Late Adult Diagnosis of Autism & ADHD - Featuring

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@CuteCatsofIstanbul 10 месяцев назад

Here in Turkiye, when people talk about autism, it is always and only about children who are on the very far end of the spectrum. Thanks to Orion and Jenn, and other very precious channels I learnt that there are many of us out there who present very differently. Like Jenn, I've felt like an alien my whole life, blamed myself for it, hated myself for it. It was only when another 'normal' looking person I followed online got diagnosed with autism that I went 'hold on, autism can look like that?' and it was the biggest eye opener and welcome home fest ever. These collabs and interviews are so important, so thank you so much! I wouldn't wish the suffering and the loneliness I went through on any one so let's all raise awareness, let's all live our best lives. 🥰

@Catlily5 9 месяцев назад

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@Miss_Elaine_ 9 месяцев назад

"Well, you made it this far, what does it matter?" Well. In exactly one month I will be 54. I started the year extremely battered by the ups and downs of going into the work world, a master's degree, teaching credential etc about 5 years ago, and it was so bad it was like being dragged over sharp rocks. There is nothing like thinking you are neurotypical when you are not. I was so close to giving up. By some miracle, I got my diagnosis July of this year. Suddenly, I had accommodations from my school. I got a therapist. I got a freaking social worker from my university. I'm almost done. I'm almost a fully credentialed sped teacher, and it ALL wouldn't have been possible without the official diagnosis. It. Matters. Thanks, y'all.

@diesalott 10 месяцев назад

"I'm a perfectly fine neurodivergent person." That made me happy, thanks for the interview.

@lizzietennell2366 9 месяцев назад

I loved this too❤. It's a great affirmation.

@Fast-e-Learning 9 месяцев назад

Can you discuss the unique privileges that femme presenting aspies get as opposed to male presenting?

@Kagomai15 9 месяцев назад

@@Fast-e-Learning This question reads as disingenuous to me, jsyk

@Fast-e-Learning 9 месяцев назад

@@Kagomai15 women aspies get married and have relationships at a much higher rate than men aspies for one, quit the ad hominem and get to the facts

@Kagomai15 8 месяцев назад

@@Fast-e-Learning that's not a privilege dude and I didn't attack you I said you seemed disingenuous. As in, like you're baiting a trap, not asking a genuine question. Don't call them Aspies. Marriage isn't a "unique privilege" it's a really weird government bank thing that more people ought to be allowed in on, imo. Polyamorous relationships ought to be able to marry. The reason your question seemed like bait is because it smelled like the old "why doesn't feminism talk about how women have it easier than men?" BS that I used to see all the time, and the fact that you asked it under someone's completely innocuous comment and not in your own comment thread directed at the youtubers?? Maybe I read you wrong, but my reply wasn't an ad hominem. I don't think it's a "unique privilege" to go so under the radar for so long that you despise yourself and hide who you are from your spouse. It's not a privilege that a lot of autistic women end up in shitty relationships with shitty people. Marriage isn't all it's cracked up to be. And a lot of women get trapped in marriages through childbirth still! That's why they overturned Roe v. Wade! The government wants to control women. Yeah, autistic women statistically do better at masking and camouflaging than their male counterparts and it must seem really frustrating that they can dodge some of the more autism-related bullying, but trust me, they are just as affected by all the bullcrap as men and boys are, they internalize all of that crap, they're just better at lying about it, I guess. Because girls are socialized to learn those things faster than boys.

@jombii-7090 10 месяцев назад

I love that all of the autistic RU-vidrs that im subscribed to are collabing together 😌

@Megra12 9 месяцев назад

I SO resonated with that uncanny valley section. That is my experience - I am just off enough that I am on the outside of every single group, but not off enough that people notice that I’m on the outside. Absolutely everyone just assumes I must be on the inside of someone else’s group… just not theirs

@drgnldy8101 10 месяцев назад

It is amazing to watch my own life story speaking from someone else’s mouth!!! Thank you both and much love to you all!!!🙏🪷🙏

@biaberg3448 9 месяцев назад

This is my experience too, thanks! 😊

@lorrijmv593 9 месяцев назад

Well Said! Same experience! Already subscribed to Jenn’s channel

@johnbillings5260 10 месяцев назад

I think we are kind of drawn to each other, but not necessarily on aesthetics. For me, when I see something I find familiar to myself I will be drawn to it.

@pipwhitefeather5768 10 месяцев назад

I agree. I have friends and relationships I've had over my life and I have since discovered they are autistic.

@Rabenov-wq8qy2qg5t 9 месяцев назад

It seems to be an autistic trait. It is kind of funny that we are able to "detect" each other :-)

@Tsordi 9 месяцев назад

Jenn does well unscripted here. Her comment about realizing she’s not a crappy person really hit me. It’s so helpful to hear from people whose stories are so similar to mine. I’ve long suspected I was autistic, but it wasn’t a perfect fit, and I’ve often found ADHD content “helpful” (why not, organization hacks can help anyone!) without making the connection I might have that, too. But I’m starting to realize that the AuDHD experience is a weird third thing that holds hands with autism and ADHD while having its own characteristics (which Jenn does a great job describing). Great interview - conversations like this genuinely do help people understand themselves better.

@kittybanni 8 месяцев назад

I love how honest autistic people are. If I see someone absolutely slaying i tell them. I have gone out of my way to say I love your dress! Or your beard is awesome, etc. I think it's nice to hear.

@BuckeBoo 10 месяцев назад

I was diagnosed AuDHD last year after my son was recommended for testing. I relate to both of you. There are some common autistic traits I don’t have and some common ADHD traits I don’t have. Couple this with each diagnosis can cover up the other diagnosis traits many people in my life have difficulty accepting my diagnoses. I’m the same way with my wife and get criticized for not making eye contact enough! Misunderstood for sure my whole life. Really appreciate this conversation. Jenn has my same sense of humor.

@NeuroaffirmingMom 9 месяцев назад

Thank you for having her for an interview! So nice to hear from another Autistic ADHDer sharing her experience!

@CoachDonnaMarie 4 месяца назад

Thank you. I felt like this conversation was a warm hug for me. Wish I could hug you back. Thank you for confirming that I am on the right path for the purpose of self-discovery and self-love. And for confirming that I have the right to see myself as different/other without thinking I am less than. I was suicidal in the past… it was self-hatred fueled by perfectionism because I always knew I was different… and one day I woke up from that and decided to love myself unconditionally. My journey as a neurodivergent individual is also a journey of self love. Thanks again!

