Open your eyes fearnots "they did not noticed her" "they are not rude it's just a coincidence" "idols are humans" remember that wonyoung was attacked for just looking at jeongyeon 1. Yunjin turned her head to fix her hair the moment wonyoung turned back and then ignored 2. Sakura looked away when wonyoung looked that way 3. Kazuha turned away from her when wonyoung was looking at them (just because she was finding ive does not mean she did not wanted to interact look at her face) and as soon as wonyoung looked away kazuha turned to give a smirk 4. In 2nd clip yunjin looked at her it was not an accidental ignore she gave side eye and left 5. Eunchae the younger one who is younger than wonyoung stood there and stared at her face then proceeded to leave without bowing at her Now imagine if all this was done by wonyoung then you would not say that idols are humans too you would just post quotes by bangchan that juniors these days don't bow double face kpop fans are trying to turn wonyoung into the next jennie who was most hated idol😐 Do you want another jonghyun or sulli?
@@mirra01 nah , they need to mention them cuz those precious souls were ended their lifes cuz of these hates thats why op comment said do u want wy also end up like this
yall rlly think just coz wonyoung gets hate she gonna turn like sulli and jonghyun be fucking serious sulli and jonghyun had bigger things going on for them to end their life stop mentioning them
I’m honestly surprised that le sserafim isn’t getting hate for this, this seems exactly the behavior that dumb netizens that have nothing to do with there life look out for :/
Garam bowed to Wony many times, but cruelly someone slandered that Garam hated Wonyoung. Garam is angel. and who knows who the first clip of Wonyoung looks at? because she's facing backwards
@@hallooos7585 you dive people are even worse and toxic . To give justice to wonyoung you all people are ready to drag down le sserafim without their fault
I feel her pain. This happens with me all the time. I try my best to be the friendliest and kindest person but somehow they still hate me and i just don’t understand why
Lol sakura not ignore wonyoung, the one that ignore sakura is wonyoung. Try to see different angle.. ru-vid.comZ0vjL1opT4Q?feature=share ru-vid.comQi4GzsJjPK4?feature=share
@@sunghoonphobic people treat her dirty ,i used to hate her bcos for some sh*t editing of her being "rude" ,she do act cute(people hate it bcos it's not their culture), she's still a teenager ,she will grow mature one day and haters going to cry abt it
@@user-ul1yo3iw5r I js don’t know why ppl come at her. An actual pick me would do anything to win a man. Ppl js judge her way of eating and acting. Like leave her alone yal would do worse
To be the devil's advocate here all of these clips could be taken out of context and we honestly don't really know how these idols really feel about each other. To out right call them disrespectful is a bit of a stretch and its totally valid that if wonyoung did these actions she would be crucified. But we can't really cancel hate with more hate. Stop overanalyzing the smallest of actions and stream your faves music smh.
honestly? i agree with you, but this interaction lasted seconds for both wy and lessera members. they knew she was in front of them, and when she turned around both yunjin and zuha avoided her gaze and even side eyed her, if she can notice her juniors and immediately bow to them, they can too. im sorry but it's not over analyzing, it's right infront of your eyes
@@san1a0707 what I'm saying is none of them were luking at each other or ignoring like the video maker said, wonyoung didn't turn and look at them to expect a bow I'm sure she doesn't even case also I heard she was trying to find her members that's when she saw Sakura and briefly greeted her while luking for her members n Sakura greeted back .... I m just stating how the video maker is exactly doing the same thing which escalated wonyoung hate(fake videos/overly escalated and edited) wonyoung was victim of all this haters edited videos
@@emisuyt4875 i agree with you, but the angle really doesn't change anything since it doesn't cut anything either. it's literally an interaction that lasted seconds. they also have a few other interactions which all went according to flow, so hating on anyone based off one short video is baseless
Y'all will sit everyday to make a new female the evil one and the saga continues idc if won or LS are mean they're just musicians on my playlist it's not like we live together lol
The sad part is if another idol went back after forgetting to bow and bowed people would be like “omg so cute and so repectful!” But if wonyoung did that they would be like “oh she just wants to stand out from her group in front of men!” The double standard is just insane!
