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Swans are acutely very territorial animals very similar to Canadian Geese. They are very protective of their babies and could swim very quickly towards you.
I dont like swans or ducks for that matter, why do ducks deserve to live, they dont even do anything. One time I was chased by loads of ducks and it really scared me, the ducks even tried to bite me. When I was very young I was feeding a duck and it bit my hand, it really hurt, since then I have had a major hatred towards ducks. They cant even fly, and neither can penguins, but they dont try. Ducks dont understand how retarded they are. One time a few years ago I mentioned I didnt like ducks and that person laughed, I dont understand what is funny about that. It is a serious issue in my life. Anyway swans kinda piss me off too.
There is actually a neurological condition called musical anhedonia, which means that their brain is completely incapable of feeling any pleasure from music. Those poor souls.
@@joebowden4065 seriously though, even just looking at history of singles, there are infinite songs to love music for. Even let's say, them classical music.
Late reply but, i think you gotta have some sort of patience and understanding of the music to be able to sit down and listening to them. I like all of godspeed you stuff (comparing because of the length), but Swans is just whole different plane of music. I listen to to be kind for 5 times before fully able to grasp the enjoyment
He actually kinda did, he pulled out the "it's for not normies who are beyond formulaic pop music and accept an expansive music" card. I like Anthony but that sucks, there are obvious faults with the post-rock or experimental music that Swans makes and I like a lot of Swans
@@dr.aisaitl7439 IMHO he is actually kinda correct. Even a year ago I would never listen to a 10 min track or even an album as a whole, but then I discovered Deafheaven with tracks up to 12 mins, which looked insane for me at first, just as screaming, but I grew to love it. Then I found GYBE and first it was also hard to listen to 20 minutes at first, but now I can listen to a whole album and a 20 min track with no problem, just enjoying slowly progressing instruments. With swans, I tried to listen to them once or twice, but I am not quite there yet, and they do sound REALLY slow, but it doesn't mean it's bad. Not every piece of music has to be fast-paced or have a culmination. We are just really used to it. Our brain loves rules and it is so used to it it may be hard to comprehend something that doesn't obey rules. It doesn't mean it's bad, it's different
I mean, swans are pretty intense. I could probably take a duck in a fight, maybe a goose on a good day, but not a swan. Those things are violence machines. Definitely not boring, though.
@@Urtegurke reverse those scores and you have a based review, of mice and men was a boring read for me and I far prefer Steinbecks later work (grapes of wrath)
I actually had this one girl in my class who genuinely did not like listening music. Part of the class was about culture in music, and when the teacher acted what do we normally like to listen to, she said “i really don’t like any music at all.” . Everyone thought she just couldn’t find anything she likes yet, but she straight up just said, “i hate music”. She was the first person I’ve ever met to dislike music
I’ve met plenty of people who are indifferent to music (and art in general), but never anyone yet to actively dislike an entire medium of art. This might sound harsh, but that sounds like a legitimate neurological disorder rather than just a taste preference.
For the first 18 years of my life I thought I just didn't like music but I realized I just don't like popular music. Now most of my favorite songs and artists are probably known by less than 100 people in the world.
The trick to enjoying Swans' more repetitive songs is really getting into the vibe. It sounds corny, but there's usually a mindset you need to be in in order to allow yourself to fall into it. There's almost a trancelike element involved if you can get yourself there. If you can, it can definitely be an experience.
Will changing my listening habits just to mildly appreciate the 3 interesting minutes from a 12+ minute track from a 2 hour long album from One Fucking Band actually be worth it tho
@@nomihabo9752 depends on your disposition and taste. Works for me, though. You can also always put it on in the car. I process a lot of the music I listen to for the first time that way
@@nomihabo9752 it's not about the 3 minutes from the 12 minute track, it's about the build up, how it makes you feel right before and then after. It's literally "the friends you made along the way" meme in music form
4:55 you’d be surprised, my buddy got a new girlfriend that literally said she doesn’t care for music, besides maybe some country in the background. But to her it’s just noise. I played her Yeezus and she wasn’t even phased.
Brendan Peahl yeah I’ve known a few people who just aren’t really into music. Some people don’t even have “favorite albums” or bands. Which seems foreign to us but it definitely happens.
