Leaving Ableton for Bitwig after 1 Week??? Have things changed??? 

the reason it copies over empty space in your case is because you're using time selection. when using cursor tool, you might notice that it's a dynamic type of tool that changes behavior depending on where you hover it over. so if you hover at the upper half of the track, you get the crosshair cursor, which will select content (clips) when you press and drag with it. that's what you want to do in this case. lower half of the track gets you time selection cursor, which will select time segment including empty space. another thing to know is that for looping clips you can just drag side of a clip by lower part to start looping it (instead of extending the clip container itself), which I think is a much quicker gesture to do, and it works for multiple clip selection.

28:12 if you ctrl click (cmnd on mac i assume) the middle track it will deselected or selected from the time selection. Also the cursor switches between the time selection and pointer tool depending on where in the lane you hover it. On the top part of the lane, where the clips are colored black bitwig uses the pointer tool, below that it switches to the time selection tool. Control clicking allows you to make multiple selections without losing your current selection.

My favourite educational channel, from MPC to Bitwig it's all A+ with no fluff. It helps he's an actual recording professional not just a professional geartuber

8:40 For any FL Studio users happening to watch this, automation isn't supported for importing however the new DAWProject format they're creating (if others adopt it) is what is meant to solve that for any DAW

about automation - yes, Bitwig is suddenly laging behind Ableton on that regard, when it comes to tooling for manipulating automation in place in arranger. I think Ableton added a lot of this after version 10. but at least you can enter specific values for points via inspector panel and do histogram analysis and manipulation of the selected points, including adding randomisation. another thing you can do is combining absolute automation with relative automations, which can be stored inside a clip, and do additive or multiplicative motion (like modulation), and you see result of automations working together. this could also be the way to add cycling shapes, using clip automation instead of track automation.

In Bitwig there are several ways to get to your destination. Some are faster and others are shorter😉 . Bitwig is modular. I switched from Ableton to Bitwig 5 years ago and have been 100% Bitwigger ever since...

18:08 Bitwig also have Auto Save function, you can find the Autosaves in the project folder, let's say an electrical issue happened, you can find a copy of the project one hour ago (cannot say the time exactly, since i rarely needed that, only when I needed to revert to to that older version).

Also, triple monitor support!!!

Capture Midi is a must have not provided by Bitwig. This Ableton feature records Midi in the background and is super useful if you play around with a controller, such as the Push, but you didn't record the session. The opportunity to recall Midi history is important. I hope Bitwig is listening. We also need video syncing. These two features are more important than more modulators, compressors, etc. We already have plenty.

Keep doing these, please!!!

Omg I didn't even know we could import Ableton projects! Yasssss :)

5.1 just dropped!

My suggestion for drumbuss replacement is creating a Chain with the functionality you want, then assigning some remote controls and save it as a preset.

Excellent video. Instant subscribe.

The solution for the CTRL + D thing is just to click on the title of the first clip from the top, then shift + click (or ctrl for manual clip / audio select) the title of the last clip you want to duplicate, THEN hit the duplicate command

23:18 Well you can also Ctrl+G that VST session and put it inside a container and save it with a name for future use as container. This way you will not lose any specific controller mappings. Bitwig already puts any VST inside a container as visually seen, and you notice there is little arrow on the upper corner, there you can put any other VST or Bitwig devices like filter, ladder filter, comb, reverb etc.

Love this!!!!

This video doubles as an advanced feature guide to ableton. Didn't know about automation shapes, vst containers, or what that A/B button did in VSTs

It's frustrating when Ableton crashes and you have to reload the project, unsure if everything is still intact.

I don't know if you'd like that but I'm willing to spend an hour or two to teach you the ins and outs. I had experience in multiple daws but using bitwig exclusively for a couple years now. Free obviously, I just like to teach and spread the word.

Before select the clip try to press key "2" or "1", it changes the cursor tool, so you can do the duplicate thing as you want.