It is certainly interesting that haters will say Wonyoung is disrespectful and doesn’t do perfect 90 degree bow but when other females accidentally forget to bow or do a half bow no one says anything. There’s so much hate towards her. The fact she is so young and can keep her smile despite it all is truly strong of her.
@@Pham_0607 comeon, she always bows(it's been debunked) even if it's 15 degrees. 15 degrees is acceptable here in Korea and only people who aren't even Korean have something to say about the tradition.
@@Pham_0607 when did I do that? Also you are really not syaing anything. Wonyoung fans are not blaming other. Also, you all can blame wonyoung for silly reason which is not even correct when le serafim is being disrespectful toward her. Just say you hate wonyoung we can understand from your words.
@@wonyoung_for_everyoung_10 why are you taking an edited clip on RU-vid so seriously. Sakura and Wonyoung didn’t ignore each other. Wonyoung bowed to Sakura and Sakura clapped at her, with a smile. Sakura literally sees Wonyoung as her younger sister, these girls literally SHARED A ROOM WITH EACH OTHER, y’all fearnots and dives need to stop with the fighting
Please guys yunjin and eunchae bowed I would have supported y'all if the clips was true but these clips are not go to the original clips wonie bowed to Karina not Sakura eunchae and yunjin bowed to her and you don't know where Kazuha is looking
Wonyoung is literally one of the most hardworking idols in 4th gen.....Being an MC , a model for countless brand deals , being in a group whilst being a teenager is a lot.... And she normally doesn't do a 45 degree bow..... She just does a small head bow but sometimes the male mc also does that.....but the hate bandwagon is just targeted towards Wony..... Misogyny at its finest tbh....
Even other female idols get away with this behavior it's not just misogyny it's targeted hate towards wonyoung first it was hwasa then jennie now wonnie
@@sunnygirlll_2001 that and she’s very underweight (not just how she looks, she’s 5’8 and her official weight is less than 100 lbs, making her bmi in the underweight category) so if she bowed 90 degrees she would easily get light headed. have u ever gotten up to fast and felt like u we’re gonna faint? imagine working crazy hours for promotions etc. she must b so tired
No one is rude not sakura not kazuha not yujin not chaewon and not eunchae and wonyoung is such a sweet girl I don't know why people hate her but still you don't have the right to say le serafim is rude so please stop it your just trying to have beef with everyone so pls stop this nonsense 😔 😢
OMG I hate toxic fans so much...just let them live...if they suicide or something y'all say we failed to protect them..there no point saying it after what happened. And we don't know what's happening in their mind or their attention will be somewhere else so they forget to wish others it's not a big deal we all did this sometimes.
There is no correct way of bowing! Stop spreading misinformation. It's only true that the further you go down the more respectful it get. What wonyoung did was respectful.
I hate how everyone bashes wonyoung for literally breathing like whenever other idols do things nobody cares but when wonyoung does it they all start calling her a pick me (the baseball pitching)
if you're actually trying to stop hate then just stop trying to make people hate other idols because of one. hating idols should be stopped asap before everyone goes
Please pin I am korean. I hate how many non Koreans try to hate on her for this not knowing how bowing works the Korea. The way she is bowing is 100% acceptable and normal. Trust me when you go to Korea almost no one will bow that low. A full 90 degree bow is only required when talking to someone extremely important like the president, you guys need to calm down.
also there isnt a “proper” bow, a lot of koreans say its okay to just nod your head in the direction with maybe a slight bow. not bowing at all is disrespectful
@@Eunchaed i didnt say they didnt😭? edit: maybe have some reading comprehension or something because when did i ever insinuate they didnt bow, i said there isnt a proper bow and not bowing at all like not even a head nod is disrespectful :3
Ya'll should really go to listen to "You never know" by Blackpink to understand how Wonyoung felt all these years with all this hate! Ya'll don't even deserve to be called humans
Wonyoung doesn't deserve all of that hate, she is such a sweetheart, people would hate her for littlest things, even if she breathes, people will hate on her 🗿 we love you wony! ❤️
This video just make me realise if one person start to hate, other whould start to even if there is no reason for it! I'm really worry about loosing idols like wonyoung and jennie with the way we lose sulli...
