Lawyers J Sai Deepak & Saurabh Kirpal argue same-sex marriage | Shoma Chaudhury @Ignition 

AND PEOPLE LIKE TO THROW TERMS.

​@@ishankanwar8411not too inaccurate TBH.

1:14:11 Now you hit Shomas nerve, she furious and her fingers are cramping.

She's like Pakistan during the US war on Afghanistan, she'll play all the sides even hers for the moolah(views)!

Bhai ye kya bol raha hai???

She's not a host look at her from 1:14:00, Saurabh was the one who saved the moderator, she turned to him whenever she ran out of gas losing an argument with Sai. If this Judge contendent would've had some mucho grande balls then we would've witnessed a very good debate between Sai and him, but alas.

​@@phaddu7737don't know what got you so high or do you normally express like that which makes no sense, ofcourse he's not the host Choma Choduary is i reckon why did she need saving it was her own questions which was being answered in the politest manner without any uncivil behaviour or tone... This calls out the hypocrisy of at best, because it effectively says I can ask questions because I'm liberal and will speak anything about anytime even with no clue but the answers I get how matter how rationale and factual they are, are against me and I'm being targeted... Definitely some lack of caliber from the custodians of freedom 🩲

@@Tendo_27 well, that's a libtard for you

​@@Tendo_27because Indian left is adopted from the us. Same template.

Sai is speaking correct English but away from context. He makes circles to answer a simple question. Why ? Hes trying to answer each question with an unnecessary bias.

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😂 Sahi mei bhai Mai to bhool hi gaya tha beech mei ki moderator kaun hai.

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Classic liberal approach, ask the question and run and hide when facts and logic is presented, meanwhile behavior a modern elite and muddle down evey bit of a community in the name of freedom and progressiveness 🤡, while you short hand seems to be short enough to not reach our your liberal prerogative to the other communities

😂😂😂😂 left has no answers for His books. They have lost mass dude

He dominated the Hindu Rashtra argument.

He is talking about it 26:00 watch from here

Haha women ☕☕☕

Who were the debaters again? J. Sai and ??

@@ven41618 😆Arre aese bhi mat karo.

So does Godi Media

@@palagirimohammadreehan3037what the hell with “godi” stuff all these names propped up after 2014 😂😂😂 you leftist wastards are Hilarious, hypocrites but hilarious 🤣🤣🤣

The cameraman bias is also there. Even the mic quality.

Accurate

Precisely. ✔️

Exactly

she was a pseudo host conducting a discussion with Sadhguru and Islamist pseudo atheist Javed Akhtar. Initially she addressed Sadhguru taughting him by his name as an act of disrespect , still Sadhguru walked into the show for the discussion throughtout the interview Shanon Christ and Javed Akhtar tried all their best to humiliate Sadhguru, the debate is going in records into the history ...now she will know how art of conversation works

​@@sanchariyogi6241She's an Islamist Appologist and Hindu Hater. I have known about her pathetic mindset and degenerate Ideology which she proudly represents

Your comment is too good👌

Comment of the year 😂

Wdym tone down his demeanor? What demeanor I mean...

😂😂😂😂💀

He's not the son of either yashwant chandrachud or dhananjay dynasty zero merit chandrachud😂😂😂😂😂.

He would a very good choice as CJI

He will not take the role of chandrachud bt of ambedkar.

No chance. His dad or uncle or granddad isn’t a juj

He is PM material.

Atleast kripal sir spoke to make people understand... Not like Deepak to confuse people with fancy words

​@@vamsidaranwow is that what moderator does all the statement sai made were to the point and can easily be understandle even for person who knows just a scrap of constitution,so if you can't able to answer you are clarifying it as fancy words 😊.😂

@@swastikjha1617 🤣🤣🤣joke of the decade.... Sai deepaks point are clear... What about hatred on religion 😂😂😂

@@vamsidaran straight forward things even looks curved or complicated when you don't have brain cells to work properly😏

@@swastikjha1617 😂😂😂Nothing like that he's just a cancer cell with spilling hatred and his hypocritical thoughts....

what about moderator she was becoming a B team of Kripal 😂

@@everythingforfun7104 I don't think so. You are seeing the debate with a narrow lens of prejudice. She was also asking some questions to Mr. Kirpal which hit the nail.

@@subhmaypatra5562riyally😅😅😅

@@everythingforfun7104she is not the B team she is the team 😂

99% of Indians don't know this foreign colonial language

One day he will be attorney general of India

He should be Law minister or chief Justice of Bharat.

