Shop LECTRIC e-Bikes here (www.rvwithtito.com/lectric) for the LATEST DEALs including FREE Accessories (Affiliate Link - Buy us a beer if you found this review helpful). Also. Have you seen our review of the NEW XP 3.0? 🚴♀(Check it out: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nzzt_p4zpkc.html) Cheers! Brian
I have the xp premium. I find the bike extremely unstawhen you have cargo. I have the front and back baskets. If I put anything in the baskets, the bike gets the speed wobbles super sketchy
I was surprised and thrilled to receive my 3.0 lectric bike as a birthday present from my wife. We had moved from the flat lands of Illinois to the hills of South Carolina. I rode often on my 10 speed in Illinois but with 3 heart surgeries I was very limited riding in our new subdivision of Carolina. Now with the assistance of the lectric bike I can once again enjoy riding just about anywhere and with using pedal assistance I get the exercise I need to help my rehab.
I took have heart issues so I like the electric. It helps me keep up with my wife who is a borderline exercise nut. I just wish I had the better motor. I got stuck on a pretty steep hill once that she just rode up like it was nothing. Lol
I recently watched a review from another RU-vidr and that review pointed out that it takes significantly more pedal torque for the motor to kick in. As I and my wife are over 70 yrs old we don’t necessarily have the leg strength for that. When I called Lectric to talk to them they told me the same…so today I placed an order for the 3.0 Long Range step through version…which your review of really sold me on. Hope to see you out there on the road Tito!!
You nailed it! I received my XPremium couple months ago and it's AWESOME 💥. Living in the Atlanta area we go up and down hills all the time and this bike is perfect. It's worth more than what I pre-order paid. I don't have a thing to add to your review cuz your review is so comprehensive and interesting.
Question: I'm considering this bike and it is suggested to remove the batteries to lighten the load when lifting it to transport. I'm 5' 1" so I want a bike that the seat is low to the ground until I'm more comfortable. I always touched the ground with a motorcycle, but a bike I like my legs stretched out and therefore cannot touch, but that is to be determined later. To remove the batteries for charging will I need to remove the seat to remove the rear battery? I most likely will have the seat in the lowest position. Thank you! How are you liking your bike?
Brian, I have finally learned something else about the folding bike.....stand on the other side when folding so it folds away from you, and lean the bike into your body......your body does not get trapped in the hinge point. So much easier. So awkward the other way around. After a whole summer of doing it wrong, I'm happy to have figured that out. Also....I rarely lift the bike alone....these things are so heavy... take care!
That's how I stand when I steer the front around to the folded position. Only then do I fold the handle bars down. Pretty darn heavy for sure, not to mention awkward.
removing the 2 batteries from the bike helps alot with reducing its weight if you're about to lift it up; it's crazy annoying to do but it does also add an extra layer of security by keeping the batteries separate from the bike when not in use.
Do you know about how much the two batteries combined weigh? I can't find that info on their website. I think I saw that one was a little over 9lbs, but what's the other one? Taking them out would, for sure make it easier I would think.
I have the XPremium. I found it easier when you are folding the bike, remove both of the batteries, remove the seat, stand on the side where the latch is when folding it so the bike can fold into itself, and strap the two front wheels together with a strap instead of a bungee cord.
Someone in one of the videos (they all blur together at this point, so it may have been here 😅 ), suggested using the longer, Velcro straps that come with the bikes, these days, to keep the wheels together. I found one of the Velcro straps but not the other. Hopefully, it’s still around because I don’t plan to leave the bikes unattended on that rack for very long. Alllll that said…I suggest just using a makeshift or real ramp. Rolling that sucker has got to be easier. Of course, removing those 22 lbs of batteries helps, too, and is safer in multiple ways. If nothing else, if there’s room, I might simply lift part of the bike up into the vehicle and then lift the other part, balancing it long enough to fold it, if possible. It might require a step stool but otherwise, it might be possible, once those handlebars are folded out of the way. But that ramp sounds like a no-brainer for the scenario on the video. In my case, my bike rack is almost always attached. So, it’s even more difficult to get the folded bike into the back of the suv.
