Let's be Honest. You Just Hate Autistic Traits. 

UTERUS EARRINGS??? 😟

Do you sell bathtub water?

@@silly_dia 😂Might make sense in a minute

I hope you see my other comment. I’d like to know your response

I would Love to See a day or a week in my life vlog style video 🙂❤️

My paternal side of the family always tried to infantalize my brother "He doesn't know any better" when he was younger and then would bully me when I stood up for my brother cause they were looking down on him. Both my brother and I are Autistic

Yep, what you are describing is the problem version: someone infantilising someone else, judging them to be incapable due to behaviors that might accompany cognitive limitations but do not define it. Loving plushies or joyful summing, for instance, might look like a child’s behavior, but it is not an actual indicator of capacity for intellectual functioning. It’s associative. I’m terrible at joyful behaviors, but this doesn’t mean I fit the stereotype of the grim autistic genius. It means I’m generally depressive. The other way “infantilising” gets invoked is when people complain that, by exhibiting certain behaviors, an autistic individual is feeding other people’s stereotypes. But the onus should never be on the person exhibiting the behavior. Yes, it may reinforce stereotypes in some people’s minds, but the problem there is not the autistic person’s behavior, it’s the dynamic I describe above - the person holding the stereotype is the one that needs to make cognitive adjustments. Trying to refute stereotypes by making sure no one ever exhibits them is absolutely backwards. It gives the stereotype more power, not less.

My theory is that they’ve internalized the notion that childlike things are shameful and they have to hide their own traits at all costs, so they resent that other people have the freedom to indulge them openly and be celebrated for it.

LITERALLY! THEY'RE the ones infantilising autism! It's crude projection!

I hate that like my brother in Christ the self Infantalizarion is The Trait of The Disorder. That's the Point. Can't bulive people think your faking a disorder by having a disorder.

This is so real. I have an invisible disability on top of having ADHD (no diagnosed autism but I love the channel lol and many things I can relate to by virtue of having ADHD) and the amount of times people would tell me I'm not "really disabled" only to see me in a massive flare up and go "you look sick..." is astounding! Like no shit I look sick, I'M ILL.

i see it so often and it's frustrating. someone can talk about how autism doesn't need to be cured (which it doesn't, even if it were physically possible to do, it's not a disease to be cured) or talk about how they like themselves how they are and 10 people will come rushing out of the woodwork like "well i HATE being autistic, i HATE my life, i want to be cured!!" which...that's sad, but that's not the majority of people and shouldn't be treated like the standard. it might be rude but it literally is a them problem and not anyone else's, not everyone needs to be miserable just because they are.

i often am miserable. people don’tvwant to hear about it. 😂 they don’tvlike being gorced to accept you as you are

And then when people are in fact miserable they will still claim it's all too stereotypical and fake.

Yeah, I am miserable, but I do not like to show it and that's because I mask to be accepted. People in general don't wanna hear about your misery anyway.

Me too(I could get my autism back if I get vaccinated) Oh yeah I got two vaccinations earlier too, triple autism 😼

My skin starts to quiver, my arms and legs start wiggling like noodles, and I can feel all the Tisms leaving my body.

@@BiggestBigBoy sounds like an exorcism tbh

An Autiscism. It can only be performed by an autistic priest, who was ordained by an autistic bishop.

@@solarichanlezgo i can get my tism back in a week

YES I agree so much. Fakeclaiming is straight up new form of bullying and it's ableistic as fuck

This shouldn't be a controversial opinion, you are correct

I literally see no problem with self-diagnosing??? Like self-diagnosing is how people start looking into an actual diagnosis, no?? It’s not even people claiming they have these conditions, from my understanding, it’s just that they suspect they might have them. I feel like it’s easy to resolve by offering them support until they get the actual diagnosis and move on instead of getting mad at them…

Honestly yes. It‘s like ‚transvestigating‘ but for neurodivergencies. Fakeclaiming is like this loophole for assholes: 1) bully someone for ND traits 2) claim they are not ND 3) no one can call you ableist if bullied person (according to you) doesn‘t have a disability 4) profit I also HATE how I feel like this policing is making us regress in terms of diagnosing marginalised groups like women and BIPOC. Also reminds me of the whole issue with respectability politics.

Hard agreed, as far as I know I am diagnosed with Asperger's, but all of the stuff about "People claiming they are Autistic to be quirky or smth" certainly doesn't make my Impostor Syndrome any better 💀

"everyones autistic nowadays" has always been so insane to me. if everyone was autistic then we wouldnt be getting bullied for it lmao

​@@thehorriblesnifflerif sooooo many people were autistic, there would be no such thing as the phrase "everyone's autistic these days" because naturally it would be viewed as normal.

😬 I’m sorry!

that's WILD 💀

Bruh? That- All I can say is just.. bruh.

There are some very unprofessional therapists out there. It's hard to weed them out if you don't really know what to look for.

@@imautisticnowwhat Oh you don't need to apologize! Some people are just cringe. Like that psychologist! She was cringe

erm, that's not how braking a wrist looks like, you're just faking it for attention

@@yoyo777 "probably self-diagnosed, I bet he just bought that cast off tiktok shop"

"You're faking tour broken wrist!.. alsow people with broken wrists are cringe lol 😂"

Self diagnosed!!! Stop bending your arm in the middle of a long bone like that, it's WEIRD. You're attention seeking and taking services away from people with REAL broken bones.

“well when I broke my wrist my experience was different so you’re probably faking it”

for me personally i learned to lean into the autism and keep things jovial. if i dont know how to respond to a question i legit just start talking about food, animals, or air planes, or ask whoever i'm talking to about any of those subjects. a lot of people actually enjoy the suddenness of the exchange.

not true, we a re social different, not awkward. i communicate with my peers on the spectrum perfectly fine. thats like saying a neurotypical person is socially awkward cause they dont get along well with an autistic.

Exactly. It's the whole conversation of: "Correlation is not causation". Just because they are related, does not mean one causes the other. In this case, just because autistic people or people with autism can be and generally are socially awkward, does not mean that being socially awkward makes you autistic.

