Тёмный

Legacy of Kain Soul Reaver Remastered: Art Style Misfire 

REPLAYRS
Подписаться 31
Просмотров 3 тыс.
50% 1

Опубликовано:

 

21 окт 2024

Поделиться:

Ссылка:

Скачать:

Готовим ссылку...

Добавить в:

Мой плейлист
Посмотреть позже
Комментарии : 170   
@gabrielcaro
@gabrielcaro 20 дней назад
I agree with you on the art direction. I think the design shapes should be more sharp, and color schemes toned down. Thank you for your opinion.
@nightly_85
@nightly_85 20 дней назад
i think the remastered version of raziel works well, many of you may have forgotten but raziel does not have a lower jaw, so the new shape of the face reflects that better.
@blackreign92.
@blackreign92. 20 дней назад
That’s what I said too. The mask isn’t meant to represent a guy hiding his face. It’s there to cover up the fact that he’s literally MISSING half of his face. I even said as a kid right after the opening movie “why does he look like he’s covering a full face when he’s missing his jaw?” My dad had to explain to me it was just the graphics of the game.
@Citizen_JV
@Citizen_JV 12 дней назад
I Agree
@kalacs32
@kalacs32 20 дней назад
I agree with the people calling bullshit. Only the too bright colours are objective. It could've been much worse, much less faithful, the shapes are fine, LOK forums seem to agree. Stop generating negative press where there is none. We should celebrate that this even exists and make sure it succeeds, unless the developers majorly fuck up (as they haven't) So that LOK is not lost, as it was about to be because of no compatibility on modern systems.
@TheDiamondSea
@TheDiamondSea 20 дней назад
I'm hype about this remaster and glad it exists but I agree with you man.
@jandoe2576
@jandoe2576 4 дня назад
You are blowing things way out of proportion here. I agree with a few things, but calling it crap from a trailer with a few seconds of actual new ingame footage because YOU don't like it is absurd. Not liking a soup is one thing, but saying it's awful and insulting the chef over it, is just a dick move.
@abx786
@abx786 19 дней назад
i agree with everything in this video - definitely needs to darker and more true to the tone of the original.
@peterhill4429
@peterhill4429 20 дней назад
I have to agree. I'm super hyped that we've finally got another installment in this franchise, but the art style is wrong, it should be dark and gritty not cartooney...
@chewface
@chewface 20 дней назад
I'm just glad it exists, period. Ain't gunna get too picky.
@Citizen_JV
@Citizen_JV 10 дней назад
My thoughts, Exactly
@roxas3soraxxx
@roxas3soraxxx 20 дней назад
modders will fix this game cause i am very sure the company wouldn't dare redo work that's already done sadly, but they would have my respect if they did
@AngelZaprianov
@AngelZaprianov 21 день назад
I can say only one thing... Great work for the video!
@Cat-ee-jik6715
@Cat-ee-jik6715 20 дней назад
I agree with you in part, although I'd say lets wait and see what happens with this game. It's early days. I'm very glad a remaster is getting done although I have an issue with the graphics as well. Notably the overall more gaudy look and the slight fluorescence of Raziel's skin. He skin should be a shade or two darker, EXCEPT when in the spiritual plane. A lighter hue would match the colour and ethereal visual aesthetic and characteristics of the spiritual plane. The theme of the game overall is very dark, the colours and their tone need to reflect that. Overall a straightforward fix. *Edit* Also the decision to 'round out' Raziel's lower face makes sense. He doesn't even have a jaw after falling through the abyss. He's just a husk, after all. You could argue that the scarf facial covering should also breeze about more as he fights, perhaps even occasionally revealing the soul devouring maw underneath. THe mask covering could be elongated slightly to match the original shape of his features more closely. Raziel is a kind of hero in the story, but the game makes it clear that he could also be a villain (you can choose to kill ordinary humans and devour them as well if you choose).
@00cadillo00
@00cadillo00 21 день назад
First you really need to relax a little. Keep in mind those PS1 low-poly versions should not even be considered a starting point when remastering a game. Source material such as concept art, original character designs, cinematic renders and other promotional depictions are the main reference here. The closer these characters look to what artists initially intended to portray the better. What you might perceive in terms of shapes, colors, lighting and such details as "the right aesthetic choice" is literally what your brain made up back in the day due to lack of better definition and graphic quality. Let's also take into account how improved physics and lighting effects play an important role here. Have you even taken the time to consider how the wraith blade should project its own light into te main model? Or how rays of light coming from different angles should bounce, reflect and cast all kinds of shadows around the models? 1999 PS1 graphics could not even dream of such visual treats so chill out for a second and enjoy the ride. Hopefully supporting this remaster will pave a way for them to develop a proper "remake" where a darker, grittier, ultra-realistic and hyper-violent version of Nosgoth will delight us all.
@Roach22
@Roach22 21 день назад
Well said!
@station-7
@station-7 21 день назад
Maybe if you feel the need to write a novella about a differing opinion, it’s you that needs to relax a little…
@Roach22
@Roach22 21 день назад
@@station-7 Do you think this person’s comment above is a novella?
@HeavyInstinct
@HeavyInstinct 20 дней назад
I could not possibly agree more.
@REPLAYRS
@REPLAYRS 20 дней назад
It is because I considered the limitation of the PS1 that I included the graphics from Defiance in the comparison. Because I understand graphics and technology I provided examples of how simples changes to textures, like desaturation and tone correction, could make a massive difference. Do you think the Remastered one looks closer to the original than the ones I edited?
@Roach22
@Roach22 21 день назад
Yeah, some of the models don't look like faithful recreations of the original ones. But honestly, I think they're better "overall" than the original. You can play each game in higher resolutions, higher frame rates, improved controls and camera controls. And for people who really want the original art style, you can play the game with the original graphics.
