodes, scanning a barcode automatically jumps you to a point on the disk, like the chapter search feature but the teacher or whomever doesn't need to fiddle with the chunky remote, just scan a barcode off a little list
@CantankerousDave
@CantankerousDave 6 лет назад
Heh, I have that CGI laserdisc on my shelf right now. Imagine how long it took to render each frame on something with the computing horsepower of a Dorito, especially those ray traced scenes. Everyone who does 3D rendering should watch those old documentaries -- there were several on TV, but this is the only LD version I remember -- to appreciate how easy they have it these days. Fun fact: to actually get that imagery *out* of the computer in those early days, you had to lay it out frame by frame to tape. A frame would finish rendering, and a machine-controlled Beta SP deck would wake up, cue up to the right frame on the tape, come out of pause to record the frame, and then go back to waiting. When the next frame was done rendering, the process would repeat. You basically "stamped" it out a frame at a time. The process was murder on tape decks, so there was much rejoicing when things like the Personal Animation Recorder came along on the Amiga that finally made it possible to store frames locally and output a stable video signal.
@123rkss
@123rkss 5 лет назад
i am truly amazed how the patterns on the pockets of your shirts align perfectly with the pattern on the shirt
@HaydenX
@HaydenX 6 лет назад
I wish there would have been more than a passing reference to LD-i, or any mention at all of Pioneer's LaserActive line of players that could play these discs. Other than letting the home gaming side of Laserdisc fall by the wayside, this was an interesting and informative video.
@graugaarddk
@graugaarddk 6 лет назад
Love your Laserdisc series. I myself have been collecting since 1993, and in 2017 started to collect old pressings too. The “rotted” side of Star Trek that your showed on the disc, is not rot though. The movie is only on side 1, 2 and 3. Side four (the side where the label says side 3 on, since you put the label upwards and the discside being played are on the bottom) the side that is side 4 , is usually an excess pressing of another movie that was used as a “null” side, sometimes they even used a white plastic “side” as the “null” side. Laserrot is (as you could see on side 1) not really visible to the naked eye, but will appear when a disc is played, like you showed it. Later the pressing plants used the “this side is empty, turn disc for programme” text on the screen and usually the flipped over turtle. But keep up what you are doing, love the videos and can’t wait for more. :D
@kirbyyasha
@kirbyyasha 6 лет назад
I love my Pioneer LaserDisc player. It plays LaserDisc, LaserActive games, Sega Genesis and Sega CD games all in one :D
@Kit_Bear
@Kit_Bear 4 года назад
It might be a good idea to change all the capacitors some time soon. Good luck with that (smiles)
@MultiPedroAndrade
@MultiPedroAndrade 4 года назад
i love laserdisc since 1994 ! still have 5 players and 300 titles :)
@surferdude4487
@surferdude4487 3 года назад
Two things: First, I remember the Pioneer lazerdisk karaoke machines from the early '90's. They were the best machines around. Second, I had a 2005 Honda Civic. The factory CD player in it ate my home-made CDs. I replaced it with a Pioneer player that was able to play home-made MP3 disks as well as factory and home-made CDs. When I returned the vehicle at the end of the lease, Honda wanted the factory unit back. As far as I was concerned, they were welcome to it.
@DisgruntledPigumon
@DisgruntledPigumon 6 лет назад
In regards to the CG disc, I kind of wonder if you’re feignin ignorance. Pretty obviously that was the height of CG at the time, and that video was simply a showcase. I was insanely excited when it came out and bought my LD copy right away. It was mind blowing, and IT LOOKED SO GOOD on my 27” TV. That’s right, I wasn’t a 19” chump, I was a videophile with my 27”. Suck it retroers, I LIVED IT. :D
@joestrike8537
@joestrike8537 2 года назад
When I helped launch the Sci-Fi Channel in 1992 I bought our main announcer's laserdisc player. (He was buying a deluxe model that would play both sides of a disc without having to flip it over.) The main reason I bought it (apart from its visibly better picture on an analog set than a VHS tape ) was IT WAS THE ONLY VIDEO FORMAT THAT RELEASED MOVIES IN THEIR ORIGINAL WIDESCREEN "LETTERBOX" ASPECT RATIO, whereas VHS movies were "formatted to fit your screen," i.e., "panned 'n scanned" to only show the most important portion of the widescreen image at any particular moment in the movie.