@@westmcgee9320 It was probably me on the velcro straps. I mentioned it in the XP 3.0 video. I also found a thin metal ramp to try at Harbor Freight that would work. Haven't had the chance to try it out yet though.
@@RVwithTito I’m chuckling because I cannot BELIEVE that you’re mentioning a Harbor Freight ramp. I just decided to get one, this weekend, for this purpose and maybe a couple others.
I really enjoyed and learned a lot from your review here. I just bought the XPremium and have ridden it just once after being one of the first Rad Mini buyers in late 2016, that I rode a lot at first but later hardly at all. Your thoughtful and balanced coverage of everything about this e-bike, particularly the mid-drive idiosyncrasies compared to the rear hub motor drive, gives me great insight as I gain expertise in riding it as well as hauling it around. Thanks very much for the very useful info.
This was the best ever review of the XPremium Lectric. I'm headed their way again next week to try out this model. I originally thought I would just ride out onto the "green" space trails which go for miles and miles right behind the development I live on in Tempe, AZ, but after watching yours and others videos, I'm getting excited about going on trails of which there are many in Arizona. So now I have to figure out how to get the bike onto my RV and off again (I'm a small, 80 YO woman). I'll figure something out. Thanks for putting together such a great review video! (I will put in a good word for you with Lectric).
I'm so glad you found our review helpful. I hope it works out for you. It does take a little getting used to at first, but you'll catch on quickly and really like how it works. Definitely tell the folks at lectric we said Hi.
The 2.0 uses a cadence sensor. The 3.0 uses a torque sensor. That's why 3.0 feels more natural. IMO cadence sensors are dangerous in tight area, like biking around people, making tight turns, etc.
I found that the cadence sensor can kick the front wheel out from under you if you are on loose gravel in a turn. Yes it can be dangerous. Landed on the ground very fast. bruised and bloody.
Very down to earth review and I agree with all of it as a current owner. Very informative. Very in depth. This is a great video if you are thinking about buying one of these bikes.
Great review. I had the XP 2.0 and almost purchased the Premium. I thought the Premium was going to be a huge improvement over the XP 2.0 but learned the Premium had more pedaling power and less throttle power which for me was a deal breaker. I ended up getting a Juiced Hyperscorpion instead. The difference is incredible. There is no comparison but you are looking at spending about $500 more. But it was worth every penny!
Thank you Brian. I have the XP 2.0, and really, it was the weight that kept me with this option. You are pretty fit & strong, and watching you struggle to get this on the bike rack or into your CRV confirmed i made the right choice. I do like the mid-drive option and dimensions for riding, but the dimensions for traveling, even as folded, would be challenging. Ike you, I put the folded bike in a tub & slide it inside our Escape 5.0 for travel. For us, our Escape only has a total of 150# weight capacity, the e-bike rack and 1 e-bike do not exceed thr 150, but 2 bikes & the rack will exceed it. When I have the rack on the truck rather than on the RV, we can carry both bikes. Any way one looks at it, these bikes are heavy. Good to see you took these to AK & hope you had some good treks on them. I didn’t observe them in your AK videos yet it is possible I simply overlooked them. With that said, the battery removal/installation is much better that the 2.0. Glad you called out the deficiency that even with the key removed, one could take your bike. I do like that when I remove the key from the 2.0, it cannot be started. Oh, and the key placement of the 2.0, how awkward is that? As always Brian, love your work & contributions to the world. “More than a feeling ….” 😁👏
Thanks for sharing your experiences with the 2.0 bikes. Yeah the XPremium is bulky, but great to ride. I wouldn't want to carry more than one. BTW - That first Boston album was the first one I ever bought with my own money :)
I just Ordered. No Vehicle to have to Load in or On to. Strictly I want to do Loaded Touring around Arizona. The Gears are the Main reason to get it. I am Somewhat disabled and Need the added Excercise of Pedaling. Have a XP Lite 1.0 and very few miles if someone is interested in Buying it. Sure don't need two bikes. Like the extended Battery Capability for this XPremium Model in White. Intend to add/transfer the Alarm system and put MTB Bars on it with a Adjustable Handlebar Stem to get bars closer to me for better control as I did with the XP Lite. Just gonna transfer these accessories over from the XP Lite to the XPremium. Great Video!!
