Lecrae Discusses Nearly Leaving Christianity (Short Interview) 

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@Daris Meachem people who follow Christ are Christians but all Christians are not Christ followers. There are so many christian that are church goers.

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@@sollyprogrammer3750 I stopped going to church for many reason's. Some personal, some for annoyances with the Christians there. I've been to many churches, and it always comes down to the same reasons. But the main reason I bounce on all churches is based on what the pastor is preaching. The always find a way to loop back to the first day I went there and preach that, as if the bible were a small book.

You seem so steeped in the word. So why is it, you're not able to discern that Lecrae's desire is not to be your brother. He wants to partner with the world.

Nicole after the album came out, I wonder do you feel differently?

bboystance07 read the Bible and perhaps God will grant you discernment to know who lecrae truly belongs to.

Rock Collins if you can point me to specific verses or chapters, I would appreciate it. If I find anything of note, ill,let you,know.

Brother Simon absolutely!!!!

Someone probably feels the same about you.

It isn't a struggle. Really They are tools of Jesus to make us strongest .

When I was hurt by Christian, I didn't leave God. I stumble in some areas but I got back up. What I learn that I was putting trust in the wrong person. But I try saying some of still stuff to Christ myself. And I was told in so many words. I can't blame others for folks. I have my own relationship with him. I really think you just followed the money bro!

Honest question, how could you be turned off by the people, when you know they're human? When you knew from the beginning that it was about Christ? 1 Peter 4:11 if someone speaks, let him speak God’s words; if someone serves, let him do so out of strength that God supplies; so that in everything God may be glorified through Yeshua the Messiah - to him be glory and power forever and ever. Amen. 12 Dear friends, don’t regard as strange the fiery ordeal occurring among you to test you, as if something extraordinary were happening to you. 13 Rather, to the extent that you share the fellowship of the Messiah’s sufferings, rejoice; so that you will rejoice even more when his Sh’khinah is revealed.

The Broham Nation Because theologically the church is supposed to be representative of the body of Christ on earth. Lecrae's theology of the church may have (obviously) had to go through some necessary reforming because of the life experiences he was having. It sounds like his testimony of 'almost leaving Christianity' expresses more of an active desire to live a religionless life, rather than leaving the person of Christ himself. When those who you thought were your brothers and sisters in Christ condemn you for following his call to go fully into the world, that's going to cause you to doubt and have to reevaluate your faith.

I have been turned off by people who identify as Christian. I have met horrible hypocrites who hate and abuse in the name of Jesus. These people made me want nothing to do with Christianity. It wasn't until I actually read the bible and saw that Jesus was nothing like these people.

Fuck off Ruslan yo ass out here dropping diss tracks tryna act like your a Christian and shit. Miss me with that. Your whole label just breeds hypocrisy look at what happened to John

Ruslan KD I feel you

Amen

Indeed.

David Livick hey man....remember me

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The homie Livick!!!!!!!

He obviously isn't looking for discipline or reproach just praise

The Bible says do not forsake the assembly of yourself together. We need the fellowship whether it is reading the Bible and worshipping at church or in your own home with other believers

Look at the world we live in. Look at our president and his supporters and the message, ugliness and violence they defend and encourage while calling themselves Christians. I have questioned this just like he did? Haven't you?

@@divasbraidz he's definitely not looking for praise. Stop it.

