Last flight of the Seagull Mosquito 

@@mustangspitfire Ja, echt zonde. Zeker omdat de setup nu gewoon perfect was.

Die is helemaal vernield. Helft van de romp is confetti, vleugels opengespleten, ... Het was ook niet mijn model maar van een vriend maar we hebben er samen veel over geredeneerd, gediscussieerd etc. Ik heb er altijd mee gevlogen als testpiloot en we waren net begonnen om hem te laten vliegen door m'n clubvriend. Jammer...

@@driesneyrinck aw, zeer spijtig inderdaad :(

Thanks for the reaction! I still believe the counter rotating propellors really helped. The Mosquito doesn't have big directional stability (vertical tail is not that big, fuselage not that heigh) so if you can rule out some troubles by using counter rotating propellors? Why wouldn't you. But please, lock the propnut of the CW very decent (CCW too, but that one is self tightening). On the other hand, if your Mosquito flies well I wouldn't change it. It worked out for us though

Tsja, er gaat een lange geschiedenis aan vooraf. Het zou nooit geen toestel geworden zijn die altijd meekwam naar het plein, maar toch....

Bij een CW draaiende prop kan de propmoer gewoon losdraaien. Hier had er een locking moer op moeten zitten, of twee moeren. Vliegen op 1 motor? Tegen dat je het beseft wat er gebeurd is het rijkelijk te laat. BIj 1 motor uit is eigenlijk het beste devies: de andere ook direct afzetten en proberen binnen te glijden. Dat heb ik vroeger ook 1x gehad met een ander toestel, maar is toen ook mislukt. Veel hangt ook af van de grootte van het kielvlak, de hoogte van de romp. De hoeveelheid richtingsstabiliteit. Als je het al weet dat er 1 motor uit is kan je nog proberen... Maar dit is een zware jongen, geen lichte foamy. We waren eigenlijk kansloos...

If you're aware that you lost a motor you can try that. But we weren't aware (happened quite far from us). And gliding in this Mosquito is just impossible. As soon as we lost the motor it was game over. I tried and fought until it crashed but to no avail

@@driesneyrinck Yup, keep a close eye on battery pack health and land early with a twin setup.

That's exactly what we said too ....

Part of the hobby unfortunately....

I think a self locking nut is better (we call it a nyloc here). Anyway if this saves one model it's worthwhile. What kind of brand is your partenavia? I have one not yet finished from modelstudio.cz

@@BenErikNess Exactly, those are our feelings too. There will be kits and planes available for a long long time

Bedankt voor je reactie. Nee, stroommetingen vooraf sluiten dit uit, en bij de eerdere vluchten bleek alles zeer doenbaar qua warmte. Motoren zijn niet verbrand. Maar is zeker een factor om rekening mee te houden bij electroaandrijving.

Thanks, part of the hobby....

@@driesneyrinck yes and such a beautiful plane 🤔😉🙃😎 NZ

Zeker :-(

We can only guess that you have taken the short cut, simply watched and couldn't be bothered to read the description and other comments before commenting yourself.

No, no stall. At least not at the start of the mishap. If you look closely you'll see that in the final spin it suddenly goes the other way. That's me trying and fighting everything I have. The first spiral is losing the motor, the opposite spiral is the stall during my fighting. You actually hear a screetching noise, be aware that the sound takes some time before it reaches us (it was quite far at that moment). Broken parts we found afterwards confirmed this e.g. we found the 3D printed spinner were the central hole was melted out. The nut went loose, the spinner and propellor started freewheeling, created a lot of friction against the spinner (and eventually lost the prop). That's the screech.

@@johnnichol9412 Some more explanation in my previous comment. It stalled eventually but first we got a spin from losing a motor, and the stall goes in the other way around. My initial thoughts were immediately that this could not be a stall because the model turned right just before the spin. And that turn was not steered. But in the end, it has all the same result....

Try again. Tell me, where in the video can you conclude that it was not a stall, but a motor loss? Instantly? You have no idea. Luckily you have plenty of videos on your channel where you demonstrate your one motor/engine skill.... The first thing you think is: "Stall!" I have 8 years experience with twins and had my one motor events before. Even had a rebuilded trainer equiped with two motors to have this kind of fun on purpose. To learn. My H9 Twin otter lost one motor too (loose magnets) and it just flew 'not so comfortable'. The Twin otter has a huge vertical stabilizer too, the Mossie doesn't. Two things didn't help: we were quite far away. It was the plan that the owner (who flew when the mishap started, see the unexpected turn to the right right before the spin entry) would have brought it into the downwind leg, I would have taken over for the landing. So I took over instantly after the mishap started, so we lost there a bit of time. The event started when he was setting up for the downwind leg. If the mishap would have happened above the field, maybe, just maybe we would have been aware that we lost actually a motor. Now we didn't know that until half an hour after the crash. So in the opinion that we faced a stall I took the controls over, cut briefly the power, pushed her down, applied power again, countersteered. But there was not enough time, height, possibilities to recover it. I tried even when it was behind the trees. And actually the trees were in the way too If I had known instantly that we lost a motor I would have killed the other one too instantly and leave it like that.

Bummer as it sounded smooth and flew great.