True, but the second part about the fall dmg, if it's something like while she's in her nightsoul burst or skill she takes no fall dmg, that'd be a pretty good QoL buff, no?
The chinese gamers hate auto target issues with a kit. Remember the Yae Miko backlash? Good to see that whole incident made them take auto targeting issues very seriously, even today.
his literally says “quality of life buffs” everytime he refers to them. and then proceeds to name off those quality of life buffs. they’re not buffs to her kit or damage, but her qol. they make her more functional, therefore they are buffs. in the same way neuvi’s fidget spinner gimmick was changed and was considered a nerf, everything he said about maulani was indeed a buff.
... which is a buff. Bro what you being so technical for. She gets stronger after this fix, no matter how indirect, so it's a buff. It doesn't have to be damage numbers, and even then you could argue that missing your damn E due to a bug is a huge dps loss.
I actually don't think Xilonen was the reason her signature weapon got nerfed. I think it was because the weapon was going to be way too powerful on certain units that aren't intended to scale off defense, such as Jean and Qiqi. With Jean, because main stats aren't really doing that much for her, you could afford to run her on a degenerate triple defense 4p VV build, and she would have just enough def to hit the 3k benchmark. As long as you could get enough ER through substats or team energy, she would give 40% VV res shred and 36% dmg bonus and essentially become Kazuha with teamwide heals. The Furina/Jean core would be utterly broken and completely outclass any other team healer (i.e. xianyun, baizhu) outside of teams that need their specific niche or reaction. At C0 Furina, this core would be competitive even with C0R1 Xilonen/Furina, since the 40% extra dmg bonus Xilo gives is offset by the lower fanfare generated off her single target heal. Qiqi sort of fits in the same boat, although more niche. Because Qiqi has one of the highest base defenses in the game, it's actually not too difficult to get her to the 3k threshold, thus letting you still use proper mainstats for 1 or 2 pieces. The 36% team dmg would make her the best on-field driver for Furina teams, badly outclassing Kokomi who cannot come close to providing that level of buffing with any catalyst option currently. While I would have loved to see this chaos, I can see why hoyo wanted to avoid this direction lol.
@@BotanVal oh well that kinda sucks but i guess it makes sense. Since after elegy there hasn't been a resurgence universal good support weapons. So far all we got are niche but good like Key and Crane but also some duds like jadefall.
@@usmanya5110 yeah they’ve been really careful about making universal support weapons. Like the way this weapon was balanced was to make it a bad option for characters like furina, kazuha, or bennett. the way they nerfed it still makes it a strong option for albedo and chiori though, which makes me think they to keep this as a competitive option for them, instead of making the weapon xilo specific like a lot of the other new signature weapons
@@srebrooofor Xilonen? Her signature, for subdpses/dpses? Chiori's especially if they scale on defense like Albedo and Chiori, although if you get Chiori's while you wanted to get Xilonen's, that can work , especially if you want to build a main DPS Xilonen.
Then you gotta start bombing the main sub. This Mualani only happened because of that one guy that uploaded the compiled clips of her being buggy. They shadowbanned the guy and removed his post, mods tagged it as misinformation, but many following post agreed to those bugs.
No it doesn’t lol I have kinich When use his skill and the enemy moves the little cannon attack or bullet follows the enemy at which it was launched The only thing I want them to do is to increase the big dragon’s area for attacking
While they’re fixing Mualani kinks, they better get to fixing the targeting of the aoe missiles. I can’t even count how many times those hits have missed, hit the wrong enemy, or been delayed by 3-5 seconds before hitting. The burst targeting is also pretty jank, sometimes hitting the enemy immediately, and other times, taking a trip for 3 seconds before hitting. If these are addressed, Mualani would just further cement herself as one of the best dpses 🔥
@GraveUypo I think people don't realize how insanely close Mualani and Kinich to the freaking dragon sovereign and 4th fatui harbinger. I can't imagine what the Snezhnaya powercreep will look like
@@GraveUypo Depends on what you define powercreep as. Mualani can dish out the highest dmg in the game, but is a pain in the ass to play at a level where she is actually the best. That’s not necessarily her power creeping everyone ink
The change to Peak Patrol Song is still good for Albedo and Chiori support builds. It'll still be a good support weapon, just not as good as it could have been. 😢
Getting the weapon is much more valuable than C2, not merely because of the apples to apples comparison. It's also an apples to oranges comparison. Having a weapon means that you can transfer all the effects to another user, and, while the unintended user may not make use of all the effects, it still enables you to potentially make niche builds that will get your job done better. Like, for whatever reason you would be using Albedo for instance; not only does the sword have higher stats than Cinnabar Spindle, it's also much more cohesive to his gameplay as a support. Geo doesn't react with anything; having the Elemental Skill DMG DEF scalar bonus from Cinnabar Spindle affect Albedo's skill damage is pointless by comparison to having a universal partywide Elemental DMG Bonus that provides more value than a selfish damage ramp, so it is way better. Chiori could also make use of it because of her mostly construct off field gameplay, but her signature does give her much more raw Geo damage with that massive 80+% Crit DMG stat. If any more sword units are released that have DEF scaling, this will be great as a universal weapon much like how Aqua Simulacra or Staff of Homa are good because of their raw stat and flexibility with HP scaling. The sword was the real problem to be honest, because it is WAY too universal of a damage bonus for how easy it is to get off, especially for sword units that don't need to scale as much like Jean, Xingqui, or Lynette. Heck, even Kazuha could make use of it by sacrificing the EM that used apply single swirl or double swirl, to now having triple damage boost instead (albeit, at lower scale) while still shredding RES and still having a majority of his kit's buffing.