Two comments: (1) If you find yourself with tired wrists/arms after a ride, just flip the front post around 180 degrees so it leans slightly aft rather than forward of the front fork. Then you are not constantly leaning on your wrists but are more upright. Easy to do; there are RU-vid videos. (2) There is yet another way to use an ebike. When we first got our XP2.0st bikes a year ago, I found PAS to be a clumsy way to control a motor, especially when negotiating a sharp turn at low speed. The Lectrics allow you to lock PAS out completely. So when we ride, we are on a simple 7-speed bike (a heavy one though!) but with the addition of a 1HP electric motor, controlled by the twist-grip, exactly as if you were riding a motor scooter! So now the bikes are far more controllable--ride them like you were on a scooter, and pedal to assist! I have never ridden a more-expensive mid-drive with a torque sensor (not this Lectric), but suspect that would be a very natural way to ride also. Rather than having the motor kick in as you spin the pedals, the rear frame senses how hard you are pedaling and adds motor power in proportion. I use the analogy of Sigourney Weaver in the great movie "Aliens," using that "force multiplier" industrial lifting/walking machine that she stood inside. Poor alien never had a chance.
Ben riding mid drive since 2002. Bafang BBs. Just tap either of the brake levers. Not enough to engage the brakes but enough to disengage the motor. Shift and keep on going. Lust like driving a manual sports car. But the brake lever is your clutch. Takes a little used to. But will quickly become second nature.
Thanks for your excellent review of XPremium. We have the 2.0 step-throughs currently and will stick with them for now. Weight and size are considerations for us. The 3 downsides with the 2.0 for us are -- 1) It is very awkward folding the body of the bike (it really requires both of us); 2) They are heavy and we lift them together to save our backs; and 3) The tires are not very knobby and float on loose/sandy soil (three times, when making a steering correction on this type of soil, the front tire has suddenly plowed sideways and dumped the bike and me). We love how well they store side-by-side in the back of our CR-V toad. They are not too long or heavy to tackle some challenging mountain bike trails. The Premium looks like more of a pavement cruiser than a trail bike. Lectric ebikes are a quality, affordable product that will provide years of enjoyment.
I've tried riding the 2.0 on the soft sand/gravel with no success. The 20" wheels also contribute to their lack of control in the sand. We just stick to packed surfaces. I've had the XPremium on some trails. It performs fine. But it is most comfortable cruising along on pavement. I'm going to try and come up with some tips/techniques for handling these bikes. We'll see how it goes. Thanks for sharing your experiences.
@@RVwithTito I'll try airing down the tires a bit for more contact surface on sand. And perhaps knobbier tires for more bite. Boondocking in the West = "sand". So it behooves us to figure it out.
I'm considering this bike. One thing that surprises me is people complaining about having to pedal with an ebike, these are pedal assist bikes, not moped style scooters.
I learned more, what I'd consider real-world usage, from this video than most other videos that sang its praises without actually USING it. The dual battery for me is a must, as the range on the new XPeak is much lower, and I would use an ebike for road riding primarily.
Sounds like if you want this bike, buy one of the motorcycle racks for the back of the RV. That way you have the ramp and can roll it up on the rack vs lifting to a bike rack. Or design/build a ramp that works with your bike rack. QQQ - have you ridden other ebikes too? Would you recommend this one for someone that is looking for their first ebike? Since you had the older model it seemed you had comparing them more in mind than someone looking to enter the ebike space.
Check out the ebike comparison article I linked to in the description. It may help answer questions. Usually the XP 2.0 is a good all around value as a starter bike. BTW I had the same thoughts about the motorcycle carrier. 👍
Also after the bike is not used in a while you have to wake up both batteries. I found this out because when I was bike riding with a friend I noticed that I dropped two bars like I was using only one battery. The main battery in the neck was the only battery working because the second battery was in sleep mode. Ensure you wake up the second battery before you ride. A good tip to know.