@Soul_Free
@Soul_Free 21 день назад
Yeah, they look better overal. I feel like the proportions (looking at the head being a bit bigger) are what enhances that "cartoony" vibe some say they feel, but they look amazing anyways. It's like a point in between Defiance and Soul Reaver 2. In the time before release they might tweat some things like the lighting, or they might not. Either way, I'm excited to experience all these upgrades, specially the interactive map and the possibility of restored content.
@SchoolOfWolf233
@SchoolOfWolf233 4 дня назад
We literally have the exact type of mindset on how legacy of kain games should look like. So I confidently agree with you and hope they do take our feedback into consideration and the final version will be very good. I think you have done a good job of presenting the fixed versions on how they could improve with it aswell. Regardless of flaws, i have pre ordered the game because i really do want to play it again since im on Xbox series x. As a last case resort i may have to toggle back to the original graphics. However I dont know if you've noticed tomb raider remastered has both visual+stuttering issues if you switch to the OG. It looks very pixelated and oh my god visually isnt playable at all.
@REPLAYRS
@REPLAYRS 3 дня назад
Indeed, switching to old/classic/original graphics is pretty much the same as playing the original versions, which we already are able to do. I screen-cap all the footage on this video. The games are playable, in fact, LoK Soul Reaver 1 runs great on the Steam Deck.
@SchoolOfWolf233
@SchoolOfWolf233 3 дня назад
@@REPLAYRS Can you try communicating with Crystal dynamics, Embracer, and Aspyr to ensure the remaster will look good and very close to the original? and let them know you are an artist too because they will see that you really have an eye for improving and fixing any issues that may rise with the two games.
@REPLAYRS
@REPLAYRS 3 дня назад
I can only wish I could have that type of impact. I already send them the video but I got no answer or indication that it was seen by anybody. We can only wait.
@SchoolOfWolf233
@SchoolOfWolf233 3 дня назад
@@REPLAYRS At least you tried, your right we can only hope and wait.
@t3nn1nj4s
@t3nn1nj4s 9 дней назад
I'm excited about the remaster, period. I'm sure someone will put out a mod that will address some, maybe all of these issues. All things that can be addressed with different textures and changes to lighting. It would be nice if it was included, but... eh. I'll take it.
@ozberkalpay
@ozberkalpay 20 дней назад
Umm... so your fix was to give Raziel a more pronounced jaw so he could have a longer head? Raziel has no jaw.
@DanteBellin
@DanteBellin 20 дней назад
True, but how can Raziel speak with no jaw🤣
@ozberkalpay
@ozberkalpay 20 дней назад
@@DanteBellin magic :)
@GearsofCoss
@GearsofCoss 19 дней назад
Don't forget the desaturation! VERY big change to this "horrible" design 😂
@Citizen_JV
@Citizen_JV 12 дней назад
My thoughts, exactly
@jeanogato3327
@jeanogato3327 21 день назад
Y'all lucky to have a remaster. Stop shitting on Soul Reaver 1 and 2 Remastered
@JomboyTonesAgain
@JomboyTonesAgain 20 дней назад
Multiple things can be true at once bro
@chaser1254
@chaser1254 20 дней назад
You sound like a slave XD.
@Sikanda.
@Sikanda. 20 дней назад
Fans have been praying for decades, after many cancelled games and rumors we finally have a real remaster! I think many of us wanted a proper remake instead but I'm grateful It's happening. I'm not fond of the comics style cover art or the tone of the trailer but that's honestly nitpicking. I don't have any issue with Raziel's new model, for me It's a big step up from the low poly however I hear where you're coming from with Melchiah and Rahab's models. Your fixed versions look indeed closer to the original design, I think that could easily be addressed via mods. I'm also happy we'll have some quality of life improvements such as a map and objective status.
@REPLAYRS
@REPLAYRS 20 дней назад
I love these games but they really could use some quality of life improvements indeed, like being able to skip cinematics! I love them, but I don't need to see them in their entirety every single time, specially the super long Soul Reaver 2 opening one.
@Sikanda.
@Sikanda. 20 дней назад
@@REPLAYRS Oh definitely, I forgot we couldn't skip cutscenes. I'm excited for Soul Reaver 2, It's my favorite in the series. I hope some puzzles will have a better flow as well like Janos Audron's retreat.
@Citizen_JV
@Citizen_JV 3 дня назад
@@REPLAYRS They are story based games. They are meant to be cinematic, as they should be. I don't want to skip the cinematics because its the reason why I Love this Series so much. It's Captivating and Enthralling. I really think you are expecting way too much of something that may never come to fruition. I understand your dedication and passionate for this series as much as I am but I really think your High Expectations are way too High and I think that's the reason why you also don't support the Remasters. I understand all the criticisms you provided but I also think, you should definitely wait until the full release of the game. I respect everything of your deep dive on the trailer you provided and you being a designer.
@drewblackmatter6669
@drewblackmatter6669 19 дней назад
honestly i don't mind the new face for Raziel (given his lack of a jaw he should obviously not have a pronounced jawline) so much as i mind his color scheme, especially his wrist bands and knee guards. This Raziel looks clean, he looks sleek...which goes completely counter to what he is supposed to be. Raziel's whole deal is that he burned for eternity in an watery abyss, and thus most of his skin and clothes have disolved overtime. It makes sense why he would have a more scruffy, dirty, and almost disheveled look to his attire, because what constitutes as an attire for him is more or less a bunch of rags of something that was once important to him. Honestly i don't get why they didn't just do a complete graphic overhall in the same vain as something like RE4. This series could have seriously used a more realistic grimdark approach to its designs. And if they still wanted to do a Tomb Raider esque remake like they did here, they should've made sure to rettain the gloomy disheveled feel of the original games. Its not too late to fix it, given its not out yet. But something tells me they won't bother.