Loving both Mualani QoL updates; but when he mentioned Mualani was getting QoL, for some reason I assumed it was about the missiles in caves and what not. XD
Yea you can have that uptime almost 100% compared to Furina that you still need to stack up her fanfare and is not always 75% uptime and only like 40-50% if you only got her to C0/C1
You can easily reach 75% dmg buff on c1 furina, since the cap is now 100% dmg buff and you get like 30 or 40% just by pressing ult. @@ziancarvenreynoso9191
I'm not pulling for her signature weapon, so it's an overall buff for me with that res to interruption passive. I'm saving all leftover primos for Mavuika.
Honestly it’s such a small nerf I’m still think it’s worth it, just not as good looking, she a support and most people are gone be using fav on her anyways
If Xilonen was to make additional changes either for beta or even the final release, I would love for her normal attack and plunge attack mutipliers to be buffed even more. The best Geo main DPS characters (Navia, Itto, and Noelle) are all claymore users. Having a viable sword for the main DPS role seems refreshing to me. I am planning on getting C2 R1 Xilonen and while I already have a C2 R1 Itto, I may at least try a Main DPS build for Xilonen if i get bored as using her as a support. I feel it is more fun to use less popular characters or more unorthodox playstyles for popular ones. One reason why I got Emilie at C2 R1 is because is unpopular but is very strong if properly invested and in the right team.
Nah, her multipliers are decent but not atrocious therefore it's 'balanced' in proportion to her kit. With her shred and buffs partnered with her constellations, any major change in her multipliers might surpass most top-tier DPSes in the game. The last thing that Hoyo wants to happen is creating a broken/overpowered unit.
Despite her being potentially one of the best support you're still asking for a buff, too greedy lol. If she became the best of both worlds, as a support and DPS, then there's no reason not to choose her over other geo counterparts. Very bad for players' (with Itto, etc.) and mihoyo's perspective.
@darkmori8526 I admit that maybe I am being a little greedy. But I honestly want Nomal Attack main DPS Xilonen to be equal to Itto and Noelle, not superior. I don't a situation like how Albedo was directly powercrept by Chiori (at least in most aspects). Hoyoverse could have easily restricted Xilonen to just a support. For example, they could have given no defense scalings for geo infusions normals and plunging, and made it that so that her elemental burst healing and elemental skill resistance shred did not work at all if there were 3 or 4 geo units on the team. I just think her dual purpose nature was a little more equal.
@@JaxxBaxRaxor Your suggestion is very bad. Noelle wet rock team is a thing, and by replacing Noelle with Xilonen you can easily bypass the condition. A better Noelle (res shred, minimum hitlag, heals, etc.) that can be paired with Furina, boom another game breaking character. I'm not against flexible character, but what you're suggesting is another Neuvillete in the making (OP af with minimal effort) that makes other DPS obsolete which is again bad for mihoyo.
I was really considering getting her R1, but after the nerf I think I’ll pass. Not only did they cut 1/3 of a team wide buff, they also added this goofy ahh self buffing mechanic for a character who doesn’t deal damage (hello Baizhu, hello Kokomi). I hate passives like these, it’s nothing but a waste of space Now it’s very obvious that I will go for C2 instead, but maybe if I get lucky I will try to also get R1, no hype for that anymore though. I was so exited that they removed crits for her and focused more on buffing a team and now they ruined it again
I mean bro it is still a reasonable a great Weapon they did that because now you can choose between Xilonen being your main dps or a supportive role just my own opinion so is still your final decision, Hope you got lucky getting her C2R1 😊
Why give Xilonen personal dmg tho, its nit really matter. yea this nerf really wrong place to give for me. the sig is kinda tempting aince i have rate on but daaaaang feels bad
Silly comment. IMO all characters should have a meaningfully amount of damage. It's because most supports have beyond garbage damage that people have to ultra invest on DPS units. And it makes no sense, Healers in MMO dealt less damage because they had to multitask between dealing damage and healing/cleansing teammates. In newer games, Supports do 0 damage because they have putrid damage scaling on abilities while also being forced to use stats that don't contribute to damage anyway, it's way too much.