@mick4300 10 месяцев назад

I am pretty sure I fall into the same catagory however currently diagnosed late ADHD & more recently OCD. The way Jen explains her experience is so similar.. I haven't ever felt like I fit in & it's hard to put my finger on why. I find eye contact difficult with most people, however was forced to do it as a child otherwise it was considered rude so I learnt to briefly look at someones eyes & then stare at people's mouths & lip read to filter speech from any background noise. I find social situations draining, have no idea how to start a conversation, I don't fully get social rules, I am often told I am blunt & I also understand some types of sarcasm when a sarcastic tone is used but miss more subtle sarcasm. I do think that having ADHD masks some of the autistic traits & visa versa, but I also think that the ASD diagnosis has been missed because communicating what I am struggling with that no body sees from the outside, to someone else so they can understand is hard. All Autism tests pick it up but I look like I am functioning okay from the outside but just find it hard to communicate the internal struggle. I feel like a walking contradiction 🤷‍♀️ Resonated with this vid hardcore, cheers to you both!

@tims9434 10 месяцев назад

Autism is unlikely to be missed especially having had a diagnosis of ADHD and OCD. You can by all means explore getting an Autism assessment but understand you may be incorrect.

@Catlily5 9 месяцев назад

@@tims9434 I was diagnosed with both ADHD and OCD before being diagnosed with autism. A lot of factors go into it. She can't assume she will be diagnosed but she can't assume that she won't be diagnosed either.

@erynmorgan1717 9 месяцев назад

I love watching @NeurodiverJENNTt she is so great and as a late to the party autistic lady with 2 grown kids 18 and 19 yrs and a husband who is also autisitc, I love watching her, so relatable. Because we thought our kids behaviours were perfectly "normal" because that's how we played, thought and felt we missed our kids getting diagnosed earlier in life. Not one teacher said it directly to us, although looking back there were sublte hints along the way, that we just didn't pick up on. Thank you for the interview Orion and helping to promote her channel.

@nate2838 2 месяца назад

Thank you both for this. And to Jenn, the raw and real has a power to it that no one who doesn't understand from lived experiences can fake. And that is a powerful thing for someone to see when they have been having similar struggles. Especially when they are newer to the understanding of how their life has been impacted by their AuDHD or Autism.

@jonathon5075 3 месяца назад

Great conversation. I don't know many other autistic folks in real life, so it's extremely helpful to hear these stories.

@cre8iveflare 10 месяцев назад

Thank you Orion and Jenn for this one. Your content makes me feel less alone in my autism struggles. I particularly am curious about ADHD because i believe theres a lot of crossover in my case especially.

@stephenie44 9 месяцев назад

Thank you, Orion, for board casting Jenn’s platform. I enjoy your content, but it’s so important for me to also have access to female auDHD content creators, too.

@barrielynn8959 9 месяцев назад

This is so important. Thank you. 53 yo female here, realizing without a doubt (and without a formal diagnosis) that I am ADHD/Autistic and suspect many other family members are as well. I don’t personally feel like I need a formal diagnosis but also don’t feel I will be believed without one. In the process of disclosing to friends and family. Everything Jen has said here is spot on. Having people notice there is something off about you but not enough that you require special accommodations. That’s due to the high masking. Thank you for this interview.

@secretfox8940 9 месяцев назад

So excited to see her on your show. I found her channel a few weeks back. I haven't gotten a diagnosis yet, but her video about how ADHD and Autism feel when you have both resonated with me so much.

@ninaandianfan21 9 месяцев назад

She’s basically me when it comes to the adhd and autism story she’s telling in the beginning omg! I relate so much!

@ensoknit 9 месяцев назад

I think this is one of the most important videos I have watched ever in my life! Thank you both.

@kyrstielynn2417 Месяц назад

I watch you because you are HILARIOUS and so relatable and kind. But I will be watching her now too!

@staceyruwoldt9158 9 месяцев назад

You're awesome mate, Orion Kelly my most favourite part about you is your humour! 😃 I watch your content regularly you're wonderful for whom you are!! Though I'm a woman I really appreciate the male perspective, when it comes to being Autistic said with respect and kindness 😊

@Nocturnal_Asteria 9 месяцев назад

Thank you both so much for this interview! Like both of you, I've always felt weird and unacceptable, like this world is not where I belong. Now I know that I'm not broken, I'm neurodivergent! (AuDHDer) I have an AuDHD sibling, an AuDHD nibling, my mom has ADHD, and looking back I can see that my Dad was autistic and that his alcoholism was a way of coping with the world's overwhelmingness. My diagnoses filled in lots of those blanks and answered many of my questions about my childhood for sure. Now, I'm starting the journey of learning how to love myself. 💖

@johnvreugdenhil9779 9 месяцев назад

Thank you so very much for sharing Jenn with all of us. You have really been an inspiration to my wife and I as we sort out autism and how to work with it. You bringing Jenn into the discussion has been such a game helper for us. My wife was watching this and just kept repeating "that is exactly how I feel" all along in this video. We have both subscribed to Jenn's channel and will now be following her as well as you in all of your future content. Thank you both so much for being so open and helpful for all of us out here learning how to navigate the world that until now we have been just bumping around in and hoping for better outcomes. Knowledge is power and you are both bringing so much of it into so many lives!! Thank you, Thank you, THANK YOU!!

@KPaul7 9 месяцев назад

I enjoyed this video, Thank you both❤ I gravitated with ADHD not fitting exactly. I was late self diagnosed at 41 and medically diagnosed at 42. Both at the time my son was. For me ADHD pales and comparison to autism. I am the beginning of thinking. I also have bi-polar 2 in addition to ASD/ADHD. The hypermanic highs that only last weeks to a month or so. Then, the major depression that lasts months to years. I just wanted to put this out there. Not only to see if anyone else has all three, but so anyone else knows it is possible, and you are not alone. Hypermanic is not as extreme as mania in bi-polar 1 and is much harder to diagnose. For me, I was in denial of my major depression. Witch makes it even harder to see. Thank you for reading, comments wanted ❤️

@Catlily5 9 месяцев назад

I am diagnosed with ADHD and autism but the autism is more pronounced. I also have bipolar 1 but have more hypomanic episodes than full manic episodes. My friend is also all three. So we do exist!

