Let's play with Daemon Prince of Chaos Undivided | Total War: WARHAMMER III 

*Angrier Khorne noises*

When Khorne gets so angry his voice breaks ...

*not even a good skull can end the rage*

This implies Khorne ever calms down. He doesn’t. He sets the bar for how angry someone can be and the bar never lowers.

god I almost never see a comment worthy of upvote, but this one, this one is

I MUST agree with you. This trailer was a piece of art! Now those 2 weeks and 2 days will feel like 2 years!

@@TonightTheMusicSeemsSoLoudd no, the lil small dude is definitely bloodletter, right? The big ones with wings are bloodthirsters, I thought

I thought the same thing for sure when they chose to show Katarin dead with eyes still open

@@Lynch2507 you are correct, the little red people are bloodletters, and the big read dudes are Bloodthirsters

Vampire counts beware

Send him forth...

Vampires love cannons

2000 calories burnt successfully!

I'm gonna play this game... on a 70'', plasma screen TV.

It was there in 3 kingdoms

@@timostegemann9738 yeah, but not quite to the same extent

The drawback is that that is really the ONLY faction mechanic Chaos Undivided has. They only get small pieces of the really powerful monogod faction powers not to mention there's no tech tree either to boost unit strength so whatever units you're using the only way to improve them is through Lord skills. So, yea, super diverse army, but not as strong in any one area as any of the mono-gods and depending how much you enjoy the faction mechanics the other gods have not as interesting. Still to me, I think this will be my first Demon campaign, I plan on playing my long awaited Kislev first but this might be my second campaign it's a toss up between this or Cathay.

Each limb sold seperately

The modding community is going to take this to the next level

Though don't try to attack Tzeentch with a Nurgle force unless you have a massive advantage. You'll get blasted and roasted while unable to keep them from reforming barriers.

@@norfemignissius4936 You need to crack tzeentch's eggs with a khorne force for sure!

I always wondered why those are the opposite pairings. Shouldnt it be might vs magic and decadence vs growth? I think it would make more sense

@@steelcladCompliant Change vs Stagnation / Focused mind vs Hedonism. Tzeentch is the evolution of everything, good or bad. while Nurgle is the eternal cycle of life and death. Khorne is courage, no trickery, and care only for the number of kills, dislike useless torture, while Slaanesh is deception, new pleasure and sensations in everything, and the experience of the kill, not caring for the number, but the How is done.

​@@steelcladCompliant Well they all hate each others, but some more precise parallels can be drawn. Nurgle is stagnation, Tzeentch is change. Khorne is reign other physical prowess, Tzeentch is the god of Magic (which Khorne hate) Tzeentch's knowledge nourrish the mind, Slaanesh's decadence abandon all wisdom for perpetual excess. I don't remember all of them. As for why they often point Nurgle/Tzeentch and Khorne/Slaanesh... Well it's change and stagnation for the first I said it. I believe it's a more historical reason for Khorne and Slaanesh, the young prince of pleasure is the last that attempted to seize it's throne as the most powerfull chaos god. And they also both pull extremely hard on claiming the souls of Elves. It is said that Khaine, the bloody-handed god, is a "son" (metaphorically) of both. A bit more detailled in 40k though since they litterally tore Khaine appart trying to claim him.

Low key a very badass quote

@@raysets_ that's stupid

I will make mine like a Wordbearer Demon Prince, fiercly devoted to all 4.

Cringe

@@N3r0ThlHeavyMetal @David Green 🤨 didn’t ask

finally gonna bitchslap malekith appropriately hard with chaos

Tbh when I play de I try to confederate at like turn 80 so I too can have a great fleet. I once conquered the entirety of ulthuan in less than 10 turns while I only had 4 armies walking the map. Only 2 of which were in ulthuan. Black arcs filled with shades are just so proficient, and that at a near 0 cost.

@@Olav_Hansen and Black arks also don't count as army in terms of increasing global upkeep. OP as hell.

@@Mario-kf3ej I was only having 4 armies BECAUSE they didn't count. I spammed all the upkeep reduction, and got near free upkeep at 4 armies. Having your entire coastline defended by ships because they had like 50 upkeep is the charm of it.

so tired of this woke crap. (sory, but joke, I'll see myself out.)

@@edwardcoe I've got nothing against gender-bending demons loving each other and getting married, just as long as I don't have to see it. Keep it behind closed doors, for goodness sake!

I mean thats the trademark of the faction.

Thanks :)

PC mob: "BuT ThErE ArE No BlacK PeoplE In The TRAiLEr!!!!! HERP DERP"

Yup, this is a massive oversight. And the same problem was there with Ulthuan's great gates in the second game, which makes me think they are aware of it and yet won't change it on purpose.

That would be pretty cool. You could also have the trebuchet in battle as an army ability. I don't neccesarily think a trebuchet is best for the Deamons of Chaos, but it's a good idea.

I will mod this day 1

you would still suffer attrition via exhaustion or pure fear, being in a defensive siege is terrifying as you need to be awake 24/7 and ready. if a siege keep lasting soldier will be tired and starting to get paranoia when the demons will attack, so in that case we should only see attrittion on lower tier units

@@rainingChickenwing14 This is why you rotate soldiers. CA just forgot how sieges work historically.