@REPLAYRS
@REPLAYRS 19 дней назад
I've thought about the type of Remake I would like to see for this franchise, mainly because I think combat could use more than a few tweaks, but my main concern is that the story and voice acting of the originals is so amazing, I wouldn't want it changed. Nonetheless, the idea of having a Legacy of Kain that looks and plays like God of War 2018 is compeling to me.
@Metalmudo
@Metalmudo 21 день назад
I agree that some of the textures ( not models, those are two different things ) look overly bright... but the remaster is going for that CGI model you see in SR1/ SR2 and Defiance cutscenes of Raziel and its the closest you can get... for me after playing LoK since Blood Omen 1 came out im happy about this regardless how it will turn out
@kuchiku-kanzo759
@kuchiku-kanzo759 20 дней назад
Most remasters take this same turn. Brighter characters. Small changes here and there. I'm not tripping at all. If the remake is a stepping stone for a remake or continuation of some sort. Count me the hell in.
@balderdasq8987
@balderdasq8987 16 дней назад
The description on steam implies that you can switch between old and new graphics, so even if the new graphics end up ruining the visual style we'll still have a decent port either way.
@ChronicDreamer1st
@ChronicDreamer1st 16 часов назад
Wow, every single one of your fixes actually looked way better than what they showed in the trailer. I really hope they figure that out sometime before release . . .
@charlesgann2507
@charlesgann2507 20 дней назад
If you were a true fan you would still support this .. this may be the only thing we get from the series, its just SOMETHING. Should be grateful to even get something like this, this is an IP that was stuck in limbo and was doomed to stay in limbo
@ArcaneMontane
@ArcaneMontane 21 день назад
Totally agreed, good job on the fixing images, they are better than what has been presented. I also find new geometry of characters pathetic, Raziel's square face made him iconic. Let's see how the community can listen to this and see. You need to get your video viral.
@HeavyInstinct
@HeavyInstinct 20 дней назад
Nope. Raziel's square face is a direct result of the technology available at the time. You really think the artists original intention was to make him look like a collection of polygons?
@koopinator20
@koopinator20 20 дней назад
I agree that the art style ain't like the original or close to faithful i'm more concern that they might be censoring the game since someone mentioned it on steam. I would agree with the change you suggest for melchiah being better and more closer to how he should look. I would ask did they even ask the previous art directors or developers who did the designs for game and characters for direction or some suggestions of the art to keep it cose to faithful to the original because if the current developers are changing the art to fit their vision like some one mentioned for demon souls then you got a developer problem. If they were trying then i wouldn't be concern about it as much. But i do think they developers should at least see this video to see that some fans are disappointed with the art direction and get feedback to see if they can change things quickly but i am in doubt they could do it in the amount time left.
@marcusbighouse
@marcusbighouse 20 дней назад
I think Melchiah still needs fixes in his jaw. In the new version you can see a clear perfect jaw, almost like a cyborg indeed. While in the orginal he could barely hold his jaw thanks to the amount of meat around his face
@REPLAYRS
@REPLAYRS 20 дней назад
They already released Tomb Raider I, II and III, Star Wars Bounty Hunter and are working on more projects. I don't think a video pointing out how the art direction is not true to the original and also showing how it could be fixed, in many cases quite easily by just reworking some textures, will hurt the future of franchise. Certainly it is not my intention. I love this franchise and I would love to see it do well, but at the same time, I don't want to see it mutated into something different.
@DuckeryDoo
@DuckeryDoo 20 дней назад
I like your "fixed" versions way more. I also noticed that some models looked too bright/comic. Still happy to have the remaster and will buy it for sure. These changes can probably be made with a mod
@Citizen_JV
@Citizen_JV 10 дней назад
I respect your points of interest of what should be fixed for these remasters in terms of its quality of art direction and tone. You sound like a Professional Artist and I respect that if you are.
@REPLAYRS
@REPLAYRS 10 дней назад
Indeed, I've being a designer for quite a while now.
@Citizen_JV
@Citizen_JV 7 дней назад
There are 2 Reasons why we are getting these remasters. 1. There is a Graphic Novel called Soul Reaver The Dead Shall Rise and is being kickstarted funded and is a Prequel to the 1st Soul Reaver Game. 2. It has a 25th Anniversary on the Horizon and upcoming in 2024.
@REPLAYRS
@REPLAYRS 6 дней назад
Actually, I think they are getting remastered because of the success Aspyr is having doing so. Tomb Raider 1 to 6, Star Wars Bounty Hunter, Legacy of Kain Soul Reaver. I see no reason why they would stop, nor do I think they should, as long as they respect the original games.
@HugoDaSilva7
@HugoDaSilva7 20 дней назад
Yes looks cartonich and less dark, tha face of the boss in the water its a joke, making it darker dont solve the problem. The first thing i notice was the hair, feet and the fingers of Raziel....so cartonich!! Why are they Yellow ??But Im glad to get someting and i will still support it, maybe some day we get a remake AND I always thought a TV series would be a hit. Ridley Scott doing this would be amazing. But this is just me dreaming
@andreaskikinas
@andreaskikinas 21 день назад
You have an artist's eye for sure (and maybe you are an artist). Very legitimate points made. Would you consider sending this video link with an email to the developers team? Why not to have a good feedback? Hope stays until the last moment.. Although you are right that presenting this does not seem they want to fix it darker and more faithful to the original but "retell" the story as the game would be released today it seems😔 The new graphics feel like it is a disney adaptation of LOK😄
@REPLAYRS
@REPLAYRS 20 дней назад
Thanks for the feedback. I'm actually a designer and I've had the privilege to delve into game design for a bit. I send this to them on X. Hopefully they see it.
