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Laws Broken: Dark Knight (Can Batman Use Self Defense? How Many People Did the Joker Kill?) 

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This week we’re covering the greatest movie Batman movie ever made -- perhaps the greatest superhero movie of all time: The Dark Knight.
Today we’re answering two different questions. Since we know the Joker is doing all kinds of illegal things I tallied up all the different crimes to determine HOW MANY life sentences. Because there is a lot of murder. For Batman, we answer the question, can he use the self-defense justification to fight crime? Or is Batman just as guilty as the criminals he fights?
Who is legally responsible for all the death and destruction?
Find out today!
Stay until the end when tally up the sentences for both the Joker and Batman.
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Комментарии : 17 тыс.   
@hannahsypniewski7356
@hannahsypniewski7356 4 года назад
Objection: Batman is a billionaire. Hes not going to jail.
@JoelCarli
@JoelCarli 4 года назад
_oh daaaaamn_
@calvincardwell6562
@calvincardwell6562 4 года назад
Hannah Sypniewski hahaha underrated comment
@Whimsy3692
@Whimsy3692 4 года назад
He has to get awful orange skin first...
@joshm.9427
@joshm.9427 4 года назад
@@Whimsy3692 haha, orange man bad
@thomasackerman5399
@thomasackerman5399 4 года назад
@@Whimsy3692 ... or one of the Clintons.
@adamjohnsonstudio7910
@adamjohnsonstudio7910 4 года назад
Guy murders someone Lawyer: "That's murder" Me: "Oh, I see"
@Whisper_292
@Whisper_292 4 года назад
He's counting aloud.
@dearmas9068
@dearmas9068 4 года назад
This would have been a nice opportunity to use editing rather than an explanation. He could have set up a murder-counter graphic that pops up and a little 'ding' sound whenever there was murder. Then just make acknowledging facial expressions at each one, and occasionally expound on specific details. If I were his editor, I would have suggested that.
@duncansiror5033
@duncansiror5033 4 года назад
@@dearmas9068 good idea
@independentthoughtsnotthot9030
@independentthoughtsnotthot9030 4 года назад
@@achillesandhispal4196 😂
@K1NG0FW0LV35
@K1NG0FW0LV35 4 года назад
what? I thought it was vandalism.
@RandyMarsh0301
@RandyMarsh0301 Год назад
Objection: batman is in his home and defending himself and his guest from intruders who have deadly weapons....hes just doing it while he wears his spelunking gear.
@lightinggamer2312
@lightinggamer2312 Год назад
Exactly he basically owns Gotham
@skylar5257
@skylar5257 8 месяцев назад
Also worst come to worst he doesn’t press charges on Batman I guess lol.
@assassindelasaucisse.4039
@assassindelasaucisse.4039 7 месяцев назад
Bruce Wayne's property, not Batman's.
@Profile__1
@Profile__1 4 месяца назад
​@@skylar5257"I'm not gonna press charges against that nutcase. He's way too cool and dangerous anyway."
@thomasfleming8131
@thomasfleming8131 4 месяца назад
Also not technically Loitering in that one scene, right? Since that's Bruce's apartment/penthouse/entire building
@kurochi89
@kurochi89 Год назад
I find it somewhat ironic that the joker can terrorize an entire city for a few weeks, kill dozens of people, ATTEMPT to kill hundreds of people and still get a lighter sentence than Batman simply for one trick of a phone.
@rogerhill1030
@rogerhill1030 Год назад
Well, there is something that Devon glosses over, and that is where the charges are being filed. The computer hacking charges violate federal law, not state law, so the Joker would get more time in NY state. They would likely not be serving time together in Arkham, as Bruce would probably get shipped off to a federal super max prison.
@kuno3336
@kuno3336 10 месяцев назад
In comics, the cops go WAY HARDER when it comes to going after a superhero they think has killed a supervillain than they ever did after that same villain. Every time. That Batman would be guilty of more crimes in his war on crime seems to follow that same theme. The moral of the story, of course, is that superheroes make cops look bad, so they need to be taught a lesson.
@theparadigm8149
@theparadigm8149 7 месяцев назад
@@rogerhill1030 Yes, that’s true! Understanding the difference between federal crimes and state crimes is vital here
@Oznerock
@Oznerock 6 месяцев назад
That's because sentences aren't supposed... to stack like that? Hacking a million phones or half a million is likely to land you the same time - and if you didn't get that much personal info, credit card stuff, and... well didn't use that information to commit crimes you will be hard pressed to find a judge nor jury that will give you a sentence harsher than what you'd have for a single murder charge. Regardless batman just gets a presidential pardon for saving literally millions of lives in the previous movie, and then hundreds upon hundreds more with that phone trick. And then you consider that he was for some reason considering his force lethal - when he was mostly unarmed and in fact had a death toll of Ras Al Ghul (Very justifiable self defense against a terrorist trying and succeding to kill millions if not for batman), Harvey Dent (Very justifiable self defense - literally saving a baby and a man), and... maybe Bane or Talia in the last movie I don't remember but they were in the middle of a terrorist act so again justifiable self-defense. Batman's status as a living weapon as far as martial arts goes means he... can very easily control if he's using lethal force and since no one dies other than these people then that makes that just... Very nonlethal (but still painful) force under every jurisdiction. You can look at one scene and say "NO WAY THAT'S NON-LETHAL" but if you look at 100 and all 100 live... then yeah it's non-lethal and any jury will agree.
@Da1337Man
@Da1337Man 2 месяца назад
@@Oznerock Or the fact that in the Dark Knight Rises, he stops a nuclear bomb from going off in a city of millions. That's the kind of shit that changes civilization itself. I would hope that that warrants having any and all charges dropped against you.
@ImmortalMarshmallow
@ImmortalMarshmallow 4 года назад
Joker: Literally holding a hostage at gunpoint with intentions of throwing her out the window of a building LegalEagle: *yeah ok so here the Batman is loitering*
@nicklord650
@nicklord650 4 года назад
YEAH I CANT GET OVER THAT XD
@jerredbosschieter5717
@jerredbosschieter5717 4 года назад
In this situation and correct me if im wrong i fail to see how batman is wrong to defend the people of the party. Maybe cause he broke the law at the time by kidnapping Dent but they CLEARLY threatened people from the start. surprised you dont have more likes
@ziggyzaggy8840
@ziggyzaggy8840 4 года назад
@@jerredbosschieter5717 If I understand it correctly, civilian's duty is to avoid conflict and notify the police. If a terrorist group is holding people hostage, the last thing the police wants are a bunch of civilians running in guns ablazing. Batman is considered a civilian since vigilante is illegal.
@jerredbosschieter5717
@jerredbosschieter5717 4 года назад
@@ziggyzaggy8840 I don't think it's necessarily against the law to protect someone else though right?
@ziggyzaggy8840
@ziggyzaggy8840 4 года назад
@@jerredbosschieter5717 Yes, as long as you can argue self defence (including self defence for a third party) The issues with Batman arguing self defence with deadly force are 1) The agressor must be an imminent threat and intends to use deadly force. (Possibly arguable but Joker hasn't attacked or killed anyone in the party) 2) Batman is the agressor. (He landed the first blow) 3) In a dangerous situation (multiple armed thugs w hostages), civilians have a duty to withdraw, if they can. So if you see an insane man about to shoot a kid, and you shoot him first, you fullfill all the conditions above. But if you see a guy with a bunch of armed men threatening an old lady and you open fire (or even beat them all up with your fist, lol), then it becomes more difficult to argue.
@CR-cp9po
@CR-cp9po 4 года назад
Objection: This is Gotham. Gotham has about 5 laws
@oldreaddy3341
@oldreaddy3341 3 года назад
1: Don't 2: Annoy 3: Batman 4: Or 5: Else
@SomeRandomPangolin
@SomeRandomPangolin 3 года назад
Actualy one which is Let batman do as he wishes
@DS-tv2fi
@DS-tv2fi 3 года назад
C R When did they get their second?
@viktornapolitano6113
@viktornapolitano6113 3 года назад
Five that are followed. There are others.