As one of Anthony's relatively newer fans, it's incredibly humbling to see how much people can talk in incredible detail about music. Like, I would've never thought about stuff like album covers, how the tracks blend into the each other, let alone the way genres molded or changed over the last few decades and how it's relevant in its respective context. I think it's a lot like gaming, tbh. Often times, my friends who are the least likely to play games, are the ones that enjoy it the least, because they end up feeling bad over the fact that they're inexperienced. Maybe your buddy's gf is the same way, not really comfortable with the fact that there's this huge world of music where people like Anthony can speak literal hours at a time about certain tracks, albums, genres etc... while she can't say much about it. That's just my theory, because I don't really believe anyone out there doesn't like music or can't understand it.
Hoob The Hobo hey man welcome to the fantano fanbase, you’re in a for a wild ride. But so for more context in the situation, when I first met her I asked her what kind of music she liked because it’s always my go-to question for new people, so I can get a sense of their style and personality and because I can talk about virtually anything music related. So when I asked her she was just like, I’m not really into music. And I responded with something like “really? There must be something you listen to”. And she said sometimes she listens to country radio but she doesn’t know any song names or artists. And it was really baffling, because people usually dig some music whether or not it’s very popular or well respected amongst music crowds. But this girl just couldn’t really give any opinion to any music I showed. And like I said, I played her Yeezus and specifically On Sight. And that’s such a weird ass song I thought she would say it was terrible, but she said “yeah it sounds like something you could work out to”. And she’s not wrong but, I mean when I show that song to anybody their heads split because of how jarring it was. Idk just a very interesting encounter I guess.
Brendan Peahl Some people don’t think about music when they hear it. It just bounces off their ears, so it’s hard for them to appreciate what they’re listening to. You could play them literally anything and unless it offends them, they just won’t react. I feel really bad for folks like that. They’re like the people who only see whatever blockbuster action or romcom garbage plays on TV in the middle of the day; art is just a commodity to them, not a statement.
great comment, but dropping the N word 15 times in it to make your metacommentary point to take the metaphorical high road was quite unnecessary and tasteless, in my personal opinion. Have a nice day. Light to a strong 4 on this comment.
Fun fact: David Bowie was one of the first artists to put their music on the Internet, as most believed the internet was a fad that would die out. He thought it was going to be extremely important to keep him relevant in the future.
4:50 I used to have a friend in high school that didn't like music in general. He just wasn't fussed by anything. Although after trying to find something he vaguely liked he admitted to enjoying a Eric Clapton song, which one he couldnt say haha
used to not like music either, then saw marilyn manson in bowling for columbine, and after liking that for a while got introduced to a variety of metal by classmates
I did once work with a guy who said he didn't like music. I tried finding out what he listened and just straight up did not listen to music. It was a shock to me.
First time listening to Swans is like drinking your first coffee you don't understand it don't get why people like it, but after a few times you really start to like it
For the record, I've actually met a couple people who claim to dislike music as a whole, and seem to be entirely serious about their stance. I can't fathom what it must be like to be that kind of person, but they apparently exist. ?_?
I feel like a good portion of the people that find Swans boring don’t realize that the band has made music since 1982. I was certainly a fan of To Be kind and The Seer on first listen. But the first time I heard Filth I sorta knew I loved the band. And good or bad, they have at some point made an album that could be listenable for most music fans. Pretty sure I got my grandma to listen to Burning World at least once.
@tyler-xo3rb I think the point is more that they've been at it for a long time and their style has changed so much there's bound to be something any listener can enjoy but them having a lot of variety in their discography wasn't properly conveyed. To go along with the point, compare Filth to Children of God to Soundtracks for the Blind (which is a stylistically varied album all on its own) to their post-revival albums and there's definitely some similarities but they've also covered a lot of ground stylistically. If you don't like their post-reunion stuff, try Children of God or White Light from the Mouth of Infinity, those are significantly more accessible and, while the songs are long by popular music standards (averaging 5+ minutes), they're still far shorter and easier to digest than their newer material.
I've actually met people who have said "I don't like music," or "I don't really care for music," and they almost always chalk it up to "being too lazy to remember artist names." It's a scary world we live in melon, a scary world
All the Death Grips members were in their 30s when Exmilitary was released (Except maybe Andy, who is younger than the rest but he doesn’t have a Wikipedia article) Edit according to Death Grips wiki Andy is like 9 years younger than Stefan
listened to most swans albums while I was in the jungle in Mexico as well as in the airport, and all of their albums are unique and amazing in their own right
sampling in a way that doesn’t just sound like a store bought loop is way more difficult than writing the music yourself with a MIDI keyboard. Chopping up a sample into various bits and then constructing them together into something new is not easy, and takes a lot of time to get good at
@@Kittel_ DOOM has some of the simplest, unchanged loops (some could say lazy). Red and gold, deep fried frendz and gas drawls are loops from reasonably famous tracks. The man truly didn’t give a fuck about using recognizable loops, evidenced by him asking prince Paul for the beat for hot guacamole. Not the best example of a producer who challenges themselves to flip samples in creative ways. Love his music, but compared to others, his production is raw and simple compared to many. That’s a big reason people like it.
