LE LO Pronouns. Gordon Throws a Tantrum LightSpeed Spanish 

Bloody brilliant! It's 6am, I'm studying a bit & I'm already smiling. Go & get yourself a coffee... You've earned it.

Hello from Calgary! You nailed it Gordan! Shines some light on the reasons for the success of Michel Thomas. He shared your contempt of the over-complicated terminology, and didn't overload students with irrelevant information. When you and Cynthia teach, it's very easy-listening stuff; no heaps of grammatical terminology, you keep everything light and it's all very easy to relate to. Love you guys! Michael

Muchas gracias. You won me over with the "rant". Been trying to learn Spanish with a phone app and RU-vid videos, but your take on the hurdles to learning a language being increased by having to digest the "haute grammer" is SO spot on.

I certainly agree that there is a certain elitist and non-learner-friendly component in the jargon of many disciplines (whether its chemistry or linguistics). And I agree that language-learners should learn the way that best helps them. However, it is important to understand that, in linguistics, these technical terms exist because not all languages function the same or convey concepts equally. For example, Basque (another Spanish language) uses "ergative markers" and "mesoclisis" in order to convey the same concept as direct and indirect pronouns do in English or Spanish. Since Basque is such a radically-different language than either English or Spanish, it would be impossible to convey the exact meaning of its ergatives into English by using this method. In essence, these terms were designed to aid linguists in analyzing and studying languages rather than in helping learners learn. BTW, the "perfect" is from Latin "per" ("for" in Spanish por) and "factus" ("done" in Spanish hecho). So in Latin it sort of makes sense (it is the "done" tense, the "hecho" tense because it implies the thing was "done" during sometime in the past). :)

Not only do I completely agree with your "rant", but your oh so logical new names for the tenses helped me to FINALLY understand them (after months of trying)! Just like that. Amazing. Thank you so much ❤️

So glad I have found your site. Your teaching style is great. Wonderful to find somebody that can explain things SIMPLY - thanks!

OMG Gordon this is priceless. I just found your channel and recently bought your book Perfecting the Past and you are helping me so much. This video had me laughing and learning at the same time. It's definitely a keeper video. Thank you for thinking like a "normal" person and making it a little easier for us non-scholar types.

Vine, vi, vencí el pretérito. You’re right, Gordon. American schools stopped teaching grammar around 1965.

Excellent teaching! You are hilarious, Gordon! Thank you guys

I love love love your application and teaching methods. It helps me to remember the rules. Thank you for sharing your talents.

At times we need to throw tantrum to be able to emphasize our great ideas. "Rebelling" the rules, you Sire Gordon are practically helping us beginners of the spanish language find the easier route. In my country, English is not the native tongue,but I personnally find it easier to learn.There's just too many lo la les to memorize in espanol,but thats challenging me all the more: to study (espanol).I love it actually. Thanx for ur FREE help,jajajajaj! More power to both you and Cynthia!

"Lola" is a very direct girl. This is how I try to keep it in mind. ;) If it is not Lola, it's indirect. Great explanation by the way, as usual. :)

Amen, brother! I have four kids, and all of them communicated beautifully in our native language (English) before they ever began diagramming sentences and identifying each part of their language with technically correct, albeit confusing, terms. Thank you for clarifying the art of learning the Spanish language!

In Germany my daughter who is 8 is learning grammar rules already. She has for example come home with homework to identify nouns, verbs or adjectives in a text and underline in different colours. I was surprised that my British husband didn't know much about it, obviously this is normal for Britain. I guess German has a more complicated grammar so here we just learn it in the German lessons along with spelling and so on and I have to say I don't have a problem to understand the ideas and terminology of the grammar rules in Spanish. Remembering it is another matter...

In England grammar is not taught to such an old age and in so much depth (at least not in the schools I went to). I grew up not knowing more than past, present and future. Only since doing a TEFL course and coming to Spain am I learning about all these other tenses!! Obviously I use them all the time but I've never looked into the language so much. In Spain everyone seems to pretty hot on their grammar. And I've been told many times that it's very unusual for a native Spanish speaker to make grammatical mistakes ever while writing or speaking.

que video perfecto. Muchas gracias Gordon! Look forward to next video!