@JomboyTonesAgain
@JomboyTonesAgain 20 дней назад
Melciah looking like a cyborg just kills me man haha The whole aesthetic is thrown off by the Pixar touches. I honestly might play the game with the old graphics turned on.
@wolfneumann9675
@wolfneumann9675 20 дней назад
Melchiah is wearing the metal mask in the original too, just difficult to see
@GearsofCoss
@GearsofCoss 20 дней назад
People need to stop looking at old low poly/low texture ps1 era graphics as the end all be all of design. The only reason you didn't notice he has metal pieces (Melchiah canonically is falling apart so he's held together through metal implants along with absorbing bodies) is because they weren't able to get all the detail they wanted due to graphical limitations. These aren't botched designs, they are the same designs without the technical limitations.
@JomboyTonesAgain
@JomboyTonesAgain 20 дней назад
@@GearsofCoss metal pieces is not my gripe. The lack of ANY of his body appearing to be made of rotting flesh is my gripe. You guys are clinging to a small aspect that I was never focused on. Low poly isn’t the issue either. Raziel looks better in Defiance and SR2 than he does in the SR1 remaster. I’m not sure why everyone is choosing this hill to die on.
@GearsofCoss
@GearsofCoss 20 дней назад
@@JomboyTonesAgain I think people are defending these designs because they look like they should if the developers weren't limited to low res and low poly textures. PS1 Melchiah DOES look like a lot of rotten flesh, but that's because the texture res is so low that it's just a mess of muted flesh tones... They are using what they had to imply that he's covered in bodies and bones and muscle, all of which you can see clearly in the remaster. The people who are so vehemently against this stuff are people that are just blinded by nostalgia and what your brain interpreted low poly models with low res textures to be. Like are you also mad that he now has feet and toes instead of just a brown blocky stump?
@REPLAYRS
@REPLAYRS 20 дней назад
You are right. This is why I included Defiance in the comparison. It is much higher res than 1 but you can still see the same character, which makes the low-res up-res discussion kind of pointless. Like I said in the video, I think the change in shape and color makes him look younger, which is just wrong. And yup, Melchiah looks way too clean and alive in the Remastered version.
@crhistiancisneros3150
@crhistiancisneros3150 20 дней назад
im just happy to be able to play it in my pc without problems with controls and third party programs to be able to run it
@antonio14799
@antonio14799 20 дней назад
Looks like they going out of their way to make the characters look less menacing
@sanji_senpai69
@sanji_senpai69 20 дней назад
I agree on some point and i'm sure after the release off the game we will see mod fixing some off those issue, it will be beater if the developpement team did it but i know the reality it will be mod by fan to look like you say so
@jack54686
@jack54686 10 дней назад
There's still time before release. I hope they fix it. They are not far off, just a few tweaks here and there.
@Mr.SuperPerfectCell
@Mr.SuperPerfectCell 21 день назад
In the beginning cut scene of the first game Raziel was just as bright if not brighter blue. We haven't seen the environments in gameplay other then a few set peices. I would hold my criticism till we see more gameplay. Colors should not be a complaint. Especially considering there will be a day and night cycle. Dont get me wrong Rehab looks weird but we haven't seen Kain in gameplay yet so I wouldn't worry about it that much. Mind you this is very little in the grand scheme of the two games.
@Citizen_JV
@Citizen_JV 3 дня назад
Agreed
@jtomb3263
@jtomb3263 20 дней назад
The fixed models I agree with, especially the metal plates used vs actual bone. If the remake is good i will still let the devs know they did a good job, however I will use this video to show however some design choices i just disagree with.
@manuelpalacios4413
@manuelpalacios4413 20 дней назад
Personally I really hope these are a great success and luckily they'll do a Blood Omen (at least the 2nd one) and Defiance remaster as well
@vcatkiller
@vcatkiller 20 дней назад
Feel free to stay away from it. Personally I think it looks great. I absolutely cannot wait for it. But you do you I suppose.
@JomboyTonesAgain
@JomboyTonesAgain 20 дней назад
It doesn’t look great unfortunately. But I will still play it. No need to defend such a travesty bro. They did brighten it too much, they did turn a zombie into a cyborg, they did mess with the models in a poor fashion. It’s ok to admit these things
@vcatkiller
@vcatkiller 20 дней назад
@@JomboyTonesAgain I don't have to admit anything. It still looks great to me, overall. I admit it could be better but calling it a travesty is such a stretch it's laughable.
@Acidicus23
@Acidicus23 19 дней назад
@@JomboyTonesAgain First of all, "Beauty lies in the eye of the Beholder" what looks nice to you might not look nice to me. I guess @vcatkiller knows that and has clearly said that his view is personal. Secondly, concept art was used as a source material, not a game that was struggling with technical limitations of the time.
@Troykus73
@Troykus73 20 дней назад
100% agree. Almost insta bought until I saw the screen shots. Who cares if it looks better if it doesn’t have the soul of the original
@kuchiku-kanzo759
@kuchiku-kanzo759 20 дней назад
You can still play it using g the old graphics if it bothers you so much
@meherenow793
@meherenow793 16 дней назад
the original graphics are present on the game; that is preservation enough.
