Curious to know if he was still doing wrong or something that happened years ago. I will remember Mike for all the good and all the sacrifice he poured into this ministry. Not for mistakes he made. So thankful for the Blood of Jesus, and His forgiveness.
Jane Doe claimed she came out with her story recently, because she discovered new girls were still being groomed, including paying for their private apartments. There are audio tapes and emails (including an email sent by Bickle to Doe's husband) available. Clearly, the board didn't suddenly distance themselves from Bickle , saying he is permanently out, for nothing. His story is falling apart. Nobody wants to run cover for him anymore. Again, I loved his teachings, but he's not an idol to me. @@angelhart2820
Thank you angelhart. I know Mike and also honor ALL the sacrifice poured into the ministry. Too bad I dont know the "victims." Hussy's, honorable believers? Probably both types. Donna/John Edwards of ihopkc took an affidavit, one of the so called victims account was questionable
Many Women are so fickled. Not all but many women are hormonal. It always takes both the man and the woman to sin. Unless someone was raped. I wonder why they aren’t looking at the women. Their names should be released. God knows who they are. Christians I’m sure. Whether he’s guilty or not it takes two to tango. Remember Jesus was crucified by the church.
I’m very sorry to hear this. I loved my time at ihop and Stuart’s teachings really touched my heart. I’m praying for everyone who is affected in these difficult times.
I have no words. I love ihop kc did an internship their and have been directly affected. I am so sad. And lost. I keep telling myself why, what , were, and how. And i know their will be time before answers come. I understand we are followers of God not men or women. But have built my view of intimacy, a bride and bridegroom prospective, and how i apoach every relationship in my life to teachings i recived at ihop kc. They have been hard standards to uphold yes. But i have come to where im ok with it just being me and God. I have chosen to hold onto that. But it hurts more then i can describe. It makes the pain of my strugles that much harder. In seperating myself from the world and many others. I know i chose how i live but it hurts still. Please let all this be false accusations. I understand if something happened years and years ago. Forgiveness is always on the cards. And though i forgive the pain i have faced i still desperately pray for understanding. Thank you and God bless.
Bless you Eric. This has not been easy and I am sure more difficult days are ahead. Your faithfulness while having your own character attacked has not gone unnoticed. Bless you and may you, your family and friends find time to celebrate the birth of our Lord! Peace to you and yours Brother Eric! Praying for you and appreciate your example as a follower of Jesus! Brotherly ❤!
thank you Eric for all you have done to help IHOP KC navigate this crisis. Praying for the hearts of the leaders who were being criticized, it seemed, from all sides, but were doing their best to respond wisely and judiciously to this fiery trial. May the Lord give them peace and rest from it all.
Thank you for the truth! Now a new beginning is possible! It is like a Christmas gift. God will help everyone, the victims, the IHOP family, the Bickle family and Mike. Blessings!
Yes indeed we are saddened, but we are also mature enough to know that any outstanding ministry will have it's fair share of subtle yet very dangerous attacks. That is why intercessors are a key element in such ministry: they are a tremendous shielding force when they know their Divine duties. We are also aware of a Jezebel and a Delilah spirit that follow closely on the heels of anointed ministry; they must never be taken lightly, they have crashed many Samson's and scuttled many Elijah's in our midst. We pray that brokenness and humility and an opportunity for repentance, forgiveness to be deeply expressed among members rather than resignations unless it is a matter of appropriateness. We love IHOPKC deeply for not shying away from openly addressing this difficult yet not uncommon phenomenon. Yes, walk in the light where others have preferred easier routes of cover up or simply breaking up with unforgiveness, unrepentant attitudes. May Yahweh help and heal your very important international ministry: we stand with you. Amen from Uganda, The Africans. 🕊️🇺🇬✝️💗🛐🇺🇲
Jesus is not only shining a light in the dark corners of the church, He's also flipping tables. Besides Bickle, those who covered for his behavior for years also need to go. For anyone who assumes I dislike IHOP, you're wrong. I've loved IHOP, and Bickle's teachings, for years. But this crap within the church has got to stop!
@@markwolf7547a women came to him complaining of sexual abuse and he BLAMED the victims and sided with the abusers. One woman claimed she was raped but Greaves blamed the victim. He seems really messed up. I loved ihopkc and even sides w Buckle until I read the victims’ reports. The whole thing is a train wreck.
I have NO stones to cast... The Word says , Jesus did not entrust Himself to them because He knew what was in ALL men; David fell into adultery, murder and deceit and did NOT confess or repent until confronted by the prophet Nathan, and even today we say that "David was a man after God's own heart." I am NOT saying we are to let sin go by without consequences. All sin will bring consequences with death and destruction! But Father God has taught me to love, pray and keep my eyes on Him. Prayers for ALL involved!
