and still it is said in the beginning of the podcast we should not make a decision on what he says, and ask the sea of deceptive doctors. Both obviously are afraid of possible juristic consequences...
@@tomsawyer2112 Sadly that is the case. Litigation against cholesterol lowering drugs as a class, is needed. Getting someone involved like RFK Jr. who is experienced in dealing with the military industrial comolex, would be helpful? At least Prof. Tim Noakes and MD Gary Fettke had success standing up against the SDA-controlled dietary guidelines.
@@tomsawyer2112 Exactly, what a contradiction! Check out cardiologist Nadir Amir ,(hope thats right) he says in beginning. "I have NO disclaimers here" Now, you have my attention.
@@LaRoucheisright In my understanding, if you don't defer to the establishment at the beginning of whatever you write or say, you disappear from the screens. How honest of the establishment!
Thanks for the input,Dr.I try to educate myself, but I realize it's very important from whom you get your information. I see the cardiologist in a few days, we'll see how the conversation goes. She said cut out saturated fat, so I have been trying to eat less of that and stick to olive and avocado oils. Adding a few carbs back ,but I don't want to put on weight either! I did reverse my insulin resistance to insulin sensitivity now, so she did like that!!!🤣
@@jennifercaldwell7665 👍 Good on you for reversing your insulin resistance!! Unless that was addressed then None of your efforts at losing weight and keeping it off would have worked out well. I had No idea that you could bring your fasting blood sugar under control, even get your AIc at good levels, and Still have High Insulin levels!? It's NOT tested for in ordinary blood tests!🤔 It's usually only ordered when doctors can't get diabetic glucose levels down!?🤔 It sometimes takes a lot of fasting over a year, and of course eating Low Carb, to fix this issue, from what I've been able to learn.
@@jennifercaldwell7665 My cardiologist is a good doctor but he does not think out of the box, meaning he just knows how to write RX for issues. He ignores nutrition, except for what the drug company recommends, which s low fat, high carb for the most part. I've so loved getting educated by many doctors for the last 21 months.
Update, my latest LDL 200, HDL97, Tryg67; this time my dr became very upset and told me I was going to drop dead one of these days from CVD/stroke. She pushed meds again. One more time I requested a CAC test, and finally, she wrote the order. But she did prescribe something without my approval because I pick up my allergies med and this cholesterol-lowering (not statin) that actually lowers tryg with little impact on LDL. I know she thought she was having my best interest in mind, but that is simply wrong; however, I did not want to get her in trouble. Fast forward, I did my CAC test, and my result is 0 in all coronary arteries and the heart parameters are unremarkable. My risk for vascular disease shows as minimal, actually, as better than 100% of people my age (I am 66). Case closed; no more pushing cholesterol-lowering medications. Usually, I call to discuss my lab reports, this time she calls me quick to say everything was good. I guess it was hard to accept a mistake and see the patient you were harassing in the face. I am glad I stood my ground, but there might be people with high levels of chronic disease that benefit from medications. The problem is that Drs follow written standards of care that pile everybody under one umbrella. We are not copies of each other; human physiology is specific to each.
Good job on staying educated and responsible for your own welfare. It is hard to stay healthy even when you have all of the facts. I am a 63 y.o. fighting the slow growth of an older Dad body. The culprit is an M&M candy habit. My main metrics are A1C (measures glucose bound to hemoglobin) and my faithful leather belt. My A1C was 4.7% two months ago and is currently 5.4%. I am good with anything under 5% so I am reducing number of meals from 2 to 1 per day (OMAD) but I am still going to have some M&Ms (this is a first world problem...). My belt will hopefully drop a notch after a month or so of this. Will be continuing rigorous exercise for the limited blood glucose reduction as well as for brain health. Just say no to drugs (do you remember that public health message?).
Your 200 LDL (convert 5.18 mmol/L ) mine is high 6.3 😊 I also have high cholesterol which I have had for years. Might ask for a CAC test or stress tests
Did you have a CIMT? A CAC is one of two necessary tests to ensure your numbers are nothing to worry about. 🙏🏻 pls check. My SO CAC was 0 but the CIMT showed a unstable 60% blockage in his neck.
Doc immediately told me to take statins. Did research. Didn't want to take the risks and wasn't clear it would help. Stopped eating sugar. 1 year later: normal levels, best shape of my life. Now three years later: weight, numbers, health maintained easily.
My mother was on statins for years and refused to question her doctor. Her cholesterol level was around 2.5, which is extremely low, but the doctor kept pumping her with statins. Looking at the statin side effects, the only ones she didn't have were the ones that only apply to males. The side effects of the statins are actually the effects of low cholesterol. Her doctor kept giving her more and more pills to counteract the side effects. She got dementia and diabetes. More pills. Then the pills gave her ulcers. More pills. In the end she was so sick she could barely eat at all. The damn doctor killed her, through his own ignorance. My own doctor told me I should take statins because my total cholesterol was 6.3. I took the prescription and threw it in the bin. I have lost all faith in doctors and since I have a science background, I have much more faith in my own research. Low carbs, zero sugars, zero seed oils, and plenty of saturated of monounsaturated fat are working for me. The LDL hypothesis, like the saturated fat is bad hypothesis, is just plain wrong. And above the age of 60 high cholesterol is actually protective.
