Huo's stats are better than nevsky, useful in chaining brb and newer commander.Nevsky all-round but new cav commander probably surprass him.There may be a possibility of a commander who works well with qubing who knows(above of else he is chinese commander).So Im worried much more nevsky not jonprime and qubing.I think new cav commanders will replace nevsky and william because of their age and stats.
nevsky/joan is still the best cav march. that said, hou is the best for barb chaining and is only marginally worse in the field, so he is the better invest for new players.
@@TJMiton Qubing is very good in the field but nevsky more thanky.Even though im T4(33m power) i got 100m kp in kvk3 (Qubing/jprime) and reports are very good thanks to Qubing's damage/skill damage bonus.
@@TJMiton Nevski is indeed the great stat-stick that Joan lacks and they both compensate each other in stats and damage Huo has a slightly higher stat and damage output but is not as tankie as Nevski so they are both relatively even, except Nevski having the great defence debuff
So 3 years later and archers still suck. I took a break from the game when nevesky, Boudicca, scipio got released. I was an archer prime and we never got any love or OP commanders. Coming back now seems like a waste because they continues to be the trend on this game. So glad I didn’t continue wasting money
there is 2 sides of the coin. yes archers are weak in a sense cause they are terrible at dueling and can trade terrible if they get targeted, however if u let an archer player skill cycle ur march is getting nuked. i have reports where my zhuge herman sits there and skill cycles like 10 times until its red from counterattack damage so i retreat it and trade like 3-1 against people with MUCH better stats
If they are planning to add sun tzu prime, the time is now. Make him an AOE skill damage. Why? Bring synergy for scipio prime. Also hes known as the skill damage aoe meta in the start of the game and it’s cool to appreciate. It also makes it so smite damage doesnt get too OP where u could pair two aoe smite comms.
I am in kvk 2 right now. Im staying away from nevsky. Going to use joan ( cheap investment comparitively with mina), for my cav march. I am going liu che alex for inf ( seems safer plus low investment) then i have ysg and mehmed to pair with archer, or another march. But you make tons of sense being weary of the next skills like healing and smite. Better to watch and wait.
I just started the game about a week ago and started with Sun Tzu, was wondering what a good Commander to run with Him is (I’m CH13 If that matters). I don’t plan on spending a ton of money on the game so I was wondering if that limits what commanders I’d be able to run with Him. Sun Tzu is currently lvl22 (My secondary Commander I’ve been running is a Lvl20 Osman I) - Both are 3 Star
Huo Joan has less tank stats though... Honestly I ran Huo/Joan and Huo/Nevsky and I dig the Nevsky secondary more for the tanky stats because I'm broke and don't have heads lmao
Should you still invest in YSG pre SOC? Alex has his purpose is SOC, but I think YSG has been pushed so far down the order it might look to be a bad investment
Shajar/ysg is good. It works well since shajar has such a high single target dmg factor nut doesn't have any skill dmg debuff/boost. Ysg provides that lack of skill dmg buff. Which makes the pair fast, sustainable and burst targets. Reports in chinese servers. But they still think she's not better than ZL. Which just shows how broken ZL is as well.
Xy and Trajan had their moments. Huo is the only one I agree with because he's insane for scenario battles and chaining barbs because of his expertise.
People are investing in commanders for kvk right now, as I write this. This is the best info I've got given what we know, and that's better than nothing when making your decisions.
Need help. I have 5 leg commanders (all expertised, William, Liu, Alex, Scipio and Richard[old account was good back in the day]. But now… how do i pair. Currently i do william/liu and Scipio/Alex (Rcihard Benched only pve)
I think putting Smite commanders together gives your march additional damage like 15%. And making Skill damage commanders together(Scipio/Alex) is better.
@@DDKKAY idk, I've tested them before and Scipio Wallace, Liu Alex does a little better than the normal pairs. Scipio just becomes pretty squishy and has low damage output if you pair him with Alex.
Retired whale who quit when Nebu was OP. Watching this video, makes me very happy I got off the money hole. Chisgule what is your main accounts total investment?
Idk how HUO is in niche role I’m like Nevsky is great but huo put so much damage on a target it’s CRAZY yes single target but I’m a CAV main n that is while HUO paired with Joan
When did archers become awesome. I was always an archer prime and outside of open field, the archers couldn’t compete with rally or garrison. I wish this game would have finally gave archers a commander like Atilla (at the time of his release) which just wrecked ppl. I waited 2-3 years…. We never got one so I left the game.
You are telling f2p to use infantry. Why lead those poor souls to slaughter. The minute they enter the open field they get fcked by archers and even cavs can eat them
Spread the word, SAD 4th skill (5k mighty healing when below 60% units remaining) can stack with her 1st skill (deals 80% of healing factor as true damage)!!!!!