Love my XP ringing on James river Trials hope to ride them other places when the weather warms up. Love the bike we have the 2.0 and x premium. Hope se Y'all on the bike trails or in the camp grounds around Virginia
WOW. GREAT review. I was wondering if my xpremium would fit in the tote I bought because of your 2.0 review. I have had over a dozen ebikes since the 90s and this is by far the best. What I really love is the authentic coasting that I could never get from a hub motor. Pedal, coast, pedal, coast, pedal, coast... I'm in love!
Well, I like to pedal, coast, pedal, coast so that "natural pedal bike" element is missing with a rear hub? Hmmm....I do have a bum knee though, so throttle is important when it flares up. I never thought selecting a folding e bike would be such a challenge. LOL It's not like I can run out a test several before pulling the trigger. I appreciate all of these reviews and comments.
You make the best videos! I like how calm you are and you take your time, very authentic reviews from both of you! Great job! I have a Kommoda that is heavy, also. I bought a rack that comes with a ramp that stores on the ramp. Since I’m solo, I won’t have to reach over to get it up on the rack. We don’t realize how heavy these bikes are! Thank you!!
Seeing your position when your riding you should turn the steering arm around so that you can set up in a more upright position. I seen a video on doing that for lectric bikes. Thanks for your review this is the bikes we want to purchase.
We have the Lectric 1.0 and we are full timers. We find we don’t use them enough to keep hauling them around all around the country. We don’t like to ride them on highways due to traffic and the lack of front suspension makes them a harsh ride except on the smoothest roads despite using the optional seat post and Cloud 9 seats. They are heavy so requires the both of us to lift into the back of the Jeep. I find the frame a little small compared to a regular sized bike. My feet slip off the pedals when I get more aggressive pedaling. We’ve decided to give the to ou daughter and her fiancée.
Well, I liked most of the features but pretty stupid to remove the key ignition ... and no handle to carry the batteries. Need some tech that will lock the wheels & peddle when there is no key. Thus no need for worthless locks. I don't think I'll be getting this when I upgrade or need a new one.
Just found your channel and have been enjoying the time and detail you provide in the ones I watched. Great review of the bikes! The only drawback is the lifting & handling other than that pretty nice machines.
Thorough review, thanks. I wish Lectric had a showroom here in Washington so we could test ride to decide which model would be best suited for us. I believe one would have to travel to Phoenix to test ride. (if it were not for gravity, Melisa would have easily loaded that bike into the CRV)
Thanks. Yeah it's hard to choose. I always say of you can't decide...go for the XP 2.0. It's the best all around value. I put a link to a comparison article I wrote in the description that may help.
9:02 This was a great video to watch. I have the 3.0 and mostly ride on roads. Should of watch this before I started to ride the bike, Also it's something like you said you just have to ride 2 get to learnbut you gave great advice 👍 Thank you
Like your show. You talked me to buy one Came in yesterday 9:26 I love it Thanks again I like your mirror on your bike Where I can get one ? God bless Stay healthy and safe
I take the box and lay it on its side against the car wheel so it will not slide. put the bike in and upright the box, that way you don"t have to lift the entire weight , of the bike. liked your video
Here's the goods: Topeak Bag (amzn.to/3E9hxRe); If not using the Topeak rack, you'll need these (amzn.to/3rir0Oi) I zip tied them to the Lectric rack; The tail light I got from REI, but it's very similar to this one (amzn.to/3riLC99); The mirrors were from Lectric but there are tons of mirrors available on Amazon (amzn.to/3E7mtFV). Happy hunting!
Great thorough and practical review (as usual from you two). How does the pedal to spindle compare between the XP series and the XPedition? Lectric, a while back told me that the XP's they are 5.3in on the "Non step-thru, and the step thru is 4.2 inches. Worth checking which XP 2.0 you have, since the non step thru has higher clearance..