@joestrike8537
@joestrike8537 2 года назад
PS - It still works fine today...except now laserdisc image quality sux compared to a blu-ray disc.on a flatscreen LED TV set.
@mbmadden77
@mbmadden77 6 лет назад
Your little notification nudge worked on me exactly as intended; I had allowed part 3 to fall thru the cracks, unwatched, and it was just the reminder I needed.
@murderwasthebass1
@murderwasthebass1 5 лет назад
I love your videos. You speak clearly and are very in-depth and thorough. Great information!
@BrianTylerComposer
@BrianTylerComposer 4 года назад
Dying laughing at 21:56
@ourphilosophyis9119
@ourphilosophyis9119 3 года назад
“That plus your own unfamiliaRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR”
@xiaolin867
@xiaolin867 3 года назад
Made me crack up too
@Menleah
@Menleah 6 лет назад
Late to the party but great doc/retrospective! I can't even begin to imagine how much work you put in to this series.
@shawnmyer2747
@shawnmyer2747 6 лет назад
excellent video! I appreciated the attention to small details and insight into a format that I've never experienced firsthand.
@darkohm3850
@darkohm3850 6 лет назад
Hey, it's great to hear that you are able to spend more time on the RU-vid videos now! Hopefully soon you can go RU-vid exclusive and we can get more fantastic video essays from you. Keep up the good work, you have a wonderful channel.
@MountVesuvius
@MountVesuvius 6 лет назад
Ahh man, hearing that disc spin up brings back memories of my LD viewing days. Love it!
@jdbb3gotskills
@jdbb3gotskills 4 года назад
One of my favorite tech channels thank you for what you do.
@neilforbes416
@neilforbes416 6 лет назад
DVD had/has ONE major bugbear: REGIONAL ENCODING. This stops titles from being made available in several markets at once.
@Rainer67059
@Rainer67059 6 лет назад
Regional encoding of DVDs isn't a must, it's optional for those who produce them. There are DVDs with no regional encoding. Many porn DVDs say this clearly on their label that they have no regional encoding. If you record a TV show with your DVD recorder or produce your own video with your own camera, and transfer it on DVD, it'll play just fine everywhere in the world. The problem lies not with the technology but with the copyright owners, the artists' industry that publishes stuff on video formats. Although it's got nothing to do with their profit, they want to publish stuff in one country and hold it back in another at the same time. Publishers in the USA feel a strong need to give their customers in the USA a privilege over customers abroad, to make their costumers in Europe customers second class behind the customers in the USA. In the process they make their customers in Australia customers 4th class behind those in East Asia. The singtress Anastacia once produced a film and felt the need to publish this film in America and make it unavailabele anywhere else in the world, forever. To remove this bug isn't a question of technology, but it would require to reeducate artists and their producers.
@neilforbes416
@neilforbes416 6 лет назад
Rainer67059: Your second paragraph brings up the point I was trying to make. I'm fully aware of discs with no region-encoding, And should that I were to copy a disc(to make a back-up), the region-encoding would not transfer to the copy. If I'm transferring what I've shot and uploaded to RU-vid, onto DVD, there'd be no region-encoding as the software being used does not provide such a feature. However, the movie studios(other than those making pornography) wanted the feature to restrict the marketing of their product to selected countries. With videotape this restriction was imposed by the colour system being used, PAL through Britain, Irish Republic, most of Europe(except for those countries stupid enough to choose the utterly abominable SECAM system), parts of Asia, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand, NTSC in the USA, Canada, Mexico and a modified NTSC in Japan and other parts of Asia. In many VHS or Beta VCRs, where a choice of colour system had been provided, it was only ever PAL or NTSC. SECAM was, thankfully, NEVER included.
