Legion: 7.1.5 Ret Paladin Guide (PvE | In-depth) 

The amount of effort this guy puts into his videos is amazing. I've been following you since like Reaper of Souls launched lol. Keep up the great work Quin!

I wish every class had one Quin for such good content creation .. FeelsBadMan

i dont even play paladin but this guide is so well put together that i just watched it.

Quin, dude, this guide is amazing! As a decent ilvl ret struggling to keep up, you taught me the ways and I have seen HUGE improvement. I had zero questions after watching this guide. Thanks brotha

I don't play this game but if I did I bet this video would be very helpful. Good luck to all the new ret pally rats.

For every one who wants to know what his sword mog is, it is "twinblade of the phoenix" which drops from kael'thas who is the last boss in the 25 man normal mode in "the eye". This boss is also famous for dropping the mount "ashes of al'ar".

I haven't played in a long time, but I enjoyed this comprehensive look into a class! Well structured and well commented by you, so thanks!

i havent played wow for 5 years still watched this, cause quin quality guides you know.

Been playing Ret for years and finally feel decent about myself that I've figured some of this out on my own. In any case, this is a great guide! Still learning new stuff about my favorite class and spec. Thanks for this exhaustive look, really explains it all and still accessible enough to newbies to really get into it.

Great video Quin very thorough. Thanks for taking the time to make it.

you are a god among men for quality guides man. I wish every class had someone like you

Great video Quin! The best guide i have seen so far throughout every class. Just wanted to ask, how do you rate the legendary trinket, is it good?

This guide is really great. It's awesome that you put this much effort into helping other people play ret better. Good job :3

Quin doing a pally guide? What a dream come true

Quin you legend! Thanks for the guide, haven't jammed my Ret in a long time. Make more guides bro, really digging them!

So in depth this guy is awesome.

So what build is best for GR pushing?

Recently started playing Ret and this vid is gold. Thanks for your help!

A few things he should have added to the guide would be, the shoulder/chest set bonus from the Suramar dungeons is BiS. Also should have mentioned exact value for haste breakpoints and what those breakpoints do.

thanks for the guide, going ret as main alt for nightold, this helps me a lot.

Was looking forward to seeing the high quality guide from D3 make their way to WOW. Cant fault you there PAPA, great quality guide as always.

OMG i'm so happy we have the same weapon transmog. Also there's a better plate bikini set, Chestplate of Tuten'Kash from RFK and Cenarion Legplates from the zangarmarsh questline.

Can't wait for your glorious return to D3 :D

Quin69 you are the man! Love all the vids, got hooked ever since you showed the One Punch Monk. Didn't even know you played WoW. Gonna have my guild subscribe to your channel. Keep up the great work.

Thanks for the guide, really makes me think i might have to re roll my toon. keep them coming

Holy, hell, the guide that we have been promise since 200,000 follows. Awesome Quin! I wonder if he covered the NERF to the legendary belt LUL

Very informative! I'm thinking of playing paladin, but wasn't so sure.. Now, I really will!

Just started my first alt, thank you for your video it looks really professional.

great guide dude everything so well explained and so easy to understand perfect , thanks alot

Very Helpful bro. really love your work in D3 and now in WOW. I have the wrists that are my auto bubble haha. Tanks again for the time you put in to help others.

Nice video, the best guide I've seen in this patch, thank you you leave me a lot of doubts on me.

I thought your RU-vid channel had gone to the magical place in the sky with your eyebrows.

Arcane Torrent doesn't work on the fears in MoS, btw. They've arbitrarily made some spells unaffected by it. There are a few other otherwise-interruptable effects it can't prevent either, but I can't remember them off the top of my head. It works on the other stuff you can interrupt in there, though. It's still the best utility racial by far, of course - would make belf the best paladin race easily even for pve as long as you cared about 5 mans.

Hey Quin 1 question: I have Convergence of Fates, but should be the 2. trinket an active one or a passive one? the thing is wings are 15 sec early rdy than the 2. trinket, so what would u prefer? plz answer me:)

pretty much nailed all the questions mate, good job! ;)

I didn't even look at the name for this, I started it while looking at my other screen, heard your voice and went "boy this guy sounds a lot like Quin".

One of the best guides for ret ever GJ quinn by CRipz

Hey man, amazing guide. I was wondering about your comment that versatility is your best secondary stat, but it could be different for others. How do you determine what your best stat is? The site(s) I use offers one-size-fits-all answers.

thanks for your hard work you put into this guide Quin! it Was awesome!