Hm, I guess it's "If you have him already, you can use him" for Tariq. Sadly I unlocked only Harold, Pakal and Scipio A as inf rally commanders (I don't include Wallace here). But I haven't upgraded any of them since you should focus on open field as f2p (exception here is Gorgo since you can use her for both field fighting and garrisoning) 😅
Cav so bad its out of every meta now. Worst rally of the three types, worst garrison of the three types, and Chisgule struggling to even keep 2 cav in his top 8 commanders and legit is only doing it to have cav there at all. Lilith really sucks at balancing this game.
Chisgule I wanna ask... Liu Che skippy or skippy Liu Che?... And my Wallace is not max yet... Can i do liu Che Wallace? Would it be good or should I just stick with liu alex or liu Che skippy?.. And i am stuck with gorgo.. I dont know who to pair her with.. I dont have lots of max commanders.. I only have guan yu alex liu Che skippy gorgo max... Martel 5552
I am a bit confused. Liu che is S tier no doubt. But how does he perform well? Ive seen Alex/Liu in kvk and WW/Liu. Is Liu che with scipio good? Like how is liu che used?
Wallace should 100% be above scipioP. scipio should realistically be in niche role at this point untill we get another skill damage inf commander, which is looking unlikely. guan/scipio is by FAR the worst performing field march these days and new players should not be investing in skill based inf commanders at all anymore.
Hi! today i join kvk3 kings land and i don’t know who to pick as main infantry legendary march. i only have aeth expertised as legendary and martel 5311 right now. im stuck between Liu Che and Scipio. i would like a long term investment . Thanks!❤️ hope you answer me
Totally disagree with everything above there. Chisgule is a high spender whale thus he never experienced being f2p boiz. Archers are never for f2p! They do excellent in canyon but if you ever tried to jump open field fight using an archer you will see what I mean first hand 🤭
I'm gonna enter my first kvk3 and I'm cavalry main I have Minamoto expertise and 1011 universal sculpture and 5 legendary equipment hellish Westland and Navar control, i don't know what to do honestly
@@29th_can confirm, 3217 went straight to kvk3 but with Nevsky instead of huo and got really good kp. Go huo and 5515 joan instead and you’ll farm wayy more than with Nevsky now might as well skip Nevsky these days if you don’t have a main cav March yet
A year ago everyone was saying the exact same thing about poison being the future of archers. Seems kind of silly that everyone makes these huge assumptions based off 1 single commander release
You said Choi Yeong lose a lot of skill in open field? Let me say what he brings into the open field: 1. 5 Targets AoE with mighty heal 2. 5% ms and 30% def and 10% normal damage 3. 20% normal damage taken reduction (also smite damage) huge! 4. Up to 40% Counterattack You guys talk about Counterattack in the wrong way. You think your march never gets hit by someone? Absolutely you don't know how f2p feelings Now you see his value in open field with Shajar?🫡 Gorgo lose 1 skill totally in the field - She didn't have march speed - Her expertise was totally useless in Open field but you said she was meta right? Think
I would like to keep some commander relevant because I like their skills like Chandra or attila but to me seems it continually a benching of commanders that have been good but the new ones are just too much better
FYI shajar her tree changes from skill tree to support tree .. it has been officially announced from Chinese server although international haven't announced that changed yet 10:57
How about give us the option to recycle maxed commanders ? Possibly get 50% back. These ‘guide’ videos tend to bite back ,investing in top priority then they become useless lol
every single cycle of new commanders you should NEVER invest into until you realize they perform good/bad same goes with these. then look at them after release and all the data and ask yourself, will this commander be useful when a commander with more stats/active skill damage/whatever gets added. for example, herman prime, he gives poison stacks which is a buff to other marches. thats so useful especially to cav/archer players that i dont think herman will leave the meta, but look at someone like flavius, he left the meta so quickly because he has nothing particularly useful in his kit
Should I max my Herman prime currently 5551 and my Joan currently 5515 or are they ok where they are? Will it be enough to justify the extra gold heads?
@@nicdiamond9989 not worth, ww is litterally gorgo 2.0 thats slightly better in the field but unusable in gar, its a micro optimisation, invest into archers instead
@@nicdiamond9989 a lot of inf no cav? Idk how well gorgo Scipio works, it shouldn't be too good. If gorgo Alex works then I'd do that and Scipio Liu otherwise Gorgo Liu Scipio Alex. Would touch Sargon. Don't invest in WW get new cavs that come soon or get ZL and use ZL Boudica.
Yes, it was my strongest march this KvK, too 🙈 I got you wouldn't "start" that project now, I worry more if I should "finish" it now 😅 Maybe Alex would be more beneficial, depending on how/if he counters mighty healing of the new archers 🤔
Prediction is sajar is going to be S tier if you compare all the similarities with her and lui che because she is connected to him being new mechanic commander . The most important thing people dont have circle formation so people dont use her to full potential immediately and only because of this fact Zl herman stays top not because she underperformed same thing happend with lui che no one had arch formation then everyone used wedge .
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