yeah they should just have moved that 10% dmg bonus to a 30% def bonus to help out poor itto since she's so damn bad right now (and benefit noelle sneakily)
Omg this I'm having the same problem with Neuvillette. Whenever I use his burst,most of the time he doesn't even drop any water droplets. So I definitely think it's a bug since it's been almost a YEAR already and hoyo still hasn't fixed it.
you need to use skill to mark enemies and then either use a charged attack (unless in AoE with multiple enemies marked, ideally go through the rest of the team first (between skill and charged attack) to have the mark evolve after 5s and you'll get more BoL) or defeat marked enemies. Unless you just mean the issue with BoL resetting after exiting the domain or re-starting it. I doubt they'd do anything about that at this point.
Misleading information... Xilonen wasn't the one that received a buff. It was a 5star weapon. Those are two different things, which makes the title misleading.
I assume her weapon can also be a slight buff to Aggravate/Burning teams since it’ll also boost Dendro Damage (and Dendro has an artifact set for res shred anyways so her not being able to apply that still works)
@@TheLastAirbender3468That moment when you are about to finish the last one remaining with a nuke but the shark just flies away for a vacation. I hope it gets fixed because that would be like Dehya targeting issue.
Mualani has so many bugs that fixing this is not that relevant considering sometimes her multitarget elemental abilty passive don't work even thoug enemies are targeted the rockets dont work and only the first enemy take the damage ( damage nerfed by her other elemental ability passive) not talking about the amount of times that the burst miss the target or the amount of times you hop on and off the shark becouse you obviously press the elemental ability 2 times ( since some times you can't activate it with just one touch becouse you are stunned ) they have so many things to fix to this character.
Soooo happy they fixed Mualani. I made a CS report about the issue since I noticed a lot of her attacks would miss or her burst would go through enemies. Hopefully all the tracking issues has been fixed.
@alexprus7953 mine hasn't done that yet but I notice if you jump into the lava with her skating, she will sometimes take damage. Like the lava actually hits her when it shouldn't.
Im planning to play her with yoimiya. since Xilonen is a healer and provides interruption resistance at C1, is it strong enough to not run Yoimiya with a shielder? Im planning to get her C1 just to support Yoi becos kinda tired of having her sealed in a shield to maximize her damage potential
No ofc not, c0r0 is good enough. I think her main role is support/healer sidegrade for Kazuha/Bennett or upgrade for some. Team like Nuevilete Furina Kazuha Xilonen already have a ton bonus dmg so 25.6% from xilonen sign is nothing. For non furina team Xilonen c0r1 is where her signature shine
@@th0r0shvener52I will take R1. Idk how good her c1 is because only give 0.5 resistance interupt, its not worth. Unless if u consider her c2 in the future
I mean like, chiori will probably rerunning with her as the leaks say, so the weapon banner is still good. So if u get chiori's weapon thats probably still a win.
That is a good observation. Peak Patrol Strong is still a excellent weapon but it's in Hoyoverse's interest to keep the weapons from being *too universal. Especially now that weapon banners are cheaper (only one fate point to guarantee the preferred weapon instead of two).
@@JaxxBaxRaxorngl i kinda wish we have more great support weapons in the game. the last one we got was elegy. And So far the rest after have been very niche but good except for jadefall splendor(which is probably the worst support weapon in the game.).
even Kazuha freedom sworn become so niche that not many hyper carry can use it nowdays. but when i looking at nathlan main carry hope full they will use more normal and charge attack.
For a few days after the Nerf i was still coping for that weapon, i mean 25% buff is still strong but after recalculating, it's just not worth the pull anymore i guess everyone is just gonna use Fav now
Wait..... Mualani have a targeting problem. I though I was really terrible at the game on every time I waste burst or do my shark attack and end up missing on enemy bearly move. They almost never buff a character after release.
I was considering trying to grab her weapon since im close to pity on weapon banner and have garuntee, but Chiori's weapon would be pretty useless for me so its probably not worth the risk. Unless it ends up with Nahida running with her but thats unlikely.
No its even worse the weapon is a nerf for a lot of characters. Albedo,Jean and even Qiqi would benefit from that weapon. I am sure some people would consider pulling only for the weapon or even 2 copies. Xilonen is a good support, but her C0R1 is now not that special its barely on Kazuhas C0R0 level, without the grouping.