@KPaul7 9 месяцев назад

@Lilycat5 Thank You so much ❤️ I knew I did, but I was curious about what was diagnosed first? For me it was autism and ADHD together and my Bi-polar now.

@Catlily5 9 месяцев назад

@@KPaul7 Oh, I was diagnosed with bipolar in my early twenties. ADHD at age 27 and autism at age 47.

@SilverMoonbeam2 9 месяцев назад

Followed Jen’s channel after watching this. Loved it 🤗

@SusKa22 8 месяцев назад

Sounds so familiair . Thank you for this information. The daily issues and struggles are clear. Due to all the information on Orion’s channel, mom on the spectrum, and also this information changed my life for good. And it started all with my primary -school-vriend. And my twins’ assesments. And monitoring a lot. Reading, listening, studying and vice versa. But my PTSS due abuse is still here. Wich is my issue right now.😅

@tims9434 10 месяцев назад

New subscriber alert ⚠️ I've subscribed as i was late disgnosed with both too. Thanks for this collaboration Orion. Don't ever change, you're excellent. I'll happily watch both of your uploads ❤

@jasonthomas208 10 месяцев назад

I was just diagnosed autistic in October at 57, my life has been an absolute nightmare and most doctors just told me to pull myself together!

@pipwhitefeather5768 10 месяцев назад

Me too! Useless they were. Every time I tried to get help.

@Rabenov-wq8qy2qg5t 9 месяцев назад

My doctor didn't even know what I am talking about. Anyway, I score very high in Autism, demand avoidance and monotropism tests.

@laarsss 9 месяцев назад

Thank you Orion, your Videos help me a lot these days

@Catlily5 9 месяцев назад

I have found 10 to 20 videos on Autism and ADHD. If you type both in a RU-vid search you can find them. There is even a term used now called AuDHD that means having both autism and ADHD.

@lindaT82 10 месяцев назад

Awesome! Thank you 🙂

@Catlily5 9 месяцев назад

I was diagnosed with ADHD in 2007 and autism in 2023. I laughed when they diagnosed me with ADHD because I get stuck snd can't change activities much more than I get distracted. I am diagnosed with ADHD but I barely meet the requirements. It doesn't fit me that well but it does explain my dislike of routines and a few other things that aren't usual for autism.

@jennasorscia9044 9 месяцев назад

There are physical characteristics that are tied to neurodivergence. A larger or smaller than average head circumference, a shorter or farther distance between the eyes, smaller or larger than average eyes, a smaller or larger stature, unusual muscle tone (high or low).

@Dancestar1981 10 месяцев назад

I have both and was diagnosed late

@stlouisx50 8 месяцев назад

Omg thank you both. I have followed you Orion for about a year and have watched and listened and every time you describe autistic traits and mannerisms I definitely think I have autism. I did a test online and it said its a strong possibility. One thing I would add that I experience is others can do things with ease while I struggle tp catch on. In other cases I can do things with ease as long as it's comfortable. I feel outside myself like I'm a 3rd person. I unfortunately rank my stage of emotions differently and recognize it, know It should be in other steps. Such as seeing someone fall and they fall in the same place again. I would get mad, like how can you do that again? But later feel bad that I didnt ask if they were ok first and not even get mad. I shouldn't but do. I'm the type of person who can want to correct a mistake and also feel bad about the mistake. I also always care about people, but can put the wrong emotions first. I hate this about me. It affects my marriage and family members. Another thing that I hate and can't cope with are the job assessment tests. i just can't complete them right. If things are explained to me I can get them. Frustrations and outrages are a big thing for me. I am at s point that I want to be tested, but have no confidence in the test as I totally believe my kid has autism too, but was tested and they say no, but borderline this and that and all the things usually mentioned in Orions videos.

@tahrey 9 месяцев назад

All the misinformation things ring strongly with me, I'd have probably sought a diagnosis off my own back many years earlier if there'd been any good info around, vs being recommended to in my 30s when a therapist (for workplace troubles) figured that CBT wouldn't work for me because of the traits I was showing... and it would have been rather helpful and preventative of a lot of troubles too. I even joked about maybe being autistic at one point when I was having a previous bad spot, even though most of the things I was "recognising" were more signs of depression... The ADHD vs Autism one, still struggling with getting an assessor who actually recognises that duality. As well as bilateral impostor syndrome quite a lot. As well as gender issues etc that are associated with them. Agree on the lost generation thing too. I feel like the two of you are probably about my age, and there wasn't any mention of any of these things other than maybe as jokes or disability stereotypes until I was maybe in my mid 20s, and the most anyone knew about really was a somewhat poor grasp of dyslexia. The only thing that was seen was early giftedness whose effect wore off quite quickly during my teens as all the challenges of dealing with more complex and less forgiving parts of life kicked in. Even at university there wasn't really any awareness or support... I was just undisciplined or not trying hard enough or whatever. Suggestions only started being made at that mid-20s point and those still weren't accurate (where a tutor figured I was dyslexic instead, seeing that I was staying over lunch / after hours in classrooms or the library to work on things but still having trouble with deadlines and quality of work, but not seeming dull when talking to her), though they kind of helped in some ways. It took until hitting crisis point for the autism to be identified, and the ADHD only came into the picture when I researched the things I had trouble with that didn't seem to make sense in the context of that diagnosis (and didn't get addressed in my report even though I would have mentioned it)... which is now being hard to get others to believe still. And I figure that there's a lot of people in my remaining friends group who are likely in one, other, or both camps, or otherwise neurodivergent, with or without realising (or maybe diagnosed but not wanting to divulge, much as I haven't). The more I look, the more signs I pick up on. Though they generally seem to be doing better so if it is both then maybe they've actually got diagnosis and suitable prescriptions or therapy referrals, or just have better support networks. Mine pretty much starts and ends at a couple of different random online forums and that's it. And now I need to go back and rewind the video by five minutes because I think I may have tuned out what was being said whilst typing ... whoops.

@StarShade-l7q Месяц назад

I like the Rage Against the Machine version "What better place than here What better time than now All hell can't stop me now" Very happy that I found both of your channels. The phrase I used in therapy was "relevatory"

@stacymurray4724 9 месяцев назад

Gosh I'm grateful I found you

@skelenigma 10 месяцев назад

Wow! Our shared experiences and thoughts really help me not feel alone in the world 🥲

@MarkLietzau 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for this. You guys both mentioned a syndrome early in the video but for some reason I couldn't make out the word. One of you related it to having something to do with late diagnosis and living life undiagnosed maybe. Anyway, I'm still undiagnosed, but this makes more and more sense to me and I think I also share the ADHD.