Actually, I got a free - limited functionality VST, but Bitwig was able to see all the locked-out controls via the mapping pages ;)

My wishlist for Bitwig is: - automation... please... - remove automation smoothing - slices added to sampler (without using drummachine) - contextual keybinds and for the love of god remove the popup browser and make the side browser useable, especially the "file" browser, which u cant search in

On your question, I think it's a Live hangover. In live you cannot just loop clips without consolidating. In Bitwig just put your cursor at the bottom of the end of the clip and drag - it will just loop the whole clip. No need to duplicate at all. At a later stage you can split the looped clips of course.

3:02 you can drag the shape of the clip you want (after drawing it) to the clip arranger with the time selection tool and even save it as a shape for use in other projects. You can add favorites as well so that you can find and use all your custom shapes faster!

Been using Bitwig since 1. I got it with free with something...cant remember what. Tried going to ableton because all of the tutorials on YT seem to be Ableton....but the workflow slowdown was crushing. These videos are great. Best thing about Bitwig is they will probs see this vid and add your sugestions next week. Have you seen that presonus and bitwig have teamed up to create a .daw file type to make sessions completely (well, it's new...) interchangable between DAWs? Lots of fun things happening from bitwig.

I’m so excited about bitwig, presonus, and the future of the .dawproject standard. There’s nothing wrong with ableton, logic, or any of the other major daws, they all have their charms and difficulties, and having so many valid choices is wonderful. However, being unable to open your friends project files, and having to resort to sending stems, due to working with different daws has long been a pain point, and a non insignificant factor in daw choice for many. If this format gets adopted as a standard, collaborators won’t be penalized for enjoying a different workflow from their contemporaries.

I would love beginner tutorials for Bitwig and Ableton. That mapping stuff is cool, but I just wish I knew more about it. Like how to do it and apply it. Thank you for the videos Stu. I look forward to new ones and I’m now a subscriber. I do own Bitwig and Ableton but it’s been months and I only opened them once. I really want to learn both, but I don’t where to start. I’m a songwriter type who’s just getting into electronic music.

Importing ableton projects is also handy for other tools like DJ Studio which feature exporting to Ableton,

I really doubt anyone would use a modulator to add a simple automation. We just do it in the automation area. yeah.. it does take a small bit longer.

Why do you need to duplicate those clips? You can select the clips, turn on Looping in the Inspector on the left, then just drag the right edge of one of the selected clips to "copy" as many times as you want without copying and pasting, and without affecting tracks between the two clips. Then, if you need to edit a duplicated clip, just edit the original and all the copies get updated to match.

One pro advice: use 32 bit floating points, both for recording and bouncing, to prevent possible clippings.

4:04 You can simply use LFO Curves and choose "square" form below and draw..

-- Thanks for the tip about DrivenByMoss. I have a couple supported devices on his list and I'm eager to see what his extension opens up on my gear. -- Regarding your problem, I don't know about keyboard shortcuts, but dragging to select clips, then using CTRL+drag to copy them works cleanly. -- You mentioned missing Ableton's built-in "Glue Compressor" but didn't say what it was about Bitwig's built-in compressor that wasn't doing the trick for you. I've been using on everything, from beefing up wind instruments & percussion to master-track & buss glue. Seems to get the job done and is nicely transparent about it. Doesn't seem to support side-chaining, though, which is an odd oversight, IMO.