@CLBOO6
@CLBOO6 3 года назад
@@oldreaddy3341 lol🤣
@Mrgentlemans_vault
@Mrgentlemans_vault Год назад
Objection: during the scene that the joker drops Rachel Batman is technically in his home so he wouldn’t be loitering and also you could say he’s defending his home from intruders.
@keldzh
@keldzh Год назад
It's his office. I think he owns the building, but I don't know could it be count as home, especially when we know he has a mansion where he sleeps.
@tiffles3890
@tiffles3890 Год назад
That is Bruce Wayne's property. And legally it is not on record that Batman is Bruce Wayne.
@tiffles3890
@tiffles3890 Год назад
@@nohigherbeing If Batman were unmasked and it turned out he was Bruce Wayne, then at least he wouldn't be charged with loitering. Also in this context, we're talking of Batman 's legal liabilities while he's unmasked and the authorities are unaware of his true identity, so your comment is irrelevant.
@MichaelLayneWeston
@MichaelLayneWeston Год назад
​@@keldzh His Mansion was destroyed in the previous movie. It was a penthouse. We see his bedroom there.
@MidwestToku
@MidwestToku Год назад
Let’s just say that Bruce Wayne doesn’t press charges against Batman on that front.
@classact9557
@classact9557 Год назад
Legal Eagle: 60 million years in prison for illegal wiretapping and other computer crimes. NSA: Profusely sweating bullets
@Idk-bs6in
@Idk-bs6in 8 месяцев назад
It's kinda funny how Batman's Legal Sentence is 5 Times longer than The Joker's Sentence Batman's being 60 million years, while The Joker's Sentence is 12 Million Years Yeah...why is the "Good Guy's" Sentence Worse than the "Bad Guy's" Sentence?? This still shocks me
@abdullahnisar2219
@abdullahnisar2219 7 месяцев назад
@@Idk-bs6in Not 12 million, 12,000 which makes it even more insane because its 5,000 times more. But it does make sense. The Joker gets more years per count of murder wheras Batman only gets around 2 years per count of computer trespass, its just that he hacked the entire city's population. If the Joker had murdered the same number of people his sentence would be significantly greater than 60 million.
@hsfhanaa
@hsfhanaa 5 лет назад
"Cute magic trick, still first degree murder." What a sentence
@jlaw131985
@jlaw131985 5 лет назад
The fun bit is that kind of injury is actually pretty survivable.
@clownworldhereticmyron1018
@clownworldhereticmyron1018 4 года назад
@@jlaw131985 yeah, depends on where exactly the pencil went in + luck.
@jameson1239
@jameson1239 4 года назад
Jim Lawrence would you like a pencil jammed all the way onto your eye
@joelrichardson5139
@joelrichardson5139 4 года назад
Jameson Dymond well duh, no one wants that, but you’re more likely to live through it than die from it.
@Adjuni
@Adjuni 4 года назад
And they say lawyers have no sense of humour.
@antona.1327
@antona.1327 4 года назад
Legal system: Joker, you're going to jail. Batman: That's right, Joker! You will pay for your crimes. Justice prevails. Legal system: You're going to jail too, Batman. *Batman magically vanishes from the scene*
@godzillavkk
@godzillavkk 4 года назад
That's actually quite common in the comics.
@zombified_pariah7720
@zombified_pariah7720 4 года назад
Batman: *AIGHT IMMA HEAD OUT*
@theprogressiveblackguy1195
@theprogressiveblackguy1195 4 года назад
LEGAL EAGLE: That's fleeing the scene of the crime
@voiceofreason467
@voiceofreason467 4 года назад
Batman: You can't arrest me I'm Batman. Also Legal system: Well... okay.
@DTheCritical
@DTheCritical 4 года назад
@KRYMauL Insanity plea could even be applied possibly
@xplosiv211
@xplosiv211 10 месяцев назад
Moral of the story, if Batman would've just killed the joker the first time he saw him, he would've gotten 20-35 years in prison vs the 65 million he would've gotten by the end
@EarlBiggs
@EarlBiggs 5 месяцев назад
Yes but in the Comic books The Joker only wanted the bat to kill him but knew he wouldn't ever do it
@EarlBiggs
@EarlBiggs 5 месяцев назад
Also Just a nother thing to note in the 90's batman he did kill him Jack Nicholson's Joker The OG Joker death so your moral is off
@megamanxtreme2
@megamanxtreme2 4 месяца назад
@@EarlBiggs That could fall under involuntary manslaughter, then again the two Tim Burton movies seem intended to make Batman murder. (Unrelated, but the problem there is that the thugs weren't paying attention to the fact that his foot was tied to a heavy gargoyle statue, or they would have addressed the problem by landing at the top of the cathedral to clear it up. Of course Batman is still there and they might have urgency to dodge the area entirely.)
@readsomebooks666
@readsomebooks666 Год назад
Regarding the loitering charges: would the Joker’s face paint qualify as sufficiently disguising him to also get charged?
@thefinnishbaconshroom
@thefinnishbaconshroom Год назад
I don't think it would matter much on top of 12 000 years in prison
@readsomebooks666
@readsomebooks666 Год назад
@@thefinnishbaconshroom Not the point of the question, you little troll. Go away.
@gabeparks8173
@gabeparks8173 Год назад
@@thefinnishbaconshroom In that case, it was irrelevant on top of Batman's 60 million
@thefinnishbaconshroom
@thefinnishbaconshroom Год назад
@@gabeparks8173 I mean, after one life sentence, all the other charges are just for vanity
@j0ndav1s
@j0ndav1s 3 года назад
Legal eagle: "you can't just hack everybody's phone. That's 30 million felonys." The NSA: "hold my beer"
@buddythemoth
@buddythemoth 3 года назад
Srsly why doesn't this have more replies
@project4061
@project4061 3 года назад
Right, Edward Snowdon... Seeing that scene reminded me of what the U.S. did.
@willh3972
@willh3972 3 года назад
The NSA and the expanded patriot act. Though I thought it was really nice moment when he makes the system self destruct.
@Absoluteunit3027
@Absoluteunit3027 3 года назад
Literally my first thought
@3EBstudio
@3EBstudio 3 года назад
Bruce wayne still can post for bail
@nekophilia9400
@nekophilia9400 2 года назад
"I still don't understand how Batman and Rachel survived that fall." I guess you could say they broke the laws of physics.
@draekingston
@draekingston 2 года назад
Gliding cape reduced the speed of their fall. Batman landed on his back with his armored suit to protect Rachael.
@GeorgeBratcherIII
@GeorgeBratcherIII 2 года назад
Where's a Physics court & judge when you need them? LOL! The Physics Police should have taken Batman in for breaking the laws! LOL!
@JJuiicceee
@JJuiicceee 2 года назад
Stolen comment
@fruitymcfruitcake9674
@fruitymcfruitcake9674 2 года назад
@@GeorgeBratcherIII Lmao this makes me want to analyze that entire scene to find his (and consequently her) rate of acceleration. Current record of survival is 214Gs (dude launched out of his car on a race track and slammed into a wall), but that guy was severely injured and if I'm not mistaken, the previous record was 83.
@Wilbtube
@Wilbtube 2 года назад
@@draekingston Collision research suggests that her internal organs might rupture when her downward speed is suddenly reduced. For instance the oarta might tear when the heart, still travelling at the speed of gravity, bumps into the sternum that is abruptly travelling at the speed of the batcape...
@finn274
@finn274 2 года назад
13:50 Objection: Batman owns the property they are fighting at, remember Bruce Wayne was hosting the party. So he could still call for self defense since they invaded his private property.
@tonybarrett8543
@tonybarrett8543 Год назад
Batman doesn't own the property, batman does not even reside at the property. If I walk onto your property and you ask me to leave dressed as Mickey Mouse without identifying who you really are I don't have to treat you as property owner. Bruce Wayne as such could be arrested for incitement, entrapment, the list goes on...
