It's legal for dentists to put dangerous neurotoxic mercury dental fillings (AKA amalgam fillings) in your teeth here in the USA, but in most of Europe and Canada it's illegal. Neurotoxic mercury dental fillings (AKA amalgam fillings) should be illegal everywhere in the world!
Now i am thinking...illegal in usa but not in other countries, jaywalking is first thing that comes to mind though i know it is illegal in some other countries to
In Sweden any form of violence against a child is in legal terms "assault" (misshandel). We have no seperate laws for hitting a child. If you hit a child it will be treated the same way as if you smacked an adult. It is VERY illegal.
It also makes people of the later generations have a whole different view on spanking children for upbringing. There are, of course, people who still see it as okay but most of my generation that I’ve talked to (millennial) see it as any other form of child abuse and is kind of appalled by the amount of people advocating child abuse in other countries (Although this is obviously anecdotal, I still feel like it carry some value)
@@MrGeneration83 When you're as free as the USA then children aren't people, they're property. I was more shocked that there are any nations in Europe that do not ban physical assault on children (looking at you, UK, Russia, Belgium, Italy, Switzerland, Czechia, Slovakia and Turkey) because the European Human Rights Convention guarantees bodily integrity in article 8 so somebody needs to drag those rogue nations in front of the ECHR.
@@iceteeize I have seen it on some occasions when someone in charge of a crying child has hit out at that child and has been brought to the attention of security personnel in a public place. I didn't hang around long enough to see the consequences of this intervention but in general any form of public violence towards a vulnerable person is treated very seriously nowadays in Ireland. This wasn't always the case and corporal punishment or chastisement as it was called in polite middle class circles was common in Ireland in the 1970's. From my schooldays it still infuriates me that the children of rich and influential people were let away with a lot more than the children of poor and powerless parents. Violence was used as a common instrument of discipline and fear was the common motivator for imparting lessons. All this teaching method taught was the Nazi value of might is right and the bigger guy can lord it over the little guy.
Saying it is legal in the US isn't wholly accurate, basically giving a kid a swat on their backsides is legal, though increasingly frowned upon, but if you hit a child hard enough to harm the child then it is child abuse. Also in some states mutual combat is still legal between adults, so we are a country that just accepts more violence than a lot of others.
same in Brazil. there is even a button on the polling box for that. you show up, show your ID, and what you do in the voting poll is your business and yours alone (besides filming or photographing it,which is illegal, to prevent compelled voting), so much so, that it i guarantee you, there is a dozen of police officers before the booth, no one enters with you (and i mean NO ONE, even if you got a baby or a small kid). the punishment is also true, a small fine. BUT, if you don't show up you can appeal if you got a valid reason (example: you were in ill in hospital, serving the armed forces/police/ working as a medic or essential service personeel, if you were abroad of your electoral home (outside the state if it is a municipal election or country if it is a national election) and in case of out of the country, at the day of the election provided you visit the embassy/contact the closest Brazil embassy/consulate at the day of the poll). but it isn't just a fine, some public services (especially passport) can be suspended untill you get your situation straight (usually by paying the fine or justifying why you weren't there).
I was spanked/hit a fair amount as a child and never thought anything of it until my boss pointed out that it is not usual for someone to wince just because someone moves quickly near them…
Ha! As a black man minding his own business moving around a corporate office it happens way more than you think with white women coming around an opposite corner. "Lol, you scared me!" Me: "Would you like me to make more noise on my way to the bathroom or something?"
@@Distress. Not really. If you fear that any movement near you might be a direct attack on you, it's clear that you have experienced abuse. Except if you do not trust the person to not hit you anyways, but if you were abused by your parents, you probably don't have that judgement for coworkers or strangers.
I've had enough kneejerks from people who didn't even read the whole conversation. TL:DR I didn't consider spanking an abuse if it's one time occurence and I'm not going to argue that spanking is rigth or wrong here, I'll leave that to psychologists. A lot of people disagreed with the former, and I doubt You would have anything new to add, besides just stroking your ego.
A lot of the places where abusing children is illegal dont have specific laws, they just have laws that (and i know this is crazy) treat children as people
Every child I know who got beat as a kid didn't learn stuff was wrong, they just learned to do it where their parents couldn't find them. They literally never found out why it was bad until they grew up and got hurt because of whatever bad habit that they never problem learn to get rid of
@@GriffinPilgrim yea I have seen no proof of that an any way. No matter how liberal your government. All government rules are inforced by force. Thats what law enforcement, code enforcement and the military is. Government force.
Still remember to this day, when I was a kid and was out walking with my dad in Copenhagen. We saw a british guy hit his kid, roughly same age as me (5-6 years old) with a closed fist multiple times, he was then tackled by my dad and two other men and arrested shortly after. Gotta know the laws of the country you're in.
As a Swiss, I can promise you that if a teacher takes the liberty of hitting a student in any way, you will start hearing police sirens within minutes. Edit: before answering something stupid as: "this is the reason why young in Switzerland are drug addict", "this is why crime is up" or any other stupidity thinking than US do everything better than Switzerland, please close RU-vid, go on google or any other web browser and perform a simple search for checking than you are right BEFORE POSTING YOUR COMMENT. I wish you a nice day.
That is a pretty recent practice. In the 90's throwing keys at students, throwing blackboard chalk, giving backhead slaps, that was all pretty common. Older teachers also still pulled ears and hairs. I moved a lot as a kid so I saw this happening in 8 schools almost on a daily basis. I also saw students being escorted to school by police cars for failing to show up at school.
@@picketf an old teacher of mine did throw chalk sometimes, but only when a group didnt pay attention and was loud at the same time and he did not hit with the chalt, he threw it in the general direction to get them to pay attention again
A teacher at my school threw a book at a student and gave him a scar. She told the story some years ago and one of the students raised his hand saying that the student was his father.
As a child of severe physical punishment, growing up in New Zealand spanking was legal until only a few years ago (maybe 15?), when it was banned the only people who cared or were upset by this were parents who had been physically abusing their children, and then telling the police & child services it was a 'spank' and the kid was exaggerating. It suddenly became a lot harder to lie about beating the living day lights out of your kids. Parents have just become a bit sneakier about their abuse. Before this ban was passed, my teachers would see marks and bruises on me and call the police or CPS. Mum would twist the story to 'I'm just punishing her, she's out of control!' (Yes, this 7 year old girl who plays quietly in her room and loves school?) and they would leave. Guess how much worse the punishment was when they left? I have siblings significantly younger than me and now I don't have to worry about that happening to them since I've left. It is not just legally harder to get away with, but now socially too. She finds other ways to be abusive, but finally, there's a line she can cross where she will be legally reprimanded and people around her are starting to not be okay with any of her mess. As a child, when even LEO are telling you you deserve to be beaten and to not complain or speak out, you learn to accept abuse and never speak out again.
I live in Belgium where voting is indeed compulsory. But this also means that it is so well organised. You get your letter which states where you are expected (usually a school or public building, always very close by), vote and go home within 10-30 minutes. You have to vote, but no one can know who you voted for, so you can vote blank or invalid (there is a difference). There is always a party that says they want to abolish this, but they get almost no votes. It's also a public holiday since Everyone needs to vote.
what if that location doesn't suit you? In Australia we have polling booths all over & we can attend any of them, or postal or early vote if none suit. In addition, we have polling booths at all hospitals & mobile polling booths visit nursing homes & remote communities in the weeks prior to election day to make sure everyone is supported to vote. We're not required to cancel holidays or other plans to vote though, if a booth outside our local area suits us better, or we end up in hospital or whatever, we can vote wherever we like. We can also choose to attend the booth that has the best "democracy sausages", cause that's an important part of our process too. We COULD be home again within 10-30 minutes, but we buy the snag for charity instead :)
@@mehere8038 No "democracy sausages" here (yet) unfortunately. The rest is mostly the same, no need to cancel holidays, etc. I've never had an issue with the given location, but I'm sure there are options to vote at another place. Most elderly however vote by proxy AFAIK, but this is being worked on so they can vote in the nursing homes.