Bitwig has the best support for Maschine controllers on the market. They feel "almost native" in Bitwig. So, anyone who uses a Maschine MK3, Mikro MK3 or Maschine+ should consider Bitwig over Ableton due to how well those controllers work there. Try a trial. Must be experienced to be appreciated. Most things are mapped 1:1, so the controls are very intuitive and it works the same way it would work in the Maschine 2 software. If using Bitwig, definitely prefer Maschine over MPC, barring other requirements or personal preferences. The best MIDI Controllers for Bitwig are those like the Oxygen Pro 49/61 which are Ableton Live Certified (Bitwig automatically switches to the Ableton Preset - the Bitwig Preset seems pretty worthless) on top of better on-device controls and a Note Repeat Engine, Rotary Knob for Session Navigation, and nice Firmware-based Theory Features. Novation Launcheky MK3 and SL-series work very well, as well, and are more "specifically-built" for these DAWs. Less flexible as a controller, though, and the Aftertouch is on the pads instead of the Keys (opposite of Oxygen Pro). Flawless Parameter Pickup for Knobs and Faders, color coded pads for Session View, etc. I just wish Bitwig had a better menu system. It has the worst feature discovery of any DAW that I've ever used because there is no menu to "overview" its functionality like almost every other DAW I've used has... It also has a pretty bad way of updating itself ON WINDOWS. Going from 5.1.8 to 5.1.9 creates a new installation in a different directory (as every install directory is versioned), and when you uninstall the old version, it breaks all of the file associations forcing you to Repair the new installation to fix it. I think the best way to update is to uninstall Bitwig and then re-install the new version. That should still carry over all of the settings (Content Directory, etc.). I will try that on a laptop later today. On macOS, this is less of an issue since you Drag-and-Drop the app to Applications and can choose to simply replace it, which avoids these issues by doing an in-place upgrade since the installations are not versioned (e.g. C:\Program Files\Bitwig Studio\Bitwig 5.1.8 vs. C:\Program Files\Bitwig Studio\Bitwig 5.1.9). Ableton Live does versioned installations, but it actually ports things like file associations over when installing a later version, so you can just uninstall the old version without having it break anything. Not sure why the Bitwig developers haven't figured this out yet. The software has been out for a while, and this is something they absolutely should have noticed during testing and worked to alleviate. Being able to double click a project file and open it in the relevant application is a basic thing people just expect to happen - even across application updates or upgrades. Both of these DAWs need a way to manage (and hide) individual plug-ins from the browser. It sucks when you have a few VST2-only plug-ins that you want to use, but enabling that format surfaces 40 redundant VST2 plug-ins (that also have VST3 versions that you'd always use over them) because they aren't auto-hidden, and there is no way to manually hide them (Studio One, Cubase, Reason, Samplitude Pro X, SONAR, Digital Performer, WaveLab, Sound Forge, Resolve, VEGAS, ACID, etc. all allow doing this).

That thumbnail is hilarious 😂

Have you found out a way to link tracks for layer editing like in ableton?

I feel people think Bitwig is another more improved version of Ableton. Like they were trying to give ableton the finger because they didn't do what they wanted, I don't think that's actually the case. But I think Bitwig is designed for a different purpose. Ableton was meant for live performances. Everything is clean, and quick to grab and simple looking so it is easy to use when you're in front of 70 thousand people. Funny thing, was Ableton originally when it first came out was more for live performances, but they quickly realized how much people wanted to produce and perform. However, Ableton was made in 2001. Long ass time ago. Bitwig seems to be made for production rather than live performances and more focused on experimentation rather than just song writing. I think they made it because Ableton wasn't focused on the smaller group of technical musicians who wanted to get really nitty gritty. Ableton was more for song writers, bands, etc. Both can accomplish similar things, but both also were created for certain artists. That being said, get both and use them together if you can. It's a match made in heaven.

I also switched, but that was 9 years ago, never had an intention to switch to any DAW again.

If you want to use time selection to copy time from multiple tracks you can select time in one track and then ctrl click (Windows) in the other time regions of other tracks you want to copy. If you ctrl click again on a region it will remove it from the selection. This way you can have time selection spanning tracks with gaps in between thus excluding some tracks you don't want to copy.

Ohhh, wow. That Ableton duplicate functionality is really unexpected, I've never used it that way. It sort of makes sense, the selection changes after every duplicate event. But I've never known it does this, since I move tracks around before I do detailed editing that requires duplication.

So just you know, Bitwig's eq has latency so when you use it in a group it'll create phasing.It's a known issue that'sbeen in Bitwig for a while.