Me, this defines me a lot! I have trouble starting conversations that don't have something to do with my interestsTwT

@@laraprisma6381 example: me and my bioyfriend can talk about metal for hours or me and my bestie about kpop but anything i dont cae about will be boring. i dont generally like most movies but if its one i like ( like deadpool or something ) i will yap for a LONG time

I TOTALLY RELATE TO THIS! I have autism, adhd a few learning disabilities and leg issues. I can't count how many times people have said that I'm faking because you apparently can only have one disorder!? I've even been told that I can't have all these things and be gay and trans!?!??! Like what does that have to do with anything?!

@@AKASunWukong fr. as if living with these conditions isn’t hard enough already

People get so weird about DID, especially. I know someone who is able to talk with their alters and they figured out a way to co-exist and work together, and someone said "your friend doesn't have DID" because they're able to talk and stuff

That’s crazy. My mom is on the spectrum and has several tattoos and piercings and is considering more.

Ironic because I usually hear that autistic people tend to want to blend in less because they tend to care less about what their peers think or are doing

That reminds me of a psychologist appointment I had where I was talking about how I have REALLY bad task initiation and she eventually said “just put it on your calendar and do it” Wow thanks Ms. Mam for showing me how blessed and neurotypical you are. If I could just put it on my calendar and do it I wouldn’t be asking for medication from her every few months to function!

What they seem to want is for you to just present and tell everyone you're neurotypical. It's hard to tell what they want.

That's what narcissists act, they want to abuse and bully you and make you think you're the problem but in reality they are insecure inside and are always looking for an external emotional punching bag. Anyone that frequents any bullying community online shows that their true nature they just disguise their hatred as something that's justified and project their narcissism onto others calling others narcissists, it's really pathetic once you realize what these people's intentions truly are you shouldn't pay any Narcissist any attention because that's whay they are looking for negative or positive. Just look at any comment in any of these hateful communities are you can feel how unempathetic they are compared to any community that's just discussing their own disability, you always find the most kind hearted people that doesn't put anyone down like these hellhole of comment threads

This!!! This!!!! Omg I couldn’t have put it better than this!!! None of it makes any logical sense!!!! And why is it so many people think that all autistic individuals are the same? I’ve met so many people think that they know autism because they’ve met one person with autism and when I don’t present the same, they act like I’m just trying to be an issue because I’m not an exact clone of the person they know with autism

@@HelloHamburger i feel like they want ND people to not show themselves. Think about it - they shame every single aspect of being autistic in TitTok, like trying to squeeze neurodivergent people out of it by creating a false sense of "you will be judged by everyone no matter what" At least that's what I observed idk

It's literally people being the autism police and most of them are NT

so real. they say "you cant tell if youre autistic or not from one tiktok!!!" (which again is not how it works) but they think they can tell if someone ELSE is autistic from one tiktok????

Once I heard someone say "if self diagnosis isn't valid then neither is your peer undiagnosis" and I think that rings especially true with this lot.

I self-diagnosed myself with autism because my friend (who is autistic) shared a LOT of traits with me, and after a while it stopped feeling like "oh what a coincidence!" and more like "oh I should probably get that checked." Lo and behold, years later I get tested, and I am VERY MUCH autistic. Honestly never understood people who get mad about self-diagnosis; I know me better than anyone.

This comment right here!

@@flynnfarron exactly! Very often, self diagnosis is the first step to actually getting diagnosed.

It's bad when used against LGBTQ+ people and other races but it's definitely worse being used against neurodivergant people. Neurodivergant people have no control over what symptoms and traits we have, especially when it's those symptoms and traits that literally define the mental health issues. They've literally made a no win scenario, if you don't XYZ traits then you're lying but if you do...well you're still lying because it's too "stereotypical". It's most likely this sub was made with ableist silencing as it's only purpose. Literally "I don't like disabled people, especially happy ones so I'm going to try to bully them into silence so I can ignore them". Like when bigots complain about gay people "making it their whole personality", it's just a dog whistle for "be quiet so I don't have to acknowledge you.

Yup, the only stereotype that shouldn't be reinforced is that Autism can or should be cured.

It reminds me of the episode of The Good Doctor when Shaun has a meltdown because the head of the surgery department doesn't want him as a surgeon, and Shaun repeatedly screams "I AM A SURGEON" and some people were making fun of that scene and saying it wasn't a realistic portrayal. But then you have other autistic people saying, "Well, MY meltdowns look like that. Can we not make fun of people whose meltdowns look like that?" Every autistic person is different, and making fun of certain ways in which someone's autism manifests is not okay. I'm not the biggest supporter for the show because they work with autism speaks, but this is one thing I will defend about the character.

@@juliar2462 Yup, the only stereotype that shouldn't be reinforced is that it can or should be cured.

it's respectability politics at its finest

Literally. If I hadn't self-diagnosed with an autoimmune illness and asked my endo to check for it, I wouldn't have been diagnosed and I wouldn't be receiving any kind of treatment as of now (and this is after being dismissed for 2 years by other doctors)

further proving that the "no bullying" rule is for shits and giggles. (or they think the bullying is justified because they don't like you)

@@aghostbat reddit needs to take action. i’m sick of these gross subs being allowed to stay up

Redditor moment. In all seriousness I'm so sorry those assholes did that to you

@@crystalwhisp Yeah, it's kinda ridiculous. I just wish subreddits like these were left in the past (like they belong)

@@aghostbat Same

"dude!! you just shot him twelve times!!!" "relax it's all in his head"

@@yoyo777literally lol’ed

@@yoyo777 we have a comedian here

It’s been my impression that many or most people’s conception of the brain is this dark, empty space, filled with nothing but thoughts and feelings, all chosen freely. The idea that it is a biological organ that works differently in difference people, and that thoughts and feelings and sensory inputs/responses are generated by physiological processes - that just doesn’t compute. I think the concept that we are not completely in control of all our cognitive processes is especially threatening to people who are vaguely aware that they have no idea why they do a lot of what they do, and that some of it probably isn’t strictly rational.