Paul also notes that, while we can't judge/assess the unbelieving world by Biblical standards, we are to judge/assess one another. Obviously, there's a difference between prideful condemnation and genuinely concerned rebuke. I think it fair to highlight his role as a leader to many, many of whom don't have enough roots in their faith, yet, to discern God's distinct leading for them vs. His distinct leading of others; or concern themselves with considering how the righteousness of the Word in front of them surpasses that of any pastor, loved one, artist and even their own conscience. I also think it fair to underscore how the Church is continuously put on trial to an unbelieving world by its believers. I think it's helpful to be honest and not put on a smiley face, but what's the boundary? Where's the hope? I'm sure I'm guilty of responding to my own disdain re: the Church, along with many others. But if Jesus loves his Bride, and he were standing right in front of us, how would we talk about her then? Anywho, I feel like as long as Lecrae truly feels led in the direction he's going, I personally don't have a gripe (unless it's straight out irreverent). But it would be nice to see him, as a leader, also honestly address any stumbling blocks that his walk may be placing in the way of weaker brothers and sisters. I wonder if Jesus not only sent his own disciples away to shield the woman at the well, but also to shield them from a mission field that *they* were not ready to handle. I think this is a good example, not just of how vulnerable we can be at different points in our life, but of the great responsibility that comes with with a role that we may desire, have prayed for or have just been saddled with as we seek to be obedient to the Lord. Any form of leadership (great or small) isn't meant to be a cakewalk, or about serving ourselves, our art, our talent, our dreams; like the artists who contributed to the temple in the old testament, our calling is meant to be a tool that reflects the holiness/set-apartness of God to others. All that said, I definitely agree on the hope that we would all join in prayer for Lecrae. He's facing a lot. May God continue to help and lead--with a strong hand--our brother, his fam and all of whom have a voice in their lives (1 Cor 5:12-13; 1 Cor 6:1-6; Jn 7:21-24; Rom 14)

I agree with what you just said. The HOLY SPIRIT in me will not argue with the HOLY SPIRIT in you. AMEN

TeeJay Ross best comment and amen!that's why my generation is more and more lost: the modern Christianity living too much around the old Testament and focus on apparence of "perfection"

Amen! In JESUS' name!

TeeJay Ross QUIT BEING WHAT YA NOT. PERFECT.

Totally agree

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Keep the faith ,Jeremiah and many endure hardship but thank God Hes a keeper

The Wade-O Radio Video Channel did he just say Egypt?

iamgchildaproductofgrace no pop tarts

eloquently spoken; great perspective. 10/10 would read again :) lol

Bless Up Amen alot of Christians are in a fantasy world thanking they don't sin everyday sin is something simple is fear or a bad attitude

And yet, he still did songs with secular artists. "C'mon guys, we're cool, we're real hip-hop too! Metro Boomin trusts ME, and we're not corny anymore!"

Why should I feel bad for someone that was claiming Christ and was not producing any fruits and was causing others to stumble. I keep him pray but he needs to put Christ back as his focus and stop trying to be like the world.

The Broham Nation what's wrong with that?

Matthew Richardson that's why I've kinda stopped associating my self with it for like the last 2 years. Still team GOD, still team Jesus. It's just the religious spirit behind a lot involved in Chh has become such a turn off for me.

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Matthew Richardson Yup, I can't stand most CHRISTIANS. I've seen White Christians tear this man apart on social media. I've seen Black Christians tear this man apart on social media. If I was an artist, the LAST genre I'd wanna go into is Christian. They are some of the most judgemental, closed minded, racist group of people I've come by. Sad but it's the truth. Don't believe me? I can show proof of that. This is why noone takes the Christian community serious. I'm down with God...I'm NOT down with his so called followers.

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Emmanuel McAllister Speak facts, bro, you got the nail on the head. They don't hear you, though.

But that doesnt also guarantee that the people he is wanting to "disciple" would get sound doctrine without having to be covered by their worldly standards. Lecrae must be having that kind of approach - it isnt wrong either, but is it efficient? Arent we suppose to reach out people with the clearest words? Words that dont only come out to our mouths but words that are spoken through our actions? Arent the people also deserve to be taught or reached out by the very truth, the word of God, instead of compromising with their ways/standards which are clearly abonished by the statutes of the Lord? Lecrae must start reassessing his way of reaching out to lost souls, because he might be leading them to halfbaked "christians" Yes, he has a good purpose, but hes doing it in a degenerative way.

Ummm, The Apostles and Jesus Himself gave *heavy doctrine* to unbelievers.

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Lecrae influence me to be more real, relevant and relatable in my raps. I still like to be Lyrical Theology, but since I believe Jesus called me to rap to the unsaved, I have to give it to them in a way that they understand the gospel without being over bible thumping.