5’7”. 65 years old. After 6 months on a Keto diet here is the result. Following symptoms vanished Heartburn Dry flakey skin Body itching Sensing things crawling on my skin or hair. Eyes look more clear. Feeling of comfort inside my body at all times. Heart palpitation. Sleep is much more restful if I am not disturbed by whatever it may be. Always some black heads somewhere on my face.. No more zits. I don’t get cuts easily. Stronger skin. A bump, ingrown hair on my leg for years just suddenly came off. At last poof. My morning breath is not so annoying that I can’t wait to brush the sucker. I don’t feel bogged down.. Just a fresher energy. The air feels better and my mood is simply much lighter and better. I used to get light headed more often than I cared and that is gone. There was a strange, odd itch on the side of my left foot. I inherited it from my ex wife. she got it from someone else, it would appear every so often. It is no more at all. I get up less often at night to urinate. In fact I only woke up once last night. I say wow. Oh, no more bleeding gums here and there I used to get when flossing. No more back pain, neck pain especially when I get up in the morning. I tolerate cold and hot weather far better. Very interesting. Glass/shard in my elbows gone, I just don’t seem to notice any hemorrhage. Unlike before when my feet hurt after walking for a mile or two, I can walk for miles and miles without any pain whatsoever. No dandruff whatsoever. -------------------------------------------------------------------- HDL-C went from 40 to 75 Triglycerides went from 225 to 50 A1C dropped from 5.7 to 5.3. Not sure how long I have had high blood glucose. Weight loss without hardship, 210 to 165 lbs. Average blood pressure dropped from 140/90 to 120/75 ================================================= The so called bad: AS IF I CARE. Total cholesterol from 183 to 491 LDL from 104 to 350
@@alchemy1I’m really happy to read this ! I’ve been about 4-5 months on carnivore and went off my statin a couple of months ago and my new lipid panel just came in . My HDL is still a little low at 39 but higher then it was 6 months ago before carnivore on the statin . My triglycerides stayed the same in the low 90’s but my ldl went to 236 and total is 283 . Im hoping in time my HDL and Triglycerides will bring better numbers . Im down about 65 lbs so far and need to loose another 50-55 to hit my goal of 165
I’m on the low carb, no sugar, no processed pdts diet and I have low triglycerides, high Hdl and also high LDL….my primary doctor wants to put me on statins but the statins are giving me increased muscle aches! I just dropped my statin medication and feeling so much better and happier! Thank you for sharing this information and will greatly help many more people like me!😅
Tip: research exactly what cholesterol is used for in our body. If you dont eat enough cholesterol then your body will make up the difference. So your body balances the right amout of cholesterol for you. You need it to heal you need it for every hormone in your body,...........etc
I am in the same page, but I am refusing to take meds. If you dont mind, what is your cholesterol levels? Mine is CHOL - 386, Tg- 120, HDL - 57 a,d LDL 305
52:55 for cognitive effects of interfering with cholesterol production. As Diamond says, your brain needs cholesterol to make memories. And as Georgia Ede says, "The brain makes its own cholesterol. Why would it make something really bad for you? It wouldn't. It's really smart. It's a brain."
When I took the statin I tested my brain age and it had desastrours effect on my brain age. I refused it, and I am back to my young age! Started my low carb high protein diet, walking 3.9 miles a day and am back to normal!
Same for me. Statins caused a debilitating depression that impacted my quality of life, my career, everything. Forgetting to refill that drug, doing research on it (which I should have done first), and finding Dr. Paul Mason led me to keto, to all the great keto/carnivore docs on YT, and most important, to the best health of my life. Down 70lbs in 9 months, on zero meds, metabolic syndrome reversed, and my mental health, memory, engagement with life, and learning ability all restored!
@@SCORP1ONF1RE doctor will simply tell you not to believe anything from the internet... In which case watching this video was a waste of time. Just obey your doctor blindly like a dog to his master
Same here, and I have a pacemaker and had bypass surgery 7 years ago. Put the statins in the garbage 6 years ago. HFLC about 5 years ago...NEVER FELT BETTER IN MY LIFE. Was on statins for a year.....FELT LIKE SHIT.
Exactly the same with me! Refused statin, started keto, now carnivore, working daily to build core fitness and improve functional mobility. Never felt better and I just turned 70. Lost all my belly fat and went from size 12 to size 6.
@@FelixChatSpot I stopped them too. They had me on warfarin. The best blood thinner is water. Stay well hydrated. These are the things I follow: keep insulin low with a low carb diet that is 95% whole food, daily exercise, both resistance and aerobic, get as much sun exposure without sunscreen, pink Himalayan salt to taste, get quality sleep. I’m 65 now, have a pacemaker and needed bypass surgery 8 years. Hope this helps!!!!