I honestly wish voting in the USA was as organized as it is in other countries. I think it should be compulsory but even so, why do I have to go outta my way to find out where I can go vote, when I can vote and how I am allowed to vote. It’s just dumb and I think part of the reason why so many Americans don’t vote. They don’t know where, when or how they can. The information isn’t as available to us in rural counties or even in cities for that matter.
@@mehere8038 German not Belgian but I think similar voting systems. Every german is registered with his main address and got his voting papers (registration, legitimation, a "how you can vote and how the vote will work"-instruction) some weeks in advance. The fixed polling station is mentioned in this papers and often a puplic place like town hall, school, Kindergarden, ...) - I life in a small 20.000 habitant village and in the last election we have around 16 Polling stations all over the little village. Voting is simple: You go there, wait maybe a few minutes (mostly when voting directly after visiting the church, because this is the "rush-hour" at the polling station), show you registration and Id-card, get your piece of paper where you can make your cross, go to the cabin, make your cross, fold the paper and put it in the ballot box. - Done. And yes in germany even prisoners have the right to vote because this right is fundamentally in our constitution and nobody can take it away (except a group of indipendent psychiatrists declare that you are mentally not able to vote, this is approved by a court and the status must be renewed and reviewed every few years). If you are not able to vote at voting day at your assigned polling station you can send (porto-free) a "request for mail voting" back to the office (part of the registration papers) and you will then get your mail voting papers per mail a few days later.
@@williamverhaeghe dam! No sausages? That's the best part of election day :) Not limited to sausages here either, cause polling booths are generally at places like schools, it's a big fund raising event for them, so everything from cupcakes to snags to vegan meals. Here there's so many booths, that it's pretty common to not just use the one closest to home. Voting here is on a Saturday, so lots of sport that day too, so people commonly vote while their kids are playing a match, at whatever booth is closest to the game, or near shops while on their shopping trip, or basically if driving somewhere, people will stumble across a polling booth, cause there's so many people & signs around them, so they're really obvious & people will just pull over & go in if there's parking readily available & it suits them, if no parking/looks busy, they'll do that at the next one they pass. If they're not going out on that day, then they'll walk to their local one
It is completely illegal to slap, smack, paddle any non-consenting adult. Why is it ok to beat the crap out of kids? They are smaller than us, more sensitive than us??? Adults go to jail for hitting another adult. It's INSANE.
I like that you mentioned how Wales joined the list of banning hitting children for punishment last year. We often get overlooked as a place that does implement our own laws and it was a massive deal for those of us working in children's organisations.
How is that enforced though, because the Welsh courts follow English and Welsh law (England and Wales being one single legal jurisdiction), which is made in Westminster
@@willch.2259 There's a level of devolution with regards to the laws that each country sets. So Wales has that in place and it is enforceable. Similar to how in Wales you don't have to have an L plate on a car driven by a learner driver, a D plate will work too, but not across the border.
People often forget outside of the Parliament in London Northern Ireland, Scotland and Walse do have their own Parliament which does make their own laws outside of what is passed in London
I found it TERRIFYING to be hit as a kid.. it was literally traumatic instead of effective punishment. Gotta be honest, it helped so much more to but put in time out or on the naughty chair. That’s because I was forced to THINK about my actual misbehavior instead of being confused. Just communicating and actually being forced to acknowledge it lol..
@@busydadrs5608 Is this supposed to be a good reason to hit people? Is it okay to abuse people in order to force them to do as they're told? 99.9% of kids are going to listen to their parents, children instinctively listen to their parents during direct confrontation (not physical.) And if they really don't want to sit in the chair then it isn't that hard to put them there yourself, you don't have to assault them just to move them. Besides, sitting in a chair doesn't have to be the punishment given. There are numerous ways you can teach consequences to a kid while getting them to think about their actions.
Idk honestly… my mom would hit me if I did anything very wrong and I’d never do it again🤷♀️ i’m probably just desi and used to what westerners call “abusive parents” but I still love my parents, just hold some resentment.
I mean, I (and plenty of others) would argue the complete opposite. Just look at actual evidence, and things like facts (i know, facts and evidence are terrible). Also, your specific wording is interesting. You word it as "normalizing violence" to set yourself on a moral highground, when you coulf have easily said discipline and consequences. School shootings are way up. Mass shootings are way up. Violence in general is way up. Menatl health is at a crisis level among youth. The television show The Sopranos (probably before your time, but worth a watch) lightly explored the argument of physical discipline, and i think we can all agree AJ would have been much better off if Tony wouldnt have been stopped by Carm.
@@jmreeves89 You know that when you said we should look at actual evidence and facts that would have been a nice moment to bring up some evidence and facts instead of talking about the Sopranos? You could have dropped a study but you chose to talk about a mafia show where a mob boss beats his son...
Even if adults do not use violence against children, be it legally sanctioned or out of prefference, other children surely will, and child-on-child violence is not particularly well litigated or properly punished, focusing on punishing parents rather then the children perpetuating the violence
I don’t know about other countries, but at least in Peru if you want to abstain from voting you have the option to vote for “None of the Above.” It’s called voting a “voto en blanco” and allows you to meet your obligation to vote even if you don’t support any of the candidates.
It's universally possible since the vote is secret you can just invalidate your ballot by either not choosing anyone, choosing multiple people or writing random stuff on it.
But you still have to "vote". And hopefully, they do count your vote that if enough people abstain, they do another round of votes. Have never heard it happen, but it should be possible
That's generally pretty standard in most compulsory voting countries. You can also legally spoil your ballot by filling it out incorrectly in some places. The difference being while spoiling your ballot means it is simply not counted, a NOTA vote is often still counted, if NOTA "wins" the election it has to be run again with new candidates.
yes, his interpretation of democracy under law is very missleading. in the US apparently if you want to vote you MUST vote for one of the options, and since the election day is not a holyday there, which means if a large part of the population doesn't vote they can just say "welp, they must be busy, cause there is no way they disagree with both options!" while in the mandatory democracies we can say "I came all the way over here to say YOU ALL SUCK!"
As an Australian, the upside of compulsory voting laws that wasn't mentioned is that because it's compulsory and people need to at least go in and get crossed off the list, it means it is required by law for the independent electoral commission to ensure that there are polling booths everywhere (most schools become polling locations as well as some places like a local Scout hall near me), and that mail in voting and early voting sites are readily available, which prevents the attempts at voter suppression you get in the US of trying to stop people voting in places they don't want them to by stopping bussing elderly people to polls, or closing poll locations to ensure that lines in the "wrong" areas are so long they discourage people from taking time off to vote. Our elections are also on Saturdays instead of the idiotic American system that put them on Tuesdays so you could ride a slow donkey from a farm to and from the poll location without missing church on Sunday. We also often have BBQs set up at poll sites selling food and drinks for charity.
I never knew we had to just go and literally get our names crossed off and that's it. Next time I'm walking in, watching my name get crossed off and just leaving the papers with the person at the table.
@@moustafa2258 mate, if you pay taxes you may as well vote. And you can just take yourself off the electoral roll if you really don't want to. Save us some paper.
I get the sense of we got rid of it we would need to have something to replace it that had different incentives. Like many of them do serve a sort of function as both a knowledge base and connection person. Not always a bad thing. The bad thing is that we don’t have publicly funded elections. Like if we just get that, the lobbying thing isn’t as big of a deal. We also need to pay our reps like enough money that they would vote to ban themselves from investing.
Honestly the entire reason why the US doesn’t have a significant problem with corruption and bribery is because the entire process has been legalized and made a part of the political process. It’s perfectly legal to take money from political donors, and it’s not considered a bribe. Never mind that those same donors might have similar quid pro quo expectations as anyone else making bribes. Definitely doesn’t make it corruption.
It IS one of the most mindblowing things about the US, for me as a portuguese. Ya know, I've spoken english since I was 10.......but even after all these years that part of one's brain where you REALLY slow down and put yourself in the headspace of being a native english speaker and being sold the kind of shit sold by that political system in the US ...........it doesn't function naturally on its own. So when I do stop and consider what it would feel for me as a portuguese (mind you we have a lot of government corruption here) , since I was a child, to have this be normal..........it would just baffle me how people wouldn't blame corporations or private interests more right off the bat.
