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Leica M3 vs Canon P [A Brief Comparison] 

Alec Langton
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This time around I want to take a look at the Canon P and compare it to the Leica M3. For those of us unwilling to hand our entire savings over to Leica, but who still want the amazing industrial design and rugged yet simple qualities of the Leica M3, there exists a camera that will satisfy both you and your wallet.
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The Canon P [A Brief History]
Let me begin with a question; why do so many people still shoot on rangefinder cameras? Some will argue that early rangefinders maintained an image-quality advantage over their SLR counterparts thanks to the lens elements being closer to the image plane because there is no mirror taking up space within the camera body. Okay, that makes sense. Others make claims that being able to see the image you are taking without any “blackout,” otherwise known as the very short period when the mirror is flipped up in an SLR allowing film to be exposed, provides a clearer perspective of what is being captured. I would argue against this point. On an SLR, you are seeing what the lens is seeing; on a rangefinder, you are literally never seeing what the lens is seeing. If it were a matter of “follow through,” as you would hold your swing for a moment after you hit the ball in golf, then you might as well not be looking through the viewfinder at all; the clearest perception you’ll have of that moment of time around you is not through a viewfinder of any sort, but rather if you directly observe your surroundings. However, there are two arguments for rangefinders that make a lot of sense to me. Firstly, rangefinder cameras are compact and durable; this makes them great for street photography, but also for rugged conditions and travel. Secondly, and the reason I believe the Leica M3 is still so popular today, is that rangefinder cameras, especially Leicas, are ingenious pieces of industrial design. Quick to operate and easy to replicate the same actions on, these cameras put you in full control of your settings, without overwhelming you with inputs. Oh, and they are also nice to look at.
So, what if you find yourself drawn to an M3, but you don’t want to spend upwards of a thousand dollars on a camera body just to feel that industrial design? Que the Canon P rangefinder camera; looks familiar, doesn’t it?
Before we talk about this camera today, I think it’s only fair to give a little bit of background first. The Leica M3 was released in 1954, greeted by near-instant widespread popularity among professional photographers. With multiple framelines for 50, 90 and 135mm lenses, a large and life-like viewfinder, a highly accurate rangefinder system, and shutter speeds all the way down to 1/100th of a second, this camera was revolutionary in a lot of ways. So then, it makes sense that when the Canon P was released in 1958, and it also featured a 1:1 viewfinder, a 1/1000th second shutter, multiple framelines, including 35mm framelines, and just about every other feature the M3 had and then some, it was Canon’s most popular rangefinder of all time, with sales totals higher than every Nikon rangefinder combined.
So yes, the Canon P is basically a Leica M3 clone, with a few innovations to make the camera even easier to use for the everyday shooter. The rewind toggle is a knurled ring integrated with the shutter button. The frame counter is easy to read and automatically resets when the back of the camera is opened, and loading film is a breeze with the full-back film door. The rewind lever is cleverly hidden within the top-plate, lending to the aesthetically pleasing lines on this camera. Everything about this camera honestly seems like Leica was directly consulting for Canon on this one, and the best part? The Canon P is cheap! I mean, it’s not cheap, it’s a little pricey if we’re being completely logical here. But when compared to, what is seemingly, the Canon P’s closest competition, this camera is an incredible value!
So, if you’re pining after an M3 because of its beautiful design, simple functionality, and great compactness; you might consider this alternative. I know your wallet will thank me, and if you’re anything like me, I think you’ll fall in love with the Canon P just like I have.
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Current Fav Film Camera: Canon P
Current Fav Film Lens: Leica 100mm f/2.8 APO
Fav Digital Cam: Canon EOS R
Fav Digital Lens: Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS USM
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@linjicakonikon7666
@linjicakonikon7666 2 года назад
The Canon P was the economy stripped down model, aimed at the overseas(American) consumer. For an upgrade from the P, consider the top of the line Canon VT deluxe or VIT especially if you are left eyed.
@morreale94
@morreale94 3 года назад
Fell in love with your content, keep up the good work! I love the historic part !
@AlecLangton
@AlecLangton 3 года назад
La Table Ronde airsoft thank you! You guys are the inspo for all the research and hard work!
