Legends, the series that explores the lore and history within the world of Horizon. In this episode, we shine a light on the legacy of the most decorated fighting force of Operation Enduring Victory, the 9th MRB. Patreon: / memberships
I would honestly pay for a game that takes place during Operation Enduring Victory. Yes, we would know the outcome, but can you imagine the hopeless ambiance? Or the few moments in which humanity manages a victory like downing one of the Horus class? It would be nice playing through the view point of different soldiers. The thought of it and of a true sequel gets me excited.
Well it wouldn't be too hopeless for the people fighting as they think they'd be saved by Project Zero Dawn but we know what Projekt Zero Dawn really was but it would be great
StarCraft II Wings of Liberty has a similar mission. "My brethren, hear me, for there is little time left. All that remains of our race, our civilization, are those that stand beside you now. Trust in each other. Strike as one will. Let our last stand burn a memory so bright we will be remembered forever."
@@LordTelperion Yea but In Utter Darkness is a vision of one possible outcome when Kerrigan is killed by the Protoss, while Enduring Victory is from the past.
I've always had this idea for a game type that is a multiplayer FPS/RTS hybrid. One player would command the RTS portion of the game and another player would be controlling a "hero" unit from an FPS point of view. It would probably be horrendously difficult to create such a game, but I think it would be a good fit for a H:ZD prequal game.
@@JDWonders I once played a game like that, it was in medieval times, you had like your cities, and you told your soldiers "go here", and you could control one of the soldiers. It was fairly old I think. But for H:ZD, it's even harder to be done
I’ve played through HZD twice so far; I’m 57 years old, and consider it my favorite of all time.. Such a rich lore created in the background for this incredible game. If only movie worlds were this deep. I can’t wait for Forbidden West in 2021. Guerrilla Games rocks
Imagine them at that point in time. Looking at the horizon and thinking “this is it” the swarm is coming...there’s no more reinforcements no back up...just us... the last remaining humans soldiers...looking at the face of death and being brave to the end.
The hope they first had then getting to that point of this is it we have to fight this is the last of us. I feel for them. I wished so hard for them to succeed but they gave there life in sacrifice to by what ever time they could. They are legends.
"My brethren, hear me, for there is little time left. All that remains of our race, our civilization, are those that stand beside you now. Trust in each other. Strike as one will. Let our last stand burn a memory so bright we will be remembered forever."
I often go to the Grave Hoard to examine the Titan frame and in my latest playthrough to achieve all trophies I noticed that the arms holding the Khopesh under the belly of the Horus have a slightly similar design as the light rods inside any Cauldron. And as a Titan has six of these arms the production of one machine would probably be faster than the cauldrons can produce. Also, interesting thought, as stated in a data point "GENERAL HERRES: Dr. Sobeck. As projected, the Wichita salient has collapsed. Five Horus-class Titans have broken through. We predict contact in 34 hours." So by the time the plague engaged the 9th MRB, Gaia would've already been installed and Sobeck probably already at the family ranch.
HZD WAS a super-weapon and it worked, they are dead (hibernating in many cases, but most are destroyed rust-buckets) and the world is reviving. The ultimate Pyrrhic Victory, of course, but a victory nonetheless. Only sabotage by Faro was the "stab in the back" that requires Aloy and makes the game so good as a story. Getting to and eliminating Faro, with Sylens as a wild card, is making this game a multi-game series of epic proportions.
@@nathanokun8801 sylens definitely doesn't want Hades to "die" because he wants information our of Hades. But I don't think sylens is dumb enough to let Hades regain any sort of fathomable control.
The Faro Plague would make for such a great FPS. And knowing the tragedy of Zero Dawn’s true nature would give players a bitter perspective every time the humans in the cutscenes expressed hope.
Like it isn't even a Low quality Channel in Terms of production It is in par with any other Lore channel i know of and since it is about HZD it is probably a lot more interesting than many other Games Like Fallout or at least for me Either way i am so much looking Forward to a sequel and many more Videos of this channel
I was (and am) deeply touched by the game, I think no other game left so many thoughts and such an impact on me! Thank you so much for you work and that you bring the HZD world closer to us! This is unimaginable amount of work, and you made it with so precisely and accurate! Great !))) 😍😍😍 and you have such a pleasant voice and perfect English ✨✨✨
The scary thing is: I believe that this scenario is possible. Humanity has shown that there are individuals that have no clue what monsters they are creating. „If there is a door with a warning: There are three Liches, twohundred Zombies and a big horde of skeletons“ some idiot scorcerer will open it.