@Nitro_0999
@Nitro_0999 6 лет назад
Most players can bypass region locking just by putting in a code anyway
@MrCordycep
@MrCordycep 6 лет назад
Wow. The content is really interesting, and then there are the comments!! There are some really knowledgeable people out there.
@ZGryphon
@ZGryphon 4 года назад
Long ago, my roommate had a late Pioneer LD player where the tray for the laserdisc was also a five-CD changer carousel. I might be misremembering this part, but I'm pretty sure you could even leave the CDs loaded when you played an LD (but not play the CDs while the LD was in there). I miss that machine, and LDs in general. As an aside, one niche market LDs did hold in the US was collectors of Japanese animation, because LD was so much bigger in Japan and because no heartless beancounter had invented region locking yet. Pioneer even recognized this and released a number of anime titles on LD in English translation for the US market, tiny though it was.
@KRAFTWERK2K6
@KRAFTWERK2K6 6 лет назад
The Disney Archive Box Laserdisc Release of Tron is another great example of why this format was amazing once embraced & properly used by Studios. It's one of the finest releases on Laserdisc. And one of the reasons why i even started collecting them. All of the Bonusmaterial was later re-used for the Special Edition DVD in 2002.
@fenixwisp2792
@fenixwisp2792 6 лет назад
This has been so fascinating thank you so much.
@TheKamoteus
@TheKamoteus 6 лет назад
I'm so happy I discovered this channel!
@denelson83
@denelson83 6 лет назад
A prominent user of LaserDiscs in the late 80's and early 90's was the United Video Satellite Group of Tulsa, OK. The video previews for movies and TV shows for its "Prevue Guide" electronic program guide TV barker channel were played out from LaserDiscs.
@KRAFTWERK2K6
@KRAFTWERK2K6 6 лет назад
The reason PAL LDs didn't have Analog AND PCM audio was Bandwidth reasons. You see the picture resolution in PAL is much higher than NTSC so there was no room to squeeze in extra Audio channels into the Stream. But that didn't matter anyway because PAL LDs never really used Audio commentaries, DTS (with a few exceptions I think) or AC3 anyway. It just wasn't as big in PAL countries like it was in Japan and the USA and was really just a neglected niche.
@enzoaveroldi
@enzoaveroldi 6 лет назад
Amazing in-depth LD analysis! You're the best, mate! 👏😎💿
@reggiebenes2916
@reggiebenes2916 6 лет назад
Your videos are excellent. Really informative, yours is the only channel I get notifications for. It does seem crazy that Pioneer couldn't find a more economic way to use 2 lasers instead of that crazy system, but the engineering in that is astounding. Also if it had two lasers and one went bad your system would still function. Makes me want to start looking for one.
@cessnaace
@cessnaace 2 года назад
If you have a large number of DiscoVision titles, you will eventually encounter every kind of disc defect and video mastering problem known to the format. In my experience, Laser Lock most commonly occurs at the end of a side. DiscoVsion releases that used an odd number of sides often had a defective disc as the dead side, with a coating to prevent playback of that side. That coating can be removed. On one such dead side is part of Psycho, in CAV. It looks pristine, until near the end when the laser locks (at the same frame every time).
@brycevo
@brycevo 5 лет назад
Wow. All these laserdiscs I had no idea existed
@nekomasteryoutube3232
@nekomasteryoutube3232 6 лет назад
I really like videos on technology old and new, breaking down the history and the workings of it. I dunno why I didn't subscribe before. I hope to see more stuff in the future. I find that even though several channels out there might have done the same formats and technologies as others, everyone has their own way of explaining things as well as sometimes some people find something or talk about something that others did not find or go over.