@finn274
@finn274 Год назад
@@tonybarrett8543 it doesn’t matter how you dress if someone is invading your property without permission ( joker didn’t call up Bruce and ask for a inv ) than they are still trust passing and he does own the building he literally sneaks into one of his escape hatche than dresses up as Batman and comes back and if you look at earlier scenes in the movie it shows bruise in the same apartment just in his bedroom
@finn274
@finn274 Год назад
Plus this is Bruce Wayne we’re talking about the man who literally bought a restaurant just because he couldn’t swim inside of a pool
@TheLeviathan1293
@TheLeviathan1293 Год назад
If anything, Batman couldn't defend himself without revealing his identity.
@mikeb6085
@mikeb6085 Год назад
​@Tony Barrett Ehhh... that's like saying someone hosting a Halloween party suddenly ceases to own their house as long as they're in their costume lol
@avres13
@avres13 8 месяцев назад
I have trouble believing a jury would convict Batman.
@me-myself-i787
@me-myself-i787 5 месяцев назад
They certainly would. Everyone hates Batman since he killed Harvey Dent.
@skcocemag
@skcocemag 3 месяца назад
​@@me-myself-i787 Allegedly.
@FrostbringerSaLance
@FrostbringerSaLance 5 лет назад
Objection: During the party scene, that was actually taking place in his own home, so bruce wayne/Batman would be justified in using force in that one instance
@abarainosa
@abarainosa 5 лет назад
To elaborate upon that point: The Joker had threatened not 1 but 2 people while holding the entire party hostage while inside of Bruce Wayne's Penthouse; property he very likely owns himself. Therefore, it could be argued that Bruce Wayne is justified to intervene in the defense of Rachel and the other brave old guy for not only that reason. We also know that Joker has already killed multiple people and has made threats to continue to do so via his terrorist threat against the city. It is perfectly reasonable to believe, because of his threat, he was planning to use deadly force against Rachel. This also extends to Joker's goons, as they have conspired with him thus far, so they are equally liable based on your own statements about the bank scene. So using force against them should also be justified in this case.
@ninjabearpress2574
@ninjabearpress2574 5 лет назад
Defense of a third party or, in this case, your party guests.
@andrewchapman1494
@andrewchapman1494 5 лет назад
I was wondering if Batman would be able to use the self defense argument in that scene. Since no one but Rachel knows Bruce Wayne is Batman I think batman himself would be considered a third party preventing a crime. If he revealed himself to be Bruce Wayne on the trial then maybe self defense could apply. I'm not sure though. I hope he responds to this
@jordanwilliams2660
@jordanwilliams2660 5 лет назад
He's also not in a public place, so loitering would also not apply
@evantummillo6568
@evantummillo6568 5 лет назад
Was going to say the same thing. Though maybe LegalEagle is suggesting that Batman and Bruce Wayne should be viewed as two separate entities, and that apart from the Batcave, Batman has no fixed address that could be considered a home?
@carloscaro9121
@carloscaro9121 4 года назад
Children: Batman's awesome! Edgelords: The Joker's right! LegalEagle: They're both incredibly criminally liable.
@cynicalaudax
@cynicalaudax 4 года назад
The joker had 12000 years, but batman had 60 million. They are in NO way even.
@toledoseahawks3348
@toledoseahawks3348 4 года назад
@@cynicalaudax Joker hat 12.000 years
@cynicalaudax
@cynicalaudax 4 года назад
@@toledoseahawks3348 Whoops forgot a zero
@danielcebastionmunizYT
@danielcebastionmunizYT 4 года назад
DCAFS: Screw da law
@Mangel-tz5fi
@Mangel-tz5fi 4 года назад
@@cynicalaudax The Joker had 12000 years AND 35 life sentences. Batman got 190 years without the hole phone hacking stuff, which probably would get counted as a couple of serious crimes. So in general you can say Batman had a couple of life sentences and the Joker a massivly impossible number of life sentences
@williamjones3480
@williamjones3480 2 года назад
“Of course, you can trust me. I’m an attorney.” I’m trying to figure out if I’m right that this was a joke or if he meant it.
@PTDeimos
@PTDeimos 2 года назад
So basically, whenever they get Batman in court, and I'd love to see how exactly they'd pull that off, when the time comes to read out the crimes I can only assume it's going to be this huge roll of paper and they're let it roll out in the court room, followed by "honestly there's just too many to count".
@husseinahmed677
@husseinahmed677 5 лет назад
I'm about 98% this man is not wearing any pants
@christianperez7227
@christianperez7227 4 года назад
I'm 99 percent sure you aren't either
@kendarr
@kendarr 4 года назад
@@christianperez7227 oh shit I ain't
@nectarieienasoaie8541
@nectarieienasoaie8541 4 года назад
It only makes it better
@goldenpants1239
@goldenpants1239 4 года назад
He is a member of the pews race and actually has no legs
@DeepThinker193
@DeepThinker193 4 года назад
He's giving Jeremy Jahns a run for his money.
@NPC1921
@NPC1921 4 года назад
Joker: Slaughtering SWAT cars and innocent policemen This guy: Batman's motorcycle is not licensed to drive in the NY streets
@toomanyfandoms1684
@toomanyfandoms1684 4 года назад
the point of this is to point out all of the crimes both do. Even if some are small.
@speedy01247
@speedy01247 4 года назад
His vehicle literally shoots explosive rounds.
@dogestranding5047
@dogestranding5047 4 года назад
Slaughtering cars?
@danielaramburo7648
@danielaramburo7648 4 года назад
His motorcycle was not illegal, it was undocumented.
@ice2132
@ice2132 4 года назад
NO MORE DEAD COPS!
@normlee6566
@normlee6566 Год назад
In the comics, Batman has always said to his fellow JLAers, "Of course, we're criminals. We've always been criminals. " Technically speaking, he is correct.
@ecokrazy
@ecokrazy Год назад
I'm distressed by how quickly we went from talking about how serious murder is to "thats garden variety murder."
@demianhopstaken3786
@demianhopstaken3786 2 года назад
"Batman. I hereby find you guilty on 58 counts of battery." "For the 10th time today...WHATS "TERY"?
@VivioSaf
@VivioSaf 2 года назад
I laughed a lot more than I should!
@dunmermage
@dunmermage 2 года назад
"You know who Tery is in few decades, Bruce."
@valiyapurakkalNarayanankutty
@valiyapurakkalNarayanankutty 2 года назад
Now that's genuinely funny. Probably batman doing batman things is him indulging in 'Bat-tery'.
@benherrshlim
@benherrshlim 2 года назад
Terry McGinnis
@chrisallie4343
@chrisallie4343 2 года назад
A triple a battery
@rickA31
@rickA31 4 года назад
Joker: *Kills someone* Lawyer: that’s murder
@Deerhunter60641
@Deerhunter60641 4 года назад
Woah! Really?
@captaindeadpool313
@captaindeadpool313 4 года назад
In other news Water=Wet
@kkmdew09
@kkmdew09 4 года назад
Don’t forget 4:58, just the garden variety of murder.
@beccag2758
@beccag2758 4 года назад
Captain Deadpool in other _other_ news, fire is hot
@TonyZhuViz
@TonyZhuViz 4 года назад
omg that's amazing! i never knew that!
@simonayers8033
@simonayers8033 2 года назад
Never have I ever found legal issues so interesting. 60 million years - reason enough not be a masked vigilante
@AP-gk6se
@AP-gk6se Год назад
He might have a permit to test firearms and pyrotechnics. He does have a branch of his company that does defense contracting. That is where his car and armor came from.
@Impossible326
@Impossible326 4 года назад
When he is pointing out the crimes The Joker has committed, it almost sounds like an award show for him.
@YingofDarkness
@YingofDarkness 3 года назад
That is pretty much how the Joker would take it to be honest. If anything, the Joker is going to be mad that Batman is supposed to be serving more life sentences then him.
@ahmadnaufal3730
@ahmadnaufal3730 3 года назад
@@YingofDarkness The Batman even beat the Joker at being a criminal lol.