@JamieMPhoto
@JamieMPhoto 4 года назад
I really should have looked into this one sooner ... thanks for the heads up! Great rundown of it.
@AlecLangton
@AlecLangton 4 года назад
It's a personal favorite of mine. Thanks for the input!
@mattdayphoto
@mattdayphoto 4 года назад
Loved this.
@Lavi-Aemilia-Astori
@Lavi-Aemilia-Astori 3 года назад
*Yes*
@AlecLangton
@AlecLangton 3 года назад
Love you. 🖤
@Lavi-Aemilia-Astori
@Lavi-Aemilia-Astori 3 года назад
@@AlecLangton love you too
@linjicakonikon7666
@linjicakonikon7666 Год назад
Hey everybody! Matt Day loved this!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
@joncaradies3155
@joncaradies3155 2 года назад
Right on ! I've had a Canon 'P' for a number of years now (as well as Leica M3's) and the 'P' is just wonderful camera . I always thought that it was telling that when you read a lot of Leica posts on the net that they say 'Oh , you've got to get it CLA'd every couple of years ' while Canon 'P' posts just say ' Oh, just go out and shoot and enjoy ' .... Anywho , I didn't hear you mention one of its strongest selling points , The swing back ! ....... Great video ! Cheers ...... :D
@tobygrr4041
@tobygrr4041 4 года назад
Great video, subbed and looking forward to more!
@AlecLangton
@AlecLangton 4 года назад
Thanks for the sub, glad you're enjoying the content!!
@linjicakonikon7666
@linjicakonikon7666 3 года назад
Wow, well done! Clear and accurate review.
@jlwilliams
@jlwilliams 4 года назад
The M3 has a nicer range/viewfinder (projected instead of reflected frameline, sharp-edged rangefinder patch) but everything else is better on the P. One fave feature: the shutter curtains are epoxy-coated stainless steel, while on the M they are rubber-coated cloth. Yes, the Canon curtains can get unsightly dents/wrinkles (which almost never affect its operation) but sunlight won't burn a pinhole through it, which can and does happen on all film Ms... and boy is that expensive to fix! Another bonus: unlike any Leica, the P's viewfinder is 100% life size, which means you can keep both eyes open while using it... it's like you're not looking through a camera at all, except the rangefinder patch and frame lines are just magically floating in your vision to show you what will be in the picture. QUESTION: The black paint job on your P looks really nice... did it come to you that way, or did you have it painted, and if so by whom?
@nicholasbello4897
@nicholasbello4897 3 года назад
Check out shueido camera, he repaints rangefinders, but they are usually over $400.
@AlecLangton
@AlecLangton 3 года назад
Agreed, agreed, and agreed! As for the paint job, it is a repaint. I’ll find the link to the gentlemen who performed it on this camera and send it your way, as the quality is superb!
@robertbosson5223
@robertbosson5223 2 года назад
Original black paint P's are unicorns, if you came across one I think you'd know! lol
@eddyjcreative100
@eddyjcreative100 3 года назад
Great video....and explanation on both cameras ..Alec
@tuisitala9068
@tuisitala9068 4 года назад
I looked at an M3 in an auction. It did not feel right. I bought my Canon P last year and this feels just great.
@AlecLangton
@AlecLangton 3 года назад
Tuisitala love both, but I’m glad you found the right fit!
@tuisitala9068
@tuisitala9068 3 года назад
@@AlecLangton I found another M3 in an auction. This was near mint and I bought it. It is now my favourite and main camera along with my 111g but the P is still great and would highly recommend it to anyone. It is slightly easier to load and re-wind and of course has the 35mm frame line.
@kennethgray5447
@kennethgray5447 3 года назад
Just bought a repainted one in Mint condition w/ CLA.. Thanks, Alec!
@ryandewerff
@ryandewerff 2 года назад
The P’s closest competition is probably the M2, not the M3 simply because of its viewfinder specs and 35mm framelines. If you like the P, I highly recommended the Canon VI-L which is the more “pro” version with selectable framelines, and the ability to mount secondary viewfinders with parallax correction.
@AlecLangton
@AlecLangton 2 года назад
This is great information, thank you so much for sharing!