​@@heidiburton929same 😂

Yes!! This is a great pushback to those Redditors.

The math aint mathing

Exactly!! And these people don't even do the research to realize that most of their so called "fakers" are literally clinically diagnosed.

In my experience, people tend to excoriate others for perceived behaviors that they recognize, and are perhaps even unhappy about, in themselves. I think others take the transactional approach that “everybody does it,” and maybe they don’t feel bad about doing it themselves, but they try to make sure others don’t get away with it. I think all that is basically the concept of projection.

Take Imane Khalif's call controversy. The detractors are ready to claim she's a man because the way she looks. When a feminine guy says he's a woman they are the first to cry.

i hate that people treat autism as if it's some horrible doom and gloom serious illness

​@@prageruwu69 i hate it when people mostly either treat it as the most destructive thing, or just a quircky type of behaviour. (sorry for my english).

​@X1cherryful same! Being autistic makes me really happy sometimes beacause it's a part of me ani love me but i alsow sometimes feel easily overwhelmed and tired and it makes things harder. Its not all black an white its a lot of colours and pretending things are either always happy or always sad is just limiting the things we live and feel

i think it's ironic because a lot of said minimizing of symptoms is done in a tongue and cheek deflection, so sarcasm is likely, it's just dark humor. Dark humor is extremely common with disability or marginalization and often isn't bleak gloom but absurd as well. That sub reddit is not the audience for that humor, it's clear they don't want to read it any other way but negative and it's clear they'll just move the goal post to hate on autistic people out of the guise of concern. They're notbhsppy unless we're the butt of the joke and if we self-deprecate and seem okay well they're gonna make us proper sad. It's just concern trolling either missing ironic jokes by accident or intention.... Jokes from people who more on average miss read sarcasm which i think is funny. But of course I would 😅

@@Acorn905 you described it very well!

exactly. i was dead set on the fact i was bipolar. nope, autism. doesnt mean it was faked, just the closest thing to what i have that i knew about

@@Swagsoviet06 and these misdiagnoses will ALSO happen in a medical setting. I feel like people posting in these threads vastly overestimate how black and white getting diagnosed is too. You misdiagnosed yourself? I have a family member who was misdiagnosed my medical professionals in the same way - because they too have their expertise. It happens. Giving each other grace and leeway and learning about what CAN be happening inside one's brain is the way to get everyone the support they need. Which is everyone's goal... Right?

Sorry dumb question but is 5 young for a horse?

@@harubynspades it's not dumb! He's actually 6 and I miss clicked when writing my comment but either way, he's at just the right age to be ridden! Horses start to get trained to be ridden typically at 3 years old. The 6yo I'm helping train is a sweetheart and I've only ever fallen off once and it was because he tripped and spooked. He learns extremely quickly but we never push him to do anything too advanced for him and slow introductions are necessary. He's currently doing very small jumps at the moment, as we're teaching him not to charge at them and go slowly. But in the future, he's definitely going to enjoy bigger jumps at the right speed For other horses, jumping might not be their strong suit and they might refuse to jump alot when training them from 4-6 years old etc. And might prefere other types of work :) So in conclusion, they're young, but old enough to be ridden and trained :) it's alot more difficult to ride young horses (equestrians call young horses, "green") than a 10-20 year old for sure. They're alot more easy going from personal experience but some can have alot of attitude lol. But typically the younger and less experienced they are, the more they just want to go fast, fast, and more fast ❤️

@Sunnys..grxvve I see! Thank you! Lovely explanation, honestly, I am not a horse type of person, but I know a lot about ungulates because why not lol and horses which not really artiodactyla are still technically ungulates. And I've only ridden a horse once, a Shetland when I was much younger. What breed is yours unless you don't know which is also fine.

@@harubynspades he's a black cob

i was 11 when i discovered it and got banned from the r/gachaclub server bc i thought everyone there was right abt everyone faking did and told ppl that on the server its been 3 years and i still feel fucking horrible abt it

True character isn't the absence of flaws. It's how you conduct yourself once you recognise those flaws, and the fact that you guys have recognised them, are remorseful, *and* willing to change says a lot about your strength of characters. Congratulations on that wonderful growth, I'm very happy for you and the people around you!

I kinda dislike how non-descriptive a lot of diagnosis are. The moment that you realise you are neurodivergent you'll see yourself in virtually every category under the sun

I was diagnosed last year and used to have that mindset of people faking disorders. Thankfully I've grown out that mindset and just let people be people. Unless they are blatantly lying or spreading misinformation

@@InsomniacFlaaffy right? it's much healthier to just take anecdotes as suggestions and move on than do everything in your power to dismiss it

What's the difference between a stereotype and archetype?

@@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ A stereotype is a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing. An archetype is a very typical example of a certain person or thing.

In common usage, I think the distinction is also that a stereotype in exclusionary: you must meet this one standard, and any deviation from it is invalid. This can be true even when there are multiple conflicting stereotypes in play. Typically people will either invoke their chosen stereotype of a person, or at least employ one stereotype at a time. Archetypes are more inclusionary -there can be multiple archetypes of autism, and fitting one and not another is perfectly valid. And theoretically, a person can not fit any one archetype perfectly, because they represent common presentations but are not absolute. One of the pitfalls neurodivergent people face is a that the DSM uses criteria which can be conflated with stereotypes. But for all its faults, the DSM still attempts to address individual variation with the range of behaviors that are required to receive a diagnosis: you need a certain number of traits from this category, not necessarily all of them, nor is the lack of one specific trait an absolute veto. This is where uninformed practitioners really put their foot in it, declaring that eye contact, of having friends, or asking how someone is constitutes an automatic veto all by itself. Even leaving aside the biological aspects of the spectrum, all humans are influenced by personality, experience and learned behaviors, and this must impact how one person expresses traits relative to another. And adults will be trickier that kids, because they’ve had more time to adopt a world view, coping strategies and other learned behaviors.