I went low carb and intermittent fasting 2 meals. My labs at the time show my LDL 170, but my HDL 63 and Triglycerides were normal 92 with a good HDL/trigl ratio. I was however prediabetic. Fast forward, I did my labs again this month, and my A1C is fixed, no longer showing I am prediabetic. Once again she tries to prescribe me statins. These are my recent labs, LDL 173, HDL 90%, and triglycerides of 76, bp is always normal too. Once again she said, the total is higher now, I asked do you think HDL is bad a 90%, and trygly 76. "No it is actually very good, she responded. The risk ratio is actually 1.46 now. Case closed she insisted no more. All my liver and kidney, CBC, minerals are WNL. I am a happy camper, and I will continue my newfound way of managing my health with added exercise.
Your numbers are very close to Mine and the cardiologist prescribed a statin. I questioned the terrible side effects of statins and he simply said I should still take them so he wouldn’t have to see me getting heart surgery in 5 years. I’m not taking the statins and have found a new cardiologist. I’m low carb and my insulin is great!
I was put on Statins - before being on them, my LDL was 3.9 mmmo/l - My A1C was Normal, My Triglycerides were normal, My Tri/HDL ratio was less than 1 (mmo/l) - but they screamed I needed to be on statins STAT reciting risk factors taken from who knows when at the behest of who knows what!... I was not obese nor overweight 6'1 @ 185lbs. Since taking going on statins, my ALT (Liver Enzymes) doubled. My AIC went from normal to "At risk". My subsequent blood work had my ALT doubling again and my A1C creeping towards pre diabetes as well as other odd abnormalities in almost every subsequent blood work since going on the Statins. So I did some research - I could find a lot of sources with compelling arguments to not (for my scenario) be on statins. It seemed to me this Statin religion was a big pharma cash cow. I Did more research. Things got scary I'll tell ya. From what I was searching you would think articles and videos etc stating " you should be on Statins" would also be coming at me - but no. Why were there basically none of these? I did the best of my own research and I couldn't find a logical reason to be on them - my blood work (other than a lower LDL count) were screaming "somethings not right here". So, this week - in front of a new, young, "progressive" Dr. I told him, I've done research, and I have found there is not a lot of evidence that these will be beneficial for me in fact to the contrary - I dont want to be on these anymore. He looked at me with that look that says "I have to tell you - that you understand the risk of coming off them - to not have my licence suspended - but I cant disagree with you". So Im off! And I have a feeling that my liver will thank me.
Yesterday I met a younger cardiologist for a CAC scan. It turned out that this was just another screen before authorization for the scan. She looked at my lipids and said, just the the referring internist , your LDL of 217, Total Cholesterol of 310 means you need statins. I asked what about my HDL of 76 and my Triglycerides of 73 and that I’m 68 and feel great? She never got that far, she just clearly looks at LDL and TC. I asked her if she was sure I needed statins even if I hadn’t had the CT scan yet and that she had no clue what my heart status was. She pulled up some publication from the Cardiology main publication and read to me what her instructions are when someone like me sees her. She actually had to get permission for the scan referral since I wasn’t taking her advice. I am not impressed by Cardiologists with clear exceptions like Bret.
@@carmijok1 I won't take statins because of the side effects. I walk everywhere I don't want leg cramps. Or liver problems I don't want memory problems. I'm alone & I don't trust the medical profession. Then the person will still eat the same then the statin won't do any good. It's me changing how I eat & how much I eat. Then it's the ingredients they put in the food. It's not what just the food itself. They put junk in the food that makes a difference. That is why more people are becoming diabetic & obese. I f more healthy ingredients were put in what we eat there would be less problems.
I just saw this interview by chance and found it incredibly illuminating and helpful. At 75 I am heathy but have high LdL (small particle) that my cardiologist wants to treat with statins. I recently had a calcium score test at my request and the results were 1.39 which shocked my doctor who had to do some back pedaling but he is still certain as he has been for the last 7 years that I need to take statins which made me feel 'unwell' - so I stopped taking them and will never take them again. Based on this article I recognize my sweet tooth is what is getting the better of me and I also need to do resistance training so whatever sugar I do ingest has a place to go. Mechanistically this all makes sense to me. So I plan to look into the low carb diet ideas out there and give them a try. I have also listened to Dr Stephanie Seneff and recommend her RU-vid discussions on statins and anything else she decides is worth talking about. Advocating for ones own good health is not only worthwhile, it is interesting! Dr Scher, please bring Dr Diamond back for an updated conversation. Thank you!
Wow! This was a great interview and discussion. Every doctor that can prescribe a statin drug along with every cardiologist should be required to sit through this video.
I agree I 'm a walker ,& I don't want to have anything prevent me from walking. My L DL is high right now but I am doing a lot of walking. & it raised my HDL from 50 to 68 & that helps me keep off a statin.
@@jennieosborne3530 Great job improving your HDL number!! I'm almost positive that your tryclerides level is quite Low!,... right?🤔 If that's the case, then you are doing just FINE!!😉... As it's the 'Ratio' between those two lipids that truly Matters!!😊
I have seen over the past 5 years 3 different doctors who all insisted that I take statins for my high LDL and total cholesterol levels despite my low triglycerides and high HDL levels. I refused the statins. One doctor dropped me as a patient due to my refusal to take them. I no longer trust most physicians. If I break a bone or need antibiotics or treatment for some acute condition I will absolutely seek medical help but for anything else? No thanks.