Sai has no character . He’s an idiot anyway

@@PrashantShokeenShow Don't comment from Grave 😂

This feels like what is going on the left where children are being persuaded to perform gender surgery. Which is became a new normal I think these so called judicial activist want wokeness in india. Well cji chandrachud said there is no absolute concept of man or women

The irony - its you, the conservatives who brand the other side 'abnormal', (as you do in this very comment of yours). Your position is to police the other side & deny a fundamental right of theirs. And yet, YOU are the victim? And here you claim the exact opposite - that liberals are trying to brand hetro relations abronmal 🙏 wow

Bravo😂😂

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There's an entire ecosystem of left and Congress bootlickers...liberandus like Shoma C from journalism, RaghuRamR from RBI, Shyam Saran from IFS and so many are part of the the ecosystem

It happens, liberal just becomes opposition of the majority.

Thats what most liberals are...haters and hypocrites!

Thats common symptom to all urban naxals

There’s a difference between having a tinge of conservatism and celebrating a wrongdoing.

Humans have a selfish bias by default. Bias towards their own (tribe, religion, caste, nation). And have natural prejudice and paranoia of the 'other'. Liberals are self critical and speak out for the minorities and others - for the sake of justice, humanity & fairness. It doesn't make them bad, or anti national. Nor do they do it to feel superior. Conservatives speak out for their own, spread fear & paranoia of the other. And act in self interest. And end up increasing the natural inherent baises that we humans have. What will be the result? Especially right now, in the Indian context - it is not even a left vs right, OR liberal vs conservative debate any more. What we have is raging far right fanaticism.. Entire country, from top to bottom taken in by this.

harbor it and nurture it

​@@PrashantShokeenShowCry monkey

@@PrashantShokeenShow kindly elaborate what wrongdoing and celebration you are talking about

And schooled by Sai 😂

Was she moderator or came to hijacke the debate herself against Sai?

@@sarvajanhitaay she was clearly trying to put him down pretty evident

​@@sarvajanhitaayprincipal opponent camouflaging as "moderator". She hardly let speak third person.

Any surprise that you would judge her so? RW are you?

2 v 1??? Rs. 1 crore vs Rs 1 crore and 1 doesn't i make significant difference?? 😂

THEY TRY TO ASSASSINATE HIS CHARACTER BUT FAILED 😂

Good thing is majority of people saw this , which creates empathy towards Sai, It's called JP effect, remember Cathy Newman n tht G Q magazine lady went after JP which actually made him famous

Which Q? That - by opposing gay marriage, you are denying them a fundamental right. While nothing is being taken away from your if they get this right? This is the most fundamental Q! .. which he didn't or couldn't answer, despite being asked repeatedly. The arguments he gave - that 1. it is complex as it will bring in other aspects of marriage laws (like adoption, domestic violence etc) I have some sympathy with this argument. It is a valid argument. Perhaps they can come to a middle ground on these issues.

@@mrgyani the hosts deliberate attempt to make j sai look conservative and bringing up his remarks on a podcast unnecessarily without any context. Conveniently trying to put him down just when hes about to make a solid point bringing the other person into the argument etc its pretty evident if u just notice

@@mrgyani They should create their own marriage like institutions. Don't use Hindu things and Hindu marriage institutions. They very nature of Hindu marriage is between Male and Female and don't inject woke Ideology in our institutions. We don't have problem with gays and lesbian our argument is simply they should create their own institutions out of the Hindu marriage and do whatever they want.

Not always do the judges want to dirty their hands with a deep socio-political issue yet they address it to the fullest. How observant has the society been of morals and rights!? How much have political parties adhered to the judgements? The congress tried hard to overrule the judgement on maintenance of Muslim women while the BJP fumed to the point of violence over the Sabrimala judgement!! How ready are we as a society to accept them? Until then, there is no point raising a finger at the judiciary. And talk of the collegium, it has been the said collegium itself responsible for such greats such as Bhagwati, Iyer, Nariman and Katju.

@@parthivchakraborty8253 when we say I will see you in court means I will destroy you this is the reputation our courts has earned. Why it is so?

Collegium is better than NJAC!

how can this "court" legislate on social issues. the job of the court is to interpret the law in disputes but first it has to go the legislature.. always. Sai argued from all points of view including the societal and civilization perspectives. Kirpal just forcefully demanded for the "rights" for his favored community without regards to anything else. Reminds one of a certain "minority" community. Indians and Hindus are just too innocent - not too long ago it was common for young adults not to even know what heterosexual results are, forget about something like homosexuality. Kirpal gave up the game when he mentioned US and EU. Bharata is not US and EU, huzoor sahib. if you've been following world events, you know that this recently surfaced radical homosexuality is part of a western agenda to sabotage the social life and population structure of nonwestern countries. they did it once before by advocating hair brained population/abortion policies to china in the 70s. Now china is screwed. where else will a full discussion like this take place except in the parliament.