@haraluppnow3534 9 месяцев назад

“Pretty Privilege” - it’s actually an obstacle to getting support when you’re autistic.

@Snorlax220 4 месяца назад

A double-edged sword. Not a solely difficult situation as many wish to portray 😂. “It’s hard when you’re sooooo pretty like myself! I need EXTRA consideration and care!!”

@marthamurphy7940 9 месяцев назад

Orion, in my opinion, the fact that you are concerned about being a good husband instead of just assuming, as many men do, that you're God's gift to women, is one of the things that makes you a good husband. (When my daughter was in college, 25 years ago, she commented that one of her friends said he thought he was a lesbian in a man's body. She asked, "What would you call that?" and my friend quipped, "God's gift to women.")

@erikavaleries 9 месяцев назад

TRUTH!!

@Tmhjr_Baskar 10 месяцев назад

... Gonna have plenty of vids to watch once this migraine passes by...**sigh**

@staceyruwoldt9158 9 месяцев назад

I love you Jenn thanks for your very raw and open honesty I appreciate you too 🥰💗 Orion am just wondering what do Autistic eyes look like? Am just really curious as a.. Autistic woman as I've never taken a proper look at my eyes before and, I've taken many selfies/ pics of myself as I do written status's to my friends on my Facebook page ☺️😊

@allison3132 8 месяцев назад

Yes! I’m an attractive female with asd and people don’t always think I have autism

@AliceBunny05 7 месяцев назад

I'll check my pretty girl autie card here thank you very much. Though, I wasn't really very pretty until I became an adult, I was also diagnosed as a young adult and really people are often beyond shocked that autism can exist in a pretty woman/girl.

@DwayneMallett-b9r 9 месяцев назад

As she talks 😢 it reminds me of myself so bad...

@tattooedmomma 10 месяцев назад

I don't remember which doctor said it, but they said when you're autistic, you can often tell if someone else is, even if across the room. I agree with the autistic eye look. My daughter and i can both tell by the eyes.

@equitime77 10 месяцев назад

It's also the way they move, mannerisms I think.

@MrDaydreamer1584 9 месяцев назад

How do you tell by the eyes? Just curious.

@tattooedmomma 9 месяцев назад

@@MrDaydreamer1584if you have ever seen a "toe headed" toddler, it's similar to that. But there's no true describing it, we just know when we see them.

@TaylorMcLaren95 8 месяцев назад

watching this video and feeling so "something" that I cant just join the conversation and say how badly I relate. I just want to yell it at the world "this is me, this is me, I figured it out, sombody hear me!"

@AlwaysAloneNeverLonely 8 месяцев назад

Could be a look. 🤷‍♀️ Have you looked into the connection between autism and ehlers danlos which is a connective tissue disorder?

@AlwaysAloneNeverLonely 8 месяцев назад

I should add, I am both.

@badger1296 9 месяцев назад

100% Relatable

@deloriskornya6725 8 месяцев назад

How do you get a diagnosis? This was brilliant! Thank You both so very much.

@mommabahre6017 5 месяцев назад

Looking absolutely normal and masking my social abnormalities with humor, I am absolutely not believed about being neurodivergent. Honestly, even my family and husband hold me accountable in life and expect normal productivity from me. They only really see it when my body breaks down from pushing myself. It will manifest in your health when not accommodated for. Sometimes I just think they all owe me an apology for expecting too much from me.

@remotepinecone 6 месяцев назад

idk hearing "yeah I figured you had it" really suck too though.

@TheVOLTAGEVIDEOS 4 месяца назад

This would be a good podcast.

@rebeccaalvarado2254 Месяц назад

Love it! I'm adhd but have a feeling I also am autistic. Would it be possible to talk more about auDHD and relationships because the talk about relationships as general is horrible like aka if they don't text it x amount of time they aren't into. I have a horrible time texting and I'm just giving a small amount about what the videos are saying

@Jokerwolf666 8 месяцев назад

I was diagnosed with ADHD last year but some close family friends in child care who were around me a lot said they think I am Autistic. The diagnostic test in my province is like a 2k test so I doubt I can ever afford to have the test.

@Ayme1285 9 месяцев назад

I dont care what people think or say anymore I'm normal to whomever in my own way

@Peter_S_ 10 месяцев назад

I know there are certain looks which seem to tell me somebody may be on the spectrum, but of course it's not a given. Scanning a room of PhD candidates yields these looks in a far higher proportion that you find at the market.

@vynedvyne59 2 месяца назад

❤MISUNDERSTOOD ❤😊

@Katie-Lou039 2 месяца назад

Aghhh my diagnosis is in 8 minutes time xx

@kitty_ab 10 месяцев назад

Orion, I wonder how many neurodivergent folks (or what percentage) also deals with gender dysphoria? My 18 yr old has been dx'd with ADHD/Autism and does not feel comfortable in their own body. They are pretty sure they also have gender dysphoria.

@Catlily5 9 месяцев назад

More autistic people have issues with their gender but I don't know the percentage.

@highlandermccloud3594 7 месяцев назад

I'm glad you put Jen up. I've been watching The Autism vids and I'm Autistic for sure, however I was actually diagnosed as a child with ADHD. Self diagnosed Autism. Like Jen Some traits I have can either mask or take over traits of the other. I'm on a DSP for other physical and mental reasons so I cannot afford to get a professional diagnosis of Autism money wise that is. I have a serious question maybe members of the community can help me with. Is this just a me problem or is it part of my autism/ADHD? So I'm a very emotional person. I have noticed I cry in shows when others don't, I know we feel more then neurotypical people in that way, however I don't ever feel one emotion and it's foreign to me "Happiness" This is the only emotion I don't feel or really understand. I have seen examples of it in stuff I watch on t.v. but have never experienced it. I remember when I was 5 or 6, my parents gave me a birthday party. I sat there on the outside confused at what I was seeing. The other kids were playing and enjoying themselves and were "Happy" I felt like I did not belong. I have never felt like I belong anywhere. I even came to realise I don't live life, I just exist. I feel like there is something really wrong with me and that I'm completely broken. Not just because of that but other things too. I was talking to a social worker and I told her I can't wait for this all to be over. I'm a believer in Christ btw, so for me, believing in the Word. I believe when I am with the Lord it will be the only time I will know happiness what it is and what it feel like. So am I a seriously broken man that I don't feel that emotion? The lyics to this song best describe the way I feel... Now I see the times, they change Leaving doesn't seem so strange I am hoping I can find Where to leave my hurt behind All this shit I seem to take All alone I seem to break I have lived the best I can Does this make me not a man?