I'm not sure if they ever touch on it but can a Horus make more Horus models? If it was possible to take out a Horus why would you not focus everything on taking them out. I just feel like it was something they kinda glossed over unless I missed something.
They had direct energy weapons and rockets so I presume that any air power would be decimated just by the sheer number of machines firing at the same time. I would have used nukes
@@700mobster They did use nukes, probably the entire human nuclear arsenal was used at some point. (You can see clips of nuclear explosions in the background of the Project Zero Dawn intro hologram that the general plays). The problem is that the plague grew at an exponential rate and nukes only bought a little time until the swarm simply ate more biomass and out-reproduced the losses. Most of the large titans bots were probably based in the deep sea as well, and therefore out of reach of practically all nukes. The only hope of nukes having an effect would have been when the Faro Plague was brand new, the glitch had just been detected, and if all the nations of the world at the time was willing to throw every single nuke they had into the affected arena at the same time, and therefor destroying every single last bot. Obviously there would have been no political capital for that at the time, plus Ted Faro was still covering it up at the time.
Remember that armies got fully automated, which means that even the aircrafts were guided by AIs or at least much more inferior computer systems, this allowed the swarms to hack into them and even use them for their advatage. The only possible way humans could've fought the swarms was by using much more primitive technologies that were not completely degitized, and to scale back alltogther (for instance instead of using a drone, manual driven plains will be used) would require time and resources(to manufacture the aircrafts and to traing the would be pilots )which the world had neither.
The gravehoard is such a powerful place, I often wander around it taking in the heavy ambiance of the place. The giant Horus "tentacles" piercing deep through the complex is haunting. The log that you find in the entrance is haunting, you can hear the drilling devices ripping apart the concrete and the terror in the voices of the soldiers. As usual, awesome video.
I think the soldiers knew their efforts were doomed. I can't recall which? but I remember listening to a data pad recording in which, after being told that their position would be compromised by the Faro horde in 30 seconds, one of the soldiers jokes "hey, you think that'll be enough time for Sobek to finish Zero Dawn?", to which all the other soldiers laugh.
Wasn't the only time we hear it either. In the series of messages you hear about/from Sgt. Guliyev when Enduring Victory doctored his messages home, in the original you can hear him have hope in the first one, but in the second he's exhausted, hopeless, and even sarcastically says he's still "holding out for Zero Dawn (scoff). Whatever the hell that is." I mean why wouldn't they have hope at first, ya know? But the other thing Guliyev says that I note is that he doesn't even recognize the places they're defending anymore. Meaning at some point, regardless of what "super weapon" Zero Dawn was, being out there and seeing people becoming pink dolphin smoothies, seeing any and every bio organism basically disintegrate, how could you not help but ask "what world is there gonna be left to save?"
So, I have a random question. When Elisabet first proposes Zero Dawn to Faro, he says that he cant in good conscience authorize it, and she counters by telling him he has a choice: "Now your choice is what I tell them. Sign, and I'll tell them the wealthiest corporation on Earth has guaranteed the funds necessary to build Zero Dawn, exactly as I've designed it. Or don't sign - and I will make sure they and everyone else on this planet knows the real cause of the glitch." Now, when I first played, I thought she meant that if he didnt sign, she'd expose the fact that it was FAS' robots that caused the glitch and him pushing for unbreakable codes that made it possible, but once the glitch becomes well known, it is called the Faro Plague and everyone knows the codes are unbreakable, so it seems like hiding Ted's involvement and choices wasnt what she meant. So, my question is: what secret of Ted's does Elisabet know that is so bad its worse than him being responsible for the death of all life on Earth? What *was* the real cause of the glitch?
It is a stretch, but I was replaying the game again (100% run too). One possible cause of the glitch, the escaped AI program created years before Cyan and Gaia that was designed to get the climate back under control. It felt emotions which led to the creation of AI legal acts to intentionally inhibit emotions (like with Cyan), Ted Faro pointed out how breaking the AI laws by giving Gaia emotion could have massive consequences that they can't anticipate. Furthermore, the name/images of the climate AI appears in a few documents where it shouldnt many years after it escaped, meaning some remnants of it existed. Perhaps this could have been a root cause?