I'm sorry people behave like that. I have friends with allergies who are often dismissed too. It's scary.

If it isn't deadly, I'd go over anyways, have an allergic reaction (if it's like a rash or something like that), and looks at them and be like "does this look fake?" Of course, that's just me

My best friend is deaf. She wears hearing aids and her external ears are visibly abnormal. We went to middle and high school together and our teachers would ALWAYS tell her she was lying even though she literally wears hearing aids.

Oh my gosh. SAME! I am accused of faking it too. "I bet you'd never know if I didn't tell you?" "You don't seem that bad." "I am sure you can come around for half a day and be fine" I took 14 antihistamines in 24hrs just to enable me to stay at a friend's house because she pressured me to stay. Really pressured me. I did not realise that you could OD on antihistamines. 😞 "It ain't easy being wheezy." I usually only notice how wheezy I am when I get out into the frsh air to be fair. EDIT: Oh the old "my friend who is allergic to fur still comes around" 😞

Asthma sucks big time. I have asthma (diagnosed at 21 after severe bronchitis infection) and I’m allergic to cats and dogs (itchy watery eyes, itchy rashes when they lick me or when I cuddle them, they have set off my asthma too etc) I have 2 long haired cats and a short haired dog. (I wear my sunflower lanyard because of asthma cause that is what disables me the most, not so much my adhd, autistic traits or tbi) usually have my cats groomed every 3 months as well as I have a super strong vacuum (Sebo, sensitive choice approved and robot vacuum and a couple expensive cat brushes as well as sensitive choice pet bedding, petlab laundry detergent, power mop, pet carpet cleaner, spot cleaner and detergent etc)I use my asthma preventer inhaler every morning and night as directed. I also have emergency corticosteroids for when it gets really bad just incase also I have an asthma action plan as one would. I’ve been allergic to cats ever since I had a cat I was 12-13 years old. Have always had cats and dogs. I know how much inflammation to my body and lungs having pets cause. These guys will be the last cats and dogs I will have in my life, I’m glad they have spent their time with me and me them. We moved into a rental and the previous renters and bond cleaners did a terrible job of maintaining cleanliness before vacating, the carpet was really bad in all the bedrooms and the cleanliness of everything was shit, the chemical(s) they used and didn’t rinse off properly also triggered my asthma (we needed to clean the house properly and patiently as possible) and of course I had an asthma attack (almost called ambulance for the 3rd time in my asthmatic history but corticosteroids and emergency inhalers for the win) I had to sleep out in the lounge room cause even if I stepped into the bedrooms with that carpet it would set my asthma off and so my husband and I told the property manager (with proof of a container full of dust from the carpets, photo of the dark grey tile juice that all had been apparently professionally steam/cleaned) took about 2 weeks to process admin, property management looking into the cleaning company responsible and get 3 quotes from different carpet companies and they replaced with all new carpet at their expense. Chores are energy killers but need to be done especially if your health and well being depend on it. No one would believe I struggle with anything for the simple fact that I look physically gifted. Edit: Hayfever tablets are great and asthma medications are life savers. If they weren’t invented I’d be dead long ago by now. Also This is as much information I’m willing to share with strangers.

'I think everyone has a hard time breathing sometimes!'

Incorrect. They don't even try to not be ableist.

They're not even trying to hide it-

Incorrect but for a really stupid reason. Subreddits are limited to 21 characters. Something like "/r/AbleistAndIncorrect" would fit!

​@robotortoise thats a perfect name for it, youre a genius

R/Imnotablistihaveanautisticfriend

as someone who works with autism, ADHD and other disabilities and mental illnesses. it boils my blood to see people faking. yes people fake, deal with it. faking is ableism. uts like when people who are neat and tidy say they have OCD. they don't, they're just neat and tidy. it minimises ehat OCD actually is and underminds how crippling it can be. this happens with all mental disabilities and mental health issues.

​@@MammothMorals we don't deny that people fake disorders. But this subreddit is all bullshit and fakeclaiming is also a form of ableism

@@MammothMoralsAs someone who works with the same groups of people and is diagnosed with ADHD: Yes, a percentage of people who state they are autistic are likely faking. However, a much larger percentage are not. By being assholes to people we don‘t know because we for some reason feel like we have authority on who *really* has a disability, we are harming more disabled people than ‚fakers‘. It‘s ableist. Isn‘t it convenient how people can be assholes to someone without being ableist simply by stating that they don‘t believe they other person is disabled? Accusing random people of faking behind the façade of concern is giving ‚protecting‘ people from false rape accusations in the name of feminism. Missing the forest for the trees.

@@MammothMoralsas some one who is actually autistic it is not the epidemic that allistic people love to rant about. If anything constantly being ready to point fingers and call autistic people not autistic is more harmful and ableist than this false phenomenon of faking autism will ever be, even if it were what was happening.(but it is not, it is just ableism disguised as some fucked up form of “social justice”)

I think the proper term for it is “concern trolling” and it is a sadly common phenomena when it comes to any form of minority rights discourse

EXACTLY!! Not only did it feel like my face was burning but I just kept wiping my face unconsciously at my school graduation ceremony 💀 I think my skin was also a bit sensitive to it but also just hated it completely and I felt bad for the artist (family friend tried so hard to make it comfy)

I also don’t wear makeup and hate how it feels, but not everyone has the same sensory issues. For example, I love bright sunlight.

Same!

lol i can handle most makeup, but stuff like foundation or really thick gloss is just a nope for me

Right! I try to put on makeup sometimes but I usually can't handle anything more than gloss and blush. Kinda related, but I hate being expected to wear makeup all the time. I told a girl I didn't really wear any makeup outside of special occasions, and she looked at me like I was an alien.

well I'm saying it now and I'll say it again, you're WRONG. Anti self-diagnosis people are by and large _diagnosed_ people who have lived with this for their entire life and can spot when someone only has a shallow understanding of ADHD or autism 90% of the time, and are rightfully upset when these people go on websites like TikTok and act like "representatives" and spread misinformation. It's no different than when people say "I'm so OCD" just because they organize their closet and drawers.