@stephenie44 9 месяцев назад

MISUNDERSTOOD Ugh yes, it is so frustrating feeling like you can never be clear enough to really be understood by other people.

@lordconnop 7 месяцев назад

I always look at the space between peoples eyes or at their mouths instead of their eyes.... do you think they can tell im doing that? ugh.

@jascha8681 6 месяцев назад

I look on their eyebrows or eyelids

@jojozepofthejungle2655 2 месяца назад

ADHD doesn't have a "look" but autism can. We have larger foreheads and as you can see this lovely lady has a larger cranial head topper, like those parakian skulls but not to that extent. I would guess we come from the lineage of the gods. As I always say, autism is called the Shamans disease. We led people from starvation because we have a knowledge planted in us and the gift of sight.

@JamesBakerAdventurer 9 месяцев назад

Autistic look? I look at the world through Autistic eyes, is that what that means rather than appearing autistic?

@ravenspace 9 месяцев назад

i've got both diagnoses but STILL feel like im getting life wrng. ive never had a business or driven a car and i dont have a partner. i i only got diagnosed at 50yrs. i'm screwed, you people with partners and the ability to make a channel are fkin SOOO much better off than i am. People in my family still think i'm just lazy.

@ravenspace 9 месяцев назад

i'm still a loser born to suffer i still feel like i'm wishing i could not wake up and i have to keep on cos i have a 12 yr old daughter. i'm fucked.

@ravenspace 9 месяцев назад

if there is no supportive partner or family then diagnosis makes little difference. 50 years of hating myself is impossible to overcome alone, i have no evidence that i'm a good person, i have struggles and failures, how do i convince myself otherwise, i cant set up routines..

@jsonbourne9799 9 месяцев назад

You're not lazy. They just don't understand how much more difficult it is for you.

@ravenspace 9 месяцев назад

@@jsonbourne9799 thank you and i am so short on encouragement that this sort of validation and understanding from a person on the net does make a real difference, really do appreciate it.

@turtleanton6539 8 месяцев назад

Keep struggling fellow struggler ! I wish you and yoyr dayghtet the best

@ryanmcquitty5604 9 месяцев назад

Am I the only person thinking that calling her beautiful is inappropriate for a married man? 😮

@fideovilm8448 9 месяцев назад

I don't know about the married man bit but it's definitely inappropriate to comment on a woman's looks like that when she's here to tell us about her brain. I would absolutely hate it and it would really put me off my stride for the rest of the interview ☹

@NeurodiverJENNt 9 месяцев назад

Here's my thoughts on that. A, as autistic adults we often get told off for just being honest whether that's kind or rude to someone. B, it is like the elephant in the room that he bravely addressed that I for one was thankful to be able to respond to right off the bat. This gave me the opportunity to hedge against people who may not hear my story because they think "She can't be autistic because she doesn't look autistic" This allows more females who may not fit the stereotype to speak up because we come in all shapes and sizes. I understand what you are saying and where your heart is, truly I do. Personally I would not mind my own husband saying another woman is beautiful because that's superficial and something I can personally observe too. It would be actions beyond that that would be inappropriate. I hope this is will received because truly, while unexpected as Orion pointed out it gave an opportunity to discuss something really important that keeps a lot of girls from speaking up.

@ryanmcquitty5604 9 месяцев назад

@@fideovilm8448 I agree, looks shouldn’t be a factor here. If someone comments on my appearance personally, it makes me uncomfortable and I get even more awkward. I don’t think anyone would dismiss her as being autistic, simply because of how she looks.

@Catlily5 9 месяцев назад

@@ryanmcquitty5604 I thought it was kinda weird he commented. But she herself said that people have dismissed her for not looking autistic.

@flowntheloop 9 месяцев назад

@@NeurodiverJENNt I agree that it led to an important conversation, but as someone with body dysmorphia (and a weird relationship with my body in general) it makes me cringe for that to be the first question asked. I tend to shut down if anything about my appearance is pointed out, so it was a relief to see you respond so well! Of course this is a personal preference; it just puts an unwanted spotlight on me that can put me in a very weird headspace.

@SingerSofiaBrook 10 месяцев назад

First

@Katie-Lou039 2 месяца назад

2 mins to diagnosis....

@Allthepills 10 месяцев назад

It's hard to concentrate on the content because of how hot she is! From one autistic to another - don't tell your wife you find her attractive... I've learned the hard way woman don't like hearing that, even though you won't cheat and are just being honest

@tims9434 10 месяцев назад

This comment is very distasteful

@Allthepills 10 месяцев назад

@@tims9434 why

@nighthawk244 10 месяцев назад

@@Allthepillscalling someone "hot" is considered rude if you don't know them. Calling them something more flowery like "beautiful" or "gorgeous" is more acceptable in this situation

@mybabyloveshummus 3 месяца назад

Cringe

@AdiP1983 10 месяцев назад

I didn't know her. It is very comforting to hear another woman talking about life as a late-diagnosed autistic-adhd woman. Thank you both very much.

@Dancestar1981 10 месяцев назад

Me too we aren’t as rare as many think once we connect online

@hrdcpy 2 месяца назад

@@AdiP1983 @Proudly Autistic is a favorite of mine. ✌️

@cindianajones9049 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for a great interview … really truly great. I am a very late diagnosed ADHD/autistic woman at 74 years old. I can only imagine how differently my life could’ve played out with this knowledge at a younger age. The younger the better , and thankfully medical science is beginning to see what this really is. This was particularly resonant because I feel very similar to Jenn. On the outside I might look like I function well enough and on the inside I’m normally terrified , clueless and sure that I’ve messed up again. Or I see that I’ve been misunderstood, and trying to correct the misunderstanding, only makes it worse! It’s such a relief to know why I am like I am. And that doesn’t mean that I’m a bad person, or that I don’t try , or that I’m too sensitive or that I don’t care. I care. Thank you again for being bold and brave and sharing your stories. They make a huge difference in our lives.