Whoooooo!! They not ready. 🔥 🔥 🔥

cj wins. We are supose to judge other Christians out of love so they dont sin.

Pitching 100 that's was so stupid What you just said and actually Goes against what God says

Pitching 100 you know what the Bible says about judging others. And not sinning? Far as I know we all do daily which is exactly why we need Jesus. So pretty much the only ones who should judge Lecrae are the perfect ones...oh wait.

I strongly believe he is a Christian. He just went thru an immense time of doubt and struggle. He seems to have come out of that period much stronger.

I am not. He is human and he is questioning the state of our country, of our world and wondering how he and those people (some that support TRUMP) can both call themselves Christians. It is ok to question and need to reboot.

it is subtle deception, he puts down Gods people and gives no redeeming quality, like if he is the only one "doing it right" by trying to fellowship with the world. no man is above rebuke, doesn't matter how famous u get

@@unknownunknown4029 The fuck does supporting Trump have to do with anything? Weird of you to try to make that point considering Trump has brought back God into the white house.

@J why you flustered??? Git the fuck outa here with your white rage. Go follow Michael W. Smith or the Gaither Brothers or something. Enjoy your white privileged life with them fellas. Fuck

@@FirstUsername God never leaves any house sir.lol.

There but for the grace of God, go I.

Michelle Steed so you just admitted that you are lead by your flesh which is why you find it OK with what he's doing? Hmmm

Dezperado7'z Yes I can amit that I have acted out in my flesh especially at work because I'm a human being I'm real about it that's why I need Jesus everyday just like you and just like Lecrae I'm not perfect and I'll never will be a real believer in Jesus admits to Falling everyday being transparent a fake Christian will point at everybody else's problems and act like they don't sin everyday yes we are to go to God to help us but we will still fall at times a part of life yes I don't care about him doing music with other artists I like all kinds of music Christian or non-Christian just like I Like watching non-Christian movies everybody's got their conviction as long as we don't force it on each other believe me I will be the first to admit I had and have problems sometimes I feel like the worst at times mostly my attitudes but God Love us through them only the devil would say you are no good because look what you just said or did yes we are to try to do better

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Matthew Richardson Its a distraction. Christians fighting each other is a distraction from hell. It's all vanity.

Lanina Clay ❤️👏🏾 Thank You! I feel the exact same way.

Say Word Sis!

The problem is lecrae wants to be accepted by other people but he got to understand not everyone going to receive him. He even said it in one of his songs that the industry shut the door on him because the message he was trying to bring. At the end of the day lecrae can't fold just because he been rejected

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It seems he was just In the gospel arena just to gain recognition

Kyle Manning it's something a non believer would say.

It's because Ghandi was asked the question what it would take for him to be a Christian. He replied ( in short) that he didn't have a problem with Christ, but His followers. Ghandi was of course lying to himself, because Christ said He was the only way to God, and Ghandi clearly wanted another way. But it is telling when Christians bite and devour each other, it wrecks the best testimony God asks us to demonstrate: His love. Unfortunately, all Christians fail at this, myself included, and Lecrae feels deeply misunderstood by Christians. I still don't understand why he is doing a lot of what he is doing and I get frustrated with his newer approach, So I pray for him. He has the same Holy Spirit I do, but a lot more pressure. He also has an inside perspective that I can't see.

Gandhi was a liar. Pretentious people quote Gandhi

Because Lecrae is a human just like us. As Christians, we admonish and lift up. We're judging people and we're not even in court.

Because he has lost some respect for Christians not Christ. He sick of Christians judging others and each other

Noble CreationTv AMEN

Thanks bro

Noble CreationTv you were talking about the correct thing you're right about what the Bible said do not be deceived by man also a lot of people are using Jesus as a franchise and that is very disrespectful in the midst of all this God is showing people true heart's if you go back in the Bible when Jesus had his 12 disciples one of them betrayed him for money so really and truly there's nothing new Under the Sun but at the end of the day all you can do it just pray for those who are disrespecting God and JesusChrist

Amen bro so true.. It's clever deception at it's best..He wants to receive his rewards from this world and that's not cool. I hope He repent from misleading the youth..

amen. all these Christian artists get a taste for fame and money and forget God and the Church.