@@GoddoDoggo Well I'm saying it for the first time and probably not the last, that you both have a point and are right in your own ways.

​@@GoddoDoggomany people don't have the money or privilege to get an autism diagnosis. Also autism is under diagnosed in POC, women, and adults. there's a reason people turn to self diagnosis

It hasn’t changed, I’ve (also asthmatic) gotten the same treatment from my parents and teachers and almost all adults I’ve met, childhood to adult, and I’m only 20. (I’m sorry, btw.)

@@nkbujvytcygvujno6006 I’m sorry to hear that it remains awful.

I personally don't think autistic people can really be that, apart from learning to fake sociability well. which is very possible.

My mum knew I was autistic way before I was diagnosed, so she went out of her way to teach me how to socialise. Stuff like “always return the question” and “if someone mentions an event, ask how it went”. I still struggle with socialising, but if you didn’t know me, you wouldn’t guess I’m autistic-this stuff really annoys me, it undermines all the work my mum did to help me

@@elianaslivia4405 Personally I think it's a bit too assimilationist, but you do you.

@@tristanband4003well, we do need to move around the world and mask to a degree - just not the whole way

@@TryinaD Yeah i'd rather not mask period

I would say its a country's worth of circuses

"They are faking it," "Why do they sound like a robot?" Oh, I don't know, Jenny. MAYBE BECAUSE THAT'S A TRAIT OF AUTISM!?

​@@purplealpaca9278 "beep boop bop" "what are you saying" "im autistic" (im autistic so i can make this joke)

Nahhh 💀

I. You. That. BRUH

Facts!

they somehow think that their little disclaimer is doing them justice but they are showcasing literally the exact opposite behaviors of what they are saying (Not bulling shaming or whatever)

​@catballer69 Sadly, most of the time, disclaimers like that aren't actually meant to prevent harassment; they're meant to provide plausible deniability when the harassment happens.

Slippery slope though , it’s freedom of speech even if we hate it

I’m autistic and I despise that subreddit. However, I STRONGLY believe that freedom of expression is a basic human right. Period. Ignorant people like them are a dying breed anyway. We don’t need to censor them. The correct thing to do is precisely what Meg is doing here - challenging their stupid ideas with better ideas and debunking their misinformation. Censorship is a weapon of the weak. Censorship is what you do when you don’t have a good argument so you need to shut down your opponents altogether. Our arguments are good and we’re not weak. Let’s not call for fascist censorship just because this subreddit is cringey and toxic.

I had a friend who was diagnosed with autism, and so many people avoided her. One of my friends moms said they shouldn’t hang out with her because she’d “drag everyone down socially”. It was so sad and cruel since she was such a sweet person. She moved away, and god I miss her.

I agree. I did think that was what was happening until my brainsies caught up. My best friend died of an asthma attack in 3rd grade so I wouldn’t think twice about it if someone wore one, or I’d think it’s good idea!

Aye. On the bad days we don't engage much. But you can't stop living just because everything hurts.

Also, a lot of us learn that if we want to get what we need and want, it behooves us to present as eloquent, clean-cut, pleasant, polite, reasonable, non-aggressive, sympathetic, and likable.

@@dinosaysrawr In other words, if you want to survive in the allistic abled world, mask like you're allistic and abled. Then they think we're faking it because we act like allistic abled people.

@@tealkerberus748 So true! Sorry to hear you _know_ all too well! Here's hoping you have lots low pain days. Gentle hugs 🫂

@@dinosaysrawr No kidding! Not sure if you have chronic pain, autism or both. I'm both. Luckily, my wife makes my life as stress free as possible - which helps a _lot!_ I hope you have the support you need too 🫂

I really appreciate this post because as a self diagnosed autistic adult (knowing I have 3 autistic kids and a couple siblings a parent and it’s genetic and I can’t afford proper testing 😔) I don’t tell people about this part of myself because those in the community tend to judge me harshly but I really identified with megs story of motherhood being what brought it about and now after years of looking into it it makes so much sense for me in my life so yeah. That’s me and I just wanted to say thanks I felt seen ❤️🤓

It depends on when they tell me about it, it is not gonna look good to tell someone you are autistic while in the middle of an apology for sociopathic behavior. It just is not gonna work. Now if you tell me over a beer or at work when you're just being socially inept, meh I'm good with that.

In general, I do agree with you. However, I will add that there is nuance to the matter, if for no other reason than there is a variety of possible causes for any given symptom and personal circumstance can cause symptoms to overlap and what have you. Not everyone necessarily has done an appropriate amount of research either. So in these regards, the validity of the self-diagnosis can be shaky. This isn't to say a shaky one is false or deceptive; I'm mostly talking about someone who has spent, say, a few hours in a week and jumped to a definitive conclusion.

If they don't want people self-diagnosing, then they need to have more people trained at diagnosing adults and make it free.

@@helenejordan3896I’m in the same boat. After each of my kids was diagnosed it occurred to me as someone who shared essentially the same traits. It explains so many things, but it’s not something that I can really pursue for myself atm.

my spouse and I are in out late 40's and have squishmellows all over the bedroom. your squishies are valid.

your dad is wrong, sure some people might be weird about your squishmallows, but that's a them problem, not a you problem. I'd honestly feel way more comfortable with someone if I came to their house and they had a bunch of squishmallows. Like unless it's at the point of hoarding, it's completely fine.

I can't imagine what it's like to get mocked for literally needing a wheelchair to get around. Usually with my cane, people just move out of my way... I hope people just learn to live and let live.

heeyyy fellow zebra!!!

Hi from another autistic with EDS

Zebra here. I got shocked at how differently I got treated when I was on holiday with a flipstick (cane with a seat) like good shocked, people's reactions to me were completely different when they could physically see something was wrong. (Although my cane did end up accidentally getting stolen (it was given into reception) as I put it next to me while I did something and we'll I obviously looked healthy enough that it didn't belong to me, even with it right next to me.)