@Rfox305
@Rfox305 17 дней назад
I forgot to add that Rahab does look kinda friendly and his eyes as well as Melchiach's should definetely be deeper red. As for Melchiach's design I believe is indeed an upgrade and only his eyes should be changed
@Rfox305
@Rfox305 18 дней назад
Hey man let me just say I agree with mostly everything you have said. I don't like the art direction one bit. This is supposed to be a gothic palette type of game. In other words, the colors should be toned down. Your example of coloring looks perfect. Now, as for Raziel's face that's where I draw the line. Like another gamer stated , Raziel has no jaw therefore he shouldn't look like it's filled . On that regard, they're accurate. Still, I have been waiting for this for the longest and I will most likely explore the lands of Nosgoth a couple dozen times more. It's my favorite game and series of all time. Let's just hope this "Embracer Group" company didn't mess with Ariel just like they messed with the statue
@Citizen_JV
@Citizen_JV 3 дня назад
My Thoughts, Exactly
@chasingembers6167
@chasingembers6167 16 дней назад
I bought the original releases for PS1 and the Dreamcast. The remaster looks amazing and I'm all for it.
@vegitogtx9600
@vegitogtx9600 18 дней назад
Defiance will always be the better
@REPLAYRS
@REPLAYRS 10 дней назад
It is an amazing game, but changing the game to have Fixed Camera was a crime. Amazing game nonetheless.
@willisjackson8595
@willisjackson8595 15 дней назад
Can't wait
@razorbulan
@razorbulan 13 дней назад
How about to let them finish the product before insulting the art style,etc. They gonna realease this in 63 days until the final product. And you know what even if you do not like the new Graphics they gonna give you the option to play the original Graphics by pressing a button
@REPLAYRS
@REPLAYRS 10 дней назад
Because there is always a bit of hope that if enough people show discontent with what it was shown, and make a clear case for what they want, maybe, just maybe, we can actually get it, just like it happened with the first Sonic movie. Also, I'm aware that I can play the game with original graphics, that's what I've been doing since release. I don't need a remaster to be able to do that.
@OrenRamoManuel
@OrenRamoManuel 20 дней назад
The fixed versions of these model comparisons you presented looks a hell of a lot better. I’m hoping that mods will be available so we can apply some of the fixes you’ve shown us for the Pc version. I’m also hoping that they’ll give us the option to adjust the lighting and color of the remasters with filters just like what BluePoint did for Demon’s Souls.
@MistrzRozpierdalacz
@MistrzRozpierdalacz 11 дней назад
PLEASE !!! Send this video to the CREATORS !! god damn they should include this hints right away !!!!
@TioMegamanX
@TioMegamanX 21 день назад
A missed opportunity, they should have made the wraith blade into its Defiance incarnation, a spectral form of the reaver, complete with hilt and blade as it was meant to be.
@Serandi1987
@Serandi1987 20 дней назад
Defiance still looks very good especially on PC with high presets, 4k and Mods.
@TioMegamanX
@TioMegamanX 20 дней назад
@@Serandi1987 I just wish Defiance mods didn't have to rely on injectors because it means they can't be directly applied to the game.
@andreaskikinas
@andreaskikinas 21 день назад
One more comment to be fair also to the developing team of the new remaster: If I 'm not wrong I think I read that the player can also choose to play with the old graphics too, which is a good thing maybe. I personally do not like to have these kind of choices in games.
@gavinlevy841
@gavinlevy841 20 дней назад
This guy needs to calm down
@kuchiku-kanzo759
@kuchiku-kanzo759 20 дней назад
Dispite all the nitpicking im hearing. I still pre ordered. I waited for it. Its coming and i will have it. Enough said. I have what i wanted. Were only missing defiance
@REPLAYRS
@REPLAYRS 20 дней назад
It was odd to me that it wasn't included in this one. I can only assume it's because of how technically different it is to 1 and 2, but it would've been great to have the whole trilogy.
@beltenebrosgr1904
@beltenebrosgr1904 16 дней назад
I am not sure, but I think in these remastered games that you can change at any moment in the original graphics and gameplay, IF THAT IS REALLY THE CASE, I understand your reasoning but more or less, problem solved.
@huskiesghost
@huskiesghost 20 дней назад
Some of it can be fixed before release or patched. But regardless, the game shouldn't be judged too harshly and the anti-woke weirdos need to stay out of it about the statue because...seriously, it's a pointless argument. This remaster is very important and we're lucky it's even a THING.
@GearsofCoss
@GearsofCoss 20 дней назад
This is some of the most aggressive nitpicking I've seen from a few seconds of footage... Are you really that upset that a statue that you see for maybe 5 minutes in the whole game to collect a power up is slightly less feminine?? That didn't even register the slightest bit in my head while watching the trailer because it's an ancient statue lol, it looks like an ancient statue of a goddess. Raziel's design looks absolutely fine, getting pissed that his head doesn't have the same exact super defined jaw-line is absurd... especially when taking into account that he doesn't have a jaw... As for Melchiah and Rahab, they are much closer now to their concept art. The ps1 graphics were the developers doing their best with the limited tech and resources at the time, being limited to super low res textures and small poly counts, you can even see the same metal piece on Melchiah, it's just not clear because of texture resolution. PS1 graphics are not a guidebook to be followed 100% when making a remaster, the concept art however is... like should the skull on his "wrist" have just been turned into a high-res melting blob face? Cause that's what it looks like in the ps1 version even though its an implied skull... Likewise are you also not upset that his stumps now look like feet and have toes?? OH THE HUMANITY -_- You really should just stick to the original ps1 game because clearly nothing but that will be good enough for you due to nostalgia lol the rest of us are happy to be getting a remaster of an old game that isn't simply the same game running at 60fps and 4k with a slightly updated lighting engine.
@HugoDaSilva7
@HugoDaSilva7 20 дней назад
I understand what you are saying but look at that vampire fish, they really went of the art Direction but Im happy that this is beeing done.