@ringtailedfox
@ringtailedfox 5 лет назад
If i remember it correctly, the reason PAL LaserDiscs didn't have two audio tracks is because the video signal is "larger" (576i compared to NTSC's 480i), and took up slightly more space on the disc. The slightly higher visual fidelity usually required wider video channels in terms of MHz (especially chroma and luma signals), and this had to be sacrificed on the LaserDisc as a trade-off between worse-looking pictures or better-sounding audio. There just wasn't enough bandwidth for a PAL signal + *two* audio tracks... but this is alright, since most LD players in PAL territories released after the advent of Digital Audio were dual-standard and could play NTSC LaserDiscs just fine, for those that wanted a slightly smaller picture but digital audio (and had a Dolby Digital AC-3 demodulator hooked up to the player to process the signal).
@MrShadow12622
@MrShadow12622 6 лет назад
I love your videos! I'd like to suggest using a light on the ground to help brighten the shadow under your chin.
@martinclunes6113
@martinclunes6113 6 лет назад
Kind of rude, no?
@Pico_Farad
@Pico_Farad 6 лет назад
I don't see how this is rude
@MikeMalkowski
@MikeMalkowski 6 лет назад
Ha! I hadn't even noticed til I read this comment. Yeah, the lighting from the left and the right makes a pretty noticeable shadow down the middle. Like he's shave a goatee from his Adam's apple to his chin. Still a good video, but I don't think I can unsee it.
@domdecosa
@domdecosa 6 лет назад
i think that actually is his facial hair.
@ironcito1101
@ironcito1101 6 лет назад
And also not including long, on-screen text while talking. A word or two is OK, but not a paragraph while speaking something else, like at 0:55. I realize that these may be things that come up during editing and it's easier to add text than to re-do part of the video, but still. Then again, it may just be me who can't read and listen at the same time :P
@jwb52z9
@jwb52z9 5 лет назад
When I was in High School in the late 90s, my middle of nowhere podunk school taught Chemistry by laserdisc because the teacher was a coach and didn't really want to teach, but had to, to keep his job, so the entire class was done by laserdisc.
@KarlandKristy
@KarlandKristy 6 лет назад
I’m that dedicated. I’ve got the pioneer amplifiers and the pioneer laser desk and I’ve been doing that for years. I’m old-school but it works. Not that I don’t burn Netflix up now but I still enjoy my old format
@licentioushowler3400
@licentioushowler3400 6 лет назад
19:58 NOT LINCOLN! That album deserves better!
@justanotheryoutubechannel
@justanotheryoutubechannel 5 лет назад
Gotta say, I feel like a big reason for the extreme size is due to the discs being fucking massive.
@SquishySenpai
@SquishySenpai 5 лет назад
Dream Machine was one of my favorite discs! I loved the various little animations in it.
@s3vR3x
@s3vR3x 6 лет назад
Fantastically researched and presented! Keep up the good work! Happy to be a patron
@ryno4859
@ryno4859 5 лет назад
Found my new favourite channel!
@GeekFilter
@GeekFilter 6 лет назад
Me and my fellow CG artists loved every minute of those Dream Machine discs! It was the equivalent of Deviant art or Art Station mushed together with Vimeo or RU-vid!
@Qardo
@Qardo 6 лет назад
This is very educational. As this is the kind of history that gets swept under the rug. As it is technology that kind of failed and all failed technological is always forgotten.
@PrankZabba
@PrankZabba 6 лет назад
1:54 - that's why there is a warning on the Devo dvd of The Complete Truth About Devolution. there are extras that fly through all sorts of cool collector stuff - looks just like this at 3:39
@almostfm
@almostfm 2 года назад
I love 80s electronics. They all sound like there's serious ironmongery involved in the construction and use.