@@jeanlundi2141 some of us are woke to the degree of corruption in US politics. Those of us that are woke will blame corporate interests. The vast majority of Americans just accept that the system is fine. “We made laws about corruption, therefore it doesn’t happen anymore.” LOL. What those “laws” did was take a practice that had been illegal, and put “restrictions” on it. Totally fixed the problem. No more corruption. Definitely fine. It’s at nearly every level of government at this point, and I don’t actually think it’s any sort of conspiracy.
Here, voting is compulsory. And there is, indeed, no work that day. Except for like hospitals and emergency services, nothing is open. Also, it is illegal to sell alcohol some time before and after the election day.
I got hit with a "switch", a belt, a paddle and a board. Many times, at home and at school. All because I had "problems". Not behavioral problems, but not-finishing-my-homework problems. I fully expected to wind up in prison because I wouldn't be able to finish my taxes on time. Well, I'm 76 YO and I still have "problems". And I see a shrink regularly. Mostly for the moral support I never got as a kid. And I've never been charged with a crime other than speeding.
I became a Resource Specialist ( a case manager for students with IEPs who are in general education classroom settings) because I used to get sent out of my classroom so often I missed months of school some years. Mine were "behavioral" after years of academic failure. I wasn't even diagnosed with Dyslexia until I was 26 and ADHD at 30 while getting my teaching credentials (I'd already dropped out of college once and was about to again) . My blessing was parents who didn't want to beat their children as much as they got beat 💚 even though that was the only thing I feared. I'm so sorry you had to put up with that kind of abuse for educational issues... especially for kids who have internalized issues, anxiety, depression, learning disabilities, language delays Etc tradional educational ideals are straight up abusive. I admire you for being so self aware and being able to take care of yourself where you can. 💜
My bitch of a mother would belt me with the electric cord of a frying pan for my bad math grades. I. was. SIX! I don't give a damn about the troubles my mother had, about how her life had been, was, hard, whipping me to break me of my math block. All whipping did was make me dread math more. I tried poisoning myself with milk and Vitamin D tablets to save me. (I was six, remember!) Didn't work.
It’s worth mentioning that, while it is mandatory to show up at the elections in Brazil, there is the possibility of a blank or null vote if the person absolutely does not want to vote for any of the candidates. It is still secret, like any other vote, and it provides some useful additional statistical information on the political preferences of the population.
In Germany there's a difference between not voting and returning a blank/invalid ballot. If you don't vote, nothing is counted. If you vote invalid, your vote counts to the total number of votes, thus reducing the percentages of all parties. This doesn't affect the winner, but it has an effect on things like the amount of money a party gets from the state.
That is true, although it needs to be stressed that the financial effect is extremely small. I did this on occasion, but other than feeling a bit self-righteous for a few days, it didn't do anything. And I think that's a mistake; there should absolutely be a way to signal that you went out of your way to make voice registered, but decidedly did not give it to any one party. Just like the "none of the above" option mentioned in the video. Or, as other parties are suggesting repeatedly, just change the system entirely. But I'm not sure I will still be alive to witness such a monumental change.
@@pianopolly That's not quite accurate. Sure, one individual will be a minor loss. But then, one individual is also only a tiny fraction of the total voters, so it *should* only be a minor effect. If a significant fraction votes invalid, the party will feel it.
i find it insane that it would be legal for a teach in many states to injure an unknown child in their school without consent but if they did the same to an adult they would get sent to jail. Under what context is it morally okay to assault another human and the only reason is because they go to an educational facility that they are legally obligated to attend? Schools are equipped with hundreds of more humane ways of dicipline
It's important to note that some countries where voting is mandatory, you still have the right not to choose anybody. In Brazil for example, your only obligation is to show up at the poll. If you don't like any of the candidates you can nullify your vote just fine
Same in Belgium. You sign the register, go in the voting booth, and are perfetly entitled to doodle on the slip, give it back blank, make it invalid by crossing all of the names.... Because the vote is secret. Those tend to be counted in other ways (null and blank), which gives a good metric of people's actual interest for politics, and a notion about the victorious candidate's "real legitimacy". Having somebody win with 30% because 45% voted blank or null is a good indicator that they're not that representative of people's will and desired policies.
Same in my contry. Vote is mandatory, it is a right and civil duty. Ofcourse you can vote for anything, even vote for nothing, but you are responsable of your decisions. People accept this and no one question the legality or results of any election as 90%+ decided in a free election.
the biggest issue in countries where it's not mandatory is that the country doesnt have to provide easy access to voting since they can just say people didnt want to vote instead of having to justify why the reason so many people didnt vote was that it wasnt accessible (this was a huge issue during the 2016 presidential vote in the US for example, a lot of the red states provided the bare minimum and didnt even allow people to give others water bottles so as to discourage democrat voters)
@@FantasmaNaranja There's also the issue that election day in the US isn't any sort of holiday. Losing those working hours isn't really a choice they can make since there are places where people are waiting hours in line just to attempt to cast their ballot.
"I was hit and I turned out fine!" has the exact energy of "I ate all the lead paint off my toys and I'm perfectly normal!" and "Calm down, dear, the asbestos snow isn't going to hurt you" combined.
My parents are from Europe and they refused to use physical punishment on us growing up. Part of it is how they view that overseas, but also they had some brutal experiences growing up that made them swear to never do it to their own children.
My mother took this idea and kinda backfired it. She still spanked and sometimes backhanded us in the face. Her reason? Her father used switches, whips, and belts on her and she wouldn't do that to us. Ummmmmm you're still causing physical pain???? How is this a solution???? Can speak from experience- it doesn't make you learn not to do the behavior, it just makes you learn not to get caught.
@@animeartist888 That isn't disciplinary. That is abuse. As my mother says, spanking is one of the last tools to be used with a child who is out of control (for whatever reason) and should be done one time and right. If it is done right the first time you should never have to do it again. The memory is enough that a warning suffices going forward.
My father spanked me once; and explained why before and after. It was because I ran out in traffic. He said: "You cannot learn from experience, if you are dead." That was the only time; and I totally agree with him. I should also mention that I have Asperger's, and would frequently make the same mistakes over and over again. My mother on the other hand, spanked me all the time and it had negative effects; so I can see both sides. I think that it is a tool that intelligent parents can use to teach important concepts and prevent massive pain later in life; I also think that parents can easily slide into taking out frustrations on their children. I think, as a father I would take my own father's route, and only spank my children for engaging in behavior that truly endangered their lives. Playing with a hot stove is a lesson that teaches itself: walking into traffic or train tracks is not a mistake a child can afford to learn the consequences of from experience.
So many parents also hit just to relieve their own frustration rather than for any consistent idea of "discipline". It just teaches your kids violence is a way to let off steam and pain is something to expect from parents
@@EgoEroTergum why is spanking necessary to learn though even for serious lessons? Your opinion only works under the assumption that spanking is a necessity or more effective to teach lessons, an assumption you don't have anything to back up. I fail to see why "you could have died. You can't learn from mistakes that kill you, so you are grounded for 3 weeks." Couldn't have worked instead.
I remember being spanked by my parents for making weird noises, being hyper, being loud/annoying, and not being able to read. Turns out I am Neuro divergent and now can’t express how I feel even tho I know I won’t be hit. Don’t hit your children
sounds like we just need kids to get free tests for these things. and to neuter the majority of people in these countries that seem to not have patience with kids, sorry i see just way tooo many of this at my retail job
In middle school I was paddled once for minor infraction. The next day my father who at 6’6” was a mountain of a man had a meeting with the principal and the coach who paddle to me - my father told them that if I was ever paddled again he would come back here and he would paddle them. I was a good kid & thankfully I never got paddled again.
There's a great video of Paul McCartney describing George Harrison's dad dropping a teacher that hit him. Worth googling RU-vid for it. Bottom line, hitting kids is for cowards.