Hi! Thanks for the in depth video recently switched from prot to ret for new guild. When starting the opener without a ring is the best rotation judge wake crusade TV divine hammer TV (doing second TV with 4 HP) or judge wake crusade TV divine hammer zeal TV (doing second TV with 5 HP). The first one stacks crusade faster the second puts zeal on cd donno which is better.

You shouldn't use Executioner's Sentence if Judgment is about to run out and you won't be able to reapply it before the damage ticks... Because the game only checks if its judged when the damage is applied. You can judge after you use Execution sentence to get the judgment bonus as long as you do it before the damage is applied.

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but if you use hekili addon (gives you a calculated rotation) it put up an icon of rebuke saying you should intertupt

I don't even have paladin but I still enjoyed watching your guide :D

Thank you so much for this guide; would it be possible for you to list the rotation in comments?

Hey Quinn, great guide! Could you please explain the 25%+ haste amount while using Whisper of the Nathrezim, I can't find the cap info anywhere, i assume the cap for 100% uptime is at 31% haste. Also would you recommend using Liadrin's Fury Unleashed instead of Chain of Thrayn? Got all of them. Got the up-time of Whisper of the Nathrezim at 80.37% which is not that good with 25+ haste or am I wrong? Odpovědět

Quick question, what addon are you using for your macros. I didn't see that addressed in your comments, though it may have been and I simply missed it. I'm just coming back, and I've been trying to get an addon like that forever. Thanks.

Awesome guide man!!!

Hey so JV sync phenomenally with Crusade. Using JV/Ash/JV gets you to 11 stacks of Crusade in like 2 seconds. Instead of building through templars.

How long have you been playing WoW? I'm only asking because it seems like you know so much about every game you play. It's impressive.

Haha saw myself in this video @ 1:33 Eisheal :D. Only just lvled up my pally 2 days ago coz I wanted to try Ret thanks for the excellent guide Quin :D.

Great guide, just one question, what if your somewhat unlucky like me and you get ring, boots, prydaz and sephuz as your legendaries. How would you rate those non dmg increasing legendaries?

awesome man nice to see u playing wow keep them coming bro

Why did I even watch this? I dont play WoW.

What addon do you use to get more information about your attributes?

Sick Guide Quin! good work!

why does noone talk about the new rotation for aoe? what's the prio? lol judgement 50%> consec > spender 5 hp> divine > judgement > zeal/crusader strike 2stack > spenders? and what is the fastest way to sim multiple pieces of gear/talent combinations? do i just sim every single one slowly?

Great and informative guide, Quin. thank you :)

Great guide Quin. I was wondering if there its possible you could upload your gnosis profile it seems very handy.

If you still play wow trought the next patches, i hope you can do other guides for us Paladins. Tnks so much for the help and tips, keep the great work, luv ya rat king o/

ik judgement of light for ret is useless if you got a prot paladin cause thats their go to talent in that tier. but its not useless if your running a mythic+ and your the only paladin the healing it gives your whole team adds up and every bit counts

hey i dont know if you read this but clc ret isnt really my addon of choice idk i dont like it much. however you could test and suggest ovale spell priority which is not only for rets but for all speccs except healers so its pretty universal and also has an option for putting in your personal simcraft string instead of the default one. also your interface is kind of confusing like i am missing so many skills in your bars^^ where is templars verdict? where is divine storm and stuff? this really draws my attention and i cant focus on what you are saying actually :/ but loved your D3 guides and i love that you do WoW now! hope to see lots of good content in the future!

This was very well done, thanks for the help.

Never knew Quinny played WOW... not mad or anything I just always watched him for anything Monk on D3... like my go to and referral to others. That's pretty rad he plays WOW as well.

I wondered for a second why my burst peaked at 1.2m whilst yours was 1.5m, then I realized that the legendary belt you have got changed into a BiS legendary, hope I get that or the cloak some day, unlikely though since I got the power ring, hammer head and sonic boots.

man, thanks a lot for the best guide i've ever seen. Can i see the content of your guide somewhere else? webpage or such?

Dont even play WoW but this guide was very well done

hey man i know this is an stupid question but right now , i have this one in my mind and i want to know if you can help this , i have a Legenday "KILJAEDEN BURNING WISH" Trinket and i wanna know if i should use it with other Legenday that gives Dps to the Character.

So you are saying that even if I only do 300k outside wings, I am doing it fine? Cause that is what is driving me insane, I feel like I do absolutely no damage outside wings and that is one of the reasons why I always get kicked from Mythic runs as my dps only shows 300-450k if we wipe on a boss.