@@ashmetcalf3757 yes that escaped AI Vast Silver I don't think it was ever captured by anyone, I think Vast Silver is the one who made that glitch and somehow it hacked into FAS systems then reprogrammed Faro robot protocols.
A bit late to the conversation but the glitch came from the robots AI becoming self aware and Faro’s robots were so advanced there wasn’t a “back door”created to shut them down
And from a company that only did first person shooters, it's epic and beautiful. My first Platinum was on this game last year. I only have two Platinums, lol. Got the other one several weeks ago.
all horuses are dead they are all deactivated by gaia 50 years after the world ended when she broke the code and sent the deactivation signal making all horuses drop dead
I don't think they took it down, they just damaged it. I mean they were all scurried up in one place and the titan drills through the walls, in an unpredictable pattern. They only had tanks. And it seems like they weren't all inside tanks. Some soldiers died outside of tanks. Maybe they've given up. I think the real reason why that Horus stopped dead in its tracks on that mountain is because those soldiers were probably one of the last available sources of biomass that's close to that Horus. All plants are dead at that point, and any civilians too, or undetected by the Horus. So it went right into hibernation
The last stand at the headquarters of Humanity, the heart of Earth's operations. What must have been going through all their minds, knowing they were (essentially) the last humans? And as the very last territory to be consumed by the Faro Plague, I'm sure NORAD/USRC was bursting at the seams, not just with the final remnants of the Army, but with thousands of civilians lining the corridors, fleeing the encircling wave of death. The final remnants of Mankind in their final fortress. I also wonder if the President, members of Congress, and other VIP's were there too or if they had been evacuated to Elysium? Regardless, the fall of NORAD/USRC was the final fall of Earth itself...the very last resistance. They lost, but at least they didn't make it free, the spirit of Mankind blazed until the end.
Man the audio récords are so sad.. Some soldiers joke around the other telling that en 30 seconds they are going to make contac with the bots.. And the screams of one soliders been kill....
4 titans were taken down But it Was mentioned there were 5. Possibly the Horus that Sylens went at the end scene could still be enabled, just hibernating waiting for it to be awaken.
Makes you wonder had the countries kept massive human armies and weapons, would they have stood more of a chance against the Swarm? Probably not, but still...
Rightfully humanity could have actually won the war, Nukes were effective; jam one close enough to a Horrus and bye bye bot as a whole. Now they were probablly EMP protected but the explosive force of a high yield nuke going off inside a swarm yeah that would destroy a bot. Problem is well the side effects of a lot of nukes being used. They even address the exasperation of biosphere collapse due to early tactical nukes being used. They were still clawing back from all the devastation of the 30's to then introduce a self inflicted "nuclear winter" might as well just have let the bots eat everything. Easier to rebuild from the ground up then try and fix whatever unholy mess they made.
I hope at some point in the future Guerrilla make a seperate playable story of the 9th mrb, mixing the story telling and character building of HZD and mabye the first person aspect of Killzone. These brave soldiers deserve to have their story told in full.
Hello there, I just recently started my second playthrough on this great game and decided to look further into the story details. Also I accidentally found you through the wikia and you have helped me link together and understand many parts of the story, which I would have probably missed. Well worthy of my sub!
im not sure, and im probably wrong, but at 5:11 i don't think its California marine, i think its California marin (as in California marin county, near san Francisco) also a potential thing is that as seen in forbidden west's trailer, the golden gate was destroyed and i think the cal marin battle may have been the cause of that
Another great video by what seems to be an evolving and future great auditor. Stories told are engaging and riled with true sense of actual deep rooted knowledge and careful thought of what being portrayed.
I still think this would make a great standalone $20-30 fps game, battling the Faro Swarm and culminating in this final stand holding out as long as possible.
The hackability issue is a quick solve imo. Leaving a backdoor makes the robots prone to being hijacked but what if you intentionally leave one. However, the only thing it does is insta kill the machine. Better to self destruct when hacked and buy another than have them switch teams or in this case go rogue.
Blackquartz standard, no backdoors at all is what they said. If there is one, whats to prevent the hacker from disabling any self destruct system in time or how would it detect that the hacker go through and is now in control?
Not shure if you still make these awsome and informative vids. But can you make one about the hades titans. Size, movement, weapons replicating speed and what if alot had to fight one in horizon 2. Would it have a soft spot to target or does aloy have to enter it somehow and kill it from the inside.