That story is one that's heard a lot when the teacher's desire to hit the kid contrasts the parent's not to. It's honestly based how many parents have said those things "If you hit my kids again, you will be the next one to be hit"
As for voting participation, Sweden get about 80-85% participation with voluntary voting. You just show up, show ID and vote, simple as that. I've heard a big reason for the low US voting is that it requires multiple steps in order to vote combined with not being mandatory allowed time off from work in order to go voting.
Not necessarily multiple steps. But you have to be a Registered Voter. Which usually is done when getting your driver license/personal ID. And yes, finding time to get to the booth is sometimes hard since they close around the same time that factories let out. Let alone retail/transport workers
The step of voter registration in the U.S. is required because there are restrictions. For example: You don't want someone who just move in to go out the next day to cast a vote in a local election without having the opportunity to learn about the issues, platforms, etc. And you loose your voting rights by being convicted of certain crimes. Unfortunately, there are flaws in every system.
@@JV-pu8kx Yeah, and I have a funny feeling that "rich people crimes" doesn't make you loose your right but "poor people crimes" do? I just don't think that being a criminal in general should make you loose your right to vote, and certainly if it isn't very aimed at those that are more prone to committing crime due to being financially vurnerable. Kinda just makes a negative feed-back loop.
it's incredibly ignorant to defend abusing your own child like that, i was spanked as a kid and it made me develop a subconscious fear and distrust of my own parent, so just remember that doing that to your child will instill fear into them, whether you think it will or not, because it will
If I am being honest, big supporters of child abuse likely lack enough love and empathy to care if their child is afraid of them or not. This is EXACTLY why child abuse is a dangerous practice, it creates problematic members of society
@@alexc2265 yes they are, but it's also still legal to cage them in most countries too & in most countries, to even cage them alone, in many cases leading to them self-harming cause of how distressed they are with the conditions they're kept in
@@alexc2265 yup. Kinda ironic though isn't it that it's illegal in so many countries to remove the claws from cats, BUT it's fully legal to remove birds ability to get away from cats, causing their likely deaths in the process. I've got 2 rescues, one that can't fly/has fused wings from a decade in a TINY cage, the other that can fly but for whatever reason (no doubt relating to his past) hates to do so. I spent lots of time on flight training with him to make sure he could land safely if he did get startled & take off & he has flown off a couple of times when outside & then got stuck in trees, cause he's too scared to fly back down lol but all the problems both my rescues have are a direct result of a previous owner who didn't understand their needs & didn't bother to learn what they were :( They are 2 VERY emotionally & physically messed up little birds because of how they were treated in their prior life! VERY common story with captive birds though, tehy're the most surrendered pet, cause they have intense needs & far too many owners get them cause they look cute, but have no clue on their needs, then they do things like wing clipping, which means the birds only way to defend themselves is to bite, since they can't fly away when scared, so then they get abused by their owners because they're seen as "problems" cause they bite & on & on down the spiral! Very sad! Like you say, all about the humans, no thought into the animals needs
Parental rights tends to just be a way to say children don’t have rights. A “parental right” to hit your kid is just a way to phrase the stripping of children the right to not get hit in a positive light.
No, parental rights clearly means...parental rights...lmao The right to choose how you parent your children and to be free from government being in charge of parental decisions. I can't tell if you're trolling or a fool, but either way congrats - cause you've done well at both
@@jmreeves89 children are not possessions, they are just as much a human being and person as you, so to say that it's a "parental right" to beat children is quite literally saying a child doesn't have the right to be protected from violence...if you would hit an adult it would be considered assault ...
@@serenityf.6234 The problem with kids is that they don't always learn everything from you. Kids do learn bad behaviors from other kids and you cannot control that. There could be other way to deter this bad behavior. Unless you have boatloads of money where you can simply move your kid to another school, and away from bad influences, spanking might be necessary in some situations. If you grew up poor among other poor kids, you would know that spanking was probably the only real deterrent that kept us from going on a bad path. I bet if you could actually get accurate evidence in how many kids spanking prevented from becoming criminals, you would probably not be so opposed to it. Granted, there is always better solutions, but those solutions may not be available to all parents.
I find it pretty ironic how a lot of US politicians use kid's safety as an excuse for the things they're doing, yet *literal child abuse* is protected in every single state. To all the politicians who care about the kids, maybe put your money where your mouth is and ban hitting your kid.
The thing is, that not everyone considers giving a kid a slap on the wrist, or a solid spank, abuse. My dad kicked my ass a very few times when I was a kid and I more than deserved that. Making it completely illegal to physically discipline an unruly child is just dumb. What are you going to do then, if they refuse to put on their shoes, go to school, brush their teeth, or go to bed? Just let them do whatever they want?
@@TheSuperappelflap if the only tool you know is a hammer, that's what you'll use to fasten a screw. There are hundreds of better ways to influence a childs behaviour than corporal punishment. Learning by consequence is a common method. If a child doesn't get up in time to get dressed it has to go to day care in pjs. Time out and grounding are debated methods but certainly better than corporal punishment.
I have severe anxiety disorder from this type of garbage. Many children including myself were chased around the house and "disciplined" their entire life. Chased up and down the house for wanting to stay home from school and play video games. Beaten with the metal end of a belt until I would stop crying. This is not okay. I get terrified at the slightest noises and circumstances now. I was a lot calmer as a child. There is a reason for the increase in Anxiety diagnosis overall, separate to Technology. Nothing to do with TikTok or the 'Algorithm' Children get beat. Their head gets messed up. They perceive the world from a hyper-aggressive point of view then project it onto others without even realizing it. The reason why its so bad is because there is no metric or measurement we can all standardize. Some parents will lightly tap their child's hand with a spoon, which is far more reasonable than beating someone with a metal end of the belt. Each parent has the liberty to go as harsh as they want to, ultimately perpetuating the cycle and causing net harm. I got therapy which helped me self reflect, something which was impossible to do on my own. it SHOULD be Illegal, that is an objective fact. Anyone who says otherwise has trauma they haven't dealt with.
A key factor of the Australian system is they make it really easy to vote. It's always on a weekend, there are polling stations all over the place in schools and public offices. There is early voting, postal voting, absentee voting. You can be on holiday in another country and send in a form to vote if you are an Australian citizen.
Regarding Voting in Australia: It's compulsory for Federal and State Elections & Referendums, but not for the smaller local government (edit: depending on state. I wasn't aware but it's apparently also compulsory in some states). In addition, while you are required to vote, there's no requirement for your vote to be a "valid" vote. It is perfectly legal to walk into an election booth, cover your voting slip in nothing but phallic imagery, or in fact to write nothing on the ballot at all. This is called an informal vote, and is a valid way to say "I don't like ANY of these candidates".
Fun phallic voting fact: at a UK general election a few years ago, someone drew a penis in one of the boxes on their ballot. As it was entirely within the box it was considered a valid vote for that candidate.
It is compulsory to vote in local government elections (except Western Australia and South Australia) - fine is $55 in New South Wales. [Edit to add exceptions to compulsory voting] You are correct that there is no obligation to write anything on the ballot paper - so, if that's your intention, just leave them blank or put a big cross through them. No-one needs to read your misspelt attempt at writing swear words or anatomically incorrect art - people do have to look at these papers during counting.
@@AnotherDoug It isn't compulsory to vote in local government elections in some states such as Western Australia while in others like New South Wales it is. Not sure why it's inconsistant at the local level.
In Brazil, we "nullify" our vote, usually pressing just 0s. But I'd NOT recommend it, worse when we are pretending a tactic os sustenance of a bourgeoisie democracy will be enough to defeat fascism.
He should have mentioned that it was his skull they were thwacking over and over. Wouldn't stop until he stopped responding and sat there with drool running down his bloodied chin. "And if you even THINK of becoming responsive before bed time we will send you to bed with no dinner!!!" It's okay that he's never been to a therapist, he's beyond helping.
It also sounds like his parents probably went too far even for what most supporters would consider appropriate. He acts like an absolute raving nutter.
