Can David Haller be redeemed? Ryan and Greg are back to break down the mind-bending Season 3 premiere of FX's Legion. Subscribe to GameSpot Universe! ru-vid.com... Follow Us - / gsuniverse Like Us - / gamespotuniverse www.gamespot.com
When David vaporized the division 3 soldiers with molecule disintegration and pyrokinesis. But at the same time i hated that Legion so easily, could be shot as some common thug by Syd and getting his arm hacked off by Kerry.@@karlsingh9076
Did anyone else notice that the Vermillion gave their chance of success at 67% aka 2 out of 3 success rate, they showed the two times they were successful (killing David twice) and the one time they were not
"It's always blue," is a callback to season one when David and Lenny (or was it actually Benny) did drugs together. The drug was a blue liquid that they would put in a device that acted like a vaporizer. David asked, "Why is it blue?" And Lenny replied, "It's always blue." That blue drug looks and acts a lot like the blue liquid David was producing with his happy thoughts in this episode. Is the blue drug from season one the same drug that David is making in this episode (because, time travel)? And yes, "It's Always Blue" is also the name of the Songs From Legion album featuring music from season 2. (Fantastic album, by the way.)
It's also not a real memory. Lenny specifically says "remember how you would always ask me why is it blue and I would say it's always blue" and David said "Ya, but that wasn't real, that never happened." So I don't think even Benny said that, seems like it was just entirely manufactured.
Thank God someone pointed this out lol seems like they would remember a line from an episode over the name of a song. Although there are so many things to pay attention to, can't blame them for missing it
My favorite moment is during the musical number where Switch crawls through all those tunnels to get to David. Along with one Switch and Amahal Farouk talked in the mental realm.
This show is amazing ! The way Switch time travels is so well done. I can't believe this show is going away after this season : ( Great break down as always Ryan and Greg
Did anyone else notice Farouk seemingly using his powers near the end of the episode, right before the raid on David's hideout? It seemed like he was doing something pretty big because he was concentrating very hard. He also tried to persuade Syd from going on the raid. At that point he had already spoken with Switch and knew Syd would shoot and kill David. If he wanted David dead, you'd think he'd want Syd to go on the raid.
sad face- last season of legion - happy face, what a frakkin season premier - can i use the word lush for the art direction and visuals??? 10 out of 10!
Totally agree. That was one of if not the best episode of the series so far. What a pleasant surprise since last season wasn't quite up to par in some places.
@@Kenneth_James agreed that its up there as far as a best ep - and maybe ive been gaslit by hawley, or smoking too much david juice, but i cant even remember a bad or subpar episode! lol!
I thought the beginning was kinda pretentious, but the rest was sheer brilliance. Wouldn't call it the best episode of the series so far, a bit worried about the whole time travel thing which always creates plot holes, but very hopeful for this final season.
@@renx81 Legion as a character is heavily into time travel in the comics though so I feel like it has to end with a time travel fuck up. I'm hoping that the Legion timeline with future Syd was essentially the Age of Apocalypse timeline.
Oliver founded Summerland sometime in the 40s with Kerry, he was in the astral plane for 20 years, had to have been active for at least a decade I'd think based on all of the tech that has his voice and many other things that's around. Plus Oliver asked David if "Free Love" was still a thing, so he must've gone in in the 60s. So mid 80s.
@@MusicRainfield Well ya we don't have a ton of their tech now. Noah said it's meant to feel like it doesn't exist in any specific time. It doesn't really matter what year it is since that timeline's pretty massively different. I just think the 80s makes the most sense.
@@MusicRainfield That just means its an 80's where some genius come up with things sooner, comics are filled with those type of people, on the mutant front people like Forge come immediately to mind.
He also deployed Pyrokinesis on the person that shot him with the pistol. According to the comics that was one of his original abilities under the personality of Cyndi, along with telepathy (Jemail Karami) and Telekinesis (jack Wayne). It is great the show is paying tribute to "new mutants", where Legion first made his appearance.