What a great review. I haven't pulled the trigger on mine yet, but I will use your link. There's a lot about this review I really appreciate - especially that your wife is so honest about her nervousness in certain aspects of biking - including not wanting to take her hands off the handlebars. That's a big fear of mine as well. And I also tend to keep my fingers really near the brakes. It's really helpful to find someone else that's a bit nervous. But I am really sure after this review that this is the right one for me. Thanks so much. Also subbed. I'll likely do a video on our channel about our ebikes as we add this to our RV adventures. I'd like to link this video, if you are okay with that - maybe even include your affiliate link. My channel is really small, but, that doesn't stop me 🤣 Thanks again for a great review!!
We're so glad to hear that this video helped you out. You're certainly welcome to reference our video. Enjoy riding and best of luck with your YT channel!
We almost purchased 2 of them, glad we only got one! Either they are all Junk or we got a lemon 🍋😒 , so many things wrong with it out of the box and Lectric solution is break it in ! Well we put a few hundred white knuckle rides not knowing if the front brake would fail or the latch that keeps the frame locked would fail. Each time it's folded I have to adjust the derailer. I think Lectric was just trying to get us past the return period. It was a waste of 2K unless I feel like driving to Phoenix to bring it in to them and see if they say it's normal? They asked for photos and videos and always gave me a canned response. Treated me like a child with my first bike. I'm almost 60 and have been riding bikes since the 70s and owned cheap and. Very expensive bikes from a real stingray to a Specialized. A cheap Walmart bike is built better than what I got. I am really thinking all the YT hype was from creators getting a free $2000 bike in exchange for a good review. Hopefully this is not the case here? If not the company's support is bad very bad!
Sorry to hear about your bad experience with the XPremium. Hope you get it resolved. My transmission was a little off when I got it so I adjusted it. It's been great ever since.
Good morning Brian. You and your wife do a great job on your videos....thanks. Regarding the battery, I have a similar battery on my Rad and the key will shut power off in the third position thus disabling the display and the bike while the battery is still in place. Are you sure your key on the battery does not have 3 positions? (Off, On, and battery removal)
My wife has the 3.0 and I am now looking for a bike. I am 6'4" and can fit on her bike but was wondering if the XPremium would be a better fit. I do see that the folded size says that it is 32 inch tall and my SUV clearance to store them is only 31 inches. It looks like I could remove the seat and make it fit. Did you find a storage bin that the XPremium would fit in?
That's a no on the bin. We've only hauled it on our bike rack (actually took it to Alaska and back). It is a slightly longer bike which would fit you a bit better than a 3.0. You might also consider an XPeak Step Over which is a slightly taller bike. Here's the link: rvwithtito.com/lectric-xpeak
Thanks for this video! I've been considering this bike for my wife since it came out and have been looking for a video that wasn't just testing a brand new model and included some real life experience. Adding both of your perspectives makes it especially helpful. Curious as to Melissa's height as I was concerned about the length of the frame. Also wondering if you have had to contact customer service, yet, and if so, what was your experience? Finally, do you or anyone else know if you can still fold them with any baskets attached?
Melissa is 5-5. I have used customer service a couple times to order parts. They've been responsive and nice but sometimes I got the wrong thing shipped. Yes this does fold but the XPremium is too big to fit in the bin. Hope that helps.
Thank you this is exactly the review I needed. I have the XP 2.0 that I use as a commuter in the city. I had to turn the handlebars around so that I could sit straight up. It looks like I would have to reach to ride the premium. Can I handlebars be adjusted to eliminate any reach?
I don't think the reach is much different than the XP. They have the same adjustments. If it's a problem, there are several different aftermarket handle bars you can get that will work.
Great comprehensive video sir.... always love Canada as well....I live just across the border Tonawanda near buffalo. Appreciate the great vids keep up the great work!
@@frederickv.9300 If I had $4000 to spend on a single ebike, Then I could probably spend another 20% on a good rack. However, few can justify spending 50% or more than what they spend on an ebike. The one Tito recommends is currently $360 on Amazon. That seems a little more in line with the cost of the Lectrics.