In my opinion, early Green day when they were more rock oriented is where they shine. American Idiot and onwards was pretty much pure emo pop. And their most recent album was downright embarrassing. Good Greenday: Songs like Longview, Basket Case, Brain Stew, the song "American Idiot", good riddance Shitty Greenday: recent album, WMUWSE, Holiday, those uno dos tres albums
@@bigboineptune9567 Actually, the second half is a lot better than the first half. The best songs are Whatsername, Homecoming, Letterbomb, Wake Me Up When September Ends, pretty much everything in the end. Strong 9 to light 10/10.
I genuinely came to this video expecting and hoping for a 20 minute argument about swans, like, the animal. I'm not disappointed in the video we got instead, but I do still want to see some hot takes about the extent to which swans (and perhaps other similar birds, potentially including ducks and geese) are interesting or boring.
Colby S Depends what era and what album. For me, i love the extreme heaviness of their earlier work and the amazing drum grooves on their album filth. Personally, there is a large portion of their discography i’m not s fan of. i love the super brutal swans and very ambient soundtracks for the blind swans
Colby S they scratch an itch that few other artists can. Super slow-moving and slow-building music that takes some serious patience, but once you put some time into a Swans album or even a Swans song, there’s little music that is as epic or satisfying. The peaks and payoffs on some of their bigger songs are some of the most mind-blowing movements in rock history
Colby S Very little music I’ve heard (and I’ve heard s lot) manages to capture the same amount of emotional intensity, angst, and nihilistic atmospheres of many Swans records. It requires a bit of patience to get into admittedly (I didn’t find myself to enjoy TBK on my first listen all that much, but it’s in my top 10 favorite albums of all time now), but man does it PAY OFF if you let it grow on you. They have one of the most intriguing and consistent discographies too and without a doubt one of the best experimental rock outfits out there. Their live performances are something else too.
Anthony: “I don’t really think there’s a leg of the metal genre that I dislike it so much that it is totally unlistenable.” All Power Metal bands: still waiting for their albums to be reviewed on The Needle Drop.
My grandfather was a high school math teacher and he is the most left-brained person I’ve ever met. I learned from my uncle that he never enjoyed music in general. He didn’t hate it, he just never paid much attention to it or had any favorite artists. As a lover of music, I still have a hard time wrapping my head around that.
Swans are so hard to get into lol. Especially because of how they change their sound so significantly. From harsh industrial no wave all the way to 35 minute atmospheric music. That's such a broad spectrum.
I can get people not being into certain art forms, but really I think it has most to do with ignorance and being stubborn. I used to not think much about dancing or artwork, but through high school I tried to be more open to things and look for art I could like and I ended up actually becoming an artist myself😅, and I love dance now as well. Especially hip hop dancing.
Sadly I was one of those people that didn't like music because I grew up in an area where the only music I had ever heard was country and pop rock and I didn't even know there was anything else. Luckily in high school I discovered there was other genres of music. Man I wish the internet had existed when I was a kid lol.
My aunt said this. I was talking to her about David Bowie and LZ the great stuff from the 70s and she said she gradually stopped caring about music as she got older and that I would too eventually. She listens to political radio and watches cable news and that’s her life. That is the most depressing conversation of my life so far.
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Oldie by odd future is there best tracks and will most definitely be a classics, further more Odd Future will probably get more credit for the music and fashion trends they helped innovative when they are much old and this generation will be able to look back at them the way our parents look back at groups like NWA
The times when I might wonder what to expect from a Swans track is when I'm unsure as to where it's going to end. I've not felt their music is boring at all, it's actually quite exciting not knowing where the track is taking you as it keeps building momentum. I could imagine those longer song lengths might feel daunting but I wouldn't ever consider them boring.
When you said “after hearing decades of very formulaic popular music we love is for patterns in the music that was like” that made me just say wow out loud. I feel like you just opened up a third eye lol. I’ve never thought of that and honestly partially scares me because I see that in a lot of the older generation. I’m still young and don’t want to be confined to a genre when I get older. The artists I mostly enjoy are rush (from the 70s-2012), twenty one pilots, and a couple others that follow the formula of being catchy and somewhat generic but still bringing something brand new and at times a little experimental but I’m unable to get enjoyment from most songs from like you mentioned swans or death grips. I think subconsciously I like a steady drum beat with an intriguing instrumental but I want to break from that formula even if I don’t enjoy. I’m going to start listening to swans, death grips, and other artists like those who I can listen to more as an exercise than enjoyment.
