I didn’t know this was a common thing. I’ve gone to bowling club in school, went bowling on weekends, going out with friends and family. I’m 26 and I have never heard of a two handed bowling until just last week I saw one for the first time and my mind was just blown
2 of the guys on my team do it. It's crazy to watch and it really messes with the other teams lines(were the youngest team in the league by a far margin)
@@flashybangy I have been bowling two handed since around 2013-2014. I did it for fun at first but my coach told me that I looked more comfortable doing it and was a lot more consistent than I was bowling one handed. I went from a ~120 average to 210 average with a couple years of work.
A friend of mine started bowling around a month and a half ago or so and the last time we went out, we wound up playing 11 games straight and my shoulder was so tired I could only throw two handed which is something I had never done and I wound up having my best ever game by a mile. I wound up bowling a 229, which I know isn't great but it was a huge step up from my previous pb of 182. Whether it was a fluke or not, I have no idea, but I'll certainly be trying it again and trying to improve my throw
The two-handed style has allowed me to continue playing due to a sustained injury with my bowling arm. This style definitely has alleviated pressure on my wrist and elbow while at the same time has allowed me to produce higher rev rates than when I was throwing one handed. The thing I need to improve on is control and speed. But, thank God, for those who innovated this style.
Thats great man. I couldnt bowl 2 handed, due to a bad left knee. Im pretty sure without using my left arm for balance, I would put alot more strain on my knee! So I will always be 1hander! :)
Im in the exact same position. I have injured my wrist, I have been having physio on that wrist but bowling 2 handed has alleviated all the pressure on the wrist so I will be sticking with it
Thank you, I'm tired of hearing people hate on two handers. Some of us have suffered injuries and CAN'T bowl one handed. I'd rather bowl two handed than not bowl at all. Those people need to grow up and accept change.
two handed is also a good technique for kids or people with low muscle mass on their throwing arm. my 1 hand throw is udder trash because i cant balance myself the same way , 2 handed throw allows me to support my left hand and keep my center of gravity aligned. 2 handed 4ever!
Thank you for the video. As a two-hander I really enjoyed the commentary on the collapsing release. I have rather variable ball reaction and actually have a tough time getting the ball to slow down into the roll (easier time going up the lane than the big hook), and I think it might be that I'm keeping my wrist too stiff through the ball. I would enjoy more two-handed videos on things like controlling axis rotation.
I'm trying to convert to a 2H bowler after bowling 30 years with a conventional one handed style. The highest my average has ever been was a 209 in leagues before I walked away from the sport for almost a decade. I got back into bowling about 6 months ago and not only was I shocked by how many 2H bowlers are out there compared to when I walked away from the sport, but I've also been having issues with my thumb during release. The issues with release since coming back to the sport had me thinking about transitioning to a 2H bowler. At first I wasn't serious about it but lately I've been practicing multiple days a week on my 2H release. My biggest issue right now is none of my balls are drilled for a 2H release. Because of that I'm having a very tough time with consistency but it's getting much better as of late. I also had an issue increasing my ball speed to match my 1 handed release speed but that also has been getting better as of late. If I can get my average up to a 180 or higher within about 6 months of practicing 2H that would give me the confidence to make the full switch.
I Started 2 handed bowling 🎳 before I knew anyone even did this. I switched to this style because I have Carpel tunnel problems, I’ve had surgery twice on my hand and the pain in my hands and elbow is too great to bowl one handed or “Normal style” anymore. If you have hand or elbow pain this is an EXCELLENT way to bowl. Someone just told there’s pros who bowl like this, so I came to check it out.. LOL crazy 😆😎
I’m having some of the same problems ( carp tunnel , shoulder issues etc) and I’m just getting back into bowling , it’s been 30 odd years since I quit. What I’ve noticed ( and I’m still doing it the traditional one-handed way) is getting my ball speed and revs where they used to be. Do you switching to a two handed style will help that ?
I'll be honest I skimmed through the video initially and during his walk up from the side I thought "Hey that looks a lot like Rolling Meadows" and then I see in one of the next shots...there it is above the wall! That's crazy! I remember bowling there in a league as kid for a few years and many other times for leisure. Absolutely wild to think something like this would be filmed there!
I practice both two-handed and the conventional one-handed and I just say whatever works, do it. Both methods can look beautiful and bowl a lot of good games.
Always learning something new and two hand is one of them... though I’m a traditional one hand righty/tweener... I like the two hand style... Thanks Coach Shady and Mike! 🤙🏽😊🤙🏽 #insidebowling
Since I've ever picked up a bowling ball, I've used two hands. I think it's because I always used a ball that was to heavy for me as a kid. It's just stuck. I thought I was crazy until I saw Belmo first do it on the tour.