I'm not a wheelchair user, but it's astonishing how many people who don't (yet) need walking aids assume everyone using a wheelchair is completely incapable of walking. God forbid they see you using a cane or nothing at all; suddenly you're faking being disabled and "should be ashamed." The dualistic thinking is understandable in kids, but adults? Very disappointing.

Women get misdiagnosed with strokes too! Strokes in women don’t present the same as strokes in men and we learned this in the EARLY 2000s.

Or with other heart issues. I have tachycardia due to POTS. My resting bpm is around 100-110bpm. I got told my heart palpitations were "just anxiety" and my heart was racing due to "stress." Luckily, my standing tests for POTS don't lie. But so many other people will go with "just anxiety" because their condition is actually more complicated and isn't a simple test and result scenario.

​@@ohhmangos how did you get a diagnosis for POTS btw if you don't mind me asking?? i got diagnosed with fibromyalgia and hEDS last week and i've been kinda overwhelmed with all the stuff i need to learn and get figured out for treatment options and disability support, and i'm pretty sure i have some symptoms of POTS but when i brought it up with my gp he basically didn't know what it was and dismissed it at as a 'made up disorder' 😭😭

To be fair, the fact that women can have very odd symptoms of a heart attack, this is quite possible. I still don't think it is completely well known, even in medical circles.

@@remusgrrrl..that’s because most medical research has been done on men throughout history and women were completely ignored

Unrelated, but nice pfp.

WOAH, you don't act like a little boy even tho you're a grown adult and also a different person?!?!?!??!??!11?exclamationpointquestionmark!!!// that's crazy! whomst'd've thought.

I think the movie logic is: Nerdy = autistic, kids with inhalers look nerdy so nerdy autistic kid with inhaler is the trope now. Add ugly glasses broken by a bully and tasteless clohtes to taste.

@@Virtualblueart I'm glad the Goonies subverted most of the nerd kid tropes honestly because it's a whole movie of nerd kids. And I love it.

​@@VirtualblueartI hate that all those things describe me😂

@@spoopyvirgil4944I like when they do meet the pirates they sympathise with Sloth and help him break free

​@@Virtualblueart Inhaler is a nerdy thing now ? 😂 I used to tick most of the nerdy boxes back then, and now that other ones are appeareing, I still tick them

You described it absolutely perfectly, this is our life and our struggle and if they refuse to understand let them flounder in their self imposed ignorance ❤

it's the life we are doomed to live, better laugh about it

They are looking for community in a world where peoole are increasingly lonely and atomised by claiming some superficial identity. Combined with a society that turns everything into a commodity, you get people who just hoard labels in an attempt to replicate an authentic sense of self, just like they do with clothes or other consumer products.

A word of advice: high school never actually ends. It just melds into society's conceptions.

It’s non of those, the reason is “Jantelaw” or “the law of jante” meaning nobody cares and you’re not special, nor am I special. Like stfu.

Who said introversion isn't real????

@@amazinggrapes3045 A bunch of people on the internet a few years ago, who didn't like seeing people being happy that they learned something about themselves

You’re assuming way less than those cringe people , you’re doing good

Yes- this is so bizarre and frustrating about ever trying to communicate! My dad died in 2008 and I think he was the only person who ever actually understood anything I say. I think I’m relatively good at seeing other’s pov, even if I have to work at it, I like understanding ‘why’. Why it is typical and/or not dis-ordered to hear someone say something and then be focused on the meaning of what they DID NOT SAY… astounds me and is the source of much of my suffering

You put perfectly into words what I noticed with autistic people and allistic people. Thank you!

@@heidiburton929 THIS

Bruh, neurotypicals see a general phrase like, "People like yellow" and think it means "all people must like yellow"? That's weird. It's pretty obvious it can just mean, "there are people out there who like yellow". I could see it being intepreted as "people like yellow" = "a person must like yellow" depending on context but in a general use case, no. Person A: "I like hot dogs". Person B: "Ugh, why does anyone like hot dogs. A: People can just have a preference for certain foods. B: But I don't have a preference for it! Not ALL PEOPLE! A: Yes, but I meant that SOME do. It doesn't have to mean "ALL". Do you notice how I didn't use that word?

Yep! Here be that kind! And I don’t need to remember birthdays of every friend I ever had; it’s not a cool trick when no one can confirm accuracy with all the people I haven’t spoken to in like 30 years

This and fatlogic. These subreddits disguised as "concern" for people that are just bullying others are crazy. I can't imagine being so miserable as to interact with these communities on the daily.

@@lambybunny7173that and like the redpilled one which is supposed to be for men’s mental health…. It breeds incels

Yes a bejeweled inhaler sound so fun and cool lol ^^

I would love to see it

❤ you should

Do it! It sounds cool!!

Go for it!

REAL. Like, it's MY disorder, I get to make jokes about it.

@@Alisibeth_Talia212Same. I make jokes about my disorders (I have several).

"stop glamorizing disorders" and all it is is an autistic person being themselves and maybe talking about their autism online

True but it becomes weird when people without said disorder start to glamorise and romanticise it ,,,

Nothing better than taking what was used against you for decades and finally embracing it. It won't go away, so learning to love it is such a healing experience.

Ding-dong: masking is faker lingo terminology Same ding-dong: describes masking and points it out as a potential aspect of autism.

I saw someone claim vocal stims aren't real either

Congrats on the diagnosis btw!

I still have to consciously remind myself to do that. It doesn't come naturally, but it's what people expect and it is fair play, after all. There are very few things that "people expect" that are actually fair, so I like to support the things that are.

​@@tealkerberus748I always feel differently about it. Sometimes I'll remember I should do it, other times I won't. In general I struggle with it because I have the natural inclination that if people want to tell me something, they will. If they want to talk about how they've been doing, they will. Since a lot of the time it seems to be evident that people are not at all interested in telling you how they've truly been doing even if other times they have been, but it's still expected to ask even when you don't want to and the other person doesn't want to be asked? I feel like it's a better system for people to just talk about what they want to talk about, and for people to ask questions they are genuinely curious or concerned with.