Father, help us! Forgive us for not praying for our leaders as we ought. Forgive us for not taking a stand and holding our ground against evil. Forgive us for not fearing you as we ought. Forgive us for allowing you to become a familiar stranger. We're asking for healing for all the jane does and the entire global ihop family from defilment. We're asking for removal of anyone who failed to protect the sheep physically and spiritually.. Papa we're asking for a spirit of repentance to fall on all of us. We're asking for a hunger and thirst and not letting go of holiness
@@dianeanderson7 enjoy your cheap entertainment. Also you might look up Rick Joyner saying that if you have a right spirit you can take the mark of the beast. Bickle is surrounded by the ghouls at Morningstar. FYI-> your in a cult🧟🧌
This ministry has blessed me tremendously! Was a game changer for me and my family! My daughter lived there for a few years and also worked at the coffee shop at the prayer room. I will FOREVER be grateful for the greatness and good things that I knew IHOP-KC has done. I am also glad this darkness has been illuminated and dealt with so we can see healing and restoration of victims and all involved move towards the destiny that God has in store. IHOP will always be near to my heart and prayers. 🫶🏻✨🔥 It still is all about a wedding. 👰♀️
Praying for IHOPKC - the leaders, all who gather to pray, May the flames of prayer rise unhindered by spot or wrinkle. A high calling indeed, may all who enter walk closely and dearly with God, able to resist temptation as it seeks to weaken this precious ministry. blessings.
I believe that some people who were at IHOP worked 50, 60, sometimes 70 hrs a week. When people burn the candle at both ends, they get burned out. I am not only praying for those who are still at IHOPKC, but encourage people there to take care of yourself mentally, emotionally, physically, and spiritually. If people do not take care of themselves, they become targets for the enemy. I pray that you can find a permanent Director for IHOP-KC, a Godly man who loves the Lord and is committed to praying for the nations, praying for the Church, and praying for the people of Kansas City.
Isaiah 56:7; Ma 11:17; Revelation 22:17. Praying for IHOP. & the thousands who have expressed their faith and love for Christ through radical prayer & worship. May He strengthen His beloved in their inner being. Worship through the rain! Pray on. He is worthy. He is worthy. 🙏👆💪🔥
I am very very very saddened by these words I have Loved Mike Bickles teachings for years and assumed he lived the life he preached but apparently he has faltered in some areas I have sins too but will press onto the Spirit to live a pure holy life of Right Love for Jesus and others
Was Stuart resigning because there is allegations to him or because he felt remorse for how he handled this? Genuine question… not here to bash or hear anyone’s boasting just answer the question with humility if you could please?
I honestly don't think it's either of those choices, however I do not know them personally, or have any additional knowledge than the public has. I would like to add the choice that he possibly stepped down because he doesn't agree with the full removal of Mike, or doesn't agree with the direction that IHOPKC is positioned to go in. No matter the reason, I continue to pray for all involved, but more earnestly pray that God would be glorified in the truth.
I agree. I think he doesn't agree with how it's being handled. And quite possibly it's a set up to Mike in general. Do we not have wolves in the church set to destroy God's people. We are naive if we don't think so.
With this finding I honestly have no idea how anyone could feel that Mike was treated unfairly. Whenever you have an independent investigator basically convict you of wrong doing, there is no wiggle room. Now, if this is something squarely on the fact of what was don’t 20+ years ago that is one thing but if the issues went on decades then you have a problem.
Why wait another day when tomorrow may not come. Why wait another moment when the moment is now. Today is time for freedom. Today is time to obey. Forgive me for my excuses and delay today is time. I lay it all down. Consume my sacrifice. Consume my sin. Set my heart free. Today is time for freedom. Today is time to obey. Forgive me for my excuses and delay. Today is time. .......... I wrote this song this week as a prayer of repentance to Jesus and I hope it ministers and it's my prayer and when I sing it I'll be praying for you all as well.
I would imagine that there has been 24/7 prayer and praise going on for decades, through the church worldwide. When we are sleeping here, the Christians in China are praying and worshiping. Millions all around the globe 24/7 somewhere on earth. We don't need ihopkc to do what is already forever being done.
This is so heartbreaking in so many ways as many have stated. I wonder why this had to be public after so many years. What happened to the people who jumped on the wagon then wouldn't speak? Is this Jezebel? Didn't Mike repent of this long ago? I have more questions than anything. I know he said don't defend him and I agree but every public statement brings more questions. This is still murky.
I am so sorry to hear all this. It sounds like it is being handled in the appropriate manner. Not enough can be said for, "dying to the flesh" and being cognizant of the snares of the devil. May something good come out of all this as your good work for the Lord should continue and that God be glorified and souls be saved.