It's mentioned in a data point about I belive the 9th MRB even talking about a kill a Litium beach. They have to drop in basically and blow out the foundries inside the mech. So yeah even with the Horrus sitting there for hundreds of years they still appear in excellent condition they have no real weak spot, just have to either blow up the manufaturing plant inside or maybe if it has a main CPU type area assuming no redunency but I would imagine they had those.
Im really really hoping that guerilla will make a prequel into this very wonderful game a prequel which shows the timeline during enduring victory.....
All I got to say is bravo to the story team at Guerrilla! You went from Killzone to telling one of the richest, engrossing, and saddest lore I ever read. But please don't turn into Naughty Dog. Imagine a book series about the plague and the resurgence of life.
I don't really understand why the old world didn't use nukes on the faro swarm. Not enough to cause a nuclear winter, but enough to take out every horus class machine
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It’s game, there are always massive plot holes. Why didn’t they use faro combat bots against faro plague? The faro machines were as unhackable as the swarm. So gelp with few nukes and in control faro bots sweep the rest. Destroy the faro bots in control -> the end.
@ I can answer that, they did use nukes but the issue was it wasn't enough. As stated in bad news when they realized the glitch and swarm it had already reached critical mass which was far to late. To send in another swarm or open up the full nuclear arsenal would spell doom for the planet and humanity even quicker. If they had learned it the swarm sooner and acted then the nuclear option or sending in another swarm might have worked but alas.
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@@comandercarnis It simply doesn't work from timeline point of view. How large such swarm has to be before anyone(outsider) notices? When it attacks first country etc. it would come up. You could simply slow down the swarm with nukes while you would built faro Horuses that would also build more bots and soon you would have much bigger army than the swarm. Most of the world would be producing more bots against the swarm while nukes would be used simultaneously to take out every Horus spotted everywhere. Sure, the area where the faro bots start invading would probably be unlivable for some decades, but that's it. You don't need big nukes to take out such things, small kiloton nukes would work and they could be used in great numbers and still don't mess with biosphere in any meaningful way.
Maybe I'm overthinking it, but upon completing the game and watching a buttload of lore videos, there are still so many unknowns in the HZD universe. How did the "glitch" affect ALL of Faro machines all at the same time? At the moment of the first swarm going rogue, surely there were still units unaffected by the problem - on production lines still being built, in warehouses pending delivery, armies not participating in conflicts, all presumably unpowered to avoid wasting resources. Couldn't those machines be patched up and refit to combat the swarm? Also, I assume bombardment and missile strikes were impossible due to FARO swarm air superiority, but we haven't seen any flying war machines yet, and no info about them exists at Maker's End.
it appears you didn't play the game or learned the lore. Scarabs of the Faro swarm were named the "Apex Predator" by Dr. Sobeck based on their abiilities to hack anything and every robot imaginable. you would be just supplying more troops to the robot enemy.
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@@sergeontheloose the problem was that faro bots were said to be unhackable as well. So how could swarm bot hack another faro bot? If it could, then they are not unhackable and thus they should be hackable. You make more scarabs than the swarm and hack away. There are always massive plot holes in things like these.
They couldn't send in another swarm because by the time they realized how bad things were it was far far to late.
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@@comandercarnis That simply doesn't make any logical sense. How would not anyone know when it attacks first country or so? You'd simply use nukes to slow down the swarm, destroy all Horuses possible, limiting their capability to build while simultaneously build massive number of own horuses that would build bigger army than the swarm. Your horuses would have no casualties, they would build everything without pause where as swarm horuses would be destroyed all the time and their number would either stagnate or get smaller while yours grow expotentially.
@ you might not have read the data points on the state of the world but corporations held immense sway and power in the old world of horizon zero dawn. I mean to the point they held more control than the government and Ted faro held an incredible amount of wealth and power with his company FAS which is why he was even allowed to make the chariot line without anyone telling him no or questioning him. It's why he was able to keep the truth about the swarm going out of control hidden for so long. Had he said something early on instead of being worried about his PR appearance then yeah deployment of nuclear weapons or another swarm would've ended the situation before it got out of hand however Ted keep the truth hidden till the swarm had reached critical mass. The deployment of nuclear weapons or another swarm at that point would speed up our demise.