@Lee_Aeon
@Lee_Aeon 19 дней назад
I agree with you. What a waste of time
@GearsofCoss
@GearsofCoss 19 дней назад
@@HugoDaSilva7 Rahab is certainly the biggest change from the ps1 version shown here, but I'd say it still follows the same logic of going off of the concept art. There's some really cool looking concept art floating around and you can see the original designs for his clan vampires (none for rahab himself unfortunately) but you can see where his new design is coming from when looking at the original artwork. (if you're interested in checking it out, google image search for "Arnold Ayala | Legacy of Kain Wiki | Fandom" and should be the first image there with the side pose) I think his original design is again them just doing their best with what they had at the time, which is why is face looks rather stretched and flattened compared to the updated version, but yeah would argue that change IS so big that it could easily be a preference thing of which is "better".
@GearsofCoss
@GearsofCoss 19 дней назад
​@@HugoDaSilva7 Rahab is certainly the biggest change we've seen so far, but I would still say it follows the same logic of using the concept art to fully realize the original creator's intent rather than what they were limited to with the ps1. Unfortunately there's no concept art of Rahab's transformed appearance, but there is some for his clan vampires which show faces that are very similar to Rahab's updated look. If you're interested in checking it out, search for "Arnold Ayala | Legacy of Kain Wiki | Fandom" and it should be the first image that pops up with the side pose. But to your point, I would argue since his change IS so big from the ps1 version, it's definitely preference which one is "better".
@GearsofCoss
@GearsofCoss 19 дней назад
@@HugoDaSilva7 Rahab is certainly the biggest change we've seen so far, but I would still say it follows the same logic of using the concept art to fully realize the original creator's intent rather than what they were limited to with the ps1. Unfortunately there's no concept art of Rahab's transformed appearance, but there is some for his clan vampires which show faces that are very similar to Rahab's updated look. If you're interested in checking it out, search for "Early sketch of a Rahabim" and it should be the first image that pops up with the side pose. But to your point, I would argue since his change IS so big from the ps1 version, it's definitely preference which one is "better".
@henrymagee8896
@henrymagee8896 2 дня назад
Good god! Stop with the winning!!!!!! If you don’t want to play with the new graphics you can play it with the old graphics. Be happy they did something and support it because it is the only way they are gonna measure the interest in a new game and that should be the ultimate end goal. If you don’t like what they did in the remaster that is your opinion and your entitled to it but there is the option to plat it as it was. Keep the focus on what we all really want.
@REPLAYRS
@REPLAYRS 2 дня назад
What I really want is for the franchise to not be destroyed, desecrated and mutated into something unrecognizable.
@craigwright8216
@craigwright8216 20 дней назад
It should have got the same treatment as resident evil 2 remake in my opinion.
@cinemarec5817
@cinemarec5817 21 день назад
good video!
@DanteBellin
@DanteBellin 20 дней назад
If there would be a Remake, I think the artstyle of "No Rest for the Wicked" would be perfect.
@galrocktherock6494
@galrocktherock6494 17 дней назад
This series is my apparently favorite of all I was around 18 19. Played them with my nephew who has past 10 years now. The chic statue i get cause I to am so tired of the woke BS but the lightning can be fixed idk we will see but i will be pre ordering and playing with a big smile 😀
@jack54686
@jack54686 10 дней назад
I felt the same way from seeing these initial screenshots. They are just a little off. The changes you suggested are perfect! Except for Rahab; that one needs more than photo shop. These people's back lash against your opinion is a bit ridiculous. We can still play the originals. We don't NEED a remaster. (if it is used as a guage for public interest in an actual remake, then great. But, again, it's never going to be an improvement from the original IMO). For me, it does take away from the game if the models don't look right. I personally hated the models in Defiance for this same reason. Art direction is a thing. Apparently it doesn't matter to a lot of you people. Sorry, I don't think every game should look like fortnight. Thank you for the video
@dangerg4ming674
@dangerg4ming674 6 дней назад
Honestly you complain for the art design??? You not gnna support for a chance for a maybe get a prequel of raziel vimp life, honestly you opinion is joke for real fans of LOK franchise, a real fan will be screaming of happiness, they gnna release a game with a character that we love, and not making a new franchise like they were going to do with the cancelled one.
@REPLAYRS
@REPLAYRS 6 дней назад
I do complain about the art design and I offer possible solutions. It is because I'm a fan of the original games that I hold any change made to it to a high standard. The original one looks gritty and dark while the Remastered looks very cartonish. If the new style doesn't fit with what I consider is the original style of the game, then I won't support it, but that doesn't mean you can support it. Hell, you can buy as many copies of it as you want in your efford to secure more games.
@shanebaldwin749
@shanebaldwin749 20 дней назад
Honestly I think you're being too picky. No it's not perfect, but really Rahab is the only goofy looking thing that you've pointed out. And they give you the option to revert to the original art style, so play it in that if you like.
@REPLAYRS
@REPLAYRS 20 дней назад
I have to agreed 100% here. And like you said, the Defiance version!. It was already done. The reference is right there. Total missed opportunity indeed.
@razieltamer9667
@razieltamer9667 21 день назад
If they See interés on the IP they can make a other game... But for this kind of videos the franchise never See the World again.
@daveknightgael1209
@daveknightgael1209 20 дней назад
How dare they make a statue less sexy. Now I can't get off to the game! 0/10
@JomboyTonesAgain
@JomboyTonesAgain 20 дней назад
It is a theme, no? Predictable on every remake of a game or movie everytime
@marcusbighouse
@marcusbighouse 20 дней назад
Praise its a remaster and not a remake. We could be having a fat vampire trans vegan Raziel
@Paganichi
@Paganichi 20 дней назад
he is not hesitant at all, he is going to play on release and this is just fake drama.