This seems to be a step in the right direction, but where is the CHRISTIAN third party impartial investigation agreed to by both IHOP-KC and the Advocates' group?? Why keep everyone waiting. Let the Biblical process of 1 Corinthians 6:1-11 start and let the healing begin. Let us pray ❤
What is wrong with people like you?! ITS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS! Get a life. Go get saved for real and help people find Jesus in your local community. GOD GOT THIS! The End.
Public ministry is everyone's business, especially with SA abuse and possibly criminal activities. Let us pray for all darkness to continue to be exposed into His glorious light that we may learn to truly love as Christ loves us.
What a thing to tell us all two days before Christmas. I dislike the way the entire situation has been handled from start to now. It makes me want to move away from ihop where I once thought God was at the center.
I thought they were going to wait for the enquiry, now suddenly taking action? Why did stuart step down ? Was it in support of Mike n that he did not agree to him being taken out. Why permanent removal? Gal says we should always Restore even if they have sinned? Lord raise ur servant up as a mighty apostle in these last days as u promised! 🙏
From the beginning iHop has asked for a focus on fasting, prayer and resistance to gossip. Good start and thus far the comms have bee good. This, however, is concerning. Combining Stuart's departure along with permanent disconnection with Mike is wrong. It makes people gossip and leaving this out there is irresponsible. I have been a part of different houses of prayer for the last decade or so and love the things God has been doing. I will continue to do as asked but this announcement does not make this easy and for those less connected to the church, impossible.
May we find comfort in our faith, draw strength from one another, and move forward with love, grace, and determination. In the face of adversity, we must come together as a community and support one another. Let us extend our love, understanding, and forgiveness to those affected by this situation. Together, we can heal, grow, and rebuild our church in a way that reflects the values we hold dear. Remember, it is during the darkest times that the light shines the brightest. Let us hold on to hope and trust that, with time, healing and restoration will come. Our church is strong, and we will emerge from this stronger and more resilient than ever before.
You're all thinking too much about Mike Bikel, he knows better, he knew the word, what it says in James 3:1 ??! And not enough of the victims who went to him for spiritual help and he took advantage of them. This is the reality of it all. It also damages many reputations. And a very bad witness.😮😮
This is crucial time for Israel's supernatural providence and protection. Questioning the broader timing of all these events in this hour of world crisis.
To the current body at IHOP now, You decide if this is the final legacy of a movement that was well beyond these men. Forge forward without them. Allow the Holy Spirit to lead you.
Who can say, "I have kept my heart pure, I am clean and without sin?" (Pr 20:9) Yet 1Jn 5:18 says, We know that anyone born of God does not continue to sin . . . So, praying in the Spirit and by the Scriptures is widely accepted as pure. Then, let us include this verse in our prayers: 1Jn 5:18; also 2Co 13:14; 1Jn 1:7; Ep 3:20,21 for unity in the Spirit and love. Amen.
We repent for these sins and trust that God still has a great plan for IHOP! It will go on better and stronger than ever before. God's hand is still on Mike and his family! We will continue to love and focus on Jesus!
If there’s a mishandling of a certain sensible issue, I can understand Stuart’s resignation, but “permanently” distancing from Mike while “details are being vetted” seems like a premature move.
ummm let me ask the obvious question that no one else is asking. why did Stuart resign? in light of everything goin on, this is really confusing and suspicious
Abba Father, we repent for we all battle sin, the flesh warring the Spirit. When one suffers all suffers! We commit this time to You and ask that IHOPKC community (both local and abroad) recover and be healed! 1Corinthians 12:26-27 ESV If one member suffers, all suffer together; if one member is honored, all rejoice together. [27] Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it. Shalom!
Things ratchet up when PEOPLE refuse to obey God. The longer people hold out the more evil, destruction and turmoil they let in. Maybe we can ALL begin to heal now.
It didn't need to be this way, proud of those who keep the pressure on so that it would not have been swept under the carpet the last few years but sure sounds as if gross conduct has been going on for years. Cleanse the temple, myself included, we are all in the fire and pray it doesn't all get burnt up in the case of Mike.
Sending love and prayers to all involved. It’s sad to see all the scandals. We’re all doing mistakes daily, much is expected from everyone. Keep going IHOPKC ❤
I’m glad to see they are taking the proper steps. I pray the individuals who are guilty of misconduct will never again be allowed to perpetrate these evil deeds again.
Gossip and criticism is a heart declaration that says “If I walked in their shoes, I could have done a much better job and would have Never made thw mistakes that these men if God made”. If you dont Repent, God is going to give you the opportunity to test you by giving you all the same pressures, weighty concerns, along with all the high ranking oppressive demons assigned to high ranking ministers and ministries on a international level. REPENT before its too late and you find yourself in the same position of the people you criticized.
The Judgement of God starts with the church first . God is cleaning house.. the church must repent from pride lies greed immorality and cover up culture by the Power of the Spirit and the Blood of Jesus and the Sanctification process in the Holy Spirit.