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Eric Smith That's what I was thinking as well. But before we say that he wasn't a part of us, let's not forget the prodigal son, who the Father welcomes back. I think what really needs to be examined, when someone leaves the faith, are their motives for leaving. Hebrews 10, speaks of apostates, but they are people who had experienced and tasted of God's grace and yet they preferred their sin, whereas the prodigal son really didn't know how good he had it till he left. We must look at the reasons in the heart and more often than not, only God knows those reasons.

Kailey, I appreciate your comments and insights, but I believe some clarification is needed here. This is going to be quite lengthy, so I appreciate your patience to read it all. I didn't say Lecrae was not of us, but if he left Christianity, then 1 John 2:19 stands true. But let's define "leaving." Leaving Christianity Biblically means you left the faith never to come back; this would mean he is an apostate. And apostate, Biblically, is someone faking Christianity though he or she was never really regenerated (born again) by the Spirit. This is spoken of alot in scripture, particularly by Jesus in Matthew 13:20, the second ground in that parable of the sower. Or the wheat and the tares in Matthew 13:24-30. This is much different than Christians that struggle (read Galatians 5:16-26 or Romans 7:15-25) who may not come to church for a time, stop having fellowship for a time, or even reading their Bibles for a time. This happens to all of us as believers, but it is God who keeps us. If Lecrae means this, then it is a common struggle. If he means that he will leave not to come back, then it would mark him as an apostate because we are sealed by the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13-14), being conformed into the image of Christ (Romans 8:29),and the good work God has begun in us He will perform it until Christ's return (Philippians 1:6). Christians are bought with a price and belong to Christ to be His workmanship (Ephesians 2:10). Nothing can pluck us out of the hand of Christ the Son or God the Father (John 10:27-29). These are Biblical truths of assurance; in this respect, no Christian could "leave" Christianity because it would mean we could "leave" Christ. If we could do so, then all these Bible verses (and many others) would be false because God saves us, justifies us, sanctifies us, then glorifies us. Salvation is all a work of God and if a Christian could "leave" it, it shows he was faking it the whole time, which is the reason 1 John 2:19 says, ""They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us; but they went out, that they might be manifest that they were not all of us.' Notice this verse makes clear that if they leave, it's because they are not of us because if they were, they would continue (struggles and all). Yet they left that it would be manifest (or revealed) that they were not of us. If Lecrae one day leaves the Christian faith and just walks with the world, never to come back, he falls into this category. Not unlike the raper Jahaziel, who revealed he didn't know the Lord. As for the Prodigal Son, it is truly about a sinner repenting. The Prodigal Son in Luke 15:11-32 is based on the conversation in Luke 15:1-2, where the Pharisees and scribes criticized Jesus for sitting with sinners. Jesus tells two parables, the second one about the Prodigal Son to give a lesson about why He sat with sinners; because God is a merciful provider who seeks the sinful creation that takes advantage of all that is given without being thankful to the provider. This is a picture provided by the Prodigal Son; He is actually a sinner, not yet saved. It wasn't until he repented, confessing that he sinned against heaven and the father that he came to faith (Luke 15:18-19) and when he came back to his father, his father accepted him back. This is a picture of salvation. But the older brother is a picture of a hypocrite, a fake that thinks he knows god. He represented the Pharisees and this was the harsh point to Jesus' audience. He sat with sinners because God wants to bring sinners to repentance, but the Pharisees were jealous of this (like the older son) which is why Jesus shames them with this fact at the end of the parable. I know we say God only knows the heart, and He does. Yet Christians are to discern actions and words because they flow from the heart (for example, Jesus says this Himself in Matthew 15:18-20). Therefore if Lecrae makes consistent public statements bad-mouthing the "organized" church or even believers and he seems to praise and love certain things of the world (which James 4:4, Romans 12:1-2, and 1 John 2:15-17 speak against), I can only discern by his consistent actions. Does that mean he's unsaved? Not necessarily, but it does mean we need to pray for him because he is in a high-profile situation (which, by the way he originally says is a ministry based on Romans 1:16), so believers that hang on his every word should examine it Biblically, not emotionally. I hope that kinda clarifies my position. I'm not against Lecrae, I actually pray that he understands that this is a spiritual battle (Ephesians 6:10-18) and there are many land mines out there. He needs to be careful. Thanks for reading.