@VariTimo
@VariTimo 3 года назад
I‘m having real trouble focusing with a film SLR, especially when I have to focus at a wide-ish apertures and the subject is moving, like I often do on the streets. Using auto focus feels very detached from the photography process and it can miss more than I’d like. When I’m shooting with a rangefinder, especially with my M5 I have dials for every setting I need. I can use all of them through muscle memory. And I can actually reliably focus moving subjects. The reason I shoot rangefinders and I’ll never be able to go away is that I’m completely responsible if the image gets messed up. I am taking the picture not the camera. This doesn’t go so much for the M6 since it’s finder flare is so bad, so often that it’s sometimes not really my fault when something isn’t in focus. Just because I haven’t said it enough, but I really prefer the M5. It’s build as the successor to the M3 so it’s still incredibly well made and the purest metered rangefinder experience. Another reason why I shoot rangefinders is that there’s almost no vibration from the shutter and no mirror, so I can handhold really long shutter speeds.
@KhunTui-jl5nj
@KhunTui-jl5nj Месяц назад
Hello. I would like some advice. I can't decide between VL and P which one should I choose. What are the advantages and disadvantages of each one? And the 50mm chrome lens, which one should I choose, 1.2 or 1.4?
@KhunTui-jl5nj
@KhunTui-jl5nj Месяц назад
Hello. I would like to ask for your advice. Right now I'm interested in the Canon VI and P. I can't decide since they're both beautiful. Which one should I choose? And is there a 50 mm 1.4 chrome lens and is it expensive? Or is there any substitute?
@mp3remix171
@mp3remix171 3 года назад
Wow your specific model looks soooo good.... I might be able to buy a m2 for the price of the CLA/service from my local photoclub where just me and my friend are really into film and it has been standing in a glass case for the last 20 years hehe
@UlyssesGrantParm
@UlyssesGrantParm 4 года назад
Good stuff! I would also be interested to see some images. Subbed!
@AlecLangton
@AlecLangton 4 года назад
Appreciate it! Working on a little photo trip video with this guy right now. Cheers!
@navithshariff750
@navithshariff750 4 года назад
I own one and totally in love with it ❤️
@jekeyes
@jekeyes 2 года назад
Surprised you didn't mention lens slap. I have a couple of SLRs I don't use much because the mirror slapping up shakes it enough to mess up the image. Great video, Thank you.
@AlecLangton
@AlecLangton 2 года назад
Good point! I'm still experiencing all of these issues in real time, I think I'll try to do an update video of sorts in the future :)
@juancampos1164
@juancampos1164 2 года назад
Nice review on the mechanics, actually the reason (my take) is the technology didn’t die for the rangefinder, due to the makers. Same reason the mechanical watch is preferred over the quartz, both are amazing, but who makes it counts.
@edinburghtumuran916
@edinburghtumuran916 2 года назад
What a cool comparison! Canon P the a great alternative to the Lieca M3 sysem! I am buying you on that one, buddy! Cool!
@GaIvatr0n
@GaIvatr0n 3 года назад
vibessss. subbed
@certs743
@certs743 3 года назад
Another reason to use a rangefinder is there is no reflex mirror so no mirror slap which can give you camera shake especially with medium format cameras. Personally I find the rangefinder easier to focus with bad eye sight too. Then again my Zorki and FED rangefinders have built in diopters so no need for my glasses.
@randallstewart1224
@randallstewart1224 6 месяцев назад
The 35mm SLR goes back to the mid-1930s (Exakta), almost as far as the Leica and Contax. However, the modern styled 35mm SLR with interchangeable lenses didn't start getting popular until the latter 1950s. Some of the reasons for such delay may be those mentioned in the video, but the primary reason was a matter of lens design. Until the late 1950s, wide angle lenses used optical designs which required that they be set close to the film plane, and therefore, they would infer with the operation of the reflex mirror in a SLR. This was overcome when a completely new lens design (retrofocus) was developed to allow the rear element of a wide angle lens to sit sufficiently far from the film to allow a swinging mirror to operate. The earliest of such lenses were relatively poor optically, which is why Contax, Leica, Nikon and Canon all made only RF bodies until the late 1950s. The pioneers of SLR development were the lesser companies, such as the East German camera industry (several brands from one organization), then Pentax (Ashai) and Miranda in Japan.