September 2023: I had my yearly exam with my primary care provider (an internist MD who says he is an expert on lipidology and cholesterol) yesterday, and I told him my concerns about statins. I cited the Mayo Clinic and the National Institute of Health (USA). He said this made him angry; he compared my remarks to those of anti-vaxxers, and said that this was nonsense, coming from functional medicine practitioners, who are killing their patients by not prescribing statins. I expected him to disagree, but not to be so dismissive. Now I am looking for another primary care provider.
After 1 year on low carb: Total Cholesterol 8.7, Trig 1.0, HDL 1.7, LDL 6.5. GP wants me on a statin even with a CAC of 0. Thanks to videos like this one I can make an informed decision. And that decision is a definite NO!
Dr. Ken Barry would call that a text book low carb lipid profile. Health coach Kait in her video had similar numbers. Mine as of yesterday were 8.9, Trig 0.6, HDL 2.05, LDL 6.7.
Several older friends that took a statin had significant muscle issues. One, almost to the point of needing a wheelchair!! After he did research, went off the statin and is fully back to his active lifestyle. These are not minor side effects!
I have had very high cholesterol since 1993, therefore taken statins until February 2022 when I decided to stop them. Of course, my numbers went through the roof, November 9, 2022 my lab results were: total 635, obviously my body was still detoxing from statins and healing from years of abuse with sugar, wheat and seed oils. BUT!!! As of March 10, 2023 my total cholesterol was 236. I was amazed, I made sure it was really my report. Thrilled my body is healing! AND getting healthy. I had other great numbers, LDL went from 535 to 123, Triglycerides went from 84 to 69. HDL-C went from 76-91 . Insulin resistance
Me. I have high LDL and my sweet doctor feels so pulled in 2 directions. She ordered a scan to look for plaque in my arteries but insurance won’t pay. I was obese, high blood pressure, fibromyalgia, and a host of other ailments. Now I am near my goal weight, I work out regularly, and run/walk. All my numbers are great, feel better than my 40’s and 50’s (age 61) except for the disturbing LDL. What to do. What to do. I have decided BEFORE this interview, to continue my process. I am off all meds and plan to continue that.
A very close relative developed dementia on statins. Changed to a different cholesterol lowering drugs and dementia 90% disappeared. This is common and needs to be much more widely known.
Probably one of the most interesting talks I’ve heard on the issue of statins. I refused to go on a statin when offered by my endocrinologist when I was diagnosed with pre-diabetes. Now I’m on a low carb diet for the past 6 weeks and have lost 21 lb. My blood sugar is now a flatline with no spikes (yes I have a glucose monitor). I ate normally before I started the low carb diet and my blood sugar was spiking all over the place. I’m due to have my lipid profile checked next week. I’m already struggling to find clothes that are not too large for me. I wouldn’t be here if I was on a statin. The best way to prevent diabetes and heart disease is diet. My liver must be very happy that I’m on a low carb diet and NOT on a statin.
I’m on a low carb diet and my good cholesterol is good but doc said the bad is high. He’s asked me to take a medication called Zetia saying it is not a statin. I’ve not taken it not knowing if I really need it. He is not interested at all in knowing about Keto or anything in doing. I’ve lost 50 pounds and am off two blood pressure meds and no more horrid inflammation. I walk for an hour in my hilly neighborhood.
You don't even have to exercise. Most of the people who live into their 90's never did any strenuous exercise since they got out of high school, nor, did they watch their diet for fat intake. The cholesterol 'kings' of research cannot explain why these people live so long, if dietary fats and having high cholesterol is so deadly. IN fact, once you're over 60, you have a better chance of living longer if we have HIGH cholesterol levels. Turns out fats are necessary for many metobolic processes which keep us healthy. What isn't necessary? SUGAR. Turns out, we can live just fine, eating ZERO carbohydrates. Our body can make it's own glucose, as needed.
This is great. I had a triple bypass a month ago and of course they put me on statins. I was a fit 52 year old with no history of any illness. But my mother died of a heart attack so there's the key. My LDL was high and HDL was low with a ratio of 6. So that makes sense. I went out and got a naturopath doctor to work on fixing that and the first thing she stated was we'll work out a plan to get me off the Statin and Beta Blocker. Wish I would have known about all this 10 years ago...
I had a simiar experience 5 years ago, was put on statins by the cardiologist like it was required, and not my choice. Before leaving the hospital with 2 stents in my arteries, I had a conflict with a pissy nurse practitioner who delivered my list of prescriptions written by the cardiologist. I told her I intended to find an alternative for most of the pharmaceuticals, especially statins. She almost threatened me, saying if a patient doesn't follow the doctors orders, then their next visit might not get the same level of care. Bitch. Now the only pharmaceutical I take is baby aspirin daily. Instead of statins, I take Red Rice Yeast, which works just as well with NO other effects, side or otherwise.
@@billdickson1142 yep, since then I've found the Carnivore way of eating. 5 months now, over 40 lbs lost, and completely low-normal numbers for BP, Glucose (was diabetic, now not), and so much more is so much better now. After my heart incident, I was depressed and thinking life was going to end soon, but now I'm age 70, and feel like I'll be living a bit longer. Beef, Butter, Bacon, Eggs, and Salt is about all I eat now, with the occasional salmon or chicken meal (usually because it's all that's available at parties or restaurants), and love it. No cravings or any sort of problems. Life is good!