'This explains a lot about Sean Hannity' Yeah, I thought he looked like a potato because he was Irish, but it turns out it's because he had his face rearranged by a drunken irish dad.
I've had my parents called out so many times at the hospital or doctor. 😂 I trained horses as a kid (as young as 9; I was tiny and experienced, so I could train ponies meant for small kids while no adult could), so I was covered in bruises, lacerations, and various minor fractures. I was in no way forced to do this. My parents actually wanted me to stop at some points, but it was, uh, bad for my mental wellness to discontinue (IE I would lose my sh*t).
It sounds like the only choice he had to rationalize the world around him was to start believing that even kids sometimes deserve that kind of abuse, and that he was just inherently bad. I wish we had to imagine the sort of politics that could make you spout if you never addressed it in therapy first.
Troubled by tyranny, yeah. Anyone who needs proof that child abuse causes fascism doesn't need to look long. Fun fact: Hitler, Mao Zedong, and Stalin were all abusively beaten by their father. It's not a coincidence that they all developed a cruel disregard for human dignity... and were obsessed with corporal punishment as a form of 'discipline' for adults.
5:50 - imagine that. When you raise a generation without the trauma of physical violence as a core childhood memory, they tend to statistically be less violent as they get older. What a novel concept.
@@RamsayBolton13 I'd like to see the tech solution to most of the equator being uninhabitable in the next 20 years. Ukraine is just the start. But I'm going way off topic, a violence free civilisation is a noble aspiration, just not pragmatic while you share a world with those who will just take it as a sign of weakness. Also it's kind of hard to police a populace without the implied threat of violence.
@@RamsayBolton13 Because profit, or rather; well being is generally more important than lives, yes. This recent war in Ukraine proves that; the West might generally be willing to deal with the pain of economic damage, but most of the world doesn't care. And the West's stance is more a product of ideology and realpolitik.
@@EvileDik "a violence free civilisation(sic)...who will just take it as a sign of weakness. ..." That is absolutely absurd and if it were even remotely true places like Somalia would be the viewed as the strongest and most respected.
A clever advantage of mandatory voting is that it means everyone MUST get the opportunity to vote, ergo, no more "I want to vote but can't get time off work"
@@samuels1123 we already see this kind of thing when somebody needs time off for jury service, part time military service or similar things, it's not employer v employee, it becomes employer v government and spoiler, government isn't about to lose.
Also ensures that there are enough places to vote and that the ques aren't too long, since you're paying people and overtime is more expensive than hiring extra personnel.
Ohh no, thats not how it works 🤣 You don’t get a free day off for voting, you either go to a pre-voting station in city hall the week leading up to it, enrol for a postal vote or get asked to pay the dollarydoos when the fine turns up in your mail.
I have to imagine that the legality of corporal punishment for kids makes it really weird to try to prove physical abuse, because it seems like the only way to distinguish the two is for the court to have an official opinion on whether the kid deserved it.
If you break the skin, or leave a bruise, it crosses the line from "a slap/spanking" to "assault", which is why teachers are usually unwilling to resort to it, and haven't generally since the 80's. Teachers would still threaten to do so by slapping a yard stick against a chair though. Private schools on the other hand... If you've seen on the news over the last few years about the discovery of bodies at indian(native) schools run by the catholic church. You see why corporal punishment shouldn't be dished out by teachers at all.
I read all forms of "corporal punishment" as misdemeanor battery in every state. It's punishment enacted without any judicial oversight. Disgusting practice, and anyone who does it deserves to get the paddle taken from them and whacked until they can't use their arms again.
@@Kisai_Yuki yeah, but that's catholic church. They aren't normal school, they're literally an organized cult and you wonder why they kill more children in their schools than peta kill dogs in their shelters
@@Kisai_Yuki It is quite a simple thing to kill someone without breaking the skin or leaving a bruise. Watch a few mobster movies and you'll see examples that also work in real life.
Hey guys! Future (in less than 3 months) mental health nurse here. Spanking and other forms of physical punishment can absolutely hinder the growth both literal and metaphorical of your child. Explaining why they are wrong is key to effective punishment. Remember when you're yelling at a young child your not yelling at a grown ass adult. They don't understand why you are yelling at them. You are their guardian and they look to you for what is right and wrong.
When I misbehaved in public, my parents would tell me to stop. If I didn't after a few times, they would take me to the car and put me in time out (they were in the car with me the whole time, didn't just leave me). Later that day at home when I was in a calm mood, they would talk to me, tell me what I did wrong and ask me if there was a better way I thought I could have expressed my emotions. That was so effective because I knew why I was being punished and didn't get told the correct solution, but had to think what it was.
@uNnHkP8mza That is horrible! My parents are strong believers in the not be violent but being stern when needed approach. Not being my friends but also not being my enemies. Being my safety and keeping the world safe from me. Not reviling in saying no, but always ready to say it if needed. I think that has allowed me to be well adjusted.
I often had to face pretty intense corporal punishment as a child when I had emotional meltdowns (not even really misbehaving, just crying) and I never understood why. At 23 i was finally diagnosed with autism and now my parents feel guilty because that is obviously extremely unhelpful. Too often parents jump to hitting without even explaining why the child is being punished. If they cannot understand, all it does is traumatize them. Even if they do understand their wrongdoing, how insecure do you have to be as a full grown adult and parent that you feel the need to assert your superior physical strength to an ignorant, innocent child
@@JM-wf2to What lessons did you learn that you _wouldn't_ have learnt if you didn't get hit? I grew up with kids who were beaten fairly regularly as punishment (slaps/hit with utensils/etc) - and some that only got stern talking to-s. The outcomes were fairly similar in both cases - we sometimes listened and learnt our lessons, we sometimes ignored the beating/talking and continued till we understood the lesson. The only difference in my experience was the kids who were beaten sometimes did shit to intentionally goad their parents - because "I am risking a beating" bought you some street cred that "I am risking a stern talking to" didn't.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure there are a lot of kids out there being physically harmed as punishment for their mental conditions, and it is only making it worse. Like they can just beat you into being neurotypical. Beat the anxiety and depression out of someone else. Beat kids out of having learning disorders. Etc, etc.
I don't understand people who think spanking/hitting your children is a good way to teach them something. Judging from the comments, I've seen two arguments 1. "Young children won't understand you if you tell them something is wrong instead of hitting" 2. "Spanking isn't the same as a hitting or slapping, it's not abuse" So... 1. How is spanking any more clear than speaking to them? Is it because "Fear/pain teaches them"? I suppose you'd be okay with someone punching you if you littered then, since it'd teach you not to? 2. How is it different? Describe, physically, how it is a different thing. Because a slap is hitting someone with an open palm, leaving a red mark and stinging pain. A spank is also doing that. How are they different things? Is it using "Reasonable force"? What amount of force is reasonable then? I want someone to tell me *how hard you can hit your child before it starts being a bad thing* with a straight face
Depending on the school district, it usually happens in the Vice Principal's office with consent of the parent. Other kids never find out unless the kid spanked tells other kids.
@@babybird4255 maybe if the teachers had the resources to do their job as well as proper training then the solution would be better than slapping your kid. Simple does not mean good.
@@hannibalbarca1147 Who said slapping? Teachers are outnumbered 20 to 1. They can be very trained, but that doesn't take away from the fact that some kids could use a spanken.
It's utterly wild. And there's often statutes of limitation that basically prevent young adults from later pressing charges against their abusers. Hitting a kid should get you MORE punishment than punching a stranger on the street, not less
Spanking is not the same as slap, punching or kicking kids. Corporal punishment builds character by parents. Teachers, on the other hand, I don't agree with.
@@wintyrqueen Try it and see how fast you get child services get called on you by teachers and health professionals. But spanking, not going to happen.
"And I deserved it, I was a trouble kid" shows how effective demestic violence as a punishment is... There is a reason why children who had a good relationship to their parents, free from violence turn out to be way less likely to commit crimes.
Imagine being a grown up and not knowing the difference between "spanking" and "child abuse". It's like listening someone lecturing you how eating meat is "animal abuse".