@thomasredmond5793
@thomasredmond5793 3 года назад
Oh if the joker existed in real life, he would be crying in happiness of how people admire his work and will award him for his great moments :p
@thomasredmond5793
@thomasredmond5793 3 года назад
@@YingofDarkness I wouldn't doubt that, I believe he would be extremely offended and challenged to outbeat the bats in life sentences lmfao
@Krahazik
@Krahazik 3 года назад
Ahmad Naufal Only because of the hacking incident. Until that was tallied in, Batman was fairly low on the jail time compared to the joker.
@jameskelly9686
@jameskelly9686 Год назад
Objection: in the first fight scene against the Joker, Batman was in his own estate and did not have the duty to retreat.
@fantastic_mr.f0x
@fantastic_mr.f0x Год назад
Objection! 5:36 smoke grenade in the mouth in addition to causing emotional damage is also extremely hot, likely at least 2nd degree burns over lower face and inside mouth not to mention smoke inhalation and this likely being deadly regardless.
@Dinoenthusiastguy
@Dinoenthusiastguy 5 лет назад
When Batman does it, it's assault and battery. When I do it, it's assault and tery.
@johnilarde8440
@johnilarde8440 5 лет назад
Batman: “Check the Battery” Robin: “What’s a Tery?” Batman: *slaps robin*
@colinmurphy2214
@colinmurphy2214 5 лет назад
Very clever
@alwaysdisputin9930
@alwaysdisputin9930 5 лет назад
When i do it, it's assault & banana-tery
@benedictifye
@benedictifye 5 лет назад
Well played, Sir
@Dinoenthusiastguy
@Dinoenthusiastguy 4 года назад
@@No-One-of-Consequence It wasn't a bad pun. It was a bat pun.
@deadeyemidget0892
@deadeyemidget0892 5 лет назад
"Of course you can trust me. I'm an attorney." Yeah? So is Harvey Dent.
@joeyfigueroa4748
@joeyfigueroa4748 5 лет назад
Ooof
@laughingstone4210
@laughingstone4210 4 года назад
That's a great point if LegalEagle had ever had the chance to go against Batman / Bruce Wayne in court.
@masterkenobi2119
@masterkenobi2119 4 года назад
Harvey Dent,can we trust him?
@taylorscott1320
@taylorscott1320 4 года назад
But... I thought that was the joke...
@br0l0g
@br0l0g 4 года назад
@@laughingstone4210 Still not enough to use against him
@kellyhurley741
@kellyhurley741 2 года назад
FYI, you missed 2 murders in the scene where Joker kills Gambol. He stabbed the two men that were next to him when he was laying on the pool table faking his death. He stabbed & used them as leverage to get up & assault, then murder Gambol. So yea, just figured you should know, just in case you wanted to add another 40 years to his, already, incredible sentence
@Moose92411
@Moose92411 Год назад
This is the legalistic clarity that I never wanted but now know I needed
@legocontrollerjr
@legocontrollerjr 4 года назад
Joker: *Takes a hostage and puts a gun to her head* Legal Eagle: Okay so here we have a loitering violation.
@theoriginalshew
@theoriginalshew 4 года назад
In his own home too. That party was at Bruce's property
@rauljulio5396
@rauljulio5396 4 года назад
That was a very weak point. In 6:00 he explains self-defense and I think Joker henchmen are obviously about to use unlawful physical force. In 6:50 he explains the use of deadly force as self-defense, and again, it seems to me that it is obvious that Joker and his gang are about to use deadly force against Batman and his guests, it is HIS HOME ( 7:20 ), and it is reasonable to assume that the gang would probably kidnap or just rape Rachel, and rob everyone at the party, IF Batman wasn't there to kick their asses and save the lady. So that part doesn't make any sense... but I liked the video.
@DownWithBureaucracy
@DownWithBureaucracy 4 года назад
@@theoriginalshew objection! It isn't in public, it's private property and thus not loitering
@YouJustJealous
@YouJustJealous 4 года назад
@Raul Julio I think it makes perfect sense. Bruce is allowed in his own home, BATMAN is not. Batman is also a wanted criminal. He’s not allowed to be there and he was absolutely assaulting and battering people.
@jerome1lm
@jerome1lm Год назад
@@YouJustJealous Why would he not be allowed to be there if Bruce invites him to the party?
@3nails4you
@3nails4you 5 лет назад
Joker threatens Rachel with a gun unless Batman takes off his mask. "OK here we have a clear loitering violation..." Just about lost it there
@-13eNnY-
@-13eNnY- 11 месяцев назад
Iirc, Batman was asked if he could kidnap Lao by Commissioner Gordon. That's conspiracy right there, at the very least. Then Batman actually went and successfully kidnapped Lao and delivered him to the police. The police are not blameless just because they didn't actually send any of their officers to do the kidnapping.
@MistyMay-qe7ix
@MistyMay-qe7ix 10 месяцев назад
Actually Gordon didn't ask him... The Harvey the DA asked him... And you would need another DA to prosecute him... And seeing as they are going after the Mob most DAs will let that past
@twiceborn_by_grace
@twiceborn_by_grace Год назад
I love when the professionals in their field react to movies and tv shows and tell what is wrong or right.
@TheZeroRyuzaki
@TheZeroRyuzaki 5 лет назад
14:07 Technically, Batman is off the hook for assaulting joker and his henchmen, because this entire scene is taking place in Bruce’s penthouse. So the joker and his goons were breaking into Bruce’s house. Also, Batman isn’t breaking any loitering law since, again, it’s his own house.
@kanvaros4451
@kanvaros4451 5 лет назад
But isn't that predicated knowing batman is Bruce Wayne ? If we didn't know that couldn't he still be charged unless he removed his mask or Bruce Wayne decided not to press charges ?
@ThorsteinnMemeson
@ThorsteinnMemeson 5 лет назад
@@kanvaros4451 I mean if he was brought to court im pretty sure they would take his mask off...
@armorsmith43
@armorsmith43 5 лет назад
Travis Sanchez You’re mixing up criminal and civil law. The DA presses charges, not private actors. Private actors merely cooperate in criminal prosecutions by providing evidence.
@armorsmith43
@armorsmith43 5 лет назад
Zero Ryuzaki also, wasn’t the Joker threatening the other people at the party?
@DelightfulWalrus
@DelightfulWalrus 5 лет назад
But as he's been saying throughout the video, he has the duty to withdraw (run away) instead of engaging in violence.
@ckillgore
@ckillgore 4 года назад
The opening line of "Cool magic trick, also first degree murder" reminds me of the line from Brooklyn 99, "Cool motive, still murder". 😂
@zorokaz7496
@zorokaz7496 4 года назад
Christian Killgore 99! Sorry, i just get excited when someone mentions the show 😅
@FallenAngel-lk8bm
@FallenAngel-lk8bm 4 года назад
@@zorokaz7496 The show is awesome
@zorokaz7496
@zorokaz7496 4 года назад
Fallen angel1722 i know!
@spornge
@spornge 4 года назад
Reminds me of an SVU with Ice T whom I wish got more air time when he says "yeah I get it , you are a pervert pedophile!"
@sheggy3658
@sheggy3658 4 года назад
👏🏿👏🏿😂😂😂😂
@CommanderOfTheEmuArmy
@CommanderOfTheEmuArmy 2 года назад
Now we need a 'laws broken' video for The Batman
@lorddrayvon1426
@lorddrayvon1426 10 месяцев назад
As a reminder to everyone, New York State abolished the death penalty in 2004 and the last actual execution was in 1963 via electric chair at Sing Sing Prison.
@zentrader1073
@zentrader1073 5 лет назад
Objection: You forgot littering when the Joker dropped all those cards after blowing up the judge.
@felixd6001
@felixd6001 5 лет назад
Yayyy ! * approving mumblings in background from members of the Chamber of Commons *
@peterf.229
@peterf.229 5 лет назад
@The Legend of Texas I got a 50 dollar fine and had to clean up the garbage ;)
@tenkenroo
@tenkenroo 5 лет назад
Littering is a misdemeanor. A police officer would have to be see the joker do it
@19youtubian72
@19youtubian72 5 лет назад
In the grand scheme of the Joker's crimes, this is probably at the bottom of the list. LOL
@tenkenroo
@tenkenroo 5 лет назад
@@NonDescriptEntity2024 no an infraction is something like a basic speeding ticket
@eliwatson7936
@eliwatson7936 4 года назад
Objection: during the party, Batman has no duty to retreat because it’s taking place in his own home
@InsanityProdutions
@InsanityProdutions 4 года назад
As well as the fact that because of the Joker's previous terrorist threat, intent to harm can already be established.