@RealNoNikName
@RealNoNikName 20 дней назад
yeah.... You are reaching hard ill buy 3 copy's to make up for your ignorance. Also clearly you never played the dreamcast version were the models were a higher poly swap and you would know that yes his eyes glow red and he's still wearing his helmet making it more lore accurate. Needless to say you sir are indeed a fake fan
@superduper476
@superduper476 21 день назад
Cmon, bust out $30...
@REPLAYRS
@REPLAYRS 21 день назад
If only I could do it for every game on my Steam whislist around that price tag... But seriously, I would purchase it multiple times if the artistic direction were correct. I'll have to wait and see. I'm not the only one having these complains so maybe something get's changed before release or shortly after, hopefully. Believe me, I want to be able to enjoy this remaster.
@BlackHorseFig
@BlackHorseFig 17 дней назад
All these videos are going to age so badly when people realize Aspyr always boosts the colors of their remaster screenshots, while the games are not like that at all. Oh, and it's most likely all captured from old work in progress footage. Can't wait to see all these people feel embarassed. 😊
@REPLAYRS
@REPLAYRS 10 дней назад
If this is the case, it is a bad marketing approach.
@BlackHorseFig
@BlackHorseFig 10 дней назад
@@REPLAYRS When was Aspyr ever good with marketing? They are a terrible publisher in general.
@jack54686
@jack54686 10 дней назад
I seem to remember being very off put by the initial Tomb Raider remastered trailer. I thought the new visuals looked ridiculous. But I was pleased when they fixed the it before release, and continued to improve and update the game months afterward.
@lozD83
@lozD83 20 дней назад
I gotta say, there's a lot of nit-picking here. I agree with a couple of things, but I don't think ANY of the details mentioned are worthy of anything other than a comparison video. I don't think these things need to be fixed
@JomboyTonesAgain
@JomboyTonesAgain 20 дней назад
Melciah and Rahab look horrible. Raziel and his colors and shapes make it look like a Pixar version. Sucks man. I will still play it, but the visuals will still be subpar and make no sense
@NeroBaelside13
@NeroBaelside13 21 день назад
Make a statue look less fuckable to dudes and they lose their minds. Also turn the brightness down when you play. The trailer and promotional imagery is likely brightened to show off the new details of the environments anyway.
@JomboyTonesAgain
@JomboyTonesAgain 20 дней назад
Idk why modern designers hate the female body. It’s weird. Every nitpick he brought up does break immersion and simply turn it into a different product. Why even defend it dude? It objectively looks like a different theme on the whole
@Citizen_JV
@Citizen_JV 7 дней назад
With Rahab's Remastered Art Design and Tone, he was, in fact, supposedly to look like that in the PS1 Retail Version of the game before it was cut completely due to technical limitations and resolutions. The saturation and texture of Rahab fits well with him in the confines of the Drowned Abbey where Raziel faces and defeats him to get his ability to swim in water and I'm not even a professional designer or art director in the gaming industry. To be honest, you don't have to be a professional to understand what works and what doesn't. Like I said before, I respect that you are a designer but I really do think you should've done research before making this video but its still good, regardless.
@jfoquendo
@jfoquendo 20 дней назад
Some people just can’t be pleased, no matter what you give them. Meanwhile, I’m over the moon about this! After waiting for decades, we’re finally getting something worthwhile, and I couldn’t be more excited. If you’re not into it, don’t waste your time whining-just don’t buy it and move on. Or better yet, try doing something better yourself, though we both know that won’t happen. This review is absolute trash!
@REPLAYRS
@REPLAYRS 20 дней назад
Well, this is not a review and I tried to do something by providing possible easy-to-implement fixes to the issues I found. I didn't complain for the sake of it. I took the time to edit some images to show examples of how the graphics could be fixed so they retain the original aesthetic and theme better. Desaturating the textures alone makes a massive difference Can you honestly say that the examples presented in the Remastered represent the original characters better than the ones I edited?
@Darkcranio
@Darkcranio 20 дней назад
oh shut up. Art direction is an integral part of games, especially old games that didn't have much polygon. If the whole design and tone of the original changes in the translation to the remake that IS a big thing. "try doing something better yourself" They are asking money for it for fucks sake, they should be open to criticism. How about grow some standards and don't accept every slop companies present to you.
@HugoDaSilva7
@HugoDaSilva7 20 дней назад
I Will buy this for sure Im happy to get more of this world but i have to agreed that they went a bit of art Direction and make it more for kids, look at the hands of Raziel and the fish vampire (dont remember his name)
@kodemasterx
@kodemasterx 20 дней назад
On PC we will be able to patch the wokeness out of the game, the same way it was done to the Tomb Raider Remastered Trilogy, but unfortunately that will not be an option for console owners.
@REPLAYRS
@REPLAYRS 20 дней назад
Modding is something I will definitely will be paying attention to. Like I mentioned in the video, I can't make sense to some of the changes, like making the Bosses eyes yellow instead of dark red or turning Rahab into a frog looking muppet? What's the reason behind that? I have no idea.
@kodemasterx
@kodemasterx 20 дней назад
@@REPLAYRS You how it is now days, Western Devs afraid taking a stand against this stupid woke agenda, but it is not looking great for those publishers that embraced it... Random question, your accent sounds just like mine... Are you Dominican by any chance?
@fozzybare100
@fozzybare100 20 дней назад
Oh my goodness dude.....your nit picking....Just enjoy it for what it is.....a remaster of a beloved game. Who knows....If it does well, maybe they'll make a remake of the game and fix all the stupidity your griping about 🙄
@JomboyTonesAgain
@JomboyTonesAgain 20 дней назад
They botched the visual design 100%. Makes me sad but I will still play it
@Kain9407
@Kain9407 21 день назад
You've got to be kidding me... We can't have anything nice because people want to cry about nonsense.