I was just about to comment something similar. 1 Peter 4:17 Praying that everyone finds peace with this news. Remember, all ministries belong to the Lord first. We are all but earthen vessels to be used for His glory!
I will Be keeping all Bickles Books sermons and I was Blessed Many Times There , Sure Most People will Keep Sermons ? I will Be Praying For Mike Diane ,who should have a apology coming ? Saw on another site Mr & Miss Doe will be revealed Soon .i saw it .
I'm intensely saddened and disappointed that IHOP showed itself no different than other religious organizations in that it could not find within itself enough of the grace of Jesus Christ to partner with Him for His heart's desire "that they would be one."
😭😭😭 sorry to hear that from about he will be missed so sad to hear that pastor Mike is not part of ihop anymore but we still love him praying that God will heal him and his family this news it makes me very sad 😔 but the is time for everything and change is always good even sometimes is painful we love you guys forever .
Prayer for all involved. When you examine how to move forward you need to look at the Churches history of 24/7 prayer from 300ad on. I’m not saying a monastery is the way to go but look at some early church fathers writings. God Bless you!
This has been handled poorly from day one. I’m sick to my stomach at what was happening in a church that has had a major impact on my life. But I am embarrassed by all the lawyering up and maneuverings - This move should have happened much earlier.
I know for a fact the holy Spirit lived at IHOP and I will take that to my grave. Myself and my whole entire family has been impacted greatly by the holy Spirit the times we visited and lived there. Regardless of the allegations are true or false we must remember something that no one is even talking about. And that's all the young adults and youth and children that were touched by God at IHOP KC. We must keep them in our prayers so that Satan won't come in and convince people that they were not ever touched by God there. This is such a perfect time for Satan to really move in and divide tear down and conquer. As a church we must stand by the church. Not standing by just Mike or not standing by just the victims but standing by the body of Christ. Gossip about this must be ceased and repented if done so. The holy Spirit, Jesus Christ start at IHOP KC and was definitely there when I attended. Satan has found a way to creep in in a time where the me too movement is large. So regardless if the allegations are true or false we must really see what's going on here. And remember any of us convened next and fall.
Kind regards Naill O'Connell Dundalk Ireland 🇨🇮🇺🇸🇱🇷❤️. Sorry to hear about these issues. Bless you all Dear Prayer House. Best wishes respected 🙏 for New Year 🕛 2024. Love your music 🎶 love Kansas 🏙️. Willingness to keep in touch. Kind regards Naill O'Connell Dundalk Ireland 🇨🇮
Dear God help us to be like-minded and of one spirit and mind, being united in Christ Jesus (Ph 1: 1-2), for dear God you are near and gentle, so let us not be anxious, but with our prayer and thanks, we request you dear God to guard our hearts and minds in Christ Jesus (Ph 4: 5-7). Dear God allow us to come near to you in faith and hope, for you are a faithful God (Hb 11: 22-23), please allow us to walk in the harmony with you dear God (Jn 5: 19), please allow us to meditate on your word dear God and allow us to be fruitful (Ps 1 :2-3). Dear God, let the peace of Christ Jesus rule over our hearts and allow us to be thankful (Col 3: 15), that we may be compassionate, kind, humble, gentle, and patient, so that we may forgive one another as you forgave us dear God (Col 3: 12-13), for you alone dear God keeps our lamp burning and turns our darkness to light (Ps 18: 28), and it is you dear God who is our strength, our rock, our fortress, our deliverer, our refuge, our shield, our horn, our salvation, our stronghold (Ps 18: 1-2).
God is always faithful to His word and will. We can do ministry, but not know Jesus. God is always faithful to His name. That is why some will be surprised, when meeting Jesus. But we prophesied in your name, heal sick in your name, etc. But that Jesus would say, I don't know you. That shows that even despite sin and bad behavior, God is still faithful.
Instead of your condescending tweets and arrogant, prepped videos to try to improve the image of IHOPKC by leaving out facts and casting doubt on the victims, why not engage an open, live audience allowing real questions, and invite Julie Roys? This is cowardly and will shape your legacy more than any book or story.
Saw many similar things at a few Calvary Chapel’s. Pastors get protected at all costs and body was given condescending lectures. Perhaps IHOPKC should shut down.
Keep it simple and on track in the name of Jesus the Christ - Prince of Peace... a genuine potential opportunity to pursue the greater work and future service ahead is the proper pathway. A fundamental restructuring yes, would perhaps be the honorable and pleasing thing to God.
Apply the principles of a contaminated house to the contamination of the House of Prayer going back to Bob Jones. Leviticus 14:33-57. The contamination has spread and goes far back in time.
Well those that served some for 20 years and given faithfully deserve to know. Not the gritty for who would want that. Just how long it's gone on and who, and if charges need to be laid.