@@Fent415 I am sorry for typing "demestic" instead of "domestic" and forgetting a comma. English is not my first language so I will naturally make some mistakes.
I was spanked as a child, and all it ended up doing for me is making me into a good liar. I learned out to cover up evidence and convince myself that a lie I fabricated was the truth so that I wouldn't look guilty saying it. I also learned that if I was caught off guard and didn't have a bullet proof lie planned out ahead of time, it was better for me to preserve my reputation of being truthful and confess and take my punishment, but that punishment was punishment for not coming up with a good life ahead of time.
having mandatory voting makes voting suppression in a democracy almost impossible. the state has to provide enough voting centers, all citizens are automatically registered to vote and the elections are in a day that everyone can vote.
Never thought you could beat the sense out of people until I heard that, now I hope parents will take it as the warning against abuse. Or else your child will end up with a room temperature intelligence and lick boots for a living.
@@aaronpatterson2369 yes, real strength comes from ignoring the problems rotting at us from within instead of addressing and working on them, fantastic point I'll make sure to also ignore the termites and mildew so my house stays strong
He reminds me of the 16 years old father in the hospital, smoking in the waiting room. Both he and the mother had ofcourse been smoking during the pregnancy. When I asked why, he said "my mom did the same and it never hurt me". Looking at him, I thought "well, I have my own opinion on that!" but never said it. Sean is a bit similar.
As a young Brazilian, I used to think that being compelled to show up to vote (even if you present a "blank" vote, as you're allowed) was absurd. That was until I learned how people in the US were in actuality stripped of the right to vote by a series of laws and logistic choices, topped by the fact that they can't even choose their President directly, with one vote having the same weight as every other. That and also when our former President employed the Federal Police to prevent people from getting to the voting booth in regions where he was certain to lose. After those incidents, I defend voting as a duty whose accomplishment must be protected and promoted by the State at all costs.
That sounds so dumb. You believed in a good system, lived with a bad system, you saw a country have a worse system, and now you're advocating for your.... bad.... system?
@@destroything Absolutely! It only stands to reason that one would prefer something "bad" over something "worse". Not being compelled to vote isn't inherently good and it has proven to be detrimental to voters in bourgeois liberal democracy (in my opinion). Until we can overcome this system, I think the right thing is to defend whatever makes it less problematic.
@@NaveGristle But why would you stand for something bad, when there's something to strive for still? That's like saying you won't start showering daily because some people out there never shower. This is a bad chain of logic
@@destroything As a fellow brazilian, I'll quote a comment bellow that says it all: "having mandatory voting makes voting suppression in a democracy almost impossible. The state has to provide enough voting centers, all citizens are automatically registered to vote and the elections are in a day that everyone can vote." . That's the point in Brazil and that's why many people are right now being prossecuted here for the acts of the former president trying to prevent people to vote. It's not perfect, I'll give you that, but, as it's said in the video, if we don't vote for 3 consecutive terms, we only pay a fine worth less than a dollar, and that's only if you want to get to vote again and some other very specific reasons, so you can basically choose if you'll vote or not, the mandatory part is monstly just in paper.
@@destroything What you're saying is predicated on mandatory voting being bad but you haven't made any case for that. Why do you think being forced to explicitly submit a no-vote ballet is bad? What is the harm caused by that? The other commenter clearly layed out the harm of leaving it optional. Your analogy was also questionable. A more faithful depiction of good-bad-worse would be something like: initially thinking showering is fine, then finding out the water supply contains toxic chemicals that can poison you on contact, and finally defending the idea of not showering until someone can fix the water problem. You choose the bad option of being dirty to avoid the worse option of being poisoned. I'm genuinely curious the reasoning for your stance. Do you actually just care about being clean to the point you would willingly poison yourself? Or was there more to it?
My emotionally abusive sperm donor would say "you're lucky i don't use the belt like my dad did" and phrase it as a good thing. The fact that some people take pride in that they used to be hit by a belt is disturbing.
While I don't condone fearful threats, I think what he was trying to say is "be grateful I'm more merciful to you than my parent(s) were to me" but regardless it's not something proud nor nice to be said.
I think it's funny when someone says you should be allowed to physically abuse children and cites that they were physically abused as children and then say "I turned out alright"...except for the part were you advocate for physical abuse of children lol
Yep, they have no idea how much better they might've turned out if not for the abuse. I really hate the "muh dad beat my ass and I turned out alright" thing. It's just so wrong
"I turned out alright" seems to usually mean "I find this normal". For instance, if you bottle up all your emotions, get angry at small things very easily and believe hitting and shouting at children helps them learn, you did not turn out alright! Go to therapy
The fact that he felt the need to act out the spankings on TV when nobody asked him to suggests that deep down he really *wants* to talk about it. So a shrink is exactly what he needs!
I had a male teacher spank me with a paddle for saying something he didn't like, and everyone was OK with it. I ran into him a few years later and he said something I didn't like so I spanked him and got arrested. The double standard needs to go away. He was all about spanking when he was bigger than me, but against it when the tables turned.
I'll tell you what’s illegal in my country and legal in America: in Australia it’s against the law to do anything to limit or impede my ability to vote! That is what compulsory voting is really about. It's my duty to vote, and it's the state's responsibility to ensure I have the opportunity to vote and that nothing interferes with my right to vote. That is democracy.
@@zoundstreetop Technically it's compulsory attendance. you just need to go and get your name ticked off, you can then hand in a blank ballot or draw silly pictures on the ballot paper.
US Federal law also protects everyone’s constitutional RIGHT to vote. Even if US had compulsory voting attendance, that doesn’t guarantee every person’s vote carries the same WEIGHT in national elections, because we are a republic. Because states vote for President and VP, some states have such a small population that they only get to cast 3 or 4 electoral votes compared to populous California with 55 and Texas with 38. Another way to dilute votes is gerrymandering, where the party in power draws the local voting district lines so their supporters are the majority in the district and then the have the majority in the state legislature to pass laws - the district lines can be challenged as unfair via the court system but depending on who has been appointed to the court (some states elect their judges) that ruling doesn’t always result in justice.
@@marylut6077 too true. The American electoral system is open to corruption at its very core and was to all intents and purposes designed that way. The Electoral College for example was specifically created to prevent the rule of the ‘masses.’ It needs to be reformed root and branch.
I was at a Catholic school with a reputation for brutality when corporal correction became illegal here. Some teachers were raging and threatening to break the law. The other thing about it was that when teachers hit children then children will start bullying each other. It's apparently a different place now but I wouldn't set foot in it ever again.
My country's schools can even invite all students to witness a student being caned in the school hall/auditorium for serious offences, as this is seen as a way to deter all students from offending
As an Aussie, Democracy Sausages are a national treasure, and there are even maps of voting locations that have sausage sizzles and if there are vegetarian options. Would looove to know if other countries have anything similar
Nice work on the Australian part - we always get grouped with compulsory voting countries when we dont have compulsory voting - we have compulsory attendance... And the Fine can be dismissed easily on even frivolous grounds... You can vote, you can donkey vote (essentially scribble all over the ballot - the preferred way of not voting) or just walk away without collection of voting material
When I was in 3rd grade, I struggled to stay focused on schoolwork. My teacher was a total b*tch who yelled at her students, and she would call me a "bonehead slacker" or "dumb as rocks" when I didn't do my work correctly. My grades got so bad that my dad spanked me as punishment. I am 28 now, and I never put a single ounce of effort into school after that day. I tried so hard to be a good student for my awful teacher, but my dad only cared about how my grades were. Being hit made me realize that my effort doesn't matter if the result isn't perfect. Also I don't talk to my dad anymore. Turns out the kind of man who hits his kid is just a bad person all around.
*It is a lazy, ineffective punishment* - the better punishment would have been for your dad to force you to sit at the dinner table and study, then he would have known you were trying and not just slacking. *The effectiveness drops with repetition* - we have all known kids in school who didn't care about getting spanked. *It is often more about the adult acting on their own frustration more than correcting the behavior* which diminishes its effectiveness more, and teaches children physical violence to express dissatisfaction is acceptable. I was the youngest of 5 with a big age difference between most of us. My mom spanked my oldest siblings, but realized it wasn't effective, and also had negative effects. By my time, she believed the only time a child might be spanked was if it involved a child undertaking an action that risked their safety (example - running away from home as a child).