I don't give you props for trying to constantly name a victim and villain, whether it be Wonyoung, LESSERAFIM, or anyone, especially when it comes down to the whole bowing problem, however it is true that no one bats an eye when it's someone else. They'll ignore the fact the other person didn't bow at Wonyoung and put all of their hatred into her. And no hate to indo fans, not all of you are like this, but I've noticed most Korean fans don't care because bowing is not necessary every second, the problem is pulled up by international fans and fans pretending to be Korean (a lot of them tend to be Indonesian fans, I'm sorry 😭😭). Bowing is a sign of respect and should be used in situations that call for it, however you don't need to snap your body in half 90° every time you pass by a person. In most cases where Wonyoung is called out for "disrespectful", she was either doing her job as MC, leaving the stage, winning an award (and in most of the time, she already bowed by nodding her head), or she just didn't see them and as stated before, you don't need to bow everytime you notice another person's presence.
She retracted her hand and her smile became dull when they all looked the other way I noticed ever since she debut in ive and gaining popularity many of her old friends have become envious of her they are no longer close and many idol give her silent treatment
Cozz they jealous of her big time 😭 I mean from the start I never hated her cozz she is beautiful and I don't see the reason why people hate her so much
I love that op said this because it’s so true it’s like when Ateez talked about meeting their youngers like KQ Fellaz 2 that some of them accidentally/purposefully talked to them casually not respectfully and they had to yell at them well remind them to speak to elders/seniors with respect yes they can be friends and they will be but they can’t go around talking so casually like that and now they talk respectfully to them, younger groups these days really aren’t treating their seniors with respect except what I’ve seen IVE, XG, New Jeans and Enhyphen just to name 4 4th gen groups are the most respectful to their seniors, but when it’s a group close to your age and debut near same time as you but still before you it’s some how ok to not be respectful and push them off, like if they act like this and get away with it the industry is showing def favoritism cause if early 3rd gen and technically very earlier 4th gen we’re like this they immediately would get in trouble and yelled at badly maybe even kicked out the group, and 2nd gen had to face threatening of their contracts, even with 4th gen now too they could risk a scandal and getting kicked out
Ateez were talking about another rookie group which already debuted, they were not talking about KQ fellaz 2 ( XIKERS), they haven't debuted yet. They are going to debut at the end of this month.🎉🎉
@notscary Yall don't even know what you're talking about lmao she can't do any of the things above bc none of the idols on the list did it in their debut era - she doesn't have as much influence as them yet. Also bringing Jeonyeong in this topic like she didn't gain weight bc of health problems is weird. Listen to the i am =/= doll once again and maybe you'll get what Yunjin's trying to say
I have a feeling there's a lot of unhealthy and toxic competition and rivalry between idols in general in kpop. Not related to this video, but you can't expect everyone to get along with everyone. That's just not possible.
WTF?? I'm baffled beyond words seeing this carefully constructed video. It's clear as a day that this is not the case with them and LESSERAFIM is nowhere near to "ignoring" or "disrespecting" Wonyoung. You people will put down anyone in the pretense of defending your faves. I hoped to find common sense in the comment section but no. And to find that this acc is an engene.
@@catsare... Who's "y'all"? is it me? If you're replying to my comment then let me tell you that I've got no problem with Wonyoung or other celebrities and that is why I can say all this. Yes it is apparent for everyone that she gets majority of the hate all the time but trying to gain sympathy for her by using the same cheap method that made her look bad is also not right. Not when the other party is completely innocent. That is my point and that is the truth idk bout the kind of excuse you're implying when the clip is nothing but a delusional narrative.
Yeah but this video is to show how people like you are so blatantly hypocritical. You did not say this for wonyoung, did u defend her? Also it's these people's fans who threw hate on her for this exact video. So this vid is showing a alt perspective of how you can change the narrative.