You seem to claim Switch mentioned robots *after* meeting with the Shadow King, but it was really payoff of her previous mention about her dad's room full of robots during her original discussion with David. I took her comment to Amal as David seeming more human (emotional, loving?, free) while Shadow King is robotic (cold, conformist).
The Division 3 aircraft looks very familiar to some of the pre-production artwork for Jodorowsky's Dune, with the dazzle camouflage paint scheme on space ships.
I LOVED Switch ( that scene with her and Farouk in the Astral Plane was fucking awesome!) and that they showed her powers all in one episode. I love the look of David's cult compound (someone has to explain that big ass pig to me) and Lenny's entrance was fucking boss! The cinematography of this show gets better and better with each season (fun fact: the premiere was directed by Andrew Stanton, the same guy who directed Finding Nemo).
Well how I see the teeth thing is that, she breaks one of her teeth when she is about to creat an alternative future and leaves it there as a souvenir. And as she travels back in time she gets her teeth back again. So when Syd found her tooth in the end it means switch just used her powers.
The 'breakfast queen' can also be a nod to Fargo S2, where Karl Weathers (Nick Offerman) called himself the breakfast king. And the orange fish could refer to Lester's poster in Fargo S1: "What if you're right and they're wrong?" The airplane is actually an Airbus Beluga.
@11:50 - Its a call back to season one. Lenny and David are getting high on the floor with the Blue Vapor. David asks: 'Why is it blue?' Lenny replies: 'Its always blue.'
If davids delusion is that he's a good person who deserves love then none of these characters and none of them deserve love. Syd is a hypocrite and basically a rapist herself, shadow king is absolutely a monster, and the dude with the burnt face DEFINITELY doesn't deserve the gay love he already has for all the terrible things he's done with division. i think the biggest delusion is that this has ever been about what ANYONE, especially david "deserves" and more about what they already have... david has power, and that makes people afraid of him. Whether or not he's a good person will always be contrived in service of their fears
@@Ben-rz9cf Ya I don't think that whole thing is true at all. If David has any delusion it's that he can control his other personalities. I know he has moments of clarity where he realizes just how gone he really is, but ever since Syd talked about normal just being an idea that just restrains them he seems to have this delusion that as long as he's doing what he thinks is ultimately right that he's on a righteous path and that his version of normal is in control enough. Meanwhile he's literally got his other personalities arguing with him constantly.
@@maxhydekyle2425 from the looks of it he's keeping them in check. A person with his powers could've been doing far worse with them but he's minding his own business, tending to his cult lol. Jokes aside, the concept of good and bad left my mind a while ago. What I can judge these characters by is their actions and Syd has manipulated David In far worse ways than the Shadow King has..
Favorite moment: Switch trying to reach the Enlightenment House. The superorganism song Something For Your M.I.N.D. combined with the visuals were phenomenal. Both the various environments she crawled through and the kaleidoscopic background patterns took me on a proper trip. Noah Hawley and crew are genius!
i feel like they're setting up elements to follow the The Wizard of Oz analogy "follow the yellow bus" - brick road all the tin man references david the magic man
I really enjoy these reviews you guys put up. My prediction for this season is that David is going to take advantage of Switch, she's going to see this, join Division 3, and I think the Orb we saw in Season 1 and 2 is going to be sent back to capture Past David from Season 1, ultimately creating some kind of time loop. I think that would be a GREAT ending.
Idk how you are confused with the robot thing. It's pretty straight forward. He is working with a secret government organization. Not confusing at all.
Also the hand cut is a Star Wars classic thing, the scene of Clark looks like the view from The Millennium Falcon and when David fights the forces of division using his hands it's like when Darth Vader uses the force to left people up in the last scene of Rogue One
But what was Farouk in the process of doing right before the house disappeared? Also, I felt that the tooth was her totem. But yeah, I need to understand if Farouk somehow had something to do with the home disappearing rather knowingly or not. Thoughts?
Another fun nod is that the question "why is it blue?" And the awnser "its always blue" both refers to legions stand for opium and is in every season. Personally i love how obscure theyve made it.
