In America you show Honor by never giving up. In Japan you show Honor by accepting defeat in face of loss. That’s why this scene is epic because both ideologies clash
One of the greatest moments in cinema. It’s a great “never giving up” moment… but it’s much more than that - Everyone here hates him. He has killed the father of a family, who was also a great warrior and the people are having their duties and rules to katsomoto tested by letting him stay in the village. The people here begin by secretly relishing in him getting beaten up, thinking he is a fool for testing one of them sword to sword. Thinking how did such a great warrior lose to this guy. But he is not trying to win and he never attacks here, he’s showing them how that great warrior fell to him. He fights to his last breathe. The justifiable humiliation turns in to a realisation. Stunning. He even earns his first shred of respect too. As sound and sure as their honour is…He has his own sense of honour too.
one of the most powerful and touching scenes in film history. an expression of the indomitable human spirit. something we all deep-down have but many times lack to express in our own lives. we all respect the man or woman who can push against adversity, who can keep getting up again and again when life circumstances beat them down... who keep on until the last breath.
this scene is a prime example of who he is, what his been through and the kind of fighter and survivor he is. he knows how to take a beating. but at the same time he knows how to make a comeback.
I love how after he has nothing left, he won't let go of the sword when Taka pulls on it to take it away. Then just kinda sits there holding onto it without regard for whats coming next. Always gets me.
Ultimately this scene, to me, is about Algren trying to re-establish his worthiness as a soldier; a warrior. That he has pride, that he has resolve to keep standing and not to submit until he cannot any longer; even if he knows he is hopelessly outmatched. This foreshadows the great battle at the end when Algren and Matsumoto make their last stand with The Last Samurai.
Algren doesn't know yet, but he already lives by the way of the samurai, fighting with honor with no fear of death, almost a wish for it to come when fighting. Powerful.
rpg5861 what is sad is Tom Cruise's character soul and spirit is already broken it's been for a long time because he was seen the kind of battles that you wish you didn't wake up from he wants to die but he would rather die fighting if anything I would say he's determined to keep getting back up until he dies and that he was built to last in a fight to either kill and survive or fight and die tired but along the way he realizes what he's been doing is wrong
i think the hidden meaning is that Ujio is showing the little one that he need not fear his fathers killer, and by displaying his swordsmanship skills, shows that the samurai got his back, so he doens't grow up in fear. it was also a sort of punishement, needed to be done, look at the grim faces of Bob and Nobutada. Algren accepted that and took the beating willingly at the end, cause He felt guilt when Katsumoto told him that he lives in the house of the woman who's husband he had killed. it's not cause "he can't break his spirit" and stuff....
This was so powerful the hatred she had for him but at the same time she felt sorry for him and how they all hated him from her to the guy he fought in the rain even the son tried to kill him he came at him with so much emotion but he protected that family like it was his
Hiroyuki is so talented. I felt compelled to rewatch this scene after seeing his epic performance in Shogun. I'm so glad that he's getting the opportunity to shine by being cast in a lead role for once!
One of the concepts of Bushido is to fight with the mindset you are already dead. Therefore, you will not be cautious for your life like a coward, you fight with all of your life because you have forsaken it already. When the Japanese see this within Algren, they see he has the Samurai spirit they recognise in themselves, that he is not a typical barbarian westerner. And that when he took Hirotoro's life in the previous battle that resulted in his capture it was not "luck" - he is a Warrior of their own kind.
All though this scene shows Algrens great spirit, it also shows the immense skill and dedication of a samurai. You don't mess with a man who lives by skills passed down from several generations.
Such a great scene. What a deep meaning there is through that behavior. Never give up for what you believe in! Never give up from your purpose and dream.
Its an unspoken detail, but Ujo is most likely Katsumoto's Nephew's Kenjutsu instructor. Ujo actually respects Algren as a warrior and demanded he be allowed to commit suicide or at least be put out of his misery. Its his civic duty to stop Katsumoto's Son from allowing Algren to have a weapon (even if its a toy one). Its because of his respect that he finds Katsumoto's family turning Algren into a "pet" distasteful.
The thing that people forget is that Nathan grabbed the Bokken from Higen like it was just a stick. Nathan grabbed the Bokken with his hands around the Bokken's edge. That shows Nathan didn't take the fight seriously while Higen gave it his all. Also, by Nathan grabbing the Bokken, he wasn't treating it like a live blade and grabbing the Bokken is extremely disrespectful. THAT is the real reason why Ujio literally beat Nathan so badly.
I have heard before that bokken are actually not treated like live weapons. For example, traditional aikido masters treat training bokken just like pieces of wood, without following the etiquette required for real blades. I have heard this second-hand from my sensei who had asked a master from Aikikai Honbu .
No, it's because by holding a sword, he was assuming a role of equality. Ujio didn't think he was worthy of wielding a samurai blade. Plus he was a prisoner, so by holding a blade he was a potential threat. He wanted to make sure Algren didn't forget his place. There were many factors involved.
It's as simple as this: Ujio is not happy about the samurai being replaced by new western ways, and he wants to prove - more to himself than to anyone else - that his ways are better. Recall that in the deleted scenes, he was shown to lop the head off a guy who disrespected him. He's clearly anguished that the way of life he strongly believes in is dying. Moreover, he's still young and probably only just getting to truly live that life. So he's symbolically beating "The West" by whooping an injured soldier who doesn't have a clue how to use katanas. He's an excellent fighter in the Japanese style, but deep down he worries that the Japanese style won't survive this war. And he knows that riding down a bunch of peasants who had never seen a gun in their lives until a week before that battle does not mean much. He probably anticipates that he'll still have to make that doomed charge into the Hotchkiss guns. Meanwhile, Algren is fighting to prove himself rather than the Western way of war, to which he has no attachment. What exactly he's trying to prove is uncertain, but it's definitely not about any sort of ideology.
I think this scene is about meeting Estern and Western cultures. Question is not that american had been biten by Japan samurai: Biten he was because of his unrespectful way of fighting with the children. One has to respect one with whom he'll be fighting. This is Estern view of life or more exactlly how samuraies sow the life. In other hand we see of course "Never giving up".
+Arman Mkhitaryan it is funny that even Samurais, even Medieval knights in Europe had respect their enemy, only if the enemy was in the same social, law state that the warrior. They hadn't respect against a footman or an archer. Anyway, my opinion is, even if I like both warrior culture, that in a real fight there are no respect, no rules, no culture, no view of life, there is only winner and looser. Anybody shouldn't agree with me, but this is my view. War is not dancing.
UJIO. THE END. I LOVE THIS SCENE. FOR MANY REASONS. MOST IMPORTANT- I KNOW WHAT IS TO LAY DOWN UNDER THE RAIN AND JUST WANT TO DIE. I KNOW WHAT IT IS. AND WHAT IT IS TO GET UP...
i think the hidden meaning is that Ujio is showing the little one that he need not fear his fathers killer, and by displaying his swordsmanship skills, shows that the samurai got his back, so he doens't grow up in fear. it was also a sort of punishement, needed to be done, look at the grim faces of Bob and Nobutada. Algren accepted that and took the beating willingly at the end, cause He felt guilt when Katsumoto told him that he lives in the house of the woman who's husband he had killed. it's not cause "he can't break his spirit" and stuff....
No of course not and it makes is not a bad movie ,but a broken stick and then not broken makes it a little bit fake just like the rain was not real rain.They could do the broken stick scene over but waiting for the real rain cost to much money.@@JPVNG67
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