@@tealkerberus748 I was at a wedding reception last night talking to some people I hadn’t seen in years, and I realized I was not responding back with the socially inane questions to keep the conversation going. It’s almost painful for me to ask those silly questions, but, thinking of this conversation, I did it. 😂

@@AliceBunny05 fair but i would counter with the thought that the kin could have a thing they want to say but want to be talking in general before stating the given thoughts

They do???

​@@1EmuFan Yes, really. They do this to amputees, too

@@1EmuFan Yes, All the time. I suppose they have to make sure your still disabled 🙄

I complained about this to my Social Security assesor and she said there's some law that they have to do reassessments every few years. Which doesn't mean it's not a stupid law, but at least there's _a_ reason they do it, I guess.

The law itself is cruel, pointless, damaging, and stupid. We can agree on that.

also just completely misunderstanding younger people. they try on different identities, looking to see what fits and makes them comfortable. it’s a part of growing up and discovering yourself. inevitably, some may find that they are actually autistic, and the ones who don’t will move on. but no, there isn’t a bunch of teens running around claiming autism just because.

I think the big lesson is to not trust strangers (and especially teenagers) at their word for multiple reasons!

​@@robotortoiseUm, I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding you, but to clarify for the OP, they are saying that we *should* be less sceptical about teenagers saying they're autistic, because it's not true that there's a lot of teens whimsically self-diagnosing as autistic after barely any research. So, we should listen to teens when they say they think they might be autistic and take them seriously, and, you know, help them.

​@@megan-mr9vkThis is just like how trans people do. Try on different identities to see what fits. And there is also the conspiracy about "every kid is becoming trans now a days" which is unfounded and untrue. Unfortunately, every minority is told this. "Everyone wants to be like you (this is a bad thing?) and they're all confused and you're making them x/y/z."

@@robotortoisethat is one of the dumbest takes i have heard in a while

Maybe it's just me taking things too literally but is just a hair on your face enough to trigger a meltdown??

@@turtleburger200 I'm not the original commenter but sometimes when I'm already pretty overwhelmed/stressed out, a little thing can be enough to be the last straw that makes my meldown happend So if for this person, the feeling of their hair on their face is a sensorial discomfort then having to deal with one more sensory issue can send them into meltdown (since they said "your hair", I think they didn't meant only one hair, just the feeling of all the hairs touching your face)

@@turtleburger200 no, just sometimes i get overwhelmed and yeah, basically its the last straw to trigger a meltdown sometimes, hope this helps

@@st4rface_r1ssie oh that makes sense thanks for the explanation

@@turtleburger200 yes it makes me scream and cry and i get very upset (im not joking btw as an autistic adhder)

Don’t pay attention to those kinds of people. They’re just assholes. You’re probably a great person.

​@@SheepyBo1 Most of us are great people, lol. (System joke)

What are your favorite animes

Which is why some people see watching anime as a red flag.

It's funny, I always thought I hated romance/romcoms before I got into anime ones, but then I realized I only hated neurotypical romance. With anime, I love it in all demographics, shounen, shoujo, josei, and seinen.

@@LocalCat306 Hard to give a full list, but some of them are Kaguya-Sama Love is War, Made in Abyss, Higurashi When They Cry, Nichijou, and Apothecary Diaries.

I use that trick too 😊works perfectly 😅

ohh my god i do that too 😅 i also tell my family i love them when they seem stressed because their stress makes me stressed

@@michellechair That's something my son does 🤣 isn't it cool how we all learn the same tricks to get along with the world 🤗

This is how I somehow ended up with a recent encounter turning into the customer I was checking out giving me her stegosaurus necklace. I had to superglue the little stone in place so it wouldn’t keep falling out, but it was a rather pleasant, though awkward, interaction. LOL

Makes sense with how deeply rooted ableism has been in European society way before they ever colonized America. It’s still basically barely any better than it was in the 1700s in many ways, as I’ve begun to learn about US disability lack of rights, protections, and laws.

I think videos like this really help out mental health and disabled communities at a whole, because a lot of us don’t have a very strong online presence as a community the same way the autistic community does. Don’t have a diagnosis? You’re faking, even if you never claimed one to have one to begin with. Act the wrong way? You’re faking. Breath in a way that most people don’t like? You’re faking. I hate fakedisordercringe so bad. I have not been called every name under the sun and denied treatment again and again to have my life deemed a JOKE because I don’t fit into the mold of what someone with my problem does. This work helps us all in that regard

I'm kind of with you on that. If they want me to be interested they had best have some good damn stories to tell me.

If I ask anyone about something to be nice, I just then sit there…. Not knowing what to reply with because I just do not care in the slightest aaahhhhhhhh

Try my answer - *shrug* "You'll tell me if you want too." :D

this is how i feel when people want to show me pictures on their phone. like i don’t careeeeee

i’m autistic, but honesty without kindness is just cruelty. it may be hard to learn but it’s important irregardless

I'm pretty sure most of the discourse came from the song with the lyric "everyone is a little neurospicy" which is just too close to "everyone is a little autistic" which is an actual phrase used to trivialize autism.

I don’t use the word “spicy” to describe people because I’m an Equestrian, and I believe the term spicy comes from the equestrian community, but in the horse world you call a horse “spicy” when they’re acting out, which is actually a sign of extreme stress. So calling a horse “spicy” is not only making fun of a horse who is extremely stressed out but it also normalizes those behaviors. Calling someone spicy feels the same way. Like I’m dismissing their struggles. Calling a horse spicy is a great way to get called out as a horse abuser, it’s like a walking red flag, so I don’t call anyone spicy even if they have no idea what it means in the equestrian community.

​​@@anothermiddleschoolburnout8816That's gross. "Because normal is a little bit bland."