@howardjohnson2138
@howardjohnson2138 6 лет назад
I really appreciate what you did. Thanks
@red-rax
@red-rax 3 года назад
I love those old computer animation Laserdiscs. That’s the reason I bought a laserdisc player in the first place to play CG Hyper Architecture (if you thought Dream Machine was vaporwave, wait till you see THAT!). I don’t have Dream Machine just yet, but I have another similar one called Computer Magic
@One-Armed-Un-Boxer
@One-Armed-Un-Boxer 6 лет назад
On a CAV LD each frame takes up one disc revolution, so the disc has to spin faster as it travels in an outwardly direction. This is because space each frame is progressively longer on the disc. On a CLV LD each frame is the same length, so more frames fit on each revolution.
@musicman8270
@musicman8270 6 лет назад
I had one of those discs with computer video, was quite amazing at the time
@kaydwessie296
@kaydwessie296 5 лет назад
We used to have so many tapes that are like that Vaporwave disc. I watched them as a kid when I had enough Winnie the Pooh. Definitely contributed to me turning out Like This.
@russcarlson7551
@russcarlson7551 5 лет назад
Interesting info. Great delivery! I love the side comments. I still have that SONY Trinitron in my basement in front of the treadmill (with a ROKU attached, of course)
@paulwharton1850
@paulwharton1850 6 лет назад
Fantastic ! I learnt a lot. God you're good.
@patemathic
@patemathic 6 лет назад
You really deserve a bigger fanbase
@tosvus
@tosvus 2 года назад
"this is by far the biggest piece of av equipment I have come across". I guess this is somehow ruling out tv's as those are even today larger for obvious reasons, so this comment is a bit on the side, but coming to America, the first major purchase I did (before even getting a car) around 2000, was a Pioneer Elite 58" Rear Projection 1080i tv. Living in an apartment at the time, I had to take the packaging off to squeeze it into the elevator with barely an inch on either side, and only a few inches to spare depth wise. The picture at the time was just mind blowing though. Most of my content was unfortunately from DVD, luckily, expensive progressive upscaling players did a good job, but my favorite was watching the rare true 1080i movies or Jay Leno in all it's glory through OTA. Good times.
@benm8503
@benm8503 6 лет назад
Thank you for making such fascinating videos
@McSynth
@McSynth 4 года назад
Vaporware reminds me a first enounter with the Beatles Red (or was it Blue) album, when Geoff Emerick hadn't decided what to do with the pan knob.
@kainpwnsu
@kainpwnsu 3 года назад
I just checked a popular, local classified ads listing for Laser Disc players. These dinosaurs are selling for $300. I'd love to watch my LDs again...
@DiabloXL69
@DiabloXL69 4 года назад
3:46 this remote is really nostalgic
@WadeMcLure
@WadeMcLure 4 года назад
OMG! I love Fargo! Also my "The Toy" laserdisc wouldn't play despite not having scratches, now I know why... Thanks!
@awetisimgaming7473
@awetisimgaming7473 2 года назад
From watching the other video on cd's, as well as this one, i would think it fun to mention the interpolation being especially good on this one player, my friend and i had played a cd on when i was a kid, we had a three days grace album that had broken a good 40% of the disc off and luckily still had the ring in the center to hold it in place, and this disc played all but one song without even a noticeable difference! I found this to be fascinating back then, and knowing what i know now, this is still crazy, and a really cool feat of such a system
@ryanbates9668
@ryanbates9668 Год назад
I've got a CLD-D504 :P Bought it for $80 off an old couple who bought it new in the mid 90's.. works perfect, I love Craigslist.
@Takeshi357
@Takeshi357 5 лет назад
There is a very small handful of DTS laserdiscs that don't have offer an analog soundtrack. Blade for example uses the analog tracks for a commentary and isolated music track, so you can't watch the movie at all without a DTS decoder.
@nneeerrrd
@nneeerrrd 6 лет назад
Wow. That was gorgeous!