@@darkprince2490 why is there always a common thread among supporters of Sai that they will always have to be a supporter of Hindus, thus exhibiting Islamophobic tendencies. I am not talking about you. I am wondering. Indeed, I am aware of the atrocities the community has caused. To talk of law, to just confer "basic human rights" if reflection is to be made on 101 reasons as to why basic rights should not be conferred, what have we come up to as humans ?

The moderator used her classical lutyen tongue in cheek approach of showing her superior English at the beginning by calling rashtra as sastra and asking Sai to repeat certain words which she pretended she could not hear properly. It’s a shame because it was all so clear. Sai of course was not going to get intimidated by her

Agreed

​@@rashmi29753it is unfortunate that these english barking mentally colonised barbarians have been ruling this country . 99% Indians don't know this colonial unscientific language

SK was a Good Moderator 😅😅😅😂😂

JSD is damaging to the listeners . He always speaks against the idea of India enshrined in the constitution.

​@@PrashantShokeenShow🤣🤣 lol u need to listen to Sai talks again then u would understand.

@@PrashantShokeenShowdamaging? In what aspect.. to their established views - yes. But, JSD being a SC lawyer, doesn’t have the benefit to contradict the constitution. You ought to give an example first.

​@@PrashantShokeenShowwhat's the idea of India you're talking about? Selective criticism and biggottory, I suppose. You see everything from the lens of majority oppressor - minority oppressed and not the otherwise physical realities of Abharamic onslaught over Indic civilization and exceptionalism. Where was your idea of India when Sharia was given supremacy over constitution in Shaira Bano case? The draconian Waqf act & places of worship act is still very much in operational in this land. It's extremely awful to note how passive citizenary like you can do so much damage to the idea of equality and diversity under the influence of some western hypothesis - peak mental slavery! Constitution has to reflect the ideals of the people and righteousness. It's the people who enacted it and it's the will of the people that should be considered Supreme period.

​@@PrashantShokeenShowfacts doge? Ya hawa mai hagte ho?

Cry more

​@@PrashantShokeenShowso this is the ideal state of liberalism which is truly the face of fasicm and tyrannical approach towards Indic wing, as they ignore, falsify and gaslight every rational logic, facts, problem, appeal when a hindu or so to say Indic wing makes it but they want to be accepted and have the idea of accepted by the Indic wing on all their rights... Which they themselves never perform... So cherish this moment guys, this shows their true face ❤😂 and what they'll do to you.. If they come in Power.

She is crying 😂😂 ​@@PrashantShokeenShow

Unfair one, but if you call her that, she's play victim and how her freedom is being bashed and voice being squashed.. 😂

Really, what is the reason why wasn't he appointed then ??

1)Because he believes in judicial overreach. 2) because he could have been a judge in all the cases regarding sexual minorities. 3 ) their minds are western as he mentioned Brandenburg test on free speech ( which is not applicable to Indian constitution ) 4 ) he would definitely have been a pawn in leftist arsenal , giving them more power and more say in usurping the powers of legislature. It is easy to say that he wasn't chosen because of his sexuality but unfortunate for leftists , India is not USA . They are so westernised in their thinking that it would have a traction , sadly it didn't.

@@bhootbhagao5716 ❤❤❤❤🔥🔥🔥🔥👍👍👍👍👍👍

Mr. Kripal , the feudal prince of Indian Collegium Judiciary... Soooo sooo democratic judiciary that we've got. 😂😂🤣🤣

​@@bhootbhagao5716 bravo.. Agree 100% western left has destroyed societies.. Shudnt be given a position of power to turn things in their favour

She should have let SK speak or she should have used SK to counter JSD bit it need skill which not everybody can have. I am not saying soma is not capable but she overpowered by her own ideology and biases.

Also it seemed like She (host) wanted a one to one 'discussion' with Mr Sai, Mr. kirpal was invited to give her kind of company. 😊

@@bhnuc most incisive comment.. 😂

She was in love with J sai Deepak😅

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1:03:24 So the host does not seem to be aware of the fact that jsd as not homophobic. But assumed that he might be and tried to corner him into believing that is a bhakt and a sanghi. Our position is not homophobic we don't believe in bending Hinduism as per the host pleased. Just make it under special marriage act and Don't mess around with shastras and make it seem look a liberal paradise.

​@@Krishna-te8xxthan u missed th point, this entire Fiasco is directed at Hinduism to, reform it, as a Trojan to get inside, n destroy family unit n marriage institution, Thy r very well aware of special act, Very mischievous

@@Krishna-te8xx its just classical ideological viewpoint label the opposition.. becomeing a bakht or sangi is not wrong as becomeing a communist or socialist or liberal..it's just the power of the left from past 70 year they became sanghi some kind of bad lebel ... historically sanghi has cause far less distruction compare to left ..

Absolutely true. She didn't give space to Mr. Kripan in her attempt to corner J. Sai.