I so agree with this. Let me call myself autistic/asperger's if I want to. Neurotypicals like to not listen to how neurodivergent/disabled people wish to be referred to. Like, to seem "good" or "holy". "No, don't call yourself that!" "Martha, don't make me censor my speech talking about myself using medical terms/community terms just because it makes you upset."

@@DustyHoney That's interesting to know--I don't have connections to the equestrian community and hadn't heard of the term's origins.

Also, if I did one based on my own experiences, it would likely be an Escher-style stairway image, with a rainbow watercolor splash over it.

I get what you feel, it hard to be different from the normies, but maybe if you still want them to be friends itt will help if you ask that friend if you can have a serious conversation about it one time where you explain how those words hurt you and why you are like you are.

this is emotionally painful, im sorry for what you'e been through. i had experiences like hearing these words too, but not from a trusted friend, so to think about your feelings at the time makes me so sad. hope you enjoy your time and if you like, find great friends 🍎 (i like this emoji so im putting it as a heart...) (sorry for my english).

I feel this; it’s unbelievably heartbreaking. Also, my 81yo mother started to say all those things less often just in the past 6 months. I think one of her friends might’ve said something to her bc lord knows she never took me seriously when I told her it wasn’t ok. Bananas that I’m proud of her for trying? I wish no one ever disappointed you like that

Those are really hurtful things to hear from someone you trusted with your unmasked self. I'm sorry.

Screw them. (I hate people like that. If they want to be friends let them come crawling back with a nothing less than perfect apology and even then, still screw them.)

My boyfriend was extremely sick as a kid, like full asthmatic. Spent months on the hospital because of it. Now I've never seen him have an asthma attack, and he does normal exercises and stuff and it's completely fine. I would kick anyone who told him he's cured

i'm not asthmatic, but i have a lot of headaches and frequent migraines (don't know what it's caused by or what's the name of the condition because doctors don't listen to me). they're also triggered by exercise. when they first appeared i tried to just "exercise them out" because i was doing sports at the time, but then i had to stop because i just kept getting worse with no treatment. now i don't exercise at all and i constantly get told by ome family members and doctors that i should and that it's all my fault in the first place because i didn't exercise enough and that i should just learn to push through the pain. like how does any of this make any sense?? (btw i also have trauma relating to sports and exercise being tied to morals and just in general being worthy of existing, so their comments are not helping at all, treatment and support would probably help, but i'm not getting any of those any time soon)

Maybe try writing a blog? It could be just to write out what you want to, it doesn't have to be public and maybe talk to friends and family about it? Family could be bio or found family

@@purplealpaca9278 I have very few people in my life that know about me having DID, my roommates, obviously are aware, and one of them is a system herself. My bio family, for my safety, can't know the full extent of what I go through. I did have a blog on Tumblr for a while, but have kinda abandoned it for some time now., and even when I did use it, I was very sparse in my posts. Maybe I'll return to it at some point. Neither my face nor full name are on it luckily.

@@bbbbbthn3 Going back to the Tumblr blog might be a good idea. Good luck and have a good day

@@purplealpaca9278 thank you for being awesome.

Orion just did an interview with an autistic creator who has DID 😊

Same!! I just realized this within the past year and have no plans of changing bc I’m exhausted from a lifetime of trying to change for everyone. I’m 47. It seems to make the most sense to say something if you want, don’t if u don’t. I despise being asked questions esp personal, I always golden-ruled it too

I'm 46 and just have learnt one has to return questions (except "how are you?"). If one wants to tell something about themselves, they may ask a question, hear an answer and then say: "Well, and I (am going to spend my holidays or else) like this..." It's quite socially acceptable and doesn't make anyone think of an interrogation 😂.

@@heidiburton929 Totally relate to your explanation 👌

@@elsiest.irvyne9515 I’m kind of done with ‘socially acceptable’ at this point in my life. I don’t even care if someone I’ve never met before and never going to meet again thinks I’m rude, they can think what they like. I know if I’m not intending to be rude and if they want to take it another way I’m not going to waste my energy on arguing the toss. It’s not often I’m in a situation where there are going to be consequences if I don’t engage in reciprocal meaningless small talk. I’m more concerned about my interactions with other ND peeps. In those instances I genuinely care about how they are, what they are up to, and it feels awkward in a different way to ask those small talk questions but I can just say ‘genuine question’ or something and that’s okay.

WAIT THEY ACTUALLY LIKE THAT?

If we're citizens of the internet, when can we vote out those in charge? Or are we actually subjects?

@NJGuy1973 Good philosophy there, I meant it more as an insult to those on that fisgusting reddit site, but you give a good point.

I have chronic bone pain. Iv had it for 20 years. If i didnt make jokes about it or just laugh at the sheer insanity of my idiot doctors being inconsitant when trying to diagnose the problem, id be unalived. 😂 LET PPL BLOW OFF STEAM ffs. stop policing ppls humor.😂

Autism can be diagnosed at any age - early childhood, later childhood, teens, any decade of adulthood. And a lot of us have very subtle stims that nobody would recognise as a stim or sometimes nobody would even realise we're doing - like tensing and relaxing a muscle without actually moving that limb.

I'm actually not fond of it personally. I understand why it's used but I don't feel like I relate to a butterfly with my ADHD. They're a little bit too graceful and elegant for me to connect with it in that sense 😂

@@claripossum2079 We can be clumsy and forgetful butterflies dw /hj In all seriousness though, I definitely get what you're saying. I didn't know we had any symbol at all and also I just like butterflies lol

@@VictorianWaistcoat yeah I totally understand. I'm more fond of the ADHD creature myself, aka the "BTW Creature" because it looks like a hyper cat without a tail that has overdosed on caffeine 😂

@@claripossum2079 oh my goodness I just googled it and it looks like exactly how I feel on the first day missing my meds

I didn't know either, and it's so cool

I am recently late-diagnosed, and if you don't mind me asking, since your revelation have you found conversating much more difficult? Such as a difficulty in answering questions (like this one), perhaps developing multiple responses if text and having difficulty in choosing between them?