What if Switch’s father is the creator of the sentinels and by “robots” she meant that, calling Farouk a “sentinel” because he’s with the team (D3) killing mutants?
I think it is very unfair that just at the moment when David realizes how difficult it is to be mentally unstable at the end of season 1, it happens that a kind of mysterious ball abducts him and retains him for 1 year in total control of the Shadow King. That is one of the things that stopped being important, but then you realize that maybe David went on the side of "wanting to change things no matter how" when he saw reality as different as it had been yesterday. Now it is too late to save him, but at least I would like a sincere apology from the entire "Division 3" or "Summerland", since they have been part of Farouk's trap as much as David
When they say " why is it blue...its always blue" or "violets are...its always blue". I interpreted that as a call to the first season when david and lenny are puffing the vapors. At that point "the monster" was lenny, or benny, which in turn, i thought that to be a meaning of david is now in your head and has become "the monster" that plants a seed in your mind or should i say an egg...to see it grow. Meh, could be the soundtrack thing.
Something from season 2 still has me puzzled. What time period or timeline does future Syd come from? She obviously lost an arm at some point and she wanted David to help Farouq find his body. If she had knowledge that David would become the evil that destroys the world, why would she ask present David for help? Wouldn't she be afraid of him? By the time Farouq found his body, she still had her arm. So was that timeline altered or erased when Farouq traveled to the future to see her or what?
It's not "Violets are Blue". The line is "Why is it blue?" in reference to David asking Lenny/Benny about the blue vape drug he takes in season 1, which the song from season 2 is also referencing.
This has been on my mind since the ep finished - anyone else notice Vermillion (I think) say the chance of success for the raid is 67% - and Switch fails the first two attempts... but not the third. Must admit, I like the way this show works - so much stuff for brain to ponder...
Hopefully the pacing of this season flows much smoother than last season. Also, I think the time travel demon should be explained and properly introduced. Sure, the unknowable presence makes things unnerving. Yet, if you know something will never come and is only there to spook, then it looses its scare factor as there is no actual threat.
Switch will go blind because of her time travel. Syd's arm will be lost in payment to go back in time to fulfill the past promise of time travel from season two.
I feel like the shadow king did something when the house teleported away. You can see him moving his hands up like he's using his power. Maybe he teleported the house? That way Syd wouldn't be able to kill David
How they used the tapes that Switch listened to as a narration on how time travel works and how you can ONLY complicate things and almost never get to the "perfect" result. Part of me thinks that the narration is actually David's personality as Switch's father explaining it to her and that maybe he will awaken this power himself and when he does he'll awaken #227 (which for all we know is Switch already).
I make be making something out of nothing, but I noticed that when David made a mental space for switch, he asked her to picture her bedroom, somewhere that mattered to her, but Farouk just made what he wanted. I think this is showing how he actually cares about her, not just himself (he is a man).
Switches father talking to her from the TV, as if he's there in the room (but not there, only on the tv, possibly a video recording, like the voice on the tape she listens to teaching her about traveling through time) is VERY reminiscent of a scene from the movie VIDEODROME.
Thank you guys! So glad this is back, helps my feeble mind tremendously! I had to watch it 3 times just to make sure I felt enough to say "OK I think I got what's going." Which of course was a lie cuz you two just pointed out at least 3 things I missed. Keep up the amazing jpb! 👏
Okay, I watched season 1 and 2 of Legion and barely understood them. I like watching your videos where you explain what is happening better than watching the actual show. Thanks so much. You gained a subscriber today. Awesome contents. I will be watching. Don't trust the mustache. One question...kinda a left over from the previous seasons...who are we supposed to trust? I mean, who is the good guys and who is the bad guys. I personally am still rooting for David, but I am not sure if I am rooting for the bad guy or not. LOL. Thanks.