@@billdickson1142 LDL is in the high normal range, and from what I read it's really a bogus thing to focus on. I'm over 70 now, and my LDL SHOULD be going up. All other markets are flat normal, so no worries. I love confounding all the veggie fans. 😂
This has been my experience as well, My Doctor wanted Me to lower my Cholesterol and suggested I go on Medication, I had already started a Near Keto Diet, So I said No Thanks to that. I am near 69 years old and when I started my Journey on this diet I was 236 Lbs. and had High Blood Pressure and was on Meds to lower BP. One year later I am 190Lbs and I lowered my BP enough to lower my meds. I walk daily and train with weight 3 times a week. I now eat a low Carb, low Sugar and low Alcohol consumption. My lab work shows improvements in all levels, except my Cholesterol, which is still a little high, however I feel good, and I will never take a Statin Drug.
I believe Dr berg said cholesterol number means nothing per your health. That’s what my doctor told me as well when I was concerned about my total cholesterol number. Look it up.
I can tell you that I was put on Zocor, with no warning of any side effects. I fell into a very deep depression and my muscles ached 24/7. I had no clue that the Zocor was causing this and I started contemplating suicide. I did not want to go through the rest of my life in that kind of pain. When I stopped taking Zocor, the pain gradually disappeared. I still, to this day, 16 years later, refuse to take a statin.
I won't even go there going on a statin. I know what will happen to me. I will not be able to walk again & I walk to one hour & two hours a day. That's what raised my good cholesterol my HDL. Walking is the best thing for heart disease. Then I have to walk & take the bus everywhere. Because I can't afford to own a vehicle. & where I live I don't live near a grocery store. I will not take drugs that rot my liver out. Or cramp up my legs to where I can't walk again. Then I don't want to have memory problems. No thankyou then I quit smoking years back. I quit totally on my own then I'm working with my diet. I fill like I'm being pressured & not being allowed to go at my own pace. As far as what my numbers coming down. It takes time to get your body back to how it's suppost to. Until my LDL went up to over 200 I didn't get bothered about my cholesterol. I never had it high until I became overweight. At one time I use to be underweight. And I was healthier than I was being overweight. Because I functioned better when I was thin I had more energy & felt better. Then I was happier being thinner then I was able to eat what I wanted & not gain weight. I wish I had that back.
Wow, some people are just not sensitive to environmental changes. You are the perfect prey for the Pharma industry machine. Glad you got out it just in time.
Love this video. Anybody that studies cholesterol etc. numbers should look at my numbers, lol. I have every blood test going back 20 plus years. Cholesterol always over 300, LDL always above 200, HDL in the 50s. I'm now a 74 woman and have never taken a drug. Always refused. Been vegan for 30 years but now switching to keto because my A1C is creeping up and fasting blood sugar runs between the 90s to 115. Also noticed more tiredness so will try low carbs and maybe more meat. Granted it's not easy after just eating fruits and veggies but I don't want diabetes. Doctors of course don't want to see me since I refused their drugs.
I just had a doctor throw me off bc high cholesterol 79 yrs read woman live longer sans statins. Carnivore run two miles step race 8-12 weights and machines light weights. He was a Vegan or maybe the other plant diet . Anyway seemed very depressed was thinking I might help him ( Carnivores myself) but he dumped me. Hahaha
@@lynnwilliams5432 lol, you didn't loose much. Today's doctors are impossible to work with. Haven't seen one in 6 years. It's all drugs, drugs with them. Still struggling a little with carnivore but seeing results.
@@RU-vidr-ep5xx I don't mind you're asking. I tried keto but it was not sustainable for me. I needed more carbs. My body became to acidic from so much meat. I'm back to fully vegan but eating very very simple meals and only 2 times per day. I noticed huge improvement when I did away all oils and only use real butter and a little olive oil for salad dressing if I want some. No other oils. I also wanted myself if the natural thyroid meds I was taking for 30 years. They were not drugs but I still was told that I had to take them for the rest of my life. Well, that was not acceptable to me. Nothing happened when I slowly removed them. Still not taking anything and never will. I won't listen to anyone anymore and do what makes me feel the best. Also, eating out is not an option anymore because I feel bad afterwards. I am sure they're using something in the cooking process. Aren't you glad you asked, hahaha
When I was put on statins I had not so much aches as severe weakness in my leg muscles to the extent that I struggled with stairs and getting in and out of the car. And my doctor never even considered that I was pre-diabetic. LCHF lifestyle has reduced my risk of diabetes completely. Without statins I walk daily and hike on weekends.
I just got off phone with doc office..been on keto/IF Day 26.my LDL went up from 85 to 154..my AC1 went up 7.2 to7.9..but I've lost weight and all that severe inflammation is gone..I had to take a 6 week pain Management course ..pain pills..cortisone shots diabetic shoe inserts etc. I refused the meds he wants to give me..I can and been exercising because I'm no longer in pain..I had a stroke 6 yrs ago..tired of being on pills tired of being in pain.tore ACL years ago let it hold me back from moving.what can I take to fight this bad cholesterol without the pain from statins?
