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HighAnders I think the proper ending would have been his bomb succeeding but he still dies cause i think in the end he would want to. I mean the fact they set him up to be so smart really is kinda broken when they manage to remove the bomb and put it in his cell so easily i mean you would think he would have some sort of safety for it if it was moved.
+HighAnders Agree, creators ware pussies for not going thought with their original plans. Some people may whine, but I think that similarly to The boondock saints, most people would have loved it.
+212sportsman1 Not to mention, he corrected the problem that was Foxx's character. Made him realize that he was wrong for cutting the deal and reminding him what the justice system is supposed to be about.
***** I agree with him that the system is broken to all hell. His methods are just as bad as the criminals he hates, but the idea behind them is noble. Basically, he looked into the abyss and blinked.
TimedRevolver No matter what system of government we have there are going to be people that find ways to abuse it. The checks and balances that we have seem better than anything anyone else is proposing. Unless you have a better idea.
***** They are basically the same person. By that I mean they are both high end military trained (Punisher was a NAVY seal - while this guy was a military tactician). They both have experience with military hardware, weaponry, body armor, explosives, and are anti-heros that realize the justice system is a piece of shit in this country...oh, and they both lost their loved ones (families) due to horrible crimes by sociopaths.
+TheMovieDoctorful Thing is though the Punisher killed bad people. Clyde killed people who he thought failed were guilty simply to make a point. While we can sympathize with him if you look at it with perspective killing the people he killed without darby was really pointless and unnecessary.
naved0589 actually they didn't outsmarted him, someone who worked with him fucked him up and for obvious reasons he didn't know about it so because of his condition of being isolated.
***** Nah, we wanted him to win. It was the only logical ending. We didn't care if he survived because he didn't care, either, but they should have fulfilled his promise of the end being 'biblical'.
Can't prove nodding your head on tape, and nodding is a tick some people have when acknowledging they heard the speaker. As for saying yes, he followed it up immediately with his responses.
@@mini_pypermaru They had video of clyde as well though, and a prosecutor would likely say something to the effect of "Let the record show that the defendant nodded." if it were a real case, but that's hollywood for you.
It's not that the law cna be stupid, it's the fact that there's too much "grey zones" where people exploits them. Lawyers and judges, most of them, think only like a machine, a machine made only of rules that is a Law system. And like any machines, it can be hacked. That's why a real law use logic and rules of a civilised nation. Not just the rules that are so easy to play with. And that's how alot of people Win and walk freely. Which really pisses me off day by day...
I think what I like best about this scene, is that Butler looks so docile and fragile when he is being questioned. Then he just changes face, and its like, sit down, because shit's about to get real....
😄 Spot on. One thing though Fox's character didn't shit himself when he was told to cancel his 1230 lunch with the judge. I know I would've I'd be shouting at him in a low gruff voice and slamming his head against the table "WHERE IS SHE" oh wait , wrong movie.
This. Brilliant character. Best Gerard Butler movie character to date. “…. So I changed it to something a little more….Deliberate.”☠️💉 lol Or when he bludgeons his cellmate with the steak bone, and casually lays in his cot rests his hands behind his head covered in blood and goes, “Warden I need a shower.”
But that's the thing - no one is the protagonist in this movie. Its very ambivalence, the fact that the movie presents a situation and allows you, the viewer, to decide where the lines should be drawn is what makes the movie so brilliant. It's profoundly cerebral.
***** Not at all. But his abhorrence for the judiciary system that wronged him in such a life-altering way is a far cry from incomprehensible, if you ask me. The death of the innocent people were deaths he felt needed to occur in order to achieve his ultimate goal of bringing down the "diseased, corrupt temple" of the system. Though, I'd say the only person he killed that didn't deserve to die was Sarah, Jamie Foxx's blonde assistant.
***** Of course his actions weren't justified. But he did have his reasons for committing them, as I stated in my previous comment. As for causing trauma to Nick's wife and kids, I doubt he intended for them to see the video he sent to Nick's home.