@silviab.850
@silviab.850 6 лет назад
ST TMP was the second VHS I purchased (it was 1986 and, as far as I can remember, Laserdiscs weren't available yet here in Italy).
@ChristianAbrahamSanchezSanchez
I love your videos, please make a video about the HDDVD and Blue Ray War
@benji888578
@benji888578 6 лет назад
Laser pickup mechanism: Both use a FM signal (Frequency Modulated) to read the discs. The difference between LDs and all other digital optical disc formats: for digital the pits and lands are all the same size either 1 or 0. For analog, they are of varying size, thus the more complicated pickup mechanism.
@wadmodderschalton5763
@wadmodderschalton5763 5 лет назад
LOL, almost like the same head from the cryptid dance video, at 5:23.
@Peter-pu7bo
@Peter-pu7bo 4 года назад
I was stunned for a few minutes, when he told (and showed) us that this machine has an actual HE-NE laser inside........
@benji888578
@benji888578 6 лет назад
4:30 I had this LD!! Some of what it contained I’d seen in computer animation film festivals in the 1980s, (they were all short films). I had another one that had early Pixar stuff on it…the lamp…“State of the Art of Computer Animation (1988)” I think. These were the development and state of the art in computer animation for the 1980s.
@charliebirkner8729
@charliebirkner8729 5 лет назад
The two lasers idea is ALSO confounded by the fact that the laser has to STOP to play the other side as you had said, and then spin it the other way (It makes sense that discs all spin the "same" way, based on reading from a single side, I never thought about that). If there were two lasers, side B would effectively be spinning BACKWARDS, right? I had wondered why this never happened, and even imagined a second laser buffering enough ahead of time to provide a 500m relay style handoff "seamless" playback, BUT... After realizing this, you'd either have to create some kind of serious buffering magic to decode the backwards information as the laser "tried" to read it in reverse (ugh), or create YET ANOTHER special kind of disc format that would have side B encoded so the disc would could keep spinning "the wrong way." Djeeze...
@RyanSchweitzer77
@RyanSchweitzer77 6 лет назад
A great video, and quite accurate and correct about LD and it's features and characteristics, except for one thing I can't help but to point out: At 21:16, a disc is pictured that the presenter refers to as a disc that is heavily "laser rotted". This is incorrect, what you're seeing is what most laserdisc collectors (expecially those who collect the DiscoVision-era discs) refer to as a "green slime" dead side. To explain, it's a side on an LD that's usually the other side of a single-sided LD, or the last side of the last disc of a multi-disc set that is not needed by the disc's program and (usually, with some exceptions) has no readable video information on it, usually for newer laserdiscs a side of white unplayable plastic. . Most "dead sides"of laserdiscs were also an actual playable video program with a screen instructing you to turn the disc over (the most famous being the "laserdisc turtle" on Pioneer-pressed discs, user VWestlife has a video posted of it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IvqzBQIVMwc.html). There was also DiscoVision's practice of repurposing pressed LD sides that didn't meet their QC specs (in spite of how lax they were in their early days) and applying a translucent opaque coating to make the disc side unable to play (this could be defeated by removing the coating with alcohol, which broke it down like varnish stripper, making the side playable again), and then there were the "Green Slime" dead sides discs that DiscoVision made (like the Star Trek disc for Paramount featured here). The reason for their namesake appearance is because these sides were made of clear plastic, foregoing the usual reflective plating step of the disc manufacturing process, and therefore showing the sprayed greenish adhesive used to bond both halves of the disc together. It's likely that the adhesive is the cause of the laser rot, by reacting & oxidizing the reflctive layer of the playable side (side 3) that the adhesive has direct contact with on the other disc side, as most laser rot has been attributed to.
@alvallac2171
@alvallac2171 5 лет назад
*its features (possessive) it's = it is
@seanmachine
@seanmachine 6 лет назад
I had no idea I was interested in this. and yet, here I am, over an hour later, staring at the light reflected off a CD like holy scripture.
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