I went bowling today and I was losing so and I saw a guy using a two handed method the other day so I was '''f it. Lets just try that.'' I grabbed a heavy ball and swung with all my force and I it right in the middle and I got a strike. Such a fun way to throw a bowling ball.
Just started bowling and I just could never get anything with one hand but I tried 2 hand and I started to play better love bowling and play it with my family
Honestly before this I was doing two handed I did one handed and every time I threw it. I was pushing my finger up against the rubber insides and it burned like heck. But then two handed did the opposite when i cradled the ball i didn't have to grip the insides as hard as i can so i wouldn't drop it. This technique is a blessing.
I always thought two handed bowlers were beginners that never actually learned "proper bowling form". I was both elitist and ignorant. Thanks for the vid.
Great vid, can you do more of these please. my problem is that my speed isnt that good. people say speed is more on the foot work for two handers but i dont understand how to get my speed up. can you do more on it maybe how my foot work should be and more or swing timing thank you
Use your plant foot/Leg To drive forward into your swing and ball release. Like a baseball pitcher uses the legs to get greater speed. Ya know what I mean? Plant and drive down into your release
For me, the greatest advantage with two hand no thumb, never worry about hand strength grip, ball slippage or skin injuries to thumb from consecutive bowling.
The fact that it takes hand strength out of the sport is one of the tragedies. Reducing skin injuries and wear is one the justices of it. Thumb injuries have ruined alot of tournaments for people, and many just accepted that reality.
I don’t know if anybody asked the question but thumb and or thumb out or to make it more clearly with the thumb or without the thumb on the two handers if I wanted to start trying it
Thanks for this video. My wife in making the transition to two hands because it effects her carpal tunnel less. But she still wants a wrist strap. I’m worried the Mongoose Lifter she’s using now is effecting he “collapsing” wrist motion you refer to in your video. If this does effect it, is there a wrist strap you recommend that is better for a two handed release? Thanks for your help!
Hey! Im a two hander so hopefully I can answer a bit. Basically for two handed bowlers we are resting the ball on our wrist, which means we need to bend at the joint. Wrist wraps force the hand flat and won’t allow you to get underneath the ball. Yes, you need to “collapse” your hand at the end, but that is because they’re bent in the first place. Not sure what she could do… but I think it might get harder for her wrist in the end…
Can a healthy and fit 70 year one-handed old bowler with low revs carrying a 208 average convert with lots of practice to two-handed to increase power that has been lacking for 40 years?
I keep having thumb problems that have caused multiple wrist injuries in the last few months. I'm considering moving to 2 handed bowling so I can keep up in the game but without this mentally frustrating issue.
I have started to transition to two handed as the older I get the harder it becomes to throw with strength two handed makes it easier to control and as an result I have moved to an heavier ball
Yeah I cried today all the good players were there and it hurt my feelings because it makes me nervous when bowling and I wind up getting gutters over rand over and over and over and over again plus the poor hand eye coordination
Generating effective and consistent ball speed is the result of having good timing and a fluid swing motion. Switching from one handed to two handed can take a bit of time as it usually requires different timing so it feels quite different and it can take some work to become loose and fluid. We'd recommend taking some video from the side so that you can see what you're doing with the timing. Good luck!!
The video didn't talk about the grip. The two handers in this video don't put their thumb in the ball. I'm just putting this comment here because I could see being confused with that if I was brand new to this style.
Can you do 2-handed with a fingertip ball but leave your thumb out and use your other hand in the same way a regular 2-hander does? So: Fingertips in the finger holes, thumb flat on the ball, and other hand on opposite side of the ball. No good?
To comply with USBC rules, you can keep your thumb out with your fingers in but, if the ball has a thumbhole drilled you must have your thumb in the hole. Therefore, to comply with the rules if you want your thumb out, you can only have the finger holes drilled and but no thumbhole. Thanks for the question and thanks for watching our videos!
On my team I have a 2 handed 21 yr old kid. Good bowler, but if he's not striking, it looks like the 2h shot makes it harder for him to pick up his spares. Especially the 10pin! That's my observation, dunno if this is more of a fact 1h vs 2h but sure seems to me, making spares puts the 2h at a disadvantage. Maybe? Anyone else feel the same???
I am a no thumb bowler and my son is a 2 handed bowler. So as I am watching these video's in slow motion, I am wondering what you see or hear from the 2 hand bowlers.... what it their other hand doing at the release?
@@insidebowling ok that is kinda what I have been noticing. So me being a no thumb bowler, but taking my other hand off earlier than 2 hand bowlers will most likely result in similar ball reaction. Correct? I just started bowling in February so I haven't checked my rev rate and all yet. I tend to self teach myself on everything. Lol
I honestly think 2 handed bowling is the future. bowling 1 handed you can only really hook a reactive ball. Bowling 2 handed you can hook anything, even if the coverstock or core isn't present.