@@1SCme No offense but your solution of "your dad to force you to sit at the dinner table and study" is also not really effective, because we know for a fact that children cannot really absorb anything on an empty stomach - they need to be eating with other people at the dinner table, not studying and feeling like a punished outcast. More often than not, children who are struggling with their studies usually have underlying problems that they need help with. Sometimes it'll be something medical or psychiatric, like ADD or dyslexia -- calling these kids slackers and telling them they just need to study harder is just kinda cruel. They need actual help, that they'll never get while their problems get blamed on them being slackers and what have you. But other children who just don't follow schoolwork as well, just need guidance. A parent can sit down and help the child study. They can help them with the parts they don't get. Personal tutors can offer just that as well. That's the real solution there. And sorry to say but being spanked for wanting to leave your house just reinforces the urge to want to live your house lol. Spanking and other forms of corporal punishment are just a lazy way of feeling like you're addressing a problem, when you are not. If your child wants to run away from home, you talk to them and figure out wtf you're doing wrong for them to feel that way. Spanking them just teaches them that violence is the answer to problems, that's all.
@@ShadowTasos You're lost - the dinner table is being referred to as an example location or piece of furniture, not an event, I didn't support name calling - you did a lot of typing to avoid reading. I can attest 1st hand that spanking, in limited use, most certainly did discourage repetition of the dangerous activity (me running away again), was more effective than just a good talkin' to. Your jump that it would teach me to embrace violence, or encourage me to do it again, is ridiculous... but you know this, evidenced by your silly belief that adding "lol" supports your foolish claim in prose when little to none exists in reality.
You're lost Prideqt - the dinner table is being referred to as an example location or piece of furniture, not an event. I didn't support name calling. You did a lot of typing to avoid reading. I can attest 1st hand that spanking, in limited use, most certainly did discourage repetition of the dangerous activity (me running away again), was more effective than just a good talkin' to. Your jump that it would teach me to embrace violence, or encourage me to do it again, is ridiculous... but you know this, evidenced by your silly belief that adding "lol" supports your foolish claim in prose when little to none exists in reality.
When referring to corporal punishment of kids I use the word hitting. Use of other words like spanking or smacking some how serves to minimise an act of violence against children. I was hit as a child for punishment and all it did was teach me not to get caught and to fear my parents.
My dad used to hit us with his belt. I learned to be sly and not get busted. I still got busted a couple few times and went to county jail for dumb shit. Best way to avoid jail is not to get busted, and the best way to not get busted is to not allow yourself to be placed in the position to get busted, or in other words, don't steal, don't rob, don't vandalize, and most importantly, _don't drive drunk!_ Now when it comes to smoking pot, no silly "law" ever stopped any individual from exercising our right to pursue happiness. Big Brother is finally being forced to admit that prohibition doesn't work because people are going to continue to do what makes us happy regardless of what Big Brother says or does. I smacked my daughter on the buttocks with an open hand, _one time,_ when she was two, because she bit me. It was more of an instantaneous reaction than a punishment.
In fourth grade, two kids were bragging about how many spoons their moms had broken by spanking them. This video made me think of that again, and I didn't quite realize how messed up that was
This thing about 'parental rights' makes me mad. Some people take it as 'i can do whatever I want because it's MY child'. No. They're not your property. It's your responsibility to take care of them in a responsible way 🤦
I agree, it's really shocking to see that it's still legal in America. It's also shocking how many people don't understand how harmful it is. It only teaches children to hide mistakes and everything they do wrong and to never trust their parents.
@@VickyG212 Now that you say it it really makes me wonder how many people got stuck in abusive relationships for exactly that reason. It only gets more sad the more you think about it.
I remember having my school having my parents sign a permission slip for opt-in spanking, so I am kind of surprised to learn that my elementary school was quite progressive for at least asking for permission first.
Fun fact: some historians argue that mullets are one of the most popular hair styles throughout history. It’s been favored by warriors and workers across the world because it keeps hair out of your face while protecting your neck from the sun.
Who would have thought the hairstyle that is "just don't cut your hair" would be popular? It's almost like it's the default state for anybody not getting a specific and specialized stylization done on a regular basis.
In the US we can also put cancer causing substances in our food if it's cheaper than non-cancerous alternatives. Although American cheese can't even legally be sold as cheese here. It's a pasteurized processed cheese product (which won out over "embalmed cheese" in the original FDA debate over what it could be sold as).
In Australia you can skip voting and use any reasonable excuse. I've had my mail mixed up and wasn't aware of voting dates and I was excused of my fine without proof.
It's the same thing in Brazil. You can justify or pay a symbolic fine. I didn't vote in the first round of the last elections because of my sister's wedding.
I think compulsory voting is a good idea but there also has to be a none of the above option. If none of the above wins tjen you have to rerun the election. Maybe then the parties will shape up?
As someone living in Australia I didnt know compulsory voting was so rare. What we have always been told is that compulsory voting strengthens our voting rights, since if the government can punish you for not voting it has to be reasonable for you be able to vote. Its not like you actually have to make a legitimate vote once you get there. Plus we get democracy sausages so.
Oh, I suspect that in America if voting were compulsory, Republicans would just make it EVEN HARDER for undesirables to vote, because that would mean more fines.
i wish our country had mandatory voting. at the last provincial election they did everything they could to prevent students and young adults from being able to get to polling stations. i literally waited 2 hours in line, had my ballot in hand, when i was stopped and had it taken from me and told the center was closing, because it was 6pm. i was a student, and left class early and skipped work that night to go to the polls.
The sausage sizzle is one thing I've never personally seen as a voter, I'm sure it's common in other parts of the country but not here in Tamworth, yes sadly the Beetrooter is my rep.
That doesn't really make sense since the inverse isn't true. The inverse would be "the government cannot punish you unless it's reasonable." Obviously false.
@@catholicdad it's not really a brag to say you were a troubled kid and didn't get any help for it. Kids act up and out for a reason, and being smacked by the people who are supposed to guide you through how to become a well adjuated adult doesn't do that. Getting the belt doesn't adjust behavior it supresses it and doesn't really teach the kid anything other than "don't get caught"
I'm Australian and recently got fined for not voting (I was stupid and just missed the date) . I still believe compulsory voting is a good thing and the $20 fine really wasn't a big deal.
I would have signed that so fast for my kid - hell would freeze over before I would grant anyone, particularly some emotionally immature teacher, carte blanche permission to lay a hand on my kid. If they want to punish a child, there's plenty of options, some with ancillary benefits - sit by themselves, assign extra work, detention, etc. By the time I graduated high school, all schools had switched over to detention, or the very effective in school suspension, with out of school suspension a rarity.
The most important part of compulsory voting is that it's on the government to ensure that every voter has reasonable access to a polling booth - a 6 hour wait to vote is unheard of here, but I believe this kind of thing has been used as a voter suppression tactic in the US.
@@obeseperson views on things change but whether or not they are factually wrong only get clearer with time. Neuroscience agrees hitting children in wrong and ineffective. Science says obesity is unhealthy regardless of the modern American view that is just fine. What you think do sth doesn't change whether it is or isn't, it just shows how ignorant some people are of the things we collectively know as a species.
it's so nice seeing my generation (gen z) and millennials being against hitting children as punishment. I was hit a couple times as punishment and it just scared me and I imagine it's the same for many kids. I love the rise of "gentle parenting" where you just explain what the kid did wrong and find solutions together, etc.
yeah, I would sooner do that then spank them, but otherwise not every kid is going to be one who understands when you say not to do something or even cares about when their things are taken away.
@@jdkoz98 hitting a child is not acceptable unless it’s in direct self defence. If you wouldn’t be allowed to hit an adult in that situation, why should you be allowed to hit a child several times smaller than you? People who hit kids because the kid was cheeky are pathetic and frankly weak. Imagine getting so offended by a smarmy kid that you have to resort to violence cause you have no comeback lol
@@jdkoz98 You do not smack a child for being fresh. Jeez. Being fresh is what children do. It's how they test boundaries. Answering their boundary tests with violence teaches that violence is the answer to their own problems too.