Two things people hate for a woman to be: #1. Skinny #2. Beautiful Doesn't matter the race, culture, age, how nice the woman is, how healthy she is, if she has an illness, if she is naturally beautiful and skinny or got that way from surgery. Women will always despise other women for those two traits. Period.
Nah cus why when an idol get hate y’all gotta bring other idols into it like just bc one of y’all favs are getting hate doesn’t mean you have to do bring someone else into it and y’all saying people need to stop hating wonyoung and yeah I agree but y’all basically saying that since lesserafim didn’t do it they should get hate to why only wonyoung should stop getting hated or not why do y’all want lesserafim to get hated like y’all reach so far to bring other people down to bring up y’all favs up and like I said wonyoung don’t deserve all the hate she gets it’s actually ridiculous how much people hate her but don’t think that you trying to get people to hate lesserafim too is gonna stop people from hating wonyoung any less or make you look better. I just don’t get how y’all think bringing up other groups mistakes are gonna change anything like just stop your yelling about how much wonyoung get hate put your hating on lesserafim rn that’s not matching up there’s always a time where an idol or a whole group forget to bow to another person a the end of the end it’s never that serious to hate on them and no I’m not just talking about wonyoung and lesserafim am saying in general. And it sound like I’m defending lesserafim and yes i am put I’m defending wonyoung too so.
People really don't know why she's hated? It is no mystery to me. She has been described as "once in a thousand years" because of her extraordinary, almost other-worldly beauty: tall, lean with gorgeous face. Youngest center of a girl group, rich, famous, member of a record setting kpop group, came from a privileged life, and she naturally carries herself like a real princess. Is it really a mystery why she gets hated but there are many, many, many more people that admire her.
"She didn't bow that much" At least she bowed people? I know it's culture for the more you bow the more respect you gave or whatever but she still bowed.
@@joywis_w totally agree male ones get love for mistake omg so cute mistake perfect mistake lol while girl idols do the same gurl don't want to be idol anymore gurl has no telent double standards.
Y’all I’m not a fear not or a dive but is this really our business? Their might be something behind the scenes that we don’t know so don’t make assumptions
@@annagreenwell2005 but that is what's happening.. they r not being called out and attacked for months on end like wonyoung does even when it's not true.. it's called the hybe privilege.. when the company's artists have that many followers u can get away with anything
I'm not saying this because I'm a fan but wonyoung is literally one of the kindest and most beautiful human in the world. She always smiles and she's so sweet and that's what people hate? Stop it.
@@Sandrinarhonda who said you have to bow down to Wonyoung existence haha... If all those fimmies actions were done by Wonyoung y'all will be like throwing nonstop hate on her, fck this double standard of kpop
FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE NOTICED! I have been waiting for someone to make a video like this, Wonyoung really doesn't deserve all this hate, some people are really bored, anyway stan IVE
@@kazsq What I wanted is for someone to make a video proving that Wonyoung is not mean and rude like everyone portrays her to be. The fact that in the video LE SSERAFIM seems like the rude ones is not right of course as I don't think it's their fault either. I am sorry if you misunderstood my comment
@heesyeon_ Le sserafim is a mean group itself, your comment proves that you will defend your favs no matter what shit they do 💀 Kazuha gave a nasty look at Wonyoung but you let that pass, if Wonyoung did that to that bitch Zuha you would be hating her like there's no tomorrow 💀💀💀
@@chrybell like they're any better, their entire fandom is full of ppl who is either there bc of their tiktok humour, bc they're from hybe or because of ex izone members
This isn’t defending! It’s only contributing to the toxicity of hate. You’re doing exactly what your upset with others for doing. What does that solve? None of us know what is really happening in any of these situations.
