Love how easily Lizzie adjusted to her vamp self lol it made her dynamic with Hope so much fun to watch. Lizzie is a smart witch and a quick study! She'll be a fine heretic and make her mother proud.
Nah Lizzie has a massive admiration, respect and attachment to Hope even though she sometimes wouldn't admit it what she's been doing since Hope turned is mostly just rage which will wither down eventually.
No offense to hizzie shippers but don't assume this as a elena and damon thing, Lizzie may be gay by some degree bur she isn't inlove with hope and it never was clearly stated, she's just the same as any hybrid turned from hope,think about it all she kept saying was becoming a vampire so she and josie don't have to kill each other and that's what she's grateful for.im standing by this belief and no one can say otherwise that will change my mind unless the writers confirm it themselves
Okay but this literally makes Lizzie the strongest Heretic out there because she didn't die with regular vampire blood like the other heretics but Tribrid blood so she is basically siphoning Hope's magic forever basically and not to mention throughout the centuries Lizzie will just gets stronger.
tribid blood is still vampire blood nonetheless, it would only make a difference if lizzie was a wolf then she would be a hybrid. she's only siphoning her vampire side
@@yussufolatunji1753 no, the Heretics were a group, they never added members. The only Heretic left alive is Valerie, and just because Lizzie became a hybrid doesn’t make her a heretic, same with Kai
Not really. She hasn't made Lizzie do anything serious + she is somewhat merciful despite having her humanity off and in the promo seems to be teaching her how to adjust to being a vampire. Along with all this if Hope dies so does Lizzie due to being part of her sireline so them partnering up to prevent her death isn't really a crime or any more a danger to Lizzie than leaving her.
I feel like her real problem is killing alaric Since her friends tried everything to bring her humanity back but couldn't I think that's what she admitted in the chamber and what got her out was his key
@@flame_ofhope nah there’s no such thing as a witch sire, there’s only a vampire sire, and for vampires to be sired, there needs to be feelings included as a human.
@@gm.8805 nah we just didn't see it. Writers clearly spotted that sire between werewolves & Hybrid caused because of their natural connection as a werewolves. Because of unnatural origin of vampires they doesn't have such thing as a sire, its only Elena's emotional drama. But witches like werewolves natural creatures, so they can be sired to Hybrid.
Okay but who’s idea was it it use Hopes blood in the first aid kits? The Originals made a whole plot around how bad it is if hope gives her blood out to people and crating hybrids, but then Alaric just goes ahead and does it for the first aid kits? Common Alaric.
They use it to cure wolf bites. Like when MG was bitten by Raf on season 1, Alaric said it was Hope’s blood that they have as reserves since it’s only the hybrids’ blood like Klaus’ that can cure a wolf bite.
They kept it for Werewolf Bites and probably in case they need to heal someone fast. It actually makes sense since Vampire Blood could heal someone in a pinch a lot better than the other stuff in those kits.
@@WarGrowlmon18 I get that reasoning. But we’ve seen how much the magical world hates the idea of the hybrids. It would have been smarter to have an ordinary vampire blood in the first aid kits and have Hopes blood somewhere more secure but still available if they need it for a bite. We’ve seen that were wolf bites take about a day to fully kill a vampire giving them plenty of time to get Hope’s blood to them. It’s sad that the show is ending because we lose a lot of cool stories they could have done. Like some of the younger wolves getting lose on a full moon and MG and Kaleb maybe having to run from them while the rest try to track them down. Or having an older vampire break into the school to get Hopes blood to become a hybrid. There would bound to be vampires that want that power. We could have had a witch do a spell to reawaken Alaric upgraded vampire spell and use him as a weapon against Hope. The entirely forgot heir of King Arthur storyline with Raph. I loved the characters but the show really only had that going for it in terms of being the legacy show for both the vampire diaries and the originals. It could have done a lot with what they had and revamped it.
@@DUBS606 Hopefully they save Raf in the finale too. As for the blood, it's obviously not common knowledge that it's Hope's and it's only at the school where people don't care about that quite so much. And it only makes hybrids using already existing werewolves
1:18. To 1:47. I will never understand why Hope and Lizzie never got together. Because These Two have Incredible Chemistry and There Literally Legacies Comedic Duo.
Probably because they’re in love with other people, Hope with Landon and Lizzie, maybe, with MG. Plus, Hope literally just lost Landon and still hasn’t delt with that yet
I think the way Lizzie got sired to Hope is because of he hate for her. Hope killed her dad and faked being her friend plus she killed her. I don't think Lizzie ever really got rid of her hatred for what Hope did. In TVD we learn that in sire bonds come from strong emotions before being turned. Elena was in love with Damon. Tyler was grateful to Klaus for making it to where he didn't have to turn unless he wanted to. Henry was grateful that Hope made him strong so he could stand up for himself and Lizzie hated Hope, that may have been strong enough to sire her to Hope.
No Lizzie is sired to Hope because if you watch the Originals her father was also could sire all hybrids with his blood. And they mentioned it’s the same for Hope because she’s the first Tribrid like Klaus is the first Hybrid.
With Lizzie and Hope and their sire bond it's like with Tyler and Klaus, you don't need strong emotions to create a bond, that's how it works, it's not like Lizzie was in love with Hope like Elena and Damon. Remember that guy Tyler turned into a hybrid with Hope's blood while she was still in Hayley's belly? He also had a sire bond with Hope, even though he didn't know her.
she's sired same reason Tyler was sired to Klaus. Klaus turning Tyler from having to turn every month. Hope turning LIzzie saved her from having to die or kill her sister in the merge.