I'm just confused by calling Rush generic because following the time signature changes in some of their songs is a nightmare and is not something most bands could pull off, just listen to Earthshine from Vapor Trails
@quinnholleman1547 I wrote this years ago. I don’t think Rush in general is generic. Rush is one of my all time favorites. I think what I was thinking about when I wrote it was a lot of the music that came out after moving pictures started traveling into more generic territory and all though many amazing songs are found through out like losing it, heading flight, marathon, etc but a lot of generic music came from them as well like prime mover, dog years, the larger bowl, etc.
@leftsideupfan5489 That makes a lot more sense and I can definitely agree. I love a lot of their later stuff (I like the heavier sound and I grew up listening to it) and while they do have some standouts (the entirety of Counterparts for me), they also had some duds (most of Test for Echo)
Grew up in a Muslim family. My mom and dad claim not to listen to music at all, but my mom does have a song she used to play a lot when she cleaned the house when I was younger. I still listen to that jawn occasionally for nostalgia. I do catch her listening to some Senegalese music every now and again. My dad on the other hand: 0% interest in music and it baffles me. Like *H O W T H O*
I think your take on metal and the fanbase is spot on. It's a vast and varied genre with so much scope for creativity and new directions but is restrained by a fanbase that don't want something new. I still love the genre though, but it's odd when I speak to a metal head and they aren't really sure of the new directions of the genre they almost exclusively listen to.
I didn't get into music until the summer going into my first year of high school. Prior to that I was a kid trying to get into major league baseball while trying to appease the bullies on all my baseball teams. I was only aware of the big Beatles songs and other classic rock radio hits. My friend gave me a lil bow wow CD in elementary school and I pretended to like it. But I remember kids listening to fall out boy and good Charlotte, etc. In middle school and elementary school. Now im 24 and ive been drumming since 2009, my first year in high school.
I’ll tell you, I’ve found people who hate music. They only listened to AM Radio while driving before podcasts were available. They don’t even get any of those emotional moments in movies from the musical queues and if the script/acting isn’t good they can’t figure out the emotions they’re supposed to be feeling.
I am fine with super long songs but you gotta have something to keep me interested. If you are just playing the same chord progression for the whole time without much changing I will be bored.
@@katoffeevhs9798 Coming from someone who's favourite album of all time is Skinny Fists, are Filth and Holy Money really Godspeed Clones to you? The No Wave stuff and the goth stuff? Your statement becomes more stupid when you consider that Swans are like 12 years older that Godspeed and already had a cult following and released multiple albums
To the point about counter-culture, I want to second what you said. I also want to add that the availability and ability to express new artistic ideas may make some people desensitized to the edginess of an artist's ideas; however, I believe it also allows people to more objectively look at these ideas because they aren't too busy gawking at them.
I’ve met people who don’t like music. I asked this girl I had just met what kind of music she liked and she said she didn’t listen to music. I thought she was joking, but she said she didn’t understand the need for it or the point. I never spoke to her again. 🤷🏻♂️
the thing with bands like swans is it's more about the atmosphere created by the sounds and the feeling it invokes, so i tend to just take in every moment of every swans song. i feel like that's what you're supposed to do with that kind of music, just sit back and experience the sounds, the long and repetitive songs are long and repetitive for a reason
The whole "can improve later" thing makes me feel alot better as someone who is 20 and still studying music in uni and having made no progress in becoming successful :'3
Actually, I specifically remember when you went through your scoring averages for music genres. On average, you scored metal music higher than any other genre. The reason for this, you said, was that people didn’t really request metal reviews, so most of your metal reviews were artists you yourself decided to cover with little to no prompting from fans.
I went on a date once and she said she didn’t like music. I didn’t understand what she meant, but she told me that she generally finds it overwhelming and off-putting. She said she’s never put on music herself and doesn’t know of any songs she likes. There was no second date
My English teacher asked everyone in the class what their favorite album was and there were maybe like 10 kids that said they did not like music in general. I'm also a freshmen at an all boys school so a lot of my classmates hate everything, but still. I was shocked that so many people don't like any music
4:31 I was one of said “ugh I hate music” people in my ugly middle school phase of my life (so like a few years ago) so I totally agree with that comment, and I found music I love and grew as a person from it.