Wow... How long will it be till hoyo release a great or good support i mean the last one elegy and the ones that came out after are niche but at least good except for jadefall splendor. And it's not the fact that it only works with baizhu that makes it bad. No.. What makes it bad is that the weapon buffs himself only. And the other part of the passive is a basically an expensive version of a craftable.
I was saving hard for her but KINICH got me... Thinking to skip now! I've got a new toy until Mauvika. Xilonen is awesome but I don't have any Fontaine character she pairs with 😢
Glad they are fixing mulani, personally i think her clunkiness is justified keeping in mind the huge numbers she gives. I actually left gi for wuwa, as combat is superior there, and gi’s combat was not doing it for me anymore. But now with mulani, the best part is, it doesn’t feel i am fighting at all. She just surfs through enemies and bites with shark. This total change of fighting mechanics was what gi needed to counter competition like wuwa. These days i play gi more, love mulani’s fighting style, also her damage is so huge for f2p’s specially that she changes account value. Eg: that azdha boss, i could not kill with my hutao cause he kills her, even after running bennet etc. No other dps i have that does as much as hutao, so i was never able to solo him. I thought i need zhongli just so that my hutao could stay alive long enough to kill. But after mulani, in just 2 days of building her, she does 140k vape, without buffs. She killed azdha so fast, he couldn’t do half his transformations. Also her movement is super useful to quickly surf away from boss’s range. Sorry for this long ass message, i just love mulani too much, i think i need to get myself checked😅
i dropped wuwa because combat was pretty bad. i made a macro for a combat rotation and it beat the tower with basically no supervision. that's how braindead the thing is.
its a c6 xilonen buff, everyone else nerf, so its a bait change, pretty nasty i would say of hoyo. but still she's unbelievably strong so is her signature
@@doriansz3130 are you saying getting that much defense is particularly difficult for her? Lots of other comments say she doesn't do much damage unless you give her damage equipment and on-field her, so her supportive main stats aren't an issue, right?
@@mr.parker8014 Ofcourse you can get that DEF ,but you would need to run her in full DEF artifact or have really good DEF substats to get away with ER goblet or Healing Bonus circlet. Before the nerf the 3000 DEF was the perfect point ,that leaves room for more different builds. It makes her harder to build with R1. Now you can just run her with Favonius that 25% dmg from her R1 is not worth it,not even for her and even less for other characters.
It is you need 3200 DEF for 10% less dmg ,instead of 3000 DEF . It makes it slightly harder to build her ER ,because you could get away with a ER goblet or Healing bonus Circlet with decent substats,now thats not the case anymore ,you want all her Artitfact set to be DEF and hope to roll for some ER
@@hollow_universe42If you really like navia or xilonen, go for it, unless if you prefer having more characters than stronger characters, even tho c0 xilonen is already broken so her constellations and sig aren't necessary
@@hollow_universe42 The only team where Navia needs C2 Xilonen for Xilonen to actually support her is in Navia - Xilonen - Furina - Xianyun. In a normal Navia team with like Bennett + Xiangling, C0 Xilonen is sufficient and you can go R1 to boost the team damage (requires less pulls than 2 cons)
@@TotoyDestiny Geo always was expensive because it's works against any enemy. So probably they want to lock Xilonen Support Geo Res Shred behind C2 paywall.
I can not stress of bad I do not want chiori to run with her that is not only a bad banner but those weapons are not interchangeable at all even close and I would rather pull next to baizu over her at this point lol.
I think I'll go 2set def% + 2set healing bonus for Xilonen artifacts, I don't think "Scroll of the Hero of Cinder City" works on her while she can't do reaction off-field
Terrible idea. To activate her buffs you have to do two normal attacks while in night blessing state, so you will always proc crystallize and activate the hero set. Go for it.
@@xanderx3788 but still this "Scroll of the Hero" artifact is kinda complicated for proc Xilonen crystallize and I think it was made for off-field apply elem of Natlan characters to proc it easily. (it might be best for the archon itself...)
@@boucha91 you just need to proc crystallize and it activates the buff for 15 seconds, so all you need to do is apply hydro/pyro/electro/cryo before you switch to xilonen and you're set
@@xanderx3788 then how can u do that if Yoimiya was only pryo char and she need ER to proc herself articaft lol??? beside switching between characters and doing burst animations takes times like wasting -5sec and losing like bennett buff for 7s left
@@boucha91Xilonen’s buffs last the longest so you’d be using her first but Yoimiya can just charged attack lol. The only one who’d have an issue with this is Hu Tao.