Great work Professor David Diamon! I have always ran away from medicines and resorted to natural foods because I've always thought that drug companies will always be looking at their bottom line (money). Great work Diet Doctor, by bringing Dr. Diamon to speak here so that millions can hear this.
I am 56 years old and NEVER had an LDL over 120. I DID however, have high triglycerides and lower HDL (40-44) and high insulin resistance. Low LDL and STILL had a heart attack 5 months ago. To me, it's not the LDL but stress and the metabolic issues that caused my infarction. ALL my docs would talk about is lowering my LDL post heart attack....WHICH WAS ALREADY NOT HIGH. Not ONE would talk about lowering my triglycerides, raising HDL, losing weight, or insulin resistance! I went on the recommended low fat, low sodium and took my statins. When I got my bloodwork after 3 months on THEIR diet, ALL my nunbers were worse..except my LDL. The Docs were like "great!"...only caring about LDL. Meanwhile, I gained weight, felt lightheaded all the time, couldnt sleep, fatigue, and overall unhealthy. Switched to Keto and feel FANTASTIC! LDL be damned! Im listening to my body.
I was on on a vegan diet for about 6 months after taking statins for about a decade. 6 months ago, I had a bunch of labs done and had high CRP with perfect cholesterol levels. Triglycerides were high and I was still prediabetic. I felt terrible. After weaning myself off of statins and going carnivore/ketovore with no pricessed foods, sugars, or alcohol for 5 months, I lost almost 30 lbs and 3" in the waist, feel awesome. HDL, Triglycerifes, and Trig/HDL ratio are within normal limits now. I am expecting my PCP to try to get me to go back on my statins when I go for my annual visit next week. Not a chance. I am getting my forgetful mother to cut back on her statins too.
Dr. David Diamond's nickname should be The Debunk King! He has done one of the best jobs, of all the academics that I have watched in the health space, in his various RU-vid presentations, to refute the bad epidemiology that has been used to justify the use of statins or the purported link between meat and saturated fat with chronic maladies. When anybody expresses to me their faith in the so called "evidence based" ideas around these topics, I always refer them to Dr. Diamond's lectures, and if they are intellectually honest, they immediately become a skeptic.
When I point out the inconsistencies of the lipid hypothesis findings which the statin manufacturers use to 'prove' that we need to take their products, no one can give me an answer. It always seems to come back to, 'Everybody knows', as if it's always been a given that cholesterol and other dietary fats are the cause of heart and vascular disease. It's almost like a religion, the total loss of any critical thinking to question someone's belief which is based on NOTHING.
I like this David Diamond guy. My question is not just with the statin side effects but also what if LDL is a part of our immune system for a reason and it’s presence is providing a positive arterial affect. So if you artificially lower LDL what potential damage is being caused by not letting cholesterol do it’s job.
I am really liking Dr. Diamond's approach to studies and reseach in general. I so much appreciate the insights given in this interview, and of course, major kudos to Dr. Scher for doing this interview!
Anadotal Evidence: My muscle aches on statin were so bad that I couldn’t walk around the block without stopping to rest. My doctor thought I should just deal with it. I don’t take statins anymore and I have a new doctor who also wants to push me on statin but he’s dealing with the fact I won’t take them.
Thank you very much for this information. In the past 5 months, I have gone from obese and diabetic with high BP to having lowered all my Bio-markers to a healthy level. I am now facing an aggressive push from my doctor to address my moderately high LDL with a Statin. Very frustrating but I am going to (as was pointed out in this video) continue to take my own health decisions in hand based on my successes and continue on my present nutritional Ketogenic path.
Fantastic work you're doing on this channel! Are you familiar with the book written by an ex NASA guy called Lipitor, The Memory Thief? He lost his memory and even after figuring out what was happening, his doctor STILL wanted him on statins.
Shameless MD! Terrible 😮 Apparently statins are either fat or water soluble and this REALLY MATTERS for long term brain health. The oil soluble statins (like Lipitor) can enter the brain, causing harm to brain functions like memory, concentration, focus and decision making. Water soluble statins like Crestor do not enter the brain and cause harm like Lipitor does. My MD never explained ANY of this to me, he likely didn't even know these vital facts Now on lchf (more recently carnivore eating) I have some of these best lipid numbers for my age group but I seriously doubt it even matters because my inflammatory symptoms, driven by reducing carbs/fibre etc. are driving the real, meaningful reduction in health risk The mind boggles when you can investigate and treat moderate to serious health risks yourself yet be at much greater risk of dying when you engage a western, drug pushing MD
I came here because I started the keto diet about 3 weeks ago with the goal of lowering my BG levels, loosing weight, and getting off of Metformin, Ozempic, Crestor, and hopefully 2 BP meds. My BG is down from 300 to around 125. lost 22lbs, and decided I am not taking the Crestor anymore. My last 2 labs had my HDL, LDL, and Try in the normal range and this was while I was no on low carb. Things can only get better, in my opinion, with the keto diet. Wrting this background makes me realize how much of a mess I created. This was an absolutely excellent discussion that was actually captivating to listen to as a non-medically trained person, but can appreciate as an Engineer trained in the scientific method.