I definitely see what you're saying. I think I was unclear on what was meant by the word 'leaving'. Thanks for clarifying! I agree with you on all of these points. Although, I do believe that the principle of the Prodigal son parable can be applied to believers as well. As it says in Hosea 14:4, "I will heal their backsliding, I will love them freely, for My anger has turned away from him." I think it can be a case by case basis, based on those who are truly children of God and those who are not. But the word is definitely clear in that if we've experienced God's goodness and continue in our sin, there no longer remains a sacrifice for us. Again, I think we're on the same page, but some of these things can be difficult to articulate through RU-vid comments. Haha. Anyways, thanks for the thoughtfully-worded response and have a nice day!

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….no sir, SINFUL human beings are in the pews, just like you….just like me….(Romans 3:10-12…..Romans 3:23)…the Bible talks about how to handle a brother who offends you. 1)take it to them 2)take it to church leadership 3)if he doesn’t repent then treat him like an unbeliever. And also forgive them 70 times 7.

Because y’all are all hypocrites. Y’all despise those who don’t share the same beliefs as you. You don’t love people like y’all claim to do. Your love is not genuine. You Christians are the fakest people around.

Maybe because people haven't seen the beautiful parts. But he's one to talk, he can listen and admire Tupac and ignore all his evil or the evils with the other secular rappers around him yet with the church it makes him doubt being a Christian it's so stupid. Christ, a perfect man, walked among us in compassion and sympathizes with our weaknesses and we as imperfect people should be able to do the same. Hypocrisy is literally in every society, he's just looking for excuses.

@@imrickjamesbitch6574 first of all, what are you talking about? How many real Christians do you know? Where are you getting your ideas of what is love and what is hate? You obviously know nothing.

And the fact that someone like you obviously listens to Lecrae shows a real problem with his music when you are obviously a hater of Christ and Christians.

A. Smith I been around Christians my whole life. You guys aren’t any different from the world you try so desperately to separate yourselves from. You’re hypocritical. Y’all don’t even follow that book like y’all say to do. Y’all cherry pick bible verses you want to live and say fuck the rest. I bet I know more about your bible than you will ever know.

But Jesus never abandoned the gospel

@@bryanhatch6688 Lacrea has not abandoned the gospel either.

Money brings all kinds of temptations. Blessed are the poor...

And you are above reproach, right? Those without sin case the first stone.

You are correct he is. And lukewarm religious Christians dont see this. But will poat scripture saying he who is without sin cast the first stone bc they have no discernment that comes from beautiful holy spirit.

I'd listen to your family. The music industry is evil and you will eventually be forced to choose between God or money....lacrae chose to compromise for fame and fortune. That's why he doesn't stand up for biblical truth...he sold out. He's a man pleaser. Anyone with eyes to see can see that....not the lukewarm tho...they believe you can have God and the world, but God says you have to forsake the world and a friend of the world is an enemy of God. lacrae wants to be liked and respected by the world....that's obvious

No one should have that power.

The end has not been reached, we shall see.

Jasmine Garner exactly

Clearly Ghandi had a problem with Christ since Ghandi wasn't a christian, but a hindu. He lived in unbelief. Though he admired the ways of Christ. He did not submit to him as Lord over All. And there lies the problem

bravo sir.

Lol and if you don’t choose him, he sends you to hell. What kind of privilege is that?