Anyone else cringed like hell when syd shot David or Kerry chopped his arm off? Legion is supposed to be in the same tier as Dormammu and Galactus at full power, and he gets shot by Syd who is a normal human ability wise. Also kerry managed to hack his arm off, a high level street fighter against a beyond godlike mutant. I would like to hear other opinions?
@@thomasrosendahl2783 its legion i dont think anything as straight forward as it seems.I feel like he was testing her powers. If it turns out that he was just begin killed and thats that then itd be a lil disappointed.
I feel like every time that Switch would travel back in time she would lose a body part? The farther she goes the bigger the body part that she would lose (it’s kinda scary tbh) So just like robots they are built with parts.
Same, but I think it's more like if she changes something, she will have to pay. Because she touched her teeth every time she walked in, but only when David escaped the last time that Syd found the teeth
Farouk had something to do with David's escape the 3rd time, watch him prepare, then his pose when it happens. The same thing happened when David escaped the trial in S2.
Anyone else think Switch's father looks like Admiral Fukuyama? That would explain her father's "room filled with robots" as well as her dislike for robots.
n o The admiral is japanese, and has been a cyborg since college. Jia-yi (switch) is literally chinese, is a teenager, and btw just because 2 asian characters in the same show doesn't mean they're related.
@@heracles67 people are just making connections for easter egg sake now, it probably wouldn't add much to her character or the overall story line, probably pointless..
The "It's always blue" line has been said several times throughout the show. For example, the homeless version of David yelled it as a random woman was walking by him. I've thought that maybe it's in reference to the Matrix scene where Neo is given a choice by Morpheus to swallow the red pill or the blue one -- a choice between the harsh truth of a post-apocalyptic world or the far more pleasant lie of the Matrix. The liquid drug that David makes is also blue colored. He wants people to feel better by using a drug. He helps people avoid the harshness of their lives. David himself wants to be loved and is incapable of realizing the harsh truth about himself.
Hey, I don't think you guys ever referenced Tori Amos's song "Cornflake Girl". I think that's the origin of Lenny's title..which has now become Breakfast Queen. From Wikipedia: "The inspiration for "Cornflake Girl" came from a conversation she was having with a longtime friend about female genital mutilation in Africa, specifically how a close female family member would betray the victim by performing the procedure. Amos has said that growing up, the name they gave to girls who would hurt you despite close friendship was cornflake girls." Kind of makes sense that Lenny would use it to refer to herself.
These Marvel Shows are so smart and reflect the way comic books use science from Bruce Banner being mutated by gamma radiation to mutants like switch being able to manipulate time for their own advantage.........Just read a story about how time might not even exist just something people invented in there minds so cool. And comic books were putting this in their material decades ago.
This show is so good, and is so sad that is not so well known, I mean I struggled to find it online, I waited 2 days for Italian subtitles, and I didn't find it, so i just watched it in English, and it was AMAZING
One other thing -- David already can alter reality by himself. There was a whole episode dedicated to him creating alternate realities in an attempt to save his step sister. Farouk calls him a God and says he has the power to change the world at will. So why would he need Switch to change the past. I dont think he does. I think he wants her to know the past. To know who his father is. Though I guess you could say he hasn't mastered his powers yet and feels he needs help.
I love Cary (played by Bill Irwin). I remember as a kid watching him in Popeye the movie (1980) and then watching him with my kids as Mr Noodles in Elmo. And just learned he's a graduate from clown college, who knew!
Just realized that in this episode we see the raid happen 3 times with Div 3 killing David 2 of those times or 67% Success rate that Mainframe gives when we see the raid from Div 3 POV..
The giant hook gag and spinning cup make me think this is not reality, that in fact they successfully caught David and he is now in a matrix-like environment where they play out the simulation.
Not every fan of Legion is a fan of Twin Peaks, so we do not all think of TP when certain scenes are there. In fact, I did not know Legion was based on a comic book character. I like the show because of the acting, directing and the writing.
Another thing is that the shadow king stil didnt want sid to come to the mission even after finding out that she was successful in killing david. Meaning mabey faruk dosent want him to die or he wants to be the one to do it