Super excited to find this video. I have been a low-carb person naturally since I was a kid, and my cholesterol is aways boarderline high. After some weight loss (underweight bmi 16.5 right now) due to the GRED problem, I cut off more carbs since sugar causes reflux issues for me. The most recent lipid test is TG 79, HDL 114, LDL 183, Total 313. My doctor is seriously worried, and wants to prescribe statins. I do not want to take it since I think the current diet keep my GRED under control, and I do not have any other abnormal numbers except for this cholesterol thing. I guess now I can find peace since now I have a reason for my “weird” lipid numbers.
Request a CAC (coronary artery calcification test). You probably have to pay out of pocket. It is not really that expensive, and it will give you peace of mind knowing your risk and making the best decisions. I did that and MD stopped forcefully trying to give me meds.
So amazing!! Thank you! Excellent info and great questions Dr. Scher! My husband has FH and has been confused about what meds to ask his doc about letting go of. Especially since he has been on a strict low carb lifestyle after his 3rd heart attack two months ago. He has been on a Statin and a plethora of meds for 8 yrs and has had no change in his arteries or heart function. In fact he has a 100% blockage in the same artery with blockages in 2 other arteries as well. We are excited that we are armed with better understanding! Thank you again!
This is outstanding. I am listening to it in February 2023 and if anything it is even more relevant today than it was when they discussed originally. So many more people have come around to this way of thinking. Great stuff very helpful
What is FH? I’m on keto with 150 LDL 35 triglycerides and 90 HDLs. My doctor is ringing alarm bells. I have no other risk factors. Thank you for this great video.
Clearly Dr. Brett was having fun in this conversation. Even though I did not understand most of it, you both made it sound very interesting. I need to and want to understand better and will watch this again many times. Its in my research file! Thanks Diet Doctor.
I just got my worst medical test result ever: 337 CAC score (which one med website claims gives my 61-yr old body the arteries of an 83-yr old). I have busted my butt for 40 yrs to be healthy (regular exercise and following recommended diets). In 1980, I drank the koolaide and became a vegan for 34 yrs. Two yrs ago, I had an epiphany and went keto/carnivore. Lost 30 lbs and never felt better/stronger. It brought me back to my football weight in 1977. My thinking/memory are much improved. Blood pressure has gone way down. My HDL/triglyceride ratio is excellent (0.68). But my LDL is 228 (2x what it was 2 yrs ago). My doc (who totally gets it regarding keto, dietary fat, cholesterol, etc.) has prescribed baby aspirin and Crestor statin after seeing my CAC score, and cautions against strenuous exercise. In addition, a keto friend advises I get off saturated fats & high cholesterol foods (meat, eggs). I am stumped. Do I resist taking Crestor statin? Do I get off carnivore and eggs and saturated fat to reduce cholesterol? Do I take magnesium, K2, D3, and IP-6 to fight arterial calcification? Do I assume I will always have a high CAC score and am fated to die soon from heart disease? I now believe - with great resentment - that vegetarian and low-fat crusaders sold me a bill of goods that I bought hook, line, and sinker. Forty years of working hard to be healthy has left me with 83-year old arteries because the extremely high carb/sugar load I was consuming for 34 years caused severe damage to my arteries. How ironic.
Been trying to change Cardiologist training/ understanding for 20 years. They're more interested in buying their' next rental home...than helping people.
Damaged LDL seems to be the problem. Dr Paul Mason argues that glycolated or damaged LDL can’t be absorbed back into the liver because the LDL receptors won’t recognise damaged LDL. Damaged LDL then enters into the wall of arteries by breaking down the protein bonds of the artery walls and builds up in the walls, narrowing the arteries and causing cardiac events. He strongly argues that it is damaged LDL that contributes to the problem. The root cause is inflammation - sugar and seed oils and other environmental factors.
That would make sense as seed is are in everything just check labels, and use cold pressed, ,and make y own it's easy eggs and vigin oils tomatoe ,,,passata and bit sugar and spices ect it dosnt cause rips in you're veins,, you're worth it,,,
Seed oils are in almost everything used for cheapness,,, if we dint buy they will change them and cut down on sugar,,, that's the worst, ,,,shame but wanna be healthy
THANK YOU for this honesty. I have actually known several people who experienced major negative side effects from statins. ( Probably because I was aware of them) truly life- altering and quite COMMON.
I hope many Dr can read and listen to what Dr. Diamond says. Thank You Doc!! My Dr. want to put me on a statin however my CAC is 0 I just had this result last month. I am happy.
I stopped taking my statin bc of the muscle pains in my thighs were so severe that I couldn’t walk for more than a mile without needing rest. It wasn’t in my mind bc I didn’t know statins caused this, my doctor told me it was the cause yet wanted me to stay on the statin. No thanks.
Two years later, still an excellent talk. Thank you so much for your wealth of information. I agree with almost everything you said regarding satins and LCHF in the context of colesterolul hypothesis.
@@kathygann1180 Indeed. Most of them does not understand anything, they do not even think the have been lied. The minority that know the truth does resume themselves to the "Pharmakia" benefits.