@@jalenr.6542 wanna see what you'll do when your wife and daughter were taken from you by 2 scum of the earth and then get kicked in the teeth by the 'justice' system that lets the killer 100% off the hook to save its own face. You'll have nothing left to live for except getting your own justice. Granted, he goes overboard, but at every turn he gives the prosecutor the chance to do the right thing and again and again he doesn't
"It's not what you know, it's about what you can prove in court." Best advice I've heard in a while. I mean, that makes a lot of sense though I suppose Clyde was commenting on how most justice systems work (and exposing a loophole)
Not onnly that but if you would watch the actual movie you would know its a reapeated quote that exact thing Jamie foxx said to Gerard Butler when he made a deal with the killer of his wife and daughter to get a death penalty to his crime assistant (but the guy that got away with a few years sentance on that deal was the one who decided to kill them ) during the bulgrary that they did. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-73ihGNZMjOU.html here you got it.
The state has killed innocents in the past. That's enough evidence I need to take Clyde's words to heart. "The state calls its own violence law, but that of the individual, crime." - Max Stirner
Marie Philogene Nah. Nick could die but his wife and kid are innocent. I also don’t think Clyde would go through with it. Did he kill people? Yes, but he wasn’t a psycho who craved bloodshed. He was tactical and specific with actual purpose
@@couragew6260 he killed multiple people who didnt have anything to do with his case or the "system". A bunch of lawyers, people who were even on his side like jamie foxx's senior lawyer.
I’m so glad to see I’m not the only one who was so angry Clyde didn’t win at the end lol they really botched that ending for such a great and original screenplay. Intelligent dialogue, good violence, great cast.
Clyde DID win. He taught Nick to never make deals with killers. He proved it when Nick effectively killed Clyde. Clyde himself seemed satisfied with the outcome
@@PrestigeLearning from that angle yes he was satisfied with the work he had done, but he didn’t live happily ever after is what I’m saying. Would have been cooler imo if he pulled off one more brilliant twist and ended up at peace with his families death in a new life somewhere
for those of you who like Butler, the original ending had him escaping, but the producer changed it at the request of Fox who said "I cant let whitey win"
Brass 'n Barrels Firearms Channel Well... shit. That's quite possibly one of the dumbest reasons to alter an ending. An ending which would have made this movie perfect. The ending which was used for the film instead was terrible.
***** The chances of some shitheel city lawyer getting over on some supposed TLA wetworks guy are about the same as God making me Master of the Universe.
***** Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one To forgive your enemies has nothing to do with the punishment rendered upon them. Like I said, the idea that some petty bureaucrat city lawyer(that is what prosecutors are) can outsmart some hard mo-fo that's been laying down the pain on the jihadis in durka-durkastan is fucking laughable. That silly bullshit ruined the entire movie for me.
@Anthony Beatty And that's one of the reasons why I don't like Foxx as an actor. That and his acting feels very boring & monotonous. His portrayal of Django literally sounds and feels just like Nick in this movie.
Wow, I didn't know that about Jamie Foxx. Never watching nor recommending another movie with him in it ever again. What an ego-maniac who ruined what could have been a classic on par with The Usual Suspects.
I disagree. I found a fanmade ending, that consisted of two bombs. That way, he followed his words about "tearing this whole system down over your heads. it's going to be biblical". Referance to Samson, who died while he tore a temple down over himself and his enemies.
Jamie foxx had the ending changed because he didnt want his character to die or be "the bad guy". Basically Gerard butlers character was supposed to kill the judge and survive but foxx was being a bitch about it
Thank you! I loved the not knowing how he was pulling this all off, but then...it's a tunnel? That's it? You mean to tell me nobody's watching one of the most dangerous men in the city 24/7? Pfft.
when the word goes to hell nd the icloud bullshit crashes nd u lose everything on ur stupid laptop, jimmy will still be able to watch Law abiding citizen on DVD, bitch
dawayne15 hmm, I am Jamie Foxx fan but in this movie I'm not with him b'cause he betrayed justice, gerard should suppose to win b'cause he is the victim of selfish American law. Hollywood stops this kind of acts! Always support the right channel.