I watched this video a long time ago but it didn't really sink in until recently and I only had a "so-so" grasp on the difference between preterite and imperfect. It took a while but now it completely has clicked in my head! Thanks for breaking it down into much simpler terms. Your videos are excellent.

Well, than you have declensions and cases like disjunctive, perlative, ellative etc. And verbs, oh god, you've got voices (like active, passive, incoative and terminative), tenses (like present, pluperfect, future perfect) and moods. Tons and tons of moods like indicative, subjunctive, jussive and even such things like ADMIRATIVE. I DO AGREE WITH YOU.

I've watched a few of your videos, they're so helpfull! :)

OMG! That is brilliant! I just may learn them now. Thanks Gordon your a genius!

It wasn't until mid 2nd year in Spanish that I realized what verbs, adjectives, and adverbs were compared to in English.

I have to share this with my husband! He hate all the stupid names of tenses...and they don't even stuck to the same names.

Yes yes yes! all those tenses have definitely stunted by progression, it made it very frustrating.

Excellent

Totally agree with this video. Always hated trying to learn the names of different types of text. Think people with Language degrees needs them to pass their exams .

P.s. I really enjoy your videos!

That was great! Very helpful insight. Thank you!

I have a question which might not be very related to your video. Can you tell us the most important tenses in Spanish. I know that my question might not be fair and logical. However, as a new learner, I would like to know the tenses which I have to focus on at first. And I am talking about the tenses from a conjugation point of view--- if that is even a correct sentence. You know there are so many tenses in Spanish and unlike English most tenses have their own conjugations. Any help ?

I sometimes get confused with placement "Te", "Me", "Le", "Les", "Nos", "Se",when placing them in a sentence. I know how to place Me, Te, Le,Les, Nos, in I guess present perfect Simple Like " I need to by her a gift" Necesito Comparle un regarlo", or "Thanks for helping me "Gracias por ayudarme" , but I have problems with using the pronouns in Simple Present for example I always have issues placing "Me" in a sentence like "You can help me", "usted me puede ayudar" I never no where to put the "me" in other pronouns in direct statements.

I love it!

So, you're a Grammarian Conspiracy theorist, eh! That was so funny, and so true. It reminded me of Michel Thomas and his Wing Tense... was(ing) and were(ing). ;-)

you might want to look into making an app for phones. I'm sure you can find some one, pay them a couple of bob and arrange for payment for your work, your an amazing teacher bless, I appreciate you teaching your skill, the world is better when everyone understands one another, if not an app, perhaps a fb group, gracias por su amaviladad e tiempo, Dios de bendiga

Another great clip.... now my spanish will start to improve. Gracias.

Imperfect tense Michael Thomas called it the wing tense Was. ing Were. Ing Because there's usually a was doing something or we're doing something or used to do something It helped me but not as much as you're videos do Muchas gracias 😊

Excellent Gordon, you've just changed the world! As we speak a million publishers are changing every book of grammar ever written ... Well, maybe. They may try to still your voice and censor your radical views. Sonrisa. God bless ... Dios té bendiga ...

can I call it the Chuckle Brothers list?

I would like to add three other reasons to throw a tantrum: Textbooks frequently say there are two past tenses in Spanish Nuts! There are three (not counting subjunctives) -Preterits, Imperfects and Perfects Also some textbooks lump the Present Perfect in with the Present Tense when it is a Past Tense Perfect. Why do texts fail to mention there are 6 different ways to express the future?

Way to go Gordon!! Tell it like it is!! I love the approach!!

Good. I don't even understand English grammar and I have to admit Spanish grammar has been a massive obstacle for me. Will need to watch this a few more times......

muchas gracias, Gordon, I hope I got it ... finally le he comprendido finalmente ¿correcto?

You get my vote, mate

Buenos días Gordon and cythina. Where's that wife of yours. Anyway I am studying Spanish and I find light speed great. My only problem is I study alone and I get lost finding my way from one lesson to the next and end up all over the place. For example today I watched a clip on pronouns and you ended by saying in my next lesson we will continue and then I lost track. Other than this I enjoy your lessons and you laid back approach and your wit. There has to be some Irish blood in there somewhere jajaja.