@hoggif
@hoggif 3 месяца назад
What a lovely question. Why do people still shoot rangefinders. I've shot a lot of digital recent years and having a display type viewfinder shows you all technical data, what the photo is like and whatnot. Yet I just love focusing with a viewfinder. Perhaps some day I can justify a digital one. So, old Leica gear or my trysty Bessa R2A it is. Film costs a lot nowadays but it makes me think more and reject the worst shots before pressing the shutter. More is not always better.
@bicivelo
@bicivelo Год назад
Great video. I love my P! Btw P stands for “popular” - it’s like canon knew it would be big 😊
@myoung48281
@myoung48281 4 года назад
Rangefinders are the bee's knees. Love your narrative, nice delivery . A couple points on the viewing window: there is air around the capture image area that allows you to see what is coming into the frame, and leaving. Also the other eye integrates well with the image taking experience because you are using that eye to see what is happening beyond the camera body.
@AlecLangton
@AlecLangton 4 года назад
Love the input! I think this thought process deserves a video of its own... mind if I? 😂
@myoung48281
@myoung48281 4 года назад
@@AlecLangton of course, you have an awesome style, would love to watch that one.
@TemerityFilms
@TemerityFilms 3 года назад
Is yours repainted or an original black? Can’t find an original anywhere and curious on how durable the paint is on repainted
@AlecLangton
@AlecLangton 3 года назад
Jonah Villegas mine is repainted! I too could not find an original in good condition like this one anywhere. Waited months and finally pulled the trigger on the repaint-I must say, the durability has surpassed all of my expectations! I’m absurdly rough on my cameras... the repaint has held up with very minimal signs of wear after months of daily use.
@AaronAnalog1
@AaronAnalog1 2 года назад
@@AlecLangton who/where was it repainted?
@jsshayes1
@jsshayes1 4 года назад
M3 can accept better lenses than the P as well as any lens that came on the Canon P. I like the Canons as well (the Canon 7 is fantastic) and certainly nothing wrong at all in shooting them but the M3 is a higher quality camera. Why pick one? I shoot & like the both.
@xxGravyBabyxx
@xxGravyBabyxx 4 года назад
While you can you use any m mount lens on a leica, why do photographers need more than 1 or 2 lens on a compact camera? A 50mm and 35mm are enough for 80% of shooters. No need for an abundant of glasses. I might pick up a canon p restored and CLA for $500 👏
@AlecLangton
@AlecLangton 3 года назад
Totally see your point. As for myself, and my videos will show, I haven’t chosen between Leica and canon at all 😅 I love to shoot it all. But sometimes economical decisions must be made.
@evopanop
@evopanop 3 года назад
@@xxGravyBabyxx I completely agree. I have a Canon P as well, with the Canon LTM 50/1.4, 35/2.0, and the 100/2.0. All seem to be very fantastic, sturdy, and reliable lenses so far.
@MrPhotographerDude
@MrPhotographerDude 2 года назад
Rangefinder have less internal vibration and don’t have mirror flop which allows one to shoot the rangefinder at much slower speeds handheld. Also they are much quieter than a slr.
@ivan9066
@ivan9066 4 года назад
Strange,I've never even heard of the Cannon P. But if you want a really cheap camera that will be tough enough to blugen a man to his death- you'd want a Kiev 4.
@Biosynchro
@Biosynchro 2 года назад
A couple of minor disagreements. I think the Leica's VF is superior for two reasons: it is as close to the corner as physically possible; and the frame lines are illuminated. The Canon P is arguably better value than the Bessa R, too, although I haven't used a Bessa really. On paper it does have some advantages, although the light meter is neither here nor there for me.
@AlecLangton
@AlecLangton 2 года назад
Thanks for your input! Always happy to hear thoughts from others with more experience. My goal is just to start the conversation if I can :)
@Skux720
@Skux720 2 года назад
"Why do people still shoot rangefinder cameras?" Because they look cool :)
@sifren2491
@sifren2491 3 года назад
1:11 Isn't it a little ironic to use the viewfinder of a mirrorless XT2 to talk about the mirrorbox/pentaprism reflex of an slr? Nice comparison!