Clyde did win, he convinced Nick that what he did wasn’t irrational and the final shot of the movie where he’s watching his daughters recital, his face is a blank stare realizing he would have done everything exactly the same which would cause him to never make deals with murderers. This would have an entire effect on the entire law system that justice must be served or else you screw over the wrong people. So therefore Clyde got exactly what he wanted, for people to receive the punishments they deserve not the ones that work best for lawyers.
Not a lot of people hold the sentiment but that seems like the best way to wrap your head around the movies ending. Sure Clyde was on a warpath and he was justified but after his death you really do get the feeling that Nick understood it all.
Can we take a moment to appreciate and analyze gerard and jamie foxs chemistry these two literally made this movie memorable for their relationship in the story
I think Gerard Butler was kind of the anti-hero of this movie.. the dudes wife and child got murdered... and he got stabbed.. and the killers just got a slap on the wrist.. I can see where he is coming from. In this kind of situation, the father should be allowed to do whatever he wants.. when it comes to a man's family, all bets are off.
I love how Nick thought he was in control in the beginning of this scene and then starting at 1:46, Clyde completely flips the script and toys with him.
"Well that's what wrenches are for, dumbass." I'm going to say that to anyone who comments back to me. They have to use their own one liners from this film. Then it makes the fun shared around.
Clyde wasn't meant to die The lawyer was meant to die defusing the bombs that blew up. It was originally written that way. Jamie Foxx had a problem with the "bad guy" getting away and didn't want to be part of that movie, so the ending changed and the movie was shit because of it. This is why I don't watch his movies anymore.
Jason that’s crazy ..I like Jamie fox but..if it was me I would have payed more and seen if Denzel Washington would play the part or even Ryan gosling (fracture)he played a cocky lawyer like this
34Ladarehius A real lawyer could easily show blatant deception and present evidence to prove your trying to circumvent the system and in time prove you did what you're accused of.
This movie had soooooo much potential. He was always one step ahead and "of course" he makes a mistake(Which they said many of times over in the movie, he doesn't make) and he gets busted and killed. I was hoping this would've been another Inside Man(if you haven't seen, it's a must. One of the best plots ever).
+Kritacul But did he make a mistake though? Nick would never have found the bomb without Chester's tip, and who do you think this mysterious Chester who never shows his face is? I may be wrong, but I think Chester is Clyde himself. He wanted to teach Nick to be a better person and at the end, he succeeded. He wanted him to find the bomb and the fact that Clyde smiles when he realises the bomb is under his bed reinforces that.
Lawyer more worried about a conviction rating instead of trying to do the right thing. Pride blinded him and he couldn’t see it or even acknowledge it.
I feel like Nick saying "Bravo" and all that just pissed Clyde off even more. Like "How the fuck are you gonna pretend to approve of what I did? You had the chance to punish him and you let him walk." Clyde actually looks genuinely surprised that Nick would openly say something so offensive and stupid, and try to pass it off as being friendly.
This was actually my favorite part of the movie. The government always blames criminals because they choose to do their crimes; however it's the government that (statistically) fails to rehabilitate them and then lies about it. The DA here chose to serve a corrupt system, and he gets pissed off when he realizes it and blames it on this guy.
Yes it was Pointl. Since Jamie is a big fan of Denzel, he ad lib that from " Training Day " Enjoyed Gerald Butler in this movie. This movie makes you really think about the legal system.
“Well that’s what wrenches are for, dumbass.” This is Gerard Butler’s best role. He somehow manages to slide between a man playing an innocent and impassioned part and a rage-induced, highly lethal pyscho path in an almost bipolar manner.