If I have 3 Holy power and my blade of justice resets. Do I want to use Blade of justice again before using a spender incase the blade will reset again? Wings or no wings.

hey quin, what are the best stats for my ret paladin?

Where are you looking for which races are best for mage for example. Is there an website or smt ?

Can you please teach me (explain me) how to get your UI? I am really new in World of Warcraft (3 days already dived into it)....some friends told me that you use addons/different UI to get that cascade of skills in the center of the screen. It is hard for me to follow in dungeon/instances my skills. and on your screen look like 4 times bigger....i would like to have this. Please, kindly awaiting your reply.

cant get the import TMW to work properly i hit ctrl A + ctrl +C and then CTRL +V into TMW down the bottom where it says import/export/reset profile and doesnt seem to do anything even though it says Import successful but it doesnt seem to do anything?

Quin doesn't WoW Paladin feel identical whit Diablo Crusader? I mean so many skills "imported" from Diablo. I don't know Paladin class very well but does it used to have same skills/talents before Legion or it literally turned into a Crusader?

Dude I love your nitty gritty stream for the ret pally on Every little thing! Just one thing though, It's draught as in DRAFT not DRORT. Sorry just a pet peeve but thank you sincerely for the youtube post!

Great guide! thanks Quin.

Hey man, nice video. What add on do you use for your ui and bars?

Hey Quin! With the nerfs to both Draught and CoF (70% less procs) now, Are we back to fishing for a stat stick and Fcm ?

Are you on top of the damage board in dungeon/raids?

I feel like watching this video just reminds me of the problem that Blizzard found with Fire Mages. Their damage was locked into their Combustion window, and they just tried to change that in 7.1.5. Ret just sounds like an amped up version of Fire, with Quin doing 1.5 million damage during Crusade (AKA Combustion) and doing 350k outside of Crusade. Ret just seems like a Melee Fire Mage in terms of the principles of their damage. Putting their entire kit towards extending Crusade and getting the maximum amount of damage out during Crusade, as Fire Mages did during Combustion. Weird.

Run on around on your horsie cracked me up lol

Heyy Quin nice video i have a question about a senario i meet sometimes. I was on Odyn mythic and we use BL in start of phace 3 where i have around 1 min left for my cds, is it better to pop 2nd pot on cds or on bl or should i have waited with popping the last cd and "waste" 1 min(this whould meaby mean i get to use it one time less, atleast not fully)? Normally I use 2nd pot on cds when there are 26 sec left to have as high stack as possible before popping it, or mostly waiting 20-30 secs if i know bl is inc. soon.

Great guide, my fav class too !

very new to wow :) one quick question, does Wrath of the ash bringer trait increase duration of crusade?? thanks for a great video learnt so much !

Great guide as usual!

REALLY good guide so far, but you seem to focus heavily on whats best for running raids ect, i get that because ya know end game but i'm a pretty much solo player and i focus on world quests and stuff.

Quin plays wow? sick

Hello :D what bag addon do you use and what is the name of the addon to show ilvl on the Gear icons?

Awesome video! This was super helpful

Could you tell me what Addons you use for raids / the raid character panels!

do you think it couldd be possible to upload an image of your UI withouut the cam ?

cya man, look i'm using the lengedary cape, in my rotation i'm focusing in get 5 hp and spend, I think I can use the buff cape better, am I right?

can you tell me what heirlooms i should go ? since i dont have a pala but wanne level it .... keep up the good work !!!!!!

So, question for ya. I main holy/prot, so do not have any legendaries for my ret spec other than the belt atm, so I was wondering what you think the best opener without the ring would be? What I do now is open with blade, auto attack, blade, crusader strike into wings/judgement and then burst it out with ashes and all that. I do this as I noticed the free blade of wrath proc seem to have a 100% proc chance when you enter combat by using it. Seems to be the most efficient for me so far, and feels good going into wings with what is basically 2 full holy power bars in a very short time, but I might be wrong doing that.

Thanks for a really distinctive channel Ihope you asked me to write the top macro ret

What addon are you using to add ilevel to the gear slots on your character page?

Hey Quin, I watched alot of your diablo monk videos in the past, and now I just realized that we also play the same class in wow :) Been playing prot paladin in legion so far. Now Im trying to get into some ret action, so I watched your guide on that. I dont have the right legendaries, so I was just wondering how my sephuz's secret is doing now in 7.1.5 after the buff, since you didnt mention it at all in the video.

Quin will you be returning to Diablo for season 10/ 2.5?

Hello, great video, love it! What addon do you use for your bag? :)

Nice guiderino mr.Rat when did you get the Shoulders i wanna c your reaction.