@anta40
@anta40 2 года назад
Why do I stil shoot with rangefinder cameras? I believe I don't have a proper, objective reason, other than simply "because I want". Is rangefinder more compact than SLR? In general yes, but there are also really compact SLRs like Olympus OM-1 or Pentax ME, which fits easily in my jacket's pocket. How about silenceness? A bit, but in most of my daily situations, a silent camera like M3 vs loud one like Pentax 67 don't differ significantly on the street. Most people simply ignore them. OK, perhaps I need to be in such situation where being silent is a must, like watching opera. BTW, if I'm on bigger budget range, definitely would pick the Leica. Not because it's made in German, but because it has access to more modern lenses. You can't afford the latest fancy 50 Summilux ASPH APO bla bla bla? No problem. Zeiss and Voigt provide one which is more affordable. On the other side, beside Voigt, there's no modern screw mount lenses for Canon P. You are practically stuck with old lenses, which is not necessarily a bad thing, though. Lenses are just tools, eventually in the end it depends on your artistic taste.
@gaarakabuto1
@gaarakabuto1 3 года назад
The arguement of blackout is all about capturing moments on movement.I shoot both slr and rangefinders (who doesn't,to be fair) and if i want to capture a moving car or a hand movement,in slr i should double check that i caught by taking multiple shots,in rangefinder i now what i've shot.Abother thing about blackouts is long exposures.In long exposures of a minute or so you have no vision of what you're shooting in slr.
@Ham-yj1od
@Ham-yj1od 2 месяца назад
The black paint of Canon P is no longer cheaper than M3 though, what a bummer
@noeggi
@noeggi 4 года назад
Was it cold?
@AlecLangton
@AlecLangton 3 года назад
Bruno always. Why pay for heat when I already have hoodies?
@alexcarrillo5510
@alexcarrillo5510 3 года назад
Love the video, and you are Right seeing the Canon P on Ebay is affordable. As when I got my First true RF which it was not Leica but a Yashica YF that look like a M3 as I shot I think maybe 80rolls, and also took with me to Japan as I had my 2nd look photo shooters looking at me, and one of them at a Used Camera Store in Shinjuku want to buy it as I said no, as he told what I will pay you in US Dollars $$$$, But I said no as it is only a camera that shoots, and from the late 1958 - I know that Minolta did place a 35mm RF called the Minolta Sky as only one was built. I am happy in what I have both RF, and SLR, and yes that you shown in your video a Fuji XP1 model in happily I have it as I use Old Nikkor lenses as I am very happy to use them but I have my share of Rangefinder line as the following: Canon 7 Canon Vt Yashica YF 1958 (Leica M3 Clone) Olympus SP Olympus RC and my Babies Contax II, and III as I use Russian optics the Jupiter Line... Like the Zeiss very Sharp, I only use B/W Film, as have taken them to Japan, and have done street photo on them.... But very well inform video - Thank You... And I will see your videos too...
@AlecLangton
@AlecLangton 3 года назад
Alex Carrillo wow, thank you so much for your contribution to the conversation! You certainly have a bit more hands on experience that I’m looking to acquire!
@MarsKvaratskhelia
@MarsKvaratskhelia 3 года назад
But M3 has different lens mount
@pefren777
@pefren777 2 года назад
why people use film leica/canon rangefinders if there is relatively cheap nikon f100 that makes everything with film?
@user-cd8ri1mc6s
@user-cd8ri1mc6s 11 месяцев назад
F100 is too electronic, too automatic. A plasticky blob. Why not get an F3, a lot better camera?
@duffman9908
@duffman9908 3 года назад
I went with the Canon Model 7 instead. Throw a Jupiter on it and you can't beat it as a bootleg Leica
@AlecLangton
@AlecLangton 3 года назад
GameMisconduct video definitely coming soon on the Model 7, I can’t disagree.
@Gabez82
@Gabez82 4 года назад
Sure is a beauty. Sleek black.
@BennyCFD
@BennyCFD Год назад
Sense all the body does is to hold the lens and film. If using a Leica lens with the Canon P and a Leica M3 or M6 could you really tell and difference. Everything else being equal.