Sho Nuff thank you for the response. Just wanna preface my response with the fact that it’s been 2 years since this comment & I’m still a huge Lecrae fan. Also that as he has shown that his perspective has grown since this vid, so has mine. My view of hell is that it it’s a place that is separation from God & those who inhabit it are ones who have chosen that separation from God is better than being with him. I don’t think God would just “send” us there. We are His children & I believe it’s His will is that all of us be saved (spend eternity with Him.) That is exactly the reason why He sent His Son, Jesus. I still stand on the point that God gives us the opportunity to choose. And that’s a beautiful thing. While Romans 10:9 tells us what we need to do in order to be saved, Romans 12:1-2 tells us that we have to remind our mind DAILY. The way I see it, everyday (& even throughout the day) we need to refresh our mindsets all the time so that we can make the decision to live for Him in all things. Basically, to do all things for His glory. (Colossians 3:17) Have I figured this out & do this every single day? Absolutely not. I mess up all the time. But I keep choosing God because He chose me. He chose you. He chose all of us when He died/rose for us :) god bless you brother

Huh? He shared something extremely personal. Transparency. What is wack about it?

murky thronehawk God loves u

What's the problem?

He's wearing a black panther shirt...Can he not be a fan of comics...?

Holy toledo you're a mad man.

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John McArthur shows the Christian way to deal with racism! Lecrae is siding with the liberals and social justice groups who don't side with God. Don't stand with the sick world and black hate groups to somehow promote injustice. You look like a fool and a traitor! Jesus is who you side with and sin is why folks do what they do. Only the gospel can change a soul not positive words! Save souls by speaking truth of Christs perfect righteousness can be imputed on you if you trust and believe in Him. He changes the soul not rally's with liberals and black panthers and black Hebrews and black Muslims and folks who stand with Egyptology or the black Woman God! Lecraes discernment is horrific! It bothers me because many are following him and standing with his approach. His approach is only creating division amongst believers and dividing race make Sunday more of a segregated time. Let's unite not divide so lecrae PLEASE let the gospel heal not your own worldly ideology!

Lovegod84👑JESUS 👑 last I checked Jesus rolled with a rough crew. He sat with the thugs and whites. He didn't sit on high with a attitude towards other folks. By the way those same folks are out there protesting for your ass for equality. 1419-1965 blacks were either slaves or didn't have full rights. We're only 13% of the population yet 2x more than any race to be killed by the police despite our smaller numbers. The problem is the church likes to be addicted to moralism yet won't do a damn thing when it comes to the real world. Also hint hint the 3 abrahamic religions differ in the messenger. Yet all teach about equality discipline and love. Maybe read what Jesus actually said and stop sounding like a damn Fox News copy cat

U don't want good music..? Would u rather have subpar Christian music, just because it's Christian..?

Ricardo Avila explain then why Paul wanted to die Pay attention to the Bible And how many Christians Felt depressed or wanted to die at times Any real Christian Who carries their cross Will have a time of losing hope But they press on Don't down play others for not being afraid to speak truth Anyone who never wanted to quit Most not really be sacrificing for God It's called carry your cross for a reason It cost much to be a true believer People don't like Christians Bc all the bashing instead of support and prayers

Thank you Lala! You beat me to the response 😂. The walk is real!!!!

Alberto Francesca u need to read more on Paul Not to mention Christ correction On many so called church leaders.. Even he didn't like behavior of many people claiming God Really really read your Bible To understand . You forget Moses You forget jobs friends You forget the pain Paul felt with church Or Christ closet friends abandoned denied him Church people aren't a piece of cake And yes at times a human struggles If someone never wants to give up ever in their walk They probably not doing much to begin with. It's not a easy thing Only God knows how heart. I suggest if you are concerned pray for him But I know most Christians Forget that part

lala gashi . Lala. I don’t we’re you are from . But what I mention lecrae has lost his fire . Sad but his latest album , have moved away from his beginning . Roms 13 , talks about submitting , I wonder is he submitting to any church ,