I suppose you could call the indirect object pronouns the chuckle brothers list.

Thankyou Gordon another great understandable video.

brilliant ...at last someone debunking all the jargon thanks ....great videos

THANK YOU! This is a wonderful idea :-)

What a great video.

i wish i could speak it without thinking. everything i hear i have to process :l

Why is it "nunca le he quedado mal" but "nunca la he decepcionado"? Or is it nunca la he quedado mal?

I've watched so many of your videos and this one is the absolute best. I HATE I.O.P/D.O....gah! Thanks Gordon.

Love Gordon !

Good lord, Gordon, I've always felt this way. Muchisimas gracias!

Gosh, Gordon. I so agree with you.

Gracias por el video el gordons. Tienes razón, es mas facil para aprender los títulos después de tu explicación.

did you say taking the micky out of Le LO..!

Love

I read a text in Spanish, but still get hung up on the "le." I guest it takes practice. there's no other way around it. here's an example, "A Jordan le encanto ese libro." Can we just not use the le in this sentences. By the way, I really enjoy the video on your version of por and para a lot. Even though I got it down, I still refer back to that video.. Thanks for your help

I think people try to learn all the whys and wherefores too quickly when they should just be listening to and repeating the words. Yes, too many rules too soon get in the way....

You are soooo funny!! 😂😂😂

So basic that it is frigging genius.

Se lo he entendido (a Usted = se = le) / (lo = it) ??????

Gracias otra vez, Gordon!

that was a very "controlled" tantrum, thanks Gordon, ;)

100% agree with you Gordon! I haaate those words, all of them, and I think that's why I really hate learning grammar and tend to spend more time memorizing phrases and watching TV/listening to and repeating natural speech. Which helps a lot with my understanding, pronunciation and conversational Spanish, but really means my writing suffers. When I was (trying) to learn German I remember having to learn all this "Dative, genetive, accusative" crap and honestly...I just wanted to throw my books at the wall. So many thanks for offering simple alternatives, even if I am a little late to this video haha.

The 20% are teachers. Jajajaja

Knowledge is indeed power. This is why Donnie Trump has such expensive electricity bills...

Im always suspicious of people who use unnecessarily long words (or make up new ones). They are usually yep their own ****

It's worse! Because you find that English teachers have two different names for the Spanish tenses and when you get a Spanish professor he/she also has two different Spanish names for each tense! The more technical the prof gets (when all past tenses are preterite............) you can take preterite to mean past and (from your example) the present perfect in English becomes the preterito perfecto in Spanish! I would council that all teachers use the Spanish technical descriptions. They are in fact less confusing and everyone would be talking the same language (or at least the same three languages English, Spanish and Spanish conjugation as opposed to six - English, English grammar names, English names for Spanish grammar, Spanish simple names for Spanish grammar and Spanish technical names for Spanish grammar).Confused - we all are!

Ah, a good tantrum now and again never did no one no harm. Listen, when I were young - 12 years old to be precise - me Latin teacher used to come up behind me and pinch me back or neck or pull my ear extremely aggressively if I were not actually writing the moment he walked past my desk. Really! So, we 'ad it tough. Now, try telling that to the younger generation, and they will never believe ye.

Native Speakers of English and Persian are both suffering from not having a comprehensible terminology for grammar of their languages.

This was hilarious.

The mask is off now 🤠

Estoy contigo, Quién en el mundo puso esos estúpidos nombres a los tiempos ... Me confundo aún siendo nativa.

Gordon....At one time I thought you're gonna pop a vein in hour head ...lol...I can see your aggravation..great video though.

How can you learn a foreign language if you can't even tell the difference between noun, verb and adjective? It seems to me that Gordon's stance is one that reflects the' problem Anglos have with grammar. If 80 per cent of English speakers don't know basic grammar, it's their fault. It doesn't mean the rest of the world has to dumb down to accommodate them. Just my opinion, of course.