I realize now that the entire movie, even up to the end, Shelton was testing Nick and his morals. He was seeing how far he could push him with making deals, like asking for a mattress, or dinner and music, even though Nick KNEW Shelton did it. He did that because Nick wouldn't go to trial for the men who murdered his family because he wasn't sure he could win the case. So Shelton dangled the confession in his face to get him to do morally questionable things as opposed to the right thing. And in the end Shelton pushed Nick to do what I think Shelton himself felt was the right thing. That's why when he realizes he's about to be killed with his own bomb, simply sat down and made his peace with it. He got his revenge, and he finally pushed Nick to do the right thing, to not compromise with murderers, to be a better person, a better father, something he could never be again.
Some people never understood the movie: Clyde never want to be a vigilante, or simply revenge; he want to prove that the system has a lot of failures, that things don't go as well as supposed to.
+kev3d what? i really liked Collateral's ending, it made perfect sense and was built up in that movie, unlike this one. What purpose would letting Tom Cruise win serve? He even got the "moral victory" in the end with that subway line.
+DeathtoRaiden1 Cab drivers are not known for their prowess with firearms and close-quarters combat, experienced assassins however, are. As for what purpose would it serve, who cares? It doesn't need to serve any purpose other than to not contradict the internal rules of the movie -and it doesn't mean that Tom Cruise needs to "win" or Foxx to "lose". It just didn't need to be Foxx pulling the trigger. Why not have Foxx use something that he *does* know, like cars, to save the day?
kev3d What are you even talking about? What do you think a handgun is? A spaceship? Do you need a college degree or be a former Navy Seal to know that you point the bit with the whole at something and press in the slim lever thinggie to shoot? They even shot the secene in a way to show it was a lucky shot. Tom Cruise character got too personally involved in the matter and that's what got him killed. He died because he broke his own rules. But he proved his philosophy was right, he died on that train and no one will care, all the things both of them went through that night are lost in the wind, it's like they never happened to the outside world.
+DeathtoRaiden1 RU-vid is filled with inexperienced people firing a gun, and even after they have been prepared, with a round chambered and safety off, they still manage to screw it up spectacularly. Guns are not as easy to handle for the inexperienced as the movies would have you believe -not to mention the added difficulty of having a trained assassin who could (and did) plug a guy from across a busy club floor.
+$3R6!0 Having a "lot to live for" does not make one a better shot. In fact, one who holds life dear may well avoid unnecessary risks, especially one who has had no particular training. The reason Collateral's ending was terrible is because it is a cop out, a cheap way to end the film, a near deus ex machina where, by some miracle, the meek guy who has no combat experience at all is able to take out the calm, cold, experienced killer. Die Hard made sense because John McClane was a trained cop which the bad guys didn't anticipate. Predator makes sense because Dutch was an elite special forces soldier. But Collateral makes no sense because Max was a Taxi driver. It would be like having the ship's engine mechanic, rather than Maverick, fly the fighter and defeat the bad guys in Top Gun.
I love how he was gonna come quietly in return for a decent bed and they said no. Yet they will allow murderers and drug dealers to walk free if they simply snitch on who’s at the top or give them a good lead to that person at the top.
I would’ve loved this movie if they at least had a after credit scene where Jamie Foxx’s character got a note or a letter that said “See you later Nick”
I like when Jamie Fox says bravo, and for a few seconds, Gerard looks up at him like, “Was I wrong about him? Maybe he has changed over the years.” You can tell that did catch him off guard, but he soon realizes that he still believes the system isn’t wrong
He could’ve also been faking his reaction, because the sympathetic gesture was likely just an act to make him more likely to confess (he did hate Darby, but still cared more about his job).
Nick takes a deal with the guy who HE KNEW did the killing, just for the sake of his career. The real murderer of the two goes free while Nick moves up in the world. I think he was the bad guy of this movie, not Clyde