Ah, true that

Starvation is hardly a threat versus magic and plague

@@tomthestone1470 even then though, they can replace troops with new ones if they aren't encircled. It's kinda the whole point of sieging to trap the defending force.

Yeah it's the great bastion you shouldn't be able to siege it for a few months and then just walk through

@KIDAS they attacked from the chaos wastes, not from the Cathay side. It's hard to tell but watch it again, they show the map in the fly-by.

There was a bit of it revealed in a blog post but I'm so ready to see them in action.

to be honest, I just typed randomly on the internet "the greatest mysteries of history", I must have come across a very old site X)

@@akaroskomaru2130 sounds... mysterious.

It looks like Slaanesh will be able to seduce units and make them fight with us - probably the units will be more dangerous the lower their health will be (pain/pleasure). My guess is that Slaanesh & Tzeentch will be the 2 lords who will f*** around (changing settlements, breaking alliances...) rather than the straight-fowardness of Khorne or Chaos Undivided.

@@Shamanteng Slaanesh will definitely have something to do with diplomacy, but it definitely won't be changing settlements or breaking alliances. I have a feeling that he will be the one that will be able to make vassals and CA probably changed how Vassals work so it'll be interesting

It will start with him Beratung up archeon the neverchosen

All the Skaven are eradicated thus making the End Times actually enjoyable

Big D on deck for battle

lol 😂

Wait why??

@@EroticOnion23 he has a fondness of dragons 😉

@@Defeateddragon Yea but he's got like hundreds of dragons already no?? 😁

And the slanesh one with the more slaneshy boddy, they all look a bit too mutch like the defoult, more khorny deamon

i agree, they should give them themed armor from the customizable demon prince

I've watched a few streams and videos with the survival battle in the Realms of Chaos and each Daemon Prince was different from the video. My guess is that each Daemon Prince is customised differently, either being generated at the beginning of the Quest or depending on the difficulty. Do not quote me on that though, we'll know once the game is out.

@@farseeraradrel4808 They seem to be randomly generated, as I have seen several streams on L/VH difficulty and the Tzeentch champion looked different in each.

It's all part of the plan

Yeah kinda a bummer for me to, shouldn't be able to attrition the bastion imo

Yeah exactly what I was thinking, hopefully somebody makes a mod that disables it

@@boolean6532 oh for sure, but CA should fix it before launch anyway

@@qwertzu1195 yeah like how they fixed all those other bugs...........

@@wolfgangrecordings that's not a bug

Yeah thats just straight up stupid

yeah unless attrition from plague caused it, its very stupid

@@Asraeks I really hope it's the plague

Who cares?

@@EldenLord. cringe

why not both brother, i mean its the same for me...CHAOS OGERS AHOY!

I had that question as well. They didn't think this through

Maybe because he attacked from the inside.

@@EldenLord. I mean, it is still a massive wall with other gates. You can't really surround it per say so you can't cut the defenders off from resupply, logically speaking.

Siege is more than just starving people out. It's also bombardment, skirmishes and what-not. Plenty of sieges have been won harassing the enemy till they give up.

Maybe having a supply line diminishes the attrition but not fully. As a siege would require supplies and manpower to hold it, with or without close provincies

it's also not out for another month so how the hell can you make claims like that?

@@wolfgangrecordings There are so many gameplay streams out there. Do you live in a cave?

@@silentgamingsg9028 i regularly watch tw:w streams actually, just saying you can't claim something's "the best so far" if you haven't played it yet

@@wolfgangrecordings you absolutely can if you've seen enough of it via streams as well as other forms of media to form a conclusion. Playing it isn't required to see the obvious.

@@wolfgangrecordings If you watch them regularly, then you’d know that it’s out in 2 weeks and 2 days. Not a month.

It's most likely due to a technical limitation that prevents them making the Grand Bastion Gates immune to the usual effects that apply the settlements when they're under siege. Still, it does strike me as odd to directly mention it in the video given that its on of those things I would have though they would have preferred not to draw attention to...

Yeah its bullshit that even the most well defended cities will suffer attrition right after 1 turn. At least give us the possibility to stockpile food or smth

@@FilipMoncrief worst part is, theres literally a system in Three Kingdoms like that. The game from which they took the diplomacy rework. Well and made a faction from

@@qwertzu1195 bruh it sometimes amazes me how short-sighted the devs are. Like who thought this is gonna be a good idea

@@FilipMoncrief for a lot of races the supply mechanic probably wouldn’t fit with and they must have decided it would be too unbalanced to hand it for some and not others. That said, for the gates they really should have just given them some kind of attrition immunity and set the starve out time to be so high that it’s not realistic to even try it.

They would have to buy it off of Relic Entertainment first.

@@fabianthecownip Why? GWS lets everyone do Warhammer stuff. Have you ever looked at how many 40K games are out, and how many different devs are doing them? I have no doubt that GWS would absolutely let Sega do a 40K Total War. In fact, Im fairly certain they are. So are most people. Theres a weapon in TW3 called the "Bolter". Relic doesnt own the rights to 40K.

In fact at just a quick glance through my Steam gamess, theres Neocore, Slytherin, Rogue Factor....and that was just a quick glance at the games i have installed. So why would they need to buy anything from Relic? They only did DoW. No one says Sega has to do DoW. In fact TW is totally different than any of the DoW games.

@@Vargre How do you do battle formations like Total War with a modern title? You'