With a touch monitor,, a way to automation with the finger

For the Bitwig Frustration, would holding CMD/CTRL down, selecting the desired clips to copy, then duplicating (cmd/ctrl - D) work? ~EDIT~ Tested this on my mac and it was CMD, not Shift. I can hold CMD down, select all clips I want to duplicate, and it skips over blank spaces.

Simple solution for the end of the video problem. Move cursor around the clip you will see and + sign and draw it up or down to select those 2 clips and duplicate.. and one more way to do it select the clips while holding the Ctrl key.

Wait until you start using the track view on midi it's so good! It lets you work on individual clips as one track and you start to compose things more efficiently

@x-iso Another advantage of bitwig over ableton, in ableton there is only time selection for track, two selected clips in the same track cannot be copied or moved with another clip in the midle without it being excluded from the operation, I think its a very big mistake, reaper also has two types of selections, clips or time.

Do you find that you are missing Ableton Live's Groove functionality?

Ableton Crashing is What Drove me to Demo Bitwig. same I why I Dropped Solidworks to move to OnShspe for my CAD.

Welcome to the dark side 😜

Try BLEASS Saturator as a replacement for drum bus.

seams like the only real heavy heavy heavyweight on ableton's side of the scale is max4live

About your problem, i think it's better to use the drag copy function instead of CTRL-D, then you can make nice use of the operators too. Or you select the blocks with CTRL instead of selecting all 3 of the tracks.

I don´t need the time consuming "The Grid" and I don´t need modulation in each direction... Bitwig is more for sound nerds. So I prefer Abelton Life.

* Bitwig has its own version of drumbus. I think it’s listed as an “FX layer” * Writing automation in Bitwig is a pain in the ass, I totally agree. I’ve heard it’s improved a bit in version 5.1 though

Tested your issue with duplicating clips. If you grab a clip from the top section, you will see a + icon. When grabbing from there and selecting multiple clips it won't override a clip from a track in-between the 2 selected clips. On the contrary, if you see the "I" icon (selecting bottom section of clip/track, it will duplicate everything, even empty spaces. Secondly, if you understand how drum buss works, it's easy to replicate using compression, saturation, and the resonator device. I attempted to recreate it myself and results were pretty decent.

Driven by Moss Maschine Mk3 script doesnt function as in his video, it is quirky

Use both they link together easily. I use 3 different daws 1 tool in your tool but is a silly idea. We have the box full of tools

Once you get used to the modulators... you can't live without them...

I will never miss anything from ableton : because I would not switch an entire DAW for couple minor features. I hear this everywhere, people using multiple DAW's for the sake of using multiple DAW's : why !? If I cannot do it in LIVE, I will simply not do it : It may be different for you since you work with musicians but holy s**t point me to a person that uses any DAW to it's maximum capabilities. No such person exists ! Imagine Vince Clarke or Chris Lowe having access to this in the 80's and gripe about missing features ....😁😁

thats big big errors and missing features of Ableton Live .... nailed ...

Bitwig is ableton 20 😂

i dont get it how does one have sex with a software?

you buried ableton in this video. How many session and mood crashed because of a damn plugin. Bitwig here i come

So according to your thumbnail, you left a dude for a female..?🤔😆😆

Bitwig is cool but their pricing is awful. Ableton is much better for updates.

Ableton is outdated. Ableton 12 is not becoming better, just fancy useless generative MIDI stuff, an overcrowded arranger window and browser where you have to edit the tags by yourself for millions of samples and VSTs

how is the time stretching and/or warping system in bitwig if any ? haven't seen you touch on that

I’m so excited about bitwig, presonus, and the future of the .dawproject standard. There’s nothing wrong with ableton, logic, or any of the other major daws, they all have their charms and difficulties, and having so many valid choices is wonderful. However, being unable to open your friends project files, and having to resort to sending stems, due to working with different daws has long been a pain point, and a non insignificant factor in daw choice for many. If this format gets adopted as a standard, collaborators won’t be penalized for enjoying a different workflow from their contemporaries.