@tims9434 10 месяцев назад

It's never too late to get the diagnosis we need ❤

@lionunderthestars7019 9 месяцев назад

I was diagnosed with ADHD at age 45. I self- diagnosed as also autistic this year, just before I turned 71. The first diagnosis was helpful, but I always knew there was more. Watching channels like Jenn's and many others on youtube, especially women with both diagnoses, has given me a lot more compassion for myself. I have to admit I am happier now that I am retired. Just less to deal with. I have fun with my interests every day. My parents and brothers passed away years ago. I wish they could have felt this greater compassion for themselves before they died. Even when I was much younger I felt medical science was way behind. My thanks go mainly to the autistic community.

@Autisticelder 9 месяцев назад

@cindianajones9049 I was diagnosed as autistic level 2 in November last year at the age of 64. I am 65 now. Its bitter sweet as while I would have liked to know much earlier, growing up in the sixties I would have most likely been cast aside. I am now mostly unmasked and was when I had my autism assessment a year after self diagnosing as Autistic at 63. I m now retired on disability and lead a reclusive life with my spouse.

@cindianajones9049 9 месяцев назад

@@Autisticelder ❣

@1golux 2 месяца назад

@lionunderthestars7019 ❤ I'm 51 and I'm self diagnosed autistic over the last few years.

@NeurodiverJENNt 9 месяцев назад

Its finally here!!! You know, I think this is one of my favorite videos of yours. JK but seriously, thank you again SO MUCH Orion for having me on. Just so everyone knows, the chatter I had with him outside this video proved to me what a kind, compassionate, and genuine guy he really is behind the scenes. Yeah he puts on a persona for RU-vid that's fun to watch but he also legitimately cares about helping people in this community for real for real. It's fun to watch that passion come out in first pounding on your desk but it's because you ACTUALLY give a crap... Unlike all the bureaucratic politicians that pretend to give a crap. Looking forward to future collabs from you and other voices in the community!

@orionkelly 9 месяцев назад

You’re a star Jenn! Wait is that offensive? Too far? Thank you so much for your honesty and vulnerability.

@NeurodiverJENNt 9 месяцев назад

@@orionkelly totally offensive. I'm offended. ::clutches pearls::

@kathryncollins8708 9 месяцев назад

I'm really picky when it comes to Autistic creators. I just subbed to you. You remind me so much of me. I'm in the UK waiting to be put on a waiting list. I'm 59

@NeurodiverJENNt 9 месяцев назад

@@kathryncollins8708 Yay! Thank you so much for joining my community too 😍

@brian1204 9 месяцев назад

@@NeurodiverJENNt i also first realized my autism after having my older son diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome, and noticed how much more I identified with his behavior than my younger son, who while he also has ADD is not autistic. Although it was thirty+ years later before seriously looking at my own struggles and actually being diagnosed this past summer at age 66 as having both Autism and ADHD, twice gifted. It does help my self image knowing this is who I am although I am still struggling with how to be who I am while still being relatable with the neurotypical people in my life, including my wife.

@marywinter8216 9 месяцев назад

Yours is not the only lost generation. My sons are your age, approximately, and my little granddaughter is autistic, level 3. Nonverbal until age 5. In learning about her, I’ve discovered my own autism… And that of my sons. Whenever I have discussed seeking a medical diagnosis, people wonder why I would even bother in my 60s. I’m a retired professional, and they don’t see the rest. But having that diagnosis will explain so very much about the past 60 years of my life… Thank you both for your openness and input. I’m a new subscriber to each of your channels.

@user-eg8ht4im6x 9 месяцев назад

Yes it’s helps to get Diagnosed at any age, I was diagnosed at 56. It helped explain my life.

@wyckedbear5598 9 месяцев назад

@@user-eg8ht4im6x I'm that age and was quite literally just formally diagnosed last week after months of assessments and meetings with a psychologist who specializes in diagnosing autistic adults. I'm facing a lot of what if's, grief, and also a lot of relief finally understanding now who I am and have always been.

@amandamandamands 9 месяцев назад

Realistically the lost generation is anyone who is older than 30 (and even then you are still finding people who are getting diagnosed in their 20's) as it is only since the current DSM came out in 2013 that there started being a current understanding on what autism actually is and even with that it is still written how it typically presents in white boys so need to find someone who knows how autism typically presents in females and POC.

@rustung1638 9 месяцев назад

I got my diagnosis yesterday, after a 6+ hour interview at age 38. The woman conducting the interview was surprised when she "scored" the encounter and discovered I was autistic, and said I am "on the cusp" of it. That I was an extremely high functioning autistic person. That my ability to articulate my feelings enhanced her understanding of the ASD experience. Meanwhile, I would probably be homeless if not for a family member that allows me to live in her house. Have never been able to rent an apartment or buy a car by myself. Struggle with mundane things like cashing a check at the bank and couldn't fill out unemployment cause the paperwork confounded me. I owe a lot to the content creators that put this information out there.

@Catlily5 9 месяцев назад

Take her extremely high functioning label with a grain of salt.

@Tilly850 9 месяцев назад

I am feeling a little weird saying this, but as an ancient-self-diagnosed autistic woman I am glad to see young people being diagnosed, even if it is "late". I want to find more of us white haired, past menopause women. I know, my age group isn't into making content since we literally grew up prior to actual PCs. I do see many similarities and these videos are so helpful. I have realized that I am both autistic and have ADHD. It all fits. The puzzle is the same analogy that I used when I learned these things. There were differences with each, and they are like inner conflicting conditions where ADHD will modify or cover up some autistic traits. Thanks Orion and Jenn. PS...if you are "lost" then where does that leave me? Just asking...

@Autisticelder 9 месяцев назад

@CHEISTEN13 Where about but not doing video content. I am a silver haired 65 year old autistic person. I don't do video but have a website where I write about discovering autism and being ourselves among other things. I spent 20 years of my working life mentoring others and realised most of them were neurodivergent.

@Runestone1 9 месяцев назад

Same here, but with formal diagnosis. Am 68, another 'Logician,' and soooo acculturated to life behind a mask, alienated, not able to locate peers of my age. I think we just float around hoping to ride the more knowledgeable coattails of Gen X & Millenials. I'm thinking about starting a Meetup group. It's so good to hear Orion & Jenn's experiences.

@Tilly850 9 месяцев назад

@@Autisticelder Awesome!

@turtleanton6539 8 месяцев назад

I think she is just blonde ?

@sayusayme7729 8 месяцев назад

Same, thanks for the words of wisdom. 🤍 white haired adhd/ASD too at 64 this Aug. great post. Miracle workers of a different kind .