I must have missed the battery ranges how many miles? I have a custom Trek 4500 26" hardtail with the Bafang BBSO1 750w & 48v-10 ah battery. The range is not as good only aprox:15-20 miles flat & hill riding should've gotten a larger battery 52v- 25ah. Probably the Lectric Xpremuim 3.0 range longer & cost maybe less.
Hard to say with out riding it. I took a few measurements though. At it's lowest position, the top of the seat is around 32". So she'd have to slip off the seat to stand up. The arm length to the handle bars is around 20" slightly leaning forward. The XP Lite is the smallest of the LECTRIC bikes, but without all the bells and whistles.
I watched a video about loading the bikes onto the bike rack. They lifted the front on first and then the back. They never lifted the whole bike at once. I don't have that strength any more so must try alternatives. Will that help you? I don't have that rack yet but am investigating...... I want to install it on the front of my F150 when towing my RV.
It depends on the bike rack. Since we also tow our car, the bike rack is a little higher. I've tried several ways trying to find the most efficient way. Each has its challenges. Using a motorcycle ramp would be a good thing to try.
Just curious why you don’t have your bike rack on your tow vehicle instead of the motorhome? Great review… we bought a pair of 2.0s as we just plan on basic transportation and don’t plan on extended rides… at this time at least.
Here's the one we use (amzn.to/3y3vw72). It's big enough to completely cover both bikes (I use bungies to take up the slack). It get's pretty beat up on the road. So I just get a new one each year.
This is the only ebike from Lectric that has a 750w hub motor, I think! I weigh around 330 pounds and I believe I need a strong motor. But I don't think that I can lift the ebike...too heavy for me. Do you have any suggestions for me, please?
Excellent, and practical review...Thank You! I just purchased an XP 3.0 and really like it. For me the weight is quite manageable. The bike's performance is very good, especially on steeper hills.
The pas difference is big. I really hate the way the xp 2.0 does it. Each pas step is to a certain speed so like pas 1 just stops assisting around 7 mph or so. Pas2 goes to like 12mph and then quits. My wife of course likes the area in between and I constantly have to jump to pas2 to catch up with her. It looks to me like the premium uses a constant pressure system that just keeps going up for higher pas levels. Which is a much smoother and less hazardous way to do it. The old way can actually be dangerous when you are turning a tight circle because if even pas1 kicks in it applies high torque to get you to 5mph right now. Which can send you off the trail down a ravine or cliff. You have to be careful with the xp2.0 controls and you learn quick just to leave pas off when maneuvering or just use the overly sensitive hand throttle to ride it like a motorcycle. Which was hard for my wife to learn because she never had motorcycle riding experience. Love the bikes but they have room to improve for sure.
Yes. The torque sensor has a much more natural feel and responds directly to your pedaling. I believe LECTRIC has recently made changes to the 3.0 pedal assist to dial back the power and make a smoother transition to PA levels. I'll probably be checking that out soon on our 3.0s. They also now come with hydraulic brakes.
We haven't carried two 75lb bikes. The second is normally smaller. Here's the rack we have mentioned in the video description. amzn.to/3ofowzM The Hollywood racks are also popular.
Anyone know what a ramp is? loading this would be a great deal easier with one either in the tub or by itself. add taking out the batteries first, something like a 15 lb difference would make the bike in any configuration a heck of a lot easier to handle.
Great video! If you don't mind my asking, how tall is your wife? My wife is 5'4" and I'm a little concerned that the 32" minimum seat height may be too high. Lectric shows a rider 5'2" - 6'4" can be comfortable, but I'd like some feedback from users. Thanks in advance!
@@sgarcata Great. There aren't any hills in the neighborhood behind their building. So you might ask if there's a spot to try it going uphill. Good luck!
I put my order in for an XP 3 a week ago. I'm really looking forward to getting it. I've trained my dog to get into the trailer (bought from Aosom... it's big but very well designed and much cheaper). Woo Hoo!