But doesn't a sire bond between vampires only work when the sired vampire already has some feelings for the vampire that turns them, if am not mistaken isn't that what a witch told Stephan and Damon when Elena was sired to Damon 🤔
I realize these posts are a year old... But the tribrid already breaks So many rules... That If it fits perfectly for her to just, sirbond anybody She turns regardless of feelings. Which might explain how lizzie was able to break the sire bond by sheer force of will... Maybe when she was turned hopes blood forced Feelings into her head that didn't belong to her. That was foreign to her mind, but enough to sirebond her.
That explanation from season 4 was for humans who becomes regular vampires. Damon stated earlier in season 3 that it was very rare for vampires to become sired, but that it could be way more commons for hybrids like Tyler. This already impied the rules could be different for hybrid species, or at the very least those made by Klaus. The various shows later confirms that by showing that every hybrids made by either Klaus or Hope were automatically sired to them, and that the only ones who weren't sired to their maker were made by regular vampires like Lily and her Heretics (who are by definition Lily's hybrids). The "enhanced the feeling already there as human" explanation also doesn't really apply to Lizzie, as even if you argue she may have repressed her feelings for Hope as a siphoner, her first action as an heretic being an attempt to kill her maker directly contradict that. She openly commented how gross it was that Hope could make her do whatever she wanted without her conscent, and constantly tried going against her sire bond every time Hope ordered her around. Her situation was very clearly similar to Tyler's, who deeply wanted Klaus dead but couldn't stop himself from obeying him.
@@gm.8805 she's sired same reason Tyler was sired to Klaus. Klaus turning Tyler from having to turn every month. Hope turning LIzzie saved her from having to die or kill her sister in the merge.
For people going on about how she's part of Hope's Sireline, Hope doesn't actually HAVE a sireline as she is Nature's loophole. The Hybrids created from her are actually considered to be "unsired" which was an important part of that spell to sever the sirelines in TO Season 3. The link was also part of Esther's spell to create the Originals which was NOT used in her creation.
Not true if they explicitly state in The Originals that hope has multiple hybrid sires who listen to her there was a huge plot line on how the only unsired vamp is Hayley because hope is her daughter who turned her and it’s her blood
@@that617Klaus used Hope’s blood to make more hybrids after Hayley was captured, and they could still be alive. Hayley was the only unsired vampire in season 3, the only one outside the original sirelines
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Hope can make Vampire/Witch hybrids... not a Vampire/Witch Heretic.... Hybrids. Witches who can be immortal vampires and keep their witch powers and become sired to Hope just like how werewolves who were turned into vampire hybrids, became sired to Klaus for freeing them from turning every full moon... #OMG #WHATIF
Well for starters hope’s blood is far more powerful so there most likely would be a sire bond between everyone she turns from hybrids to vampires to heretics. Lizzie and hope share a bond of love like sisters to begin with and Lizzie is probably grateful she no longer has to merge with her sister.
@@Mcherri fair enough but the sire bond for lizzie is gigantic pain in the ass since lizzie wants to kill hope but she can't in fact she can only do the opposite protect her.
@@slayer952 it’s not just the sire bond that prevents Lizzie from killing hope. Hope is literally her sire and an original if hope dies so does Lizzie and everyone hope has turned with her blood which is a couple hybrids as well.
@@Mcherri I'm aware of that fact I remember for tvd when finn died sage and anyone she turned died then kol's line then Elijah's but have a feeling if and when lizzie breaks the bond she'll still try to kill hope even if it means she dies too cause like it or not hope has gone full niklaus and for the rest of the world that's not a good plus lizzie just might be the weapon needed to stop her I said this a few episodes back the only way to fight something that cannot be killed is with a weapon that is unkillable.
@@slayer952 hope will get her humanity back as the professor reminded Lizzie she is in a extremely dark place at the moment I’m just surprised she didn’t turn early on and switch off early on with the amount of trauma hope has gone through is ridiculous.
WHAT?! I always thought it was gonna be Caroline's blood that would turn the twins I mean, they were inside caroline's belly, they shered her blood, right?
@@audreymarie9646 Oh, I always thought they had. But it makes sense when you think about it. If they had, then they would problably hava magic of theire own. The truth is.. the storylines of TVDU are a MESS! You never know what is the deal happening.
If lizzie turn her humanity off the bond will be broken I think when hope get hers back lizzie will lose her humanity and then be a threat to the school
No Tyler didn’t have any feeling for Klaus it just has to be a strong feeling. Tyler was grateful because he didn’t have to turn into a werewolf. Lizzie is probably grateful too even if she hates hope right now
Her blood because it’s vampire blood can turn hybrids and humans and witches to vampires. However hopes blood is far more powerful so it creates a sire bond between her and the people she turns with her blood Lizzie not being smart enough to realise she drank hope’s blood.
@@Mcherri Her blood cannot turn all witches into vampires. Online siphoner witches can become both Vampire and Witch otherwise it’s impossible. Hope’s blood can only create Hybrids and normal vampires.
@@Mcherri that's not how the sire bond works. The sire bond is primarily created when a hybrid turns because they feel grateful that they don't have to uncontrollably activate their curse, turning into werewolves on the full moon. The sire bond is the gratitude of that bond. Lizzie is cursed in the sense she is destined to kill her sister in the merge (you can argue it's not killing, but one no longer exists, so I say it's death), becoming a heretic with Hope's blood has stopped her from ever having to merge. That's what she feels grateful for. The other way, is if you have deep feelings for someone, this can (but very rarely), create a sire bond. We saw this with Damon and Elena in The Vampire Diaries 😊
That’s what I be saying. Ever since she became the tribrid, she only uses her witch and vampire abilities. The only time we see her werewolf powers as the tribrid when she gave Malivore “the full tribrid tour” when she became a tribrid the same episode