@Melissa.Garrett 9 месяцев назад

That first question really hit me. I know exactly how Jenn feels, being disbelieved because she has a certain look (coloured hair, makeup, feminine clothing choices, just generally being pretty). Some people have this idea that Autism has a visible set of characteristics, in the same way that something like Down Syndrome does, and refuse to believe that young, attractive women (or attractive anyone, for that matter) could possibly be Autistic. Thank you so much for addressing this!

@PsychActually 9 месяцев назад

Same!!!! When she said that it made me want to cry. So many things have masked my neurodivergence and difficulties. Being “pretty” isn’t one I’d heard before, but I’ve definitely been disbelieved before or just treated like I don’t deserve any understanding or compassion because of how I look. I once sat in a group therapy session where therapist used me as an example to the other people in the group, I think, because of my appearance. She just said “see, look, even SHE is here and SHE feels depressed like the rest of you.” I just sat there awkwardly thinking wtf is that supposed to mean?? Why would she profile me and use me as an object lesson like that. SMH. It was my first - and last - time there. 😒

@Melissa.Garrett 9 месяцев назад

@@PsychActually I’m so sorry to hear that. No-one should be singled out like that and made assumptions about, but especially not in a therapy group!

@AliceBunny05 7 месяцев назад

yeah this is definitely a misconception tons of people have. if you go online and see any conventionally attractive young woman (especially if she's feminine or hyperfeminine) try to speak about having autism, I always notice a large spike in people saying she can't have autism. I'm the same way, but really it just gets a bit comical to me after time has passed because one of my major special interests is fashion, including several hyperfeminine alternative fashion styles. Almost everything related to beauty, I've developed a special interest for and researched it into what would be ad nauseum for anyone else. I think I also have a tendency to make people uncomfortable because while I do come across a bit weird, I've been told it's often in a whimsical way which leads me to not be perceived as weird in an "off putting" manner. As a result of this, I still often get neurotypical or allistic people who are attracted to me and seem to become uncomfortable upon finding out I'm autistic. Like they could see I had this odd whimsy about me but, it's unacceptable in their head that I could be "that far from normal" but also attractive to them. I've never been quite sure how to feel about it really.

@luciskies Месяц назад

@@PsychActually something similar happened to me when I was 23 and terribly depressed. I admitted myself to the local hospital due to some scary/dark thoughts and the ER nurse doing my intake assessment told me, “we’ll get you sorted out, you’re too pretty to be depressed.” It made me feel even guiltier for being so “broken.”

@LillianMFox 9 месяцев назад

Thank you. So many people say I don't look autistic. It's very frustrating. I get it from everyone even my family... It hurts so much.

@turtleanton6539 8 месяцев назад

Indeed.

@Jenna.g.85 10 месяцев назад

Well done Jenn and Orion. Thanks for being real and accepting

@jamesrigby2271 9 месяцев назад

Orion - can you do a video on late diagnosis vs too late diagnosis please. There seems to be a big gap between generations on this issue with Autism attitudes ranging from being a badge of honour through to a life lost. Understand that positivity is key to videos but there is a lot of damage and anger around late and certainly too late diagnosis - cheers

@Tilly850 9 месяцев назад

In a way there is no such thing as too late but at 65 I can see what you are saying. For us we can't redo so many things and knowing this would have made a real difference in the way I approached life. I wouldn't say it's too late, but there are a lot of us who are in our 60s and 70s for who the support is too late, and we struggled for so long that if we are still alive we are now invisible. People don't value our experiences because we don't know how to create "content". We lived our whole lives this way...for me going from one tragic relationship to another and trying so hard to be "normal". I do wish we had something...just a little respect for still existing when the odds are against us I suppose.

@Runestone1 8 месяцев назад

I second this request. At 69, I cannot be open about my diagnosis with my age peers due to the stigma around autism that we grew up with. I can't tell elder family members, lest I get sidelined and treated like an incompetent. And I dare not tell one friend with an authoritarian streak lest I get bullied. The biggest fear I have around this late diagnosis is losing agency. A discussion of coping strategies for VERY late diagnosis people would be wonderful.

@gb2309 19 дней назад

@@Runestone1 I too would appreciate a video on the much older woman. Yesterday at 72yrs it was confirmed I am autistic with adhd, I'm still in shock but if I'm honest not surprised and realise I need time to process.

@Runestone1 18 дней назад

@@gb2309 A year later and I'm still processing. What would be extraordinarily useful is a PEER GROUP of agemates to talk it through with. The life experiences of young adults on the spectrum is quite different to my own, especially the sense of normality of Autism. When I was a kid, I visited the State facility where people with autism were kept away from society. While I'm glad younger generations have greater acceptance, I can't really relate to the ease they have around that dx. Being an older Autist comes with scars, I guess.

@Heather-nq4rv 9 месяцев назад

I also have ADHD and autism, so this was very interesting and very relatable! 👍😄

@juleyray1975 10 месяцев назад

My mom sure didn't mind asking me if i were retarded 😂 but it was a different time and it was bad to be labeled with an disease when young because you would not be covered by insurance when an adult.

@nanaisloved2736 10 месяцев назад

It's so sad that people really think autism has a certain look, I also have issues because I learned how to dress according to society's standards and style or put on makeup in a certain way and people say "well you don't LOOK autistic" which makes it even harder to get a diagnosis (I have been searching for half a year and no therapist seems to diagnose autism😢)

@Catlily5 9 месяцев назад

Therapists can't diagnose autism in many countries. You probably need to find a psychologist.

@nanaisloved2736 9 месяцев назад

@@Catlily5 already tried, they all either don't diagnose autism anymore or don't pick up the phone

@Catlily5 9 месяцев назад

@@nanaisloved2736 It can definitely be difficult.

@ooulalah4333 8 месяцев назад

@@Catlily5Try to find a psychiatrist for diag. They're like a psychologist but are medical doctors.

@Catlily5 8 месяцев назад

@@ooulalah4333 I am already diagnosed. I think you meant this information for nanaisloved.

@optimistikme 8 месяцев назад

Listening to Jenn talk was viscerally painful because it was so utterly validating. A lot of what she said I can say about myself, especially between 25:20 and 27:26, (except I'm weirdly non-emotional and overly emotional all at the same.). I felt so lost and wounded until I started listening to autistic women talk about their experiences. I still feel kinda lost, but at least I'm starting to find the light again.