What weight ball is he throwing? And what kind of ball because I'm built like him and a 15 is to heavy and a 13 feels perfect but every bowling ball has a different core under 14lbs so...
I am just today play my first boweling game in my life. I scired 40 points in one game .surprisingly I was playing two handed..now I looked in youtube to see if this is wrong.
I just got back into bowling after I would say almost 20 years away from it. I would always bowl one handed but started 2 handed this year. At 36 years old my left hip hurts after 3 games but I'm still going to try and get the 2 handed game down. I switch to 1 handed to pick up spares. I think the hip pain comes from all the torque thats put on the ball before it's released in 2 handed fashion.
I just started using a thumb out technique, but I found out I for USBC rules will prohibit my using a thumb out on a ball with a thumb hole. This is stupid and has no logical reason why this would be the case.
I'm 55 and have been bowling since I was 13....I am a traditional one-handed bowler. I had a huge hook. 6 years ago I ruptured my distal bicep tendon and had to have surgery and physical therapy to get the motion and strength back. I took a few years away from bowling. I just started back to bowling league this year, 2020. My arm is not what it once was and my ball speed is slower. Not to mention I have a bone on bone hip joint on my left leg...which is my slide leg. I'm wondering if going to two-handed bowling could help me better. It looks incredibly awkward to me but I have never seriously tried it. Do you have any thoughts?
I'm dealing with Tennis Elbow in my right elbow and I'm right handed..it's very very painful and this injury occurred from bowling. To try and take the pressure off my right elbow, I might be considering 2 handed but it's not cause I'm trying to be cool or get more power but my reasoning will be cause of injury...but I have never been good with it after I have had the same style for 30 years of bowling...I feel like a fish out of water lol
If the motion is smooth, fluid and efficient and the lower body is working more than the upper body it likely will be fine on the back. Similarly to one handed, if the motion is forced and more muscled with the upper body, it can tend to be harder on the back and the whole body. Thanks for the question!
In some sports - OK, in ski-jumping - there are points for style. Two-handed bowling looks awkward and generally speaking something that doesn't look right isn't right. Just how much "power" is needed to knock over ten little pins? Give me the grace and elegance of the traditional any day.
Thanks for the question and thanks for watching our videos. Two handed bowling has been around for quite a while. There was actually a two hander that bowled that competed regionally in the southwest and occasionally on the pro tour back in the late 80's and early 90's.
Anyone can bowl two handed. Technically you can throw it however you want within reason. It just takes practice. I've been bowling two handed for a little over 14 years and I'm still learning new techniques on how to get better. Its all about practice and commitment
I didn't know about two handed bowling outside of granny shots until today when I saw a PBA tournament in TV. I was thinking, "these guys are professionals?" Other than looking odd, if they found something that works within the rules, then good for them.
This didn’t teach me anything! How is the ball spun, what is the motion of both hands and at what point is the spin motion executed? What lane markers are targeted with this motion? Your title said teach, I didn’t need a lesson on how it is becoming the future of bowling I want a lesson on how it is done thank you.
The only problem I have with the video is that he has very little push away. I understand that it works for him but I always find it weird to see two handed with very little back swing like this. Not criticizing, just making a comment. Nice video
@@princessdanica In my experience when I have to do short approach, I will take the same amount of step but just make my first two or three smaller because I actually start my push off and backswing on about my third step. I mean it works for him and more power to him. I just find it weird because of not seeing that little of a push off in most of the two handers I know, including myself
Two handers bowl that way to generate more power but many are now using urethane because of that. Two handed cannot be that accurate. If you put a very hard OB condition etc the Norm Dukes or Haugens or similar will come out on top. Belmo is a freak of nature. Juniors are also trying to bowl two handed but do not practice spares. Spares is what makes a pro bowler good because under very hard conditions the strikes will be hard to come by. Every time I see juniors in bowling centers trying to imitate Belmo, they are resetting their spare shots. That is a big mistake and junior coaches should emphasize on spares not on two handed.
Or just emphasize on both. Two handed can be controlled as we have seen with multiple two handed bowlers at the top levels. Spare picking is essential, I certainly cant argue that.
@@andrewslama9794 True - but in a way I feel coaches should teach traditional. Here is why. 1. We still don't know if two handed movements can lead to physical problems in the future. Most of the two handers are still rather young. If you remember Walter Ray trying it but it did not look right and he did not bend down as much. It is still yet to see if aging can affect the release. 2. Many of these two handers are using urethane. The basic object of two handed as in palm ball is to get as much power as possible but many are turning back. It may work in some house shots but perhaps not all the times in PBA shots. This is why Sean Rash has been successful day in and day out as a one hander. Remember when Rash first came out on tour, he turned it almost like Belmonte - he was a super cranker. He learned to straighten the shots and put less revs to be successful on most conditions - and even though many people hate him, he has a good game and can play most shots. Anyhow it all comes down to what you are more comfortable with.