@robertlowe6367
@robertlowe6367 4 года назад
I think maybe it wouldn't apply to him because he's concealing his identity and the aggressive parties do not know it's his house. Also to defend against the charge he'd have to admit he's Bruce Wayne lol
@Nihontopride
@Nihontopride 4 года назад
@Vanilla Good luck geting the mask off without his consent.
@scubasteve2169
@scubasteve2169 4 года назад
@@robertlowe6367 so if I was wearing bondage equipment concealing my face, I couldn't defend because they didnt know it was my house?
@scubasteve2169
@scubasteve2169 4 года назад
Id say it was because a third party was being threatened.
@HECKproductions
@HECKproductions 2 года назад
15:15 firing single shots out of a gatling style gun should be a crime
@cameronorcutt5505
@cameronorcutt5505 Год назад
Wouldn't Batman in most scenarios be protected under the Good Samaritan's Act? Especially in scenes like 14:08. I'm not questioning a lawyer, I'm sure you know more than me, but I am curious.
@thomasvansant3377
@thomasvansant3377 7 месяцев назад
Good Samaritan refers to giving aid to someone who's injured or ill
@oafkad
@oafkad 5 лет назад
Man gets stabbed in the brain with a pencil. "Cute Magic Trick." Ok, well I know which attorney I'm not making mad.
@MAOofDC
@MAOofDC 5 лет назад
Well to be honest it a kind of funny moment if you like "black, dark, or gallows" humor. It's the "Ta Da!" at the end.
@mageyuri
@mageyuri 5 лет назад
There's actually evidence of the pencil trick happening and not killing people. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4hHSedJ9qqU.html
@samuelraymond5852
@samuelraymond5852 5 лет назад
Ya, I saw that too, made a separate comment because I didn't see it here. Not 1st degree murder for this one imo.
@jdd5672
@jdd5672 5 лет назад
Pretty sure a pencil is not going through your skull, especially the forehead which is the thickest part.
@AngDavies
@AngDavies 5 лет назад
@@jdd5672 eyes...I'll leave it at that, :/
@AynRKey
@AynRKey 3 года назад
18:25 - Objection, you overlooked "practicing medicine without a license" on the part of the Joker.
@nicb9273
@nicb9273 3 года назад
Agreed, iirc he is changing a bag at one point.
@Dark_Mishra
@Dark_Mishra 3 года назад
Depends if the Joker did the implanting of the phone himself, but yes, he would still be charged with the involvement of the crime.
@ricardozk
@ricardozk 3 года назад
And the time he dressed up as a nurse. I heard that it's a crime to dress up as a doctor in a hospital without license. Maybe it's also a crime if you dress up as a nurse.
@cheriberry3
@cheriberry3 2 года назад
@@ricardozk yeah but wasn't it like a Halloween costume? I mean he was doing it to pass as a nurse, but would it still count?
@FatY0shi
@FatY0shi Год назад
Objection! In the scene where batman drives his bat motorcycle,he also should be accused of child endangerment since the kids in the car could have been hurt by the cars flying around and the explosions.
@calvinguy2715
@calvinguy2715 9 месяцев назад
Alfred told the story of catching the criminal stealing jewels. He said they had to “burn down the forest,” foreshadowing Batman’s decision to tap into everyone’s phones.
@cartertheatrocity6673
@cartertheatrocity6673 5 лет назад
Objection: Arkham isnt jail. Its an insane aslyum.
@pelksaka
@pelksaka 5 лет назад
Bruce Wayne is mentally unstable and a huge threat.
@brandonlyon730
@brandonlyon730 5 лет назад
One with a revolving door.
@e32b61
@e32b61 5 лет назад
carter jelacic Objection: in real life the Joker would never be sent to an insane asylum as it's evident that he is aware of his own actions. Is he competent to stand trial? Probably not, but he would be convicted of murder and acts of terrorism just the same. As such he committed crimes that would have him executed by the federal government. Harvey Dent wouldn't be the one prosecuting him.
@HamsterPants522
@HamsterPants522 5 лет назад
@@pelksaka You sound like the talking heads in The Dark Knight Returns.
@blew1t
@blew1t 5 лет назад
@@HamsterPants522 awh i thought this was a Talking Heads reference :/
@TheArtofDeduction_Official
@TheArtofDeduction_Official 3 года назад
objection: in the scene where batman commits battery against the joker's henchmen in his penthouse, you said self-defense wouldn't apply because he had the opportunity to withdraw. However, given that the penthouse that batman is fighting these henchmen in is owned by Bruce Wayne, meaning that it is his own home, wouldn't he not be required to withdraw?
@astaut2659
@astaut2659 3 года назад
But he will have to reveal his identity Assuming he did, then its self defense If not, it’s trespassing
@TheArtofDeduction_Official
@TheArtofDeduction_Official 3 года назад
@@astaut2659 I mean I was assuming that all these laws apply to Batman the moment he’s unmasked and taken into custody by the police... because as is clear by his evasion of law enforcement they can’t do anything if they can’t catch him lol
@astaut2659
@astaut2659 3 года назад
@@TheArtofDeduction_Official but the police will be not cooperating and just hunting for like a mad man
@allankalynchuk8409
@allankalynchuk8409 3 года назад
Not in Canada, in Canada you are obligated to run away if you can. I was convicted of assault years ago after someone broke into my home while I was eating supper.The judge told me that I should have ran out the back door
@Jmanclub-vd7mg
@Jmanclub-vd7mg 3 года назад
Allan Kalynchuk, that sucks.
@bantehayes9973
@bantehayes9973 Год назад
Dude, I'm loving your channel more and more.
@andrewbrinkworth1420
@andrewbrinkworth1420 2 года назад
"of course you can trust me I'm an attorney" killed me and reminds me of my favourite bar The Honest Lawyer
@trenchcoatjoe1891
@trenchcoatjoe1891 4 года назад
But you're leaving out the most important law, The Batman Law. The law reads as such: "I'm Batman"
@beanlets
@beanlets 4 года назад
Objection, such a law is non-existent
@beanlets
@beanlets 4 года назад
And it can not exist
@cday9206
@cday9206 4 года назад
Charles Kogan. Objection to your objection. Of course it does, he’s Batman!
@ShipwreckedMates
@ShipwreckedMates 3 года назад
"Cute magic trick, also first degree murder" will stand as the best opening line of all time
@justinmaitland7335
@justinmaitland7335 3 года назад
It is possible that the person didn't die. They would want to, but still be alive.
@Blokewood3
@Blokewood3 3 года назад
That guy was clearly about to attack Joker.
@ShipwreckedMates
@ShipwreckedMates 3 года назад
@@Blokewood3 we don’t know his intentions. He just as likely could’ve guided the Joker out peacefully
@LadyOnikara
@LadyOnikara 3 года назад
Also the weapon used successfully by John Wick. The pencil is a rather effective weapon.
@erikkennedy8725
@erikkennedy8725 3 года назад
I believe Because Science addressed this, and the injuries sustained would not probably be lethal. Just potentially brain damaging.
@denace2society591
@denace2society591 2 года назад
this was my favorite episode! thanks, bud!
@oscarf5433
@oscarf5433 Год назад
14:45 Batman openly braking the law of Gravity
@submit2darkseid
@submit2darkseid 4 года назад
*"I'm a lawyer you can trust me"* Objection.
@xionxinx
@xionxinx 4 года назад
Objection. 'You can trust me, I'm an attorney'
@ljt47exploring64
@ljt47exploring64 4 года назад
Over ruled
@baskstorian4251
@baskstorian4251 4 года назад
69 nice.
@dianeaustin2414
@dianeaustin2414 4 года назад
Well played sir, well played!!!