@REPLAYRS
@REPLAYRS 21 день назад
You can have it, I'm just not going to support it because of the reasons I mentioned. There are benefits of having a remastered, like easy of use for instance. It would be nice to be able to download, install and play without having to tweak anything, unlike it is now, but so far I'm not sold on it. I said that I'm open to support it and I mean it, but only if I see that the essence is respected. BTW, I would love to think that this video is going to be super influencial in the future of one of my favorite franchise, but let's be honest, I don't think this game will lose any sales because of it, nor it is my intension. I'm just pointing out the flaws I noticed as a longtime fan. I am curious though, do you like the images shown by Aspyr better than the edited ones I created? Are you happy with the changes they made to Raziel, Melchiah and Rahab?
@Roach22
@Roach22 21 день назад
@@REPLAYRS You know this new remastered game can be played with the original graphics.
@JomboyTonesAgain
@JomboyTonesAgain 20 дней назад
@@Roach22yep. It’d be awesome if the new ones were good enough to play with but it’s like switching from “Real mode” to “Daytime Pixar mode.” Why even defend it dude?
@Roach22
@Roach22 20 дней назад
@@JomboyTonesAgain Because the games are fantastic and I don't think the game will suffer because the colors are a little brighter. And that's ignoring all the improvements. But again, Aspyr have stated that this remaster will allow you to play with the original graphical style if you wish.
@HeavyInstinct
@HeavyInstinct 20 дней назад
This is just flat out ridiculous!
@tylorwhitmer8698
@tylorwhitmer8698 20 дней назад
It's not crap bro u wanna dish this game then u ain't no true fane in ever since of the word there haven't been anything on this game for over a decade its called a remaster for a reason an look at this look at this awwwww it's not the final freaking cut for release dude they can still fix it before it's release so chill out take a breath get ur grapefruits if u got them out of Ur stomach an enjoy what is being given man if u truly truly 100 percent r a fan as the rest of us u wouldn't dish one of the most amazing beautiful hell electrifying game in all of entertainment an gaming an be happy ur getting something in this new generation that everybody has practicly been begging for as for aspyer coodos to u guys keep it up can't wait till it comes put yell got my support an make sure yell go over ur work before release
@Roody4594
@Roody4594 20 дней назад
Is better than nothing yet it doesnt change the fact that is lame remaster, the franchise deserved a remake like demon souls or at least like silent hill 2. a shame that sony scw it in a bigvway by not getting the ips when they had the chance.
@Paganichi
@Paganichi 20 дней назад
delete this video
@jagstax7746
@jagstax7746 20 дней назад
Are you for real!??? lol, You have idea. It's such a shame, damn I feel sorry for your current subs..
@Sikanda.
@Sikanda. 20 дней назад
He has the right to express his opinions even If you're not agreeing.
@jagstax7746
@jagstax7746 20 дней назад
@Sikanda. Everyone has that right, That's exactly why I can say something. If you guys would even check out the games concept art from around 1999-2001, you would see that their approach with models is to match or at least be equal to that of prerender. When someone clearly stat's their opinions on RU-vid to only have criticism of the product that people have wanted for 20 years, I believe it is just a waste of time. Be thankful, and if that's not good enough, join the team and become a software developer.
@Sikanda.
@Sikanda. 20 дней назад
@@jagstax7746 I'm pretty familiar with the concept arts, I've played all of the games in the 2000's and used to post fan arts. Long time fans are the most passionate and can have inflammatory opinions regarding changes. I don't share the same concerns regarding Raziel or Kain's models (I personally like the in-between look from CG and in-game) but I understand some technical details could have been better. Aspyr did a great job with Tomb Raider so I have my hopes up. But yes I'm very grateful we have something Legacy of Kain to talk about in 2024, even more so a Soul Reaver remaster.
@jagstax7746
@jagstax7746 20 дней назад
@Sikanda. Yeah, 100%. I've seen people who say their fans of the series and complain about the blue in Raziels body. 😆 I think they have never seen the CGI intro for SR2. He was always brighter in colour. It's very obvious that the devs are pushing for an in-between look closer to CGI.
@willlbill8485
@willlbill8485 5 дней назад
Thank you! Great video. They have to ruin everything
@patrikheinonen7645
@patrikheinonen7645 21 день назад
Omg :D meganerd crying about video game... Cringe. Pls stop
@JomboyTonesAgain
@JomboyTonesAgain 20 дней назад
If you don’t like a thing bc it is poor quality then you are “crying.” Give me a break man. Defending the hack job is cringe as hell. It’s ok to admit that the new visual design completely changes the feel of the game
Далее
skibidi toilet multiverse 042
20:57
Просмотров 4,8 млн
1 Subscriber = 1 Penny
00:17
Просмотров 50 млн
Кольцо Всевластия от Samsung
01:00
Просмотров 428 тыс.
Legacy of Kain | 10 Secrets and Curiosities
16:47
Просмотров 90 тыс.
SR1 & SR2 Remasters - Let's Talk About It...
4:44
Просмотров 1 тыс.
This was for PS1?!? Soul Reaver Intro Reaction
13:09
Просмотров 42 тыс.
КАК ПОГИБЛА LEGACY OF KAIN
14:46
Просмотров 144 тыс.
Legacy of Kain | Melchiah - A Character Study
12:55
Просмотров 203 тыс.
How Legacy of Kains Creator Lost Everything
24:40
Просмотров 68 тыс.
What Happened To Legacy Of Kain 6?
18:11
Просмотров 32 тыс.
skibidi toilet multiverse 042
20:57
Просмотров 4,8 млн