@sangyonwon219
@sangyonwon219 3 года назад
Shueido?
@someguycold8566
@someguycold8566 4 года назад
It really is a nice camera
@terrywbreedlove
@terrywbreedlove 2 года назад
The Leica and Nikon S were higher end cameras. Even today you will pay three times or more for a Nikon S. The Canon P was the consumer grade camera. Well built and fantastic.
@iamrichlol
@iamrichlol 2 года назад
these have shot up massively in cost. I'd love one but theres no way im paying 1000 AUD for a body and lens
@atroche1978
@atroche1978 3 года назад
I love my Canonet QL17
@hashimshata
@hashimshata 4 года назад
There is the fun factor... The fiddling and sense of control
@David-hk3ly
@David-hk3ly Год назад
If they would just get rid of the extra framelines and just use the whole frame for a 50mm lens, it would be wonderful. The camera simply is indestructible.
@anarafol5295
@anarafol5295 4 года назад
More review and photos taken from a canon p
@AlecLangton
@AlecLangton 4 года назад
Will oblige!
@jllanesphoto
@jllanesphoto Год назад
Nice video. Have both. Canon easier to load.
@zealsoijun
@zealsoijun 3 года назад
Hella Kurt Cobain vibes bro
@AlecLangton
@AlecLangton 3 года назад
I’ll take it. Thx 🖤
@error4159
@error4159 3 года назад
I don't know Kurt Cobain was into photography
@s_t_r_a_y_e_d
@s_t_r_a_y_e_d 6 месяцев назад
purely by aesthetics, the Canon P is as good looking if not better looking than the Leica M6
@dizzybuizzy9347
@dizzybuizzy9347 3 года назад
It's easy to reproduce something, when someone else did all the thinking for you!
@AlecLangton
@AlecLangton 3 года назад
Agreed? Confused, but in agreeance with your statement...
@dizzybuizzy9347
@dizzybuizzy9347 3 года назад
@@AlecLangton At the time Leica and Zeiss were the main German Camera manufacturers, and took the Time and Effort to Design, and Engineer their Cameras. All the Japanese, and the Russians had to do is Copy their Designs, which didn't take much thinking except taking things apart, and make exact Copies. How hard is that? It took the Japanese 50 years to come up with their own stuff.
@jeff6660
@jeff6660 8 месяцев назад
In hands of an artist a Holga can produce more valuable work than a Leica or any other camera.
@dflf
@dflf 2 года назад
2022 here and your black bodied Canon P costs a hella lot more these days
@MarttiSuomivuori
@MarttiSuomivuori 4 года назад
It does not have the Red Dot.
@AlecLangton
@AlecLangton 3 года назад
Martti Suomivuori shhhhh..... nobody else noticed yet...
@OZ1OS
@OZ1OS 3 года назад
A brief Comment- You’r talking- They´r NOT at all comparabel, when it comes to The Basics fundaments! To be a reliable Film camera of the best quality- That´s it... Period! 😂
@SnapJimmy
@SnapJimmy 3 года назад
These two cameras are incomparable.. M3 is much more significant in the history.
@BennyCFD
@BennyCFD Год назад
Yes the Leica has a significant, but in the final analysis 100 mixed photos taken by both cameras on a wall you would see very little different. So why would you pay 400% (4X) more.
@DustinGuy123
@DustinGuy123 2 года назад
Lol Canon copied Leica, they didn’t consult
@user-cd8ri1mc6s
@user-cd8ri1mc6s 11 месяцев назад
Then name me a Leica IIIf or IIIg with these features. Sorry, Leica never built a screw mount with these goodies. I
@benbunch4159
@benbunch4159 6 месяцев назад
Does the word "like" mean something to you?
@gb52
@gb52 2 года назад
yak , yak, yak ...
@AlecLangton
@AlecLangton 2 года назад
Thanks for the completely useless feedback! I noticed you don't have any uploads. Want to give it a shot and let me know how it goes for you?
@Walkslowlylooking
@Walkslowlylooking 6 месяцев назад
Silly premise. "Some maintain that rangefinders vs. SLRs." Who cares what your eyeball-hoping opinion is? This is RU-vid garbage.
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