@relativisticvel
@relativisticvel 4 года назад
Objection: You missed the gun the joker was using was a machine pistol, that is a felony under federal law.
@NorwegianAmericanKid
@NorwegianAmericanKid 4 года назад
Technically the shotgun the bank manager was also a class 3 weapon since it was sawn-down, unless he got a class 3 stamp for it.
@CFneo98
@CFneo98 4 года назад
@@NorwegianAmericanKid he is the manager of a bank that launders criminal money and he knows that. I don't think he is using any sort of stamps xD
@markwhalen8731
@markwhalen8731 4 года назад
Olewarrior34 I don’t think that was sawed off it looks just like a standard 14 inch barrel no stock
@NorwegianAmericanKid
@NorwegianAmericanKid 4 года назад
@@markwhalen8731 hmm might be, this was way before the shockwave was a thing tho so itd still be below the required minimum length likely
@gasolean5114
@gasolean5114 4 года назад
Not if Joker had it grandfathered in and has proper licensing
@sorryaboutnico
@sorryaboutnico Год назад
He didn’t have an obligation to withdraw, it’s Bruce Wayne’s apartment, who is Batman. He’s using self defense to protect 3rd persons from threats of violence and possible kidnapping, etc.
@theyofmanynames
@theyofmanynames Год назад
5:58 Probably the closest I'll ever get to my dream of seeing a real lawyer slam on their desk, dramatically point, and shout OBJECTION. At least he's doing one of those things!
@IgnasA.164
@IgnasA.164 4 года назад
Joker :12000 Years in prison Batman: 60 milion years in prison Joker : Huh, and everyone says that im a bad guy !
@kilborn666
@kilborn666 4 года назад
@@MrNineFive 35 lifetimes still wouldn't come anywhere near close to 60 million years. To put it in perspective, modern humans have only existed for about 200,000 years.
@kilborn666
@kilborn666 4 года назад
@@MrNineFive You only become eligible for parole after serving one third of your sentence, so batman would have to serve 20 million years (lol) to qualify.
@jamesmetallica115
@jamesmetallica115 4 года назад
Just because you are badguy, does not mean you are a bad guy...
@SirApplesauce
@SirApplesauce 4 года назад
Could you please prove the math... and in which timeline?
@xXevilsmilesXx
@xXevilsmilesXx 4 года назад
D:
@CaptainMadrick
@CaptainMadrick 4 года назад
I love that Batman is liable for several counts of "battery"
@SirUnknown2
@SirUnknown2 3 года назад
What's a tery?
@SomeRandomPangolin
@SomeRandomPangolin 3 года назад
I see what you did there
@AngelusAnsell
@AngelusAnsell 3 года назад
Take my like, you awful awful person. xD
@seansmagee
@seansmagee 3 года назад
@@SirUnknown2 didn’t get the original joke until I saw this comment
@TAILSORANGEs
@TAILSORANGEs 3 года назад
Batman probably came into the prison, and got a joker coming out into the world.
@sisterkilarra7200
@sisterkilarra7200 2 года назад
Given the use of the pencil in the magic trick, could the pencil then be considered an assault weapon?
@jewelaloo7831
@jewelaloo7831 8 месяцев назад
Fun fact, while Gotham does seem like a romanticized version of a crime-ridden NYC, Gotham is actually in South New Jersey! Supposedly somewhere in the Delaware River too since in some adaptations Gotham is visible from Metropolis and vice versa, Metropolis is located in Delaware!
@stever1705
@stever1705 3 года назад
Joker is looking at a sentence of over 1000 years, and yet somehow Megamind has a longer prison sentence
@ryanjapan3113
@ryanjapan3113 2 года назад
Actually Joker’s sentence would probably about 12,000 years iirc.
@efulmer8675
@efulmer8675 2 года назад
Megamind was serving 85 life sentences, which if we take a life sentence to be 100 years, then that's 8500 years. The Joker's total was about 12000 years, so Megamind was giving The Joker a run for his money but even he couldn't quite do it.
@usdepartmentoftreasuryinte6052
@usdepartmentoftreasuryinte6052 2 года назад
"oh you're a villain alright! *just not a super one!* "
@charlespedersen5752
@charlespedersen5752 2 года назад
@@usdepartmentoftreasuryinte6052 no, jokers got presentation. he is suitably flamboyant
@lumiereeclair
@lumiereeclair Год назад
@@charlespedersen5752 Jack Nicholson's Joker had the presentation, Heath Ledger was just a better representation of sociopath Joker.
@FalloutPlays
@FalloutPlays 5 лет назад
If you had a channel about laws in Middle Earth, would we be Legal Smeagol's
@dreamcanvas5321
@dreamcanvas5321 5 лет назад
What a precious idea!
@nathangamble125
@nathangamble125 5 лет назад
Or we could be... Filthy legal Hobbitses!
@ZekeAxel
@ZekeAxel 5 лет назад
But Eagles actually exist in the Middle Earth... Like, HUGE EAGLES
@DirkAustin
@DirkAustin 5 лет назад
Nope, Legal Trouble because copyright. Lol.
@CadetGriffin
@CadetGriffin 5 лет назад
@@DirkAustin But he's a copyright attorney so he should be able to save himself in that case.
@cosmicwire6356
@cosmicwire6356 2 года назад
14:08 Objection! I’m not entirely sure, but I believe that he is acting in defence of another, which a lawyer friend of mine tells me falls under the same if not similar laws of self defence. Though I am Australian so it might just be a law in my country.
@mikecoker4007
@mikecoker4007 8 месяцев назад
I really wanted him to answer whether or not Batman was liable for beating up the cops to save the disguised hostages
@theliato3809
@theliato3809 5 лет назад
"Can batman use self defense?" Entering gotham city alone should be grounds for that.
@dhotnessmcawesome9747
@dhotnessmcawesome9747 5 лет назад
Agreed. Something often completely overlooked by the "is Batman justified" arguments are that we keep putting him in places that he is NOT in. He is NOT in New York. He is in New Jersey. Gotham, a city in New Jersey has an absurd crime rate due to police and civic corruption and pretty much every adult is either a criminal or a victim of crime. Batman didn't suit up because he didn't have anything to do on Tuesday. He did this because the city he loves (is obsessed with, see arguments for "Is Batman autistic"... cuz he so totally is) is COMPLETELY OVERTHROWN BY CRIME. Not because he saw a jay walker and said "Not in my city". And as always…. so long as the specific judge and jurors in his trial were not bought off.... What court is going to put him away under 1) the conditions of the city, 2) the complete unwillingness or inability of the police to do shit about it 3) he committed crimes against criminals and terrorists the likes of which only exist in comics (and the movies about them) directly, specifically and exclusively to stop them/save people. Based on "extenuating circumstances"... Not guilty. But then the phone thing. I had a problem with that writing in the movie as no Batman I know would do that. Almost that... yes. THAT... nope. Makes him exactly what he's obsessed with stopping... someone who commits crimes against the innocent. Can't do it due that strict moral code and obsession due to autism. So yeah. In short.... +1 Wait... do we still the +1 on the internet on is that the like button now?
@DragonBallPaul
@DragonBallPaul 5 лет назад
@@dhotnessmcawesome9747 Justified and legal are not the same thing of course.
@dhotnessmcawesome9747
@dhotnessmcawesome9747 5 лет назад
@@DragonBallPaul Who ever said legal? I didn't say legal. Batman is a vigilante. Vigilantism is a crime. Now like all trials... (we're technically putting him on trial here is all) is he GUILTY under the CIRCUMSTANCES of the crimes as charged and should he do time are the only subjects. This juror: Not guilty due to comic book level circumstances.
@danielpreciado3112
@danielpreciado3112 5 лет назад
@@dhotnessmcawesome9747 What the suit man is saying is that even though some of his actions could be justified, that never means they're legal. Even in New Jersey, hacking into people's devices is a federal crime that'd be punishable in every State. Assault and battery, destruction of property, kidnapping, all illegal throughout the States.