Thank you! I am very low carb, almost totally carnivore. My vldl is sky high after going very low carb, I am told it is FH. I tried statin - high dose, and the adverse effects were severe. I was told there would be no adverse effects, only nocebos happen. I had both mental and physical severe side effects. I am now afraid to try any other statin. I have a horse in this race. Thank you for the information.
James Luker, there is the TRANSCRIPT enabled already in this VID also. Press the "Three DOTs" (horizontally) on the right-hand side of Date of this VID. Then press TRANSCRIPT to be open on the top right-side corner of your screen, fyr.
I will appreciate the exact reference to the article Dr Diamond mentioned in the talk that was published some years ago in BMJ open about a meta-analysis.
I have been given statins many times. I always refuse to take them. I have been keto 3 months so I will be interested in what the new numbers will say.
While I understand what might be the legal reasons for doing so the caution at the binning of this video emphasizes the importance of consulting with and presumably following the advice of, your family physician is unhelpful. It is widely recognized in the LCHF community that most doctors are simply uninformed when it comes to the current information and research relating to LCHF. If I followed my doctor's advice I would still be taking multiple drugs for diabetes, cholesterol, hypertension and have all of the negative o side effects of these drugs. If the only way we can adopt the LCHF diet is to persuade our doctors that we know more about this than they do, then it seems we a doomed to continue with poor outcomes. I wish that you and others who routinely give this caution might give more thought to how one should consider this advice.
So true, they are no longer help when it comes to a person health. They practice "defensive medicine", not to make you healthy, but for them not to get sued.
Do you think your CAD diagnosis was due to the amount of natural sugars in fruits you consumed? Have you changed your way or eating? If so, in what way? Has your health improved including labs? I think people can benefit from your information.
@@KM-os8lb I do not believe the CAD is due to diet. In my case it’s hereditary. I do believe I will eventually die from heart failure, but I am fighting as best I can with diet, exercise and avoiding doctors and treatments. My beliefs is simple; we are all going to die, so make the most of living whir you can.
I am a 65 man who had an ischemic stroke 5 months ago. I was immediately put on 80 MG atorvastatin, which l willingly took because my ldl and triglycerides were high, and i didn't want to have another stroke. I have since mostly recovered from my vision problems and extreme fatigue, but have developed such pain in both shoulders that I am taking as many as 9 extra strength Tylenol a day to try and function. My sleep was disrupted by such feelings of anxiety and hopelessness that l cut back to only taking the Atorvastatin every other day. Those symptoms improved enough that I noticed a real change after a few days. I told my doctor, and he obviously wasn't impressed, so l went back to every night. By the fourth night, my shoulder pain is nearly unbearable, and my anxiety has returned with a vengeance. I feel I need to cut back or get off this atorvastatin altogether. The doctor basically made me feel like I was imagining these side effects. I am concentrating on losing more weight. I am 6'2" and weigh 230. Twenty years ago, l weighed 190, and my intention is to get back there. Any ideas would be appreciated.
If you start a Low Carb High Healthy Fat diet your tryclerides Will start to Drop! Your HDL will rise! Also incorporate Intermittent fasting every day. Lots of info and videos on this on RU-vid! Taking that much Tylenol every day is very Toxic to the body and it's organs!
Also change doctors!! This doctor seems like a steel freaking wall. Find a good doctor that you can communicate with! Someone who will listen to what you are saying about your own experience with symptoms and not dismiss you like your imagining the crap!!
@ GM Haywood, I live in the country where my doctor choice is very limited. I have quit the atorvastatin completely and have done nothing but feel better ever since.
@@allanwheale5392 Good Deal!!😉 Statins can be so very toxic and hard on the body! Did you also get put on a blood thinner? As I am assuming that your stroke was caused by a blood clot in your brain?🤔
Too much credit given here to pharma companies. Costs of their studies would be subtractable from taxes; as is any pay-outs due to litigation and in support of polititians? They have been caught out repeatedly to be ignoring data that does not suit their agenda. It does not make sense to trust them. There should in fact be laws against them conducting any trial, and direct marketting to the public via mass media should not be allowed. Anyway, to be paying attention to pharma company studies, is a waste of time and energy. Their aim is to divert attention away from what truly matters. A fox with a megaphone in the hen house cannot be taken seriously.
Good discussion. Please do a follow-up on the risks and benefits of quitting statins for those of us who "asked our doctor" years or decades ago and are now on statins? Do you realize how hard it is to find ANY discussion about quitting statins?
I just found out that the ldl number in a blood test is calculated using the Friedewald formula which works so that the higher your triglyceride number the lower your ldl number. Since a high triglyceride number is bad how does this make any sense?
in 'wheat belly total health', dr william davis discusses the issue you mention about the Friedewald equation, roughly that under a low carb high healthy fat or keto diet which is devoid of the "modern" hybridized wheat and certain other hurtful grains (on NET EFFECT BASIS), the assumptions of the friedewald formula and calculation are no longer valid and makes the calculation not of use, including the total chol # which under that nutrition lifestyle he finds useless. Parts 1 and 3 of his audiobook i have studied profusely on youtube and i now have purchased the used book for complete mastery.
He would loose his bennies from the drug companies and set himself up for trial lawyers for not following care standards. Might also lose patients who always want some kind of pill or else they will feel like they were not treated.