@allison3132 8 месяцев назад

“ your eyes look like you should be in frozen the movie” OMG you’re hilarious

@SingerSofiaBrook 10 месяцев назад

… wow I am first, guess I’ll take this opportunity to say I really appreciate your videos and they educate a lot of people, like me. 😊

@orionkelly 10 месяцев назад

I really appreciate that.

@SingerSofiaBrook 10 месяцев назад

@@orionkelly Thank you! :)

@DataRae-AIEngineer 9 месяцев назад

I have seen videos from Paige Layle also talking about how she isn't taken seriously because she doesn't "look" autistic AKA she's a beautiful white woman. I get the "you don't look autistic" bit sometimes too but am not as pretty as these women though. lol. Thank you for putting Jenn on your channel so I can subscribe to another relatable person.

@AliceBunny05 7 месяцев назад

Im not quitee as beautiful as paige layle, but I am considered pretty in my adult life and I also put a lot of effort into my appearance, almost all aspects of beauty have been captured as a special interest at some point in my life. People become even more resistant or uncomfortable accepting you're autistic if they think you're attractive.

@SweetiePieTweety 10 месяцев назад

A new person just entered my life! Her story is my story. Wonderful to meet you Jenn. Thanks for sharing❤ I will hop on over and binge your channel for as long as it takes to binge it all. Deep dive adrenaline thrill chills 😂

@kdcraft89 9 месяцев назад

You are fortunate that your children were diagnosed as children when you have a say in getting them diagnosed. I've told one of my middle aged children that I'm autistic and he said "no, you're not." One of my wishes was that he would see this and get dx'd as he had been told as a child he had adhd by the pediatrician and has assumed that all his life. He's utterly resistant to the idea of my autism and gaslights me about it. It's hard to see your child's life, knowing it would help him understand who he is. Also, he sees me as weird, not autistic. I was dx'd with adhd (non attentive type) 25 years ago. He thought I was making that up, and that came out when I told him I'm autistic. Yet he's fine with his own diagnosis of adhd. Lost generations. As were my parents and grandparents, I can see now. When I told my sister I'm autistic and pointed out our father's autistic characteristics, she blew up. Yet she has struggled all her life, no job, getting by with family help, etc. I thought she might see herself when I told her about my autism. Hard no from her. Lost generations. I grieve this all the time. My grown grandchildren may have a chance. At some point I'll tell them I'm autistic and maybe they will figure it out.

@NeurodiverJENNt 9 месяцев назад

Oh goodness I had a similar story. Tried to tell my brother our father was autistic. Hence the reason he struggled with eye contact, had very few friends, got irritated at noises, etc... and my brother said all the things "But he held a job" "We're all a little bit autistic" "What does it matter now" "He's not like my friends autistic son" I was basically just trying to ease into telling him about me and after that I didn't even dare try to tell him about my own diagnosis. I love my brother very much He just hasn't had an opportunity to learn about these things. I also tried to talk to my father about that before he passed away. I wish he could have known why he struggled his whole life. But, he didn't want to entertain the idea. His generation didn't really know about Autism.

@jsonbourne9799 9 месяцев назад

These stories are so sad 😥. I showed my diagnostic report to my brother and he said: - Did you pay for this bollocks? - What a load of shīt - Do you really think that you're mentally ill? - I'm going to pretend I didn't see that I think I got my autism from my mum and my ADHD from my dad, but now I wonder if I will ever be able to talk to either of them about it.

@quekbridget5988 7 месяцев назад

@@jsonbourne9799 i am so sorry my lord.

@jsonbourne9799 6 месяцев назад

@@quekbridget5988 It's OK, I was more surprised and dumbfounded at the time. It is a bit sad that I can't talk to him about it when we talk, but I can talk about it with my chosen family, so it's OK.

@feelmajs 10 месяцев назад

The one chapter "misunderstood" fits perfectly

@theladyoftheforest6287 10 месяцев назад

I resonated completely with your experience and the duality of the two balancing together

@KarenCro 10 месяцев назад

I thoroughly enjoyed this video, what a lovely person Jen is. She was absolutely bang on with her experience as far as im concerned. The vulnerability she showed was especially special, it's not easy to do. Excellent video 🎉 Thank you 🙂

@andreawylie1527 9 месяцев назад

When she talks about her son being diagnosed, and her reaction, I am starting to think my fourth grade teacher may have been trying to tell my parents that I am autistic/hdhd, which I am, not "the r word" my parents use when they talk about that incident... They still remember it as her saying I was mentally deficient, when I don't think she may have thought that at all. She was still mean as hell to me tho.

@Asheface11 9 месяцев назад

I’ve known Jenn for years and became really really close friends during the pandemic. She’s an amazing person that actually I came to know as more beautiful inside than out (I know it doesn’t seem possible, but it’s true). I’m really happy that she found herself in her diagnosis and everyone should definitely check out her channel! Thank you for having her on your channel Orion!

@turtleanton6539 8 месяцев назад

😊😊😊😮

@pipwhitefeather5768 10 месяцев назад

Great to meet you Jen. I've subscribed to your channel. I believe I have AuDHD. I'm 52 yr old woman. I agree that diagnosis is extremely important. I felt that I was a 'broken' person, lazy fearful, fussy etc. My siblings think my great Aunt spoiled me. I've never married but I have 2 beautiful daughters that have kept me bothering with this mortal coil. Realising I have neurological differences has improved my mental health no end, because now I'm not beating myself up about why I can't do this or that, when I'm supposed to want to, or am expected to, or it's easy for other folks but I can't cope etc. It is such a relief. I have permission to be myself. I have been referred for assessment, but the NHS in the UK is moving at a slow crawl so who knows how long that will take. Thank you Orion :)

@tims9434 10 месяцев назад

I went through it, get on with your life in the mean time. I didn't self-diagnose so I was happy to wait. I only went through the process because other people and charities suggested I did. I'm glad I had the assessment and had assessment for ADHD at the same time. I take the ADHD medication now, that's the big life changer for me.

@teeade 9 месяцев назад

I've always been way less expressive than others when it comes emotions. It didn't occur to me that this is something that many neurodivergent people relate to; but it makes sense to me, now that it was brought up. I'm happy a neurodivergent person recommended me to you both today. I'm looking forward to raise my level of understanding, acceptance, and appreciation of the autistic community with the help of you lot (including those underneath these videos)! ✨️