@dhotnessmcawesome9747
@dhotnessmcawesome9747 5 лет назад
@@danielpreciado3112 What the D man is saying doesn't dispute that. Go on. Look at everything I've typed everywhere about all of it. I don't call it legal at any point in time. I argued justification, not legality. I also argue that Batman not only lives in the state of New Jersey (which changes precious little BUT...) but he also lives in the world of comic book land. In a city that is a warzone. Where it was either be a vigilante (a crime Batman and I are both aware of) or let everyone suffer. It's the same argument I'd make for some homeland security laws... SOME. There's also an issue with the letter of the law and the spirit of the law which becomes and enormous debate that can never be solved by people who don't seem to get... I didn't say BALLS about ANYTHING Batman does as being LEGAL. Though if I commit crimes in New Jersey and I'm tried under Alaska's laws... I'm going to request a mistrial. I'm going to get it... UNLESS the crimes are federal (not all of his are) than what New York law only goes so far... Just like real life law doesn't apply to Batman land period. Justified. Not legal. As the idea of this whole thing is to clearly put him "on trial" than I have no choice but to request a change of venue to where his crimes took place, or I'll be forced to move for a mistrial.
@solprovider5385
@solprovider5385 Год назад
Objection: Gotham City, New Jersey is southern port in Cumberland County, across the Delaware Bay from Metropolis, Delaware where Superman lives. You applied wrong laws, should be New Jersey, not New York. "Gotham City" Wikipedia page contains a map from comic book showing both cities. 20221207
@NJPCofficial
@NJPCofficial 2 года назад
If you ever visit Chicago, which I recently did, the whole time you are their you will be like “This looks, feels, and sounds like frickin Gotham City.
@kayleighlehrman9566
@kayleighlehrman9566 5 лет назад
Objection: the Joker's thugs wrongfully entered Bruce's penthouse during the party, therefore Bruce/Batman is justified, in this instance, via self defense.
@mattg9343
@mattg9343 5 лет назад
2nd the objection - however Batman would need to publicly disclose his identity as Bruce Wayne and therefore allowing for apprehension and prosecution for all of Batman's other crimes for which he can't assert self defense.
@OhtheSuffering
@OhtheSuffering 5 лет назад
Ah, but then Bruce would have no choice but to reveal that he is, in fact, Batman.
@nicholasjohnson1511
@nicholasjohnson1511 5 лет назад
@@OhtheSuffering I feel like if he was at the point of defending himself in court after being arrested that likely would have come out. You can't really try someone without arresting and indicting them
@mageyuri
@mageyuri 5 лет назад
It still stands to reason that the original objection here stands, Batman/Bruce Wayne is protecting the people in his own home, which is pointed out earlier in the video that he is under no obligation to withdraw and is justified in use of deadly force to protect his home and guests.
@samuelraymond5852
@samuelraymond5852 5 лет назад
+1, also I feel that more of his "assaults" would be justified by self defense since you he would be waved of his obligation to retreat since a every act of the Joker also threatened other people therefore Batman would be justified in using physical force since it was reasonably necessary to protect a "third person" from imminent, unlawful physical force. This could also apply to deadly force but strangely enough in James's list for unlawful acts you can use deadly force to prevent he doesn't include murder???
@Macdaddy5539
@Macdaddy5539 5 лет назад
Objection: Batman violates NYS DMV Vehicle and Traffic Law, Section 501 when he is riding the Batcycle. He is not wearing a DOT approved motorcycle helmet.
@MacMashPotato
@MacMashPotato 5 лет назад
The mask is a helmet, not a great one but its supposed to be bullet resistant.
@GhostBear3067
@GhostBear3067 5 лет назад
@@MacMashPotato while his mask/cowell is a helmet, it is not a DOT approved motorcycle helmet, or as I have heard one ER doctor call it, "ID Bucket".
@DJohnGrady
@DJohnGrady 5 лет назад
@@GhostBear3067 "ID Bucket", I am so stealing that.
@lirsh3248
@lirsh3248 5 лет назад
im sure his helmet would pass all DMV and even SNELL tests for helemts
@pjamese3
@pjamese3 5 лет назад
I propose that given its durability and cushioning (when Batman falls from a height or takes a bullet to the head) his cowl is more than the equivalent of a DOT approved helmet.
@redmarvel1978
@redmarvel1978 Год назад
For some reason, it doesn't seem like the Joker is worried about being a law-abiding citizen.
@Lineman72T
@Lineman72T 3 месяца назад
2:52 "William Fichtner bringing the heat" Nicely done
@Flop_Studios
@Flop_Studios 4 года назад
Batmans times 150 years 45 years Me: He's not doing bad compared to the Joker... 60 million years WHAT ok
@IamnotfromUSA
@IamnotfromUSA 4 года назад
TRUE
@barsni4779
@barsni4779 4 года назад
I'm pretty sure those would be combined into single case and would not get penalty for every single hacking instance. Also courts are lazy so they combine several crimes sentences and only give partial sum of sentences.
@theexchipmunk
@theexchipmunk 4 года назад
@@barsni4779 OH, but they would definitely throw the Book so to say. In that world Batman is in the view of the public the one who started it.
@fahlur9880
@fahlur9880 4 года назад
its because of the 30 million counts of illegal use of a computer. Also they do combined counts, but they usually go after what would really count against the person. Then go after them again in a future case on the others.
@forbiddenwordme5167
@forbiddenwordme5167 4 года назад
"Cute magic trick, also first degree murder." I want that on a shirt.
@markpower2005b
@markpower2005b 4 года назад
“Cool motive, still murder”
@eleonarcrimson858
@eleonarcrimson858 3 года назад
@Mikê'e Stark KH
@Saphman4
@Saphman4 3 года назад
@Mikê'e Stark ? Buddy, that's lead poisoning. And even if he doesn't die, that's attempted murder.
@NapaCat
@NapaCat 3 года назад
@@Saphman4 Lead isn't used in pencils anymore; it's actually graphite.
@Saphman4
@Saphman4 3 года назад
@@NapaCat okay then. New plan. Grievous bodily harm?
@HilaryPea
@HilaryPea Год назад
Sneaky, sneaky! I like how you use the movie/segment to plug the sponsor. It made me laugh good-naturedly. If it were a product I wanted, it would have persuaded me to check the product out more than just a normal plug. Excellent!
@littletimelord2755
@littletimelord2755 Год назад
“Cute magic trick…. Also first degree murder.” I think that about sums up the joker.
@SeraphsWitness
@SeraphsWitness 3 года назад
Objection: Speculation. You don't know if Wayne Enterprises is licensed to have an indoor firing range or not.
@Mr_T_Badger
@Mr_T_Badger 2 года назад
The ATF is still going to have a field day with all his assorted explosives and likely those miniguns too.
@SeraphsWitness
@SeraphsWitness 2 года назад
@@Mr_T_Badger true enough. The ATF never met a firearm they didn't want to regulate.
@bubba200874426
@bubba200874426 2 года назад
@@Mr_T_Badger Wayne Enterprises probably makes that stuff in the Batman universe.
@garrett9550
@garrett9550 2 года назад
@@bubba200874426 which would mean they are an SOT and legally can use it
@rangerwill
@rangerwill 2 года назад
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Waynetech a defense contractor ? Which means they would probably need to have firearms to test efficiency of whatever armor they are creating.
@harshraythattha3886
@harshraythattha3886 3 года назад
OJECTION Gotham is in New Jersey per comic book lore, and being a resident of said state I can rightfully claim that we are just as lawless as the movie shows us to be.
@seaneaves9291
@seaneaves9291 3 года назад
New York... It's in the very first issues on detective Comics back in the Golden age
@dmfaccount1272
@dmfaccount1272 2 года назад
@@seaneaves9291 metropolis is New York. There can't be 2 new York's.
@alexanderhood8993
@alexanderhood8993 2 года назад
To be honest Gotham is based on multiple real life sin city’s based in United state of America so Gotham influenced from every sin city in United state of America 🇺🇸 and considering that Gotham is suffering from every type of crimes imaginable from every person in Gotham city yet there are still moral citizens who refused to break the law that somehow outnumbered the number of criminals and corrupt people in Gotham from every type of organization’s despite constant mass murder that somehow numbered in billions of people dying daily in Gotham.