Is it legal for the victim to slap the abuser? Imagine a school Bully beats his peers up every day. Teacher, school staff do nother after years of reports against said bully by parents and children. Then one day the abused gather around in a secret spot outside of school grounds. When Mr. Bully come around they tackle him down. Each takes a turn beating his ass as payment for pain an suffering he caused.🤫😐🤗
@@p0k3mn1 The person slapping their boss almost surely would do it because they don't like something the boss has done. So it would be a punishment of the boss. Still assault. Or if a boss physically attacked a worker for doing bad work that would be a punishment. It would still be assaulting the worker. So clearly something is missing in your answer. I guess you mean it isn't assault because society decided that the person doing it is allowed to punish the other person in this way. Slapping your boss as punishment isn't considered okay so it is labelled assault while some countries consider slapping kids okay so they label it punishment not assault. But that is a non answer to the question. Because your answer to why it is okay is basically that society decided it is okay without a reason why.
5:16 thanks for clarifying that you made those up. I would have totally believed that those were real, because at this point I resigned myself to the acceptance that there is no such thing as an idea too stupid and ludicrous for people to support.
@@prettyevil6662000 so true. those onion videos were made well over a decade ago and occasionally you see something that doesn't seem so far fetched by today's standards...
In compulsory voting systems there is no problem with spoiling your ballot (eg writing "none of the above"). But you get to actively do it, and you avoid a lot of voter suppression measures.
@@mehere8038 Many places in the US already make it pretty hard to vote (requiring specific ID that requiring spending at least one day off work to get, limited voting stations etc). If voting were to be made compulsory on top of that, it would only further hurt the people who can't afford to take any days off work, and could just even be another way to restrict their right to vote.
@@arahman56 That is actually really common outside the IS, including countries that may actually require voting. That said, I believe that if such requirements exist, and there are arguments to be made, then hard work should go into ensuring that everyone can have access to this ID if they are eligible to vote.
I'm an Australian and I used to hate the idea of mandatory voting. I now actually think it's a good thing. Making voting a duty stops political shenanigans that try to encourage people not to come out to vote. I've heard of such nonsense happening in the US. Plus it makes moderates come out and vote too, not just the people who really really care, which I think is good to have the non fanatical voters be more engaged. Overall I think it makes our political system more robust. Just my opinion.
As a Swede in education it’s absolutely horrible to hear it’s legal for teachers and parents to beat children in so many states. I understand that this is a culture-clash thing, but it’s a real shock. To me, this is assault on someone who is helplessly in your power. It just seems so cruel.
It’s cruel to us too. Those of us who lived in civilized states, this thing simply doesn’t happen in public schools even if it’s ‘legal.’ I guarantee there would’ve been an uproar if this had happened at the school I went to, and I’m sure it was against my school’s policy. It’s barbaric and disgusting that it’s legal in any way in the US. The only upside is that its deceasing and the younger generation is against it
"To me, this is assault on someone who is helplessly in your power. It just seems so cruel." A lot of it depends on how you're "assaulting" the other person. A hard smack on the butt vs a belt or switch vs. backhand across the face. There's a big difference between a spanking and a beating, even if both involve physical strikes by an adult against a child. I think the most important question is not "Is this cruel?" but rather "Is this effective, particularly when other methods are ineffective?"
and he mentioned it, but i think it bares repeating, hitting a child has negative consequences that you don't necessarily see right away. when you hit a child, your teaching that child that violence is an answer to problems. we now have studies that back that up, and have found that people who were spanked as a child are more likely to punch, or otherwise hit, their romantic partners, and often funny enough for the same thing, compliance. Weird how that works, teach them violence is a way to solve problems, and they will use that same tactic later in their life. The chances that person goes to jail for domestic abuse goes WAY up as a result of an upbringing of spanking. its INSANE how many people think that hitting a child is okay. they just don't see it as abuse, and yet, it demonstrably is.
@@alericjohansen6775 I disagree I was spanked frequently as a child and I’m very strongly opposed to violence as a solution and I don’t really have any plans to discipline my children in that way and it didn’t teach me anything remotely like what you’re trying to say, and it’s absolutely not abuse I do think it shouldn’t be in schools but at the home it’s absolutely ok, though as they said I’m sure it has to do with culture as I grew up in the south where it’s unheard of for someone to be against it, it’s odd to me that you would even compare it to abuse
What baffles me in the USA is the fact that you can be doing something that is perfectly legal, step slightly to the left, cross an imaginary line, and end up in jail for ten years. Scary.
@@seanthe100 State lines, some things are legal in some states and illegal in others. So you could smoke weed in colarado but the second you step into Wyoming it's highly illegal.
It's like that everywhere bud. Canada experiences this with its different provenances, Europe experiences this with the different small countries the size of most our states. We have states larger than countries....
For the record: in Belgium mandatory voting does not get enforced. However there is a 'lotery' system in which civilians are required to count votes/ help the democratic process. Not turning up when being called for that duty WILL result to you appearing in front of a judge and a hefty fine.
@@PliskinYT we vote on sunday morning so most people do not work and no I don't think there are any compensation but you can be excused if you need to go to work (e.g. doctors)
A curious little unknown fact about Brazil's 1 dolar fine is that it actually works as a deterrent in 2 cases: 1. Everyone knows there is a fine, but a small, yet non-negligible part of the population doesn't know how much is it. It's public information, but I've met my fair share of people who thought it was a lot more, so they went to vote not to be fined until someone told them. 2. Not that long ago, the process to pay your fine was more of a pain in the ass than to go voting. You had to go to the proper government building, get the bill, then to to the correct bank, stay in line, etc. Nowadays you ca just do it through an app, but remember the people from 1 who didn't know the fine was a dollar until someone told them? Some of them didn't get this memo either. Bonus curiosity: If you can't pay the fine you don't have to. I know this isn't how fines are supposed to work, but if you're homeless or in some super vulnerable situation you just have to sign a paper saying you can't pay and the fine gets pardoned.
"I was belted as a kid and I turned out just fine" - every adult who is fixated on violence against children being the solution to all of societies problems.
Hey, Sean Hannity, who apparently thinks Donald Trump is the messiah, would like you to know that his parents beat the shit out of him every day and he turned out just fine and has never needed therapy. And now, he's going to remove his belt and demonstrate his daily beatings on national television.
What's stupid is the implication is that the belting/spanking/whatever didn't work, because they were "bad kids" and obviously the hitting didn't stop that or else they wouldn't be bad kids.
@@Assassinus2 Yeah, like, you can't go around hitting adults if they're annoying or misbehave - that's common assault. But a defenseless child is fair game? That seems so backwards. And even if it was fair - I don't trust the majority of people to express clear judgment. Adults drink. Drinking makes people impulsive and aggressive. At what exact point is it the alcohol doing the spanking? At what point is not no longer punitive - and just an impatient outburst? And it doesn't 'toughen' people up. It conditions them to feel that any situation has the potential to escalate into assault.
On the topic of spanking, didn't the Supreme Court put any limits in place as to what's a cruel use of paddling? As a child I was hit in my fingers for writing with both hands because the teacher believed that the left hand was the devil's hand and I have permanently crooked fingers as a result. It seems to me that letting teachers hit children without limit just enables such abuses to occur especially since parents don't have the right to take a child out of public school to protect them. If it's to be allowed at all there should be limits on what can be hit and what behavior can trigger it.
@@d_ryosuke Some states are stricter on it, but all states allow parents to homeschool their children. If parents have the time to homeschool their kids, or the resources to put them in a charter or private school, then the parents are fully able to remove their kids from public school. Still, it adds a burden on the parents, and some parents might not be easily able to use other options.
@@Sina-dv1eg bro he said parents dont have the right to remove their kids from public school. like literally yes they do. just because something is impractical doesnt mean it's illegal or forbidden.