She earned that very generously through her bigoted actions

That's in real world like I can't when I come to your house. Viewers need to be civil & can't vocally disagree. They're there to listen and form opinions Whereas we on social media we can puke whatever we want how much ever we want. Anyways With that logic even PM can't be criticized on his channel but that ownership can't be the shield for you

Viewers had taken the Indic side perhaps 😂

​@@JohnWick-uj4ghnailed it!

she was a pseudo host conducting a discussion with Sadhguru and Islamist pseudo atheist Javed Akhtar. Initially she addressed Sadhguru taughting him by his name as an act of disrespect , still Sadhguru walked into the show for the discussion throughtout the interview Shanon Christ and Javed Akhtar tried all their best to humiliate Sadhguru, the debate is going in records into the history ...now she will know how art of conversation works

he didnt commit mistakes that Javed Akhtar did in the discussion with Sadhguru

I'm really astounded by Kirpal's faith in the judiciary when he himself accuses the judiciary of delaying his appointment to judge. " "The curious case of Saurabh Kirpal National Herald Senior lawyer Saurabh Kirpal says his appointment as a judge has been delayed 'at least since 2017' due to his homosexual orientation."

What if she wanted this debate between herself and JSD and asked SK as back up helper assistance to counter on some of point.

I saw that too😊

Can you point me to where she ever said what you are claiming? This is as blatant a misrepresentation of what she said, as can be. It's called a strawman argument, where you can't attack her directly so create a fake strawman (misrepresentation) of what the other person said, and attack it.

@@mrgyani 1:06:39 around that time she said protest should be not called such as foreign hand or anti national. Azadi slogans and jung rahegi azadi tak are very much anti national. Such JNU lot said such things also what was all about making chakka jaam and let cut NE from India. This statement is very much anti national and racist and xenophobic toward north Eastern people.

@@mrgyani I am pretty sure people like sharjeel are in jail for a reason. She said these people are not allowed to be in jail

@@mrgyani have you actually heard her or watched around that time stamp. She literally said people should not be labbeled as such things. I wonder what happened to FOE

love the reply to the point

Typical 'I don't care if he provides fact or not, I will support him'. This is called blind support.

Right... Like she was having an agenda of herself. Good that Deepak replied her the way he did

Shoma didn't give any space or time to Mr. Kripal. Instead she herself stood against J. Sai. The debate would have been fruitful if she truly played the role of moderator only. She thought she has better debating skill than Mr. Kripal.

No human with minimum humanity can be rightist

He didn't actually if he did she would be in shok her brain would HV been fried 😅

are you the same guy commenting under the video? if yes what did you mean by "taking time out for 16k wifes" on lord krishna ? did you in any manner intend to use it as a pejorative?

@@sujathavenugopal8988 what exactly do you mean by that. Are you Implying. That I said that he was indulging in obscene activities. I do not used that pejorative. My point was Krishna was king of dwarka. Constantly helping pandavas for their bad times. In this whole case I don't think he had time for 16k or even rukhmani or satyabhama for that matter. His life was sacrificed for pandavs

@@sujathavenugopal8988 I did not use that instance to degrade Krishna. I am a gujurati he is the main deity of our state along with surya we do not disrespect deity or Krishna

@@sujathavenugopal8988 What utter horseshit. That's very Abrahamic of you. Lord Krishna is our god, unlike the prophets of Abrahamic faiths who are humans & indulge in debauchery. As far as this episode is concerned, to the best of my knowledge, after rescuing those women from a demon(forgetting the name) The maidens appealed to krishna that they are social outcasts now & won't find prospective partners & they wish to marry my sweet lord, hare krishna. Therefore he made 16k clones of himself for each one of them. This ans will only be satisfactory if you are an Astik to begin with.

.k ..l..o

The debaters were really good! Can't say the same about the moderator.

Cadbury gems? 10 rupay wala?

He is the Zakir Naik of Hs.

He's a clown and must be treated as one

@@mrgyani did not know ZN practices in SC and does IPR........wah ! and by the way where is ZN ? why is he staying away from the country ?

@@muravi8167 No actually he meant Jai Sai Deepak also supports ISIS. Brother has extensively heard Jai Sai. I never knew JSD was a Osama sympathiser. 😂

😂😂😂😂scoring hattricks

In Shah Bano, Court did their part. It was the so call liberal do the bad thing. Still so call Liberal these days has no shame

The sad part is he was not given enough time or space to argue against Sai, the moderator disrupted the whole debate and ended up making a fool of herself.

But make zero sense 😂😂😂 just fancy words and concepts 😂😂😂

Sai's Ideology has not given any chances before 2014, so How about being little respectful to that. It is a shameful Liberal thinking. The so call Liberal Party of India Congress ruled on India for 60 years. Still did not given freedom for expression for Sai like ideology. LOL shame on you liberals