@whatupcuz3688
@whatupcuz3688 2 года назад
@@dmfaccount1272 metropolis is DC Gotham is New Jersey
@mentaya11
@mentaya11 2 года назад
Generally, I've seen evidence and claims for Gotham being one of two cities; the darker side of NYC while Metropolis is the brighter side and Chicago. Both of these have been openly stated at different times by creators of Batman comics and movies. I've never heard NJ.
@9999plato
@9999plato Год назад
How did Batman fall faster than Raichel in order to catch up to her and catch her midair? Things cannot fall faster than their terminal velocity and his cape that allows him to glide would no doubt create some unintended drag. They did not die or receive serious injuries when they land hard enough to crush the cars roof.
@raymond4189
@raymond4189 Год назад
After a certain amount of damaged or crimes, wouldn't it automatically go to the federal system instead of state?
@unkles
@unkles 4 года назад
"Hes not the criminal we deserve. But the criminal we needed"
@robot3759
@robot3759 4 года назад
You either die a criminal, or live long enough to see yourself become the criminal.
@BenultraAuxerre
@BenultraAuxerre 4 года назад
"Never need a bitch, I'm what a bitch need" - The Weeknd, Heartless
@cryofpaine
@cryofpaine 4 года назад
So would you say that Batman and Rachael violated the laws of physics?
@dannymotionless3417
@dannymotionless3417 4 года назад
Priceless
@MLennholm
@MLennholm 4 года назад
That's 14 billion years in prison right there
@lordofuzkulak8308
@lordofuzkulak8308 4 года назад
Yes but lawyers have no jurisdiction over that; time to call a scientist! 😜
@justtocomment5948
@justtocomment5948 4 года назад
Omg...I heard the drums on that one😂😂
@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770
@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770 4 года назад
AR-REST. AR-REST.
@dylanmarshall761
@dylanmarshall761 2 года назад
I know this is an old one, but it’s still one of the best! I went to see this in theaters. First movie I ever got to see by myself (with friends) and two face immediately became my favorite Batman villain!
@DINSDAY77
@DINSDAY77 Год назад
I have a question, What legal ramifications would Commissioner Gordon be charged with for conspiring with a vigilante such as Batman?
@CapCrunch45
@CapCrunch45 5 лет назад
OBJECTION! Wouldn’t driving a school bus into a bank count as destruction of property?
@patrickschnurbusch8319
@patrickschnurbusch8319 5 лет назад
More aptly properties since he was literally smashing two properties together, the bank and the bus
@GriffinPilgrim
@GriffinPilgrim 5 лет назад
He already covered breaking and entering, I think this would fall under that.
@theexchipmunk
@theexchipmunk 5 лет назад
They brocke the windows of the other building before zip-lining over. Thats another one for destruction of property.
@lakodamon
@lakodamon 5 лет назад
Sustained. He was distracted by the conspiracy to commit murder.
@rangers94ism
@rangers94ism 5 лет назад
@ArmchairWarrior I don't think that matters seeing that he was shot to death by the Joker.
@sauron6064
@sauron6064 4 года назад
Batman in jail longer than the joker These are confusing times
@erikt3162
@erikt3162 4 года назад
You read old comics pre New 52 shows Batman was lawless.
@emperororthopox1691
@emperororthopox1691 4 года назад
No the joker got longer he got 30 life sentences The number on the shield was a bit confusing I admit
@belland_dog8235
@belland_dog8235 4 года назад
@@emperororthopox1691 60 million years is longer than 30 life sentences
@MyKillerson
@MyKillerson 4 года назад
@@emperororthopox1691 assuming the average lifespan is 100 years, 30 life sentences would only see the Joker in prison for 3,000 years
@belland_dog8235
@belland_dog8235 4 года назад
@Tahka DM The point still stands
@user-gb7ji6xy5d
@user-gb7ji6xy5d 7 месяцев назад
I would probably watch you tear through superhero movies like this all day without feeling bored or repetitive...good sir.
@tracesosebee5485
@tracesosebee5485 Год назад
Legal Eagle: "Of course you can trust me! I'm an attorney." Me: "Not how that works. Yes it's how that should work, but not always how that works."
@seto007
@seto007 5 лет назад
13:50 Objection. The Henchmen are clearly armed with firearms and knives, and thus constitute an immediate and deadly threat to both Batman and the Party Goers. I also believe that it's Bruce Wayne's property, meaning he's under no obligation to retreat from it.
@kwinzman
@kwinzman 5 лет назад
Good point.
@iruns1246
@iruns1246 5 лет назад
Agreed, so scratch a couple of decades from that millions of years of sentence.
@LetsPlayZombieGames
@LetsPlayZombieGames 5 лет назад
I agree. I don't know the laws of New York, but I wouldn't have thought Bruce Wayne putting on a mask in his own property, rushing a guest to safety, and fighting thugs actively threatening his guests would be loitering, kidnapping, or assault, but maybe New York is super strict about that duty to retreat.
@thomassaldana2465
@thomassaldana2465 5 лет назад
Not only that. I'm not sure about in the US, but here in NZ the 'self defense' idea also applies to any person whom you have a duty to protect. Bruce could argue that he has a duty to keep his party guests safe, and therefore he is allowed to use physical force to do so.
@misterghoul9457
@misterghoul9457 5 лет назад
@@iruns1246 he could likely file for immunity for the wire taps, with a good enough lawyer.
@LukeThompson156
@LukeThompson156 3 года назад
Leagle Eagle: "Cute magic trick... still first degree murder." Can't stop laughing about that one.
@stayfoot11
@stayfoot11 3 года назад
Hahaha. What a magic trick hahaha
@LukeThompson156
@LukeThompson156 3 года назад
@@stayfoot11 does he go kids parties?!
@LancsKid1
@LancsKid1 3 года назад
Only problem there is it is not murder unless death is confirmed as you can survive a pencil to the head through the eye, though still a crime.
@Dark_Mishra
@Dark_Mishra 3 года назад
@@LancsKid1 I’m going to guess he ultimately doesn’t survive that due to the length of the pencil.
@karmaakatsuki7235
@karmaakatsuki7235 3 года назад
same
@cadillacdeville5828
@cadillacdeville5828 Год назад
I really enjoyed this, thanks
@farhanjaffer3913
@farhanjaffer3913 4 месяца назад
Everytime I watch this movie I'm so dialed into every single word! Also I chuckled when you said "...destruction of property..." 😆😆😆
@bplup6419
@bplup6419 5 лет назад
"Batman should be in jail for 60 million years." -Lawyer who looks suspiciously like Aaron Eckhart
@osmium6832
@osmium6832 5 лет назад
My brain exploded in slow motion when I read this.
@DirkAustin
@DirkAustin 5 лет назад
Nah, Legal Eagle is cuter.
@kariprice6559
@kariprice6559 5 лет назад
LE can get it fr, lol Eckhart... notsomuch
@DylanZZ3
@DylanZZ3 5 лет назад
WOW i did not notice that he looks like Aaron Eckhart.
@imperialguard28
@imperialguard28 2 года назад
....nahhh
@RipleySawzen
@RipleySawzen 5 лет назад
OBJECTION! They NEVER hit hackers with a penalty for each and every computer they hacked. Also 18:36 Unlicensed surgery
@SuperExodian
@SuperExodian 5 лет назад
^this, i highly doubt you'd get 60 000 000 years for making malware
@damshek
@damshek 5 лет назад
Right? This would mean that even a common ad malware would incur the longest punishment in pretty much the entire human history.
@motokuchoma
@motokuchoma 5 лет назад
@@SuperExodian Its true though. The thing is, you rarely get sued by every single person who got your malware, also you need to actually prove that the copy of malware on your PC was caused by that particular hacker. In this case, there is proof that he literally invaded the privacy and hacked every single person in Gotham
@thunderflare59
@thunderflare59 5 лет назад
No. That's from the Tim Burton Batman movie.
@earningattorney9887
@earningattorney9887 5 лет назад
@@damshek Which honestly as annoying and malicious as some malware is I kinda think I'm ok with this.
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