@@whoIwhosakura not ignore wonyoung, look at the full video sakura smile to wonyoung and take her hand. You guys wonyoung fan trying to make another grup look bad 💀
Wtf I hate these type of shorts always putting down members or groups like why , I don't know if this is joke or sarcasm but stop it . Woonyoung is who she is and Leseraffim is Leseraffim , celebrities are really brave and have patience because their some fans are really dramatic and obsessed
Fearnots, please don't create a war. Let them imagine what they wanna. All these dives can't defend their favs respectfully. These dives are literally dragging Lesserafim to defend wony. Can you tell me what was that "Miss Yunjin" for? Huh? Such a small coincidence of slight head movements and hand movements and yall are wayy to delulu
Don’t trust social media. Some idols look so innocent and friendly but when they off camera, they are just too arrogant and bad people. But if you see previous clips of Wonyoung off camera she treat her staff well and even pick up some trashes before leaving the stage. She is absolute angel, I was bit angry about she didn’t bow to her seniors but I think there is something going with idols. Don’t hate her, you know nothing about her. I don’t want something to happen to her like Garam. She was bullied by her classmates but her bullies did something or post something about her falsely but people believed it and now People ruined 16 year girl’s life. People are just monsters.
The bowing thing is fake and was made up by international fans. If your see no Korean is offended and those videos were edited (many people don't bow to her, and even a little nod is as respectful). So you don't need to be mad about that.
Yup, I have slowly stopped liking certain kpop idols because it’s obvious of what type of a person they are. I still have my favourites, they are angels and I will always be on their side.
Then why was no Korean offended? LE SSERAFIM did not even disrespect Wonyoung‚ stop fighting. As a Fearnot and a Dive‚ I am sick of you all hating on LE SSERAFIM.
And guys I just saw a vid abt Sakura clapping at that moment to wonyoung but then she stopped bcs she saw that wonyoung didn’t notice her. And knetizens captured them taking after that so stop putting them against eachother 💀
girlll if my hair is as styled gorgeously as wonyoung's i wouldn't even bother bowing at all like girll thesee locks are too precious for me to be giving yall a 90 degree bow💅💅💅
Jennie was their first target and now their second target is wonyoung so don't care cause nothing can change the fact that Jennie is Korea,s and global IT girl and wonyoung is IT girl of fourth gen so don't care!!!
@@fgkajfr2347_ no it's Jennie cause Jennie was named the global IT girl by the most famous magazine,s like V magazine but Lisa was never named by any magazine it just some lilies saying this !!!! (No hate to QUEEN LALISA though!!💛💛💛💛💛💛)
Finally someone who is right....When I always try to explain to others that wonyoung isn't rude they always point out to random moments.....why they do this to wony always?
@@dahyUnnie_07 ok i understand but aren't they also making le sserafim look villain?? And the fact that they put false allegations on le sserafim! I have cleared everything on my channel and my video..
I'm not a dive nor a lsf fan but what i know is dives have to fight with dives before fight with others because most of the wonyoung haters are dive. Most of them are gauel, liz, rei biased dives. They are hating wonyoung & making look her bad because they think that their favs don't get much lines because wy. I was a dive my self & i tried to protect wy from lots of dives who were biased other members of ive, then it was bit hard bcs those hates were getting bigger with their every comeback so i had to give up on it. But this is not a secret, even lots of other fandom know about it.
This is so true. So many dives hate wony for no reason and pull the whole group down. Including encouraging more people to hate ive, I'm convinced they are just antis in disguise
This.. the other day I saw vid of how much lines Liz got for their new song and I feel very bad for Liz. But then I went to read the comments and all the Liz stans were calling Wonyoung name and saying it’s all her fault (she didn’t even get the most lines or was given the decision to distribute them). One even said that the company is stupid for promoting a skeleton with a eating disorder and not real talent, bro what.
I’ve seen liz stans (yeah I’m sure that they are the token stans) protest that Liz got a few lines than wonyoung in Kitsch and said that the second line after first chorus should be given to Liz, not WY. And now the token stans protest AGAIN for the WY’s screentime yet she had the least lines😭😭😭
this is honestly stupid, it is just a normal award show, with all idols being respectful, these slow-mo interpretations make it sound like a whole kdrama lmao
wdym wony was looking at le sserafim? lol, she’s looking for her members. plus, sakura was tryna approach wony but she seems busy looking for ive’s members. how can you say greet someone when she herself wasn’t paying attention to you. and for the last vid, yunjin also bowed at wony, you can clearly see she bowed two times, left and right. did you even watched the full video? use your damn eyes. i’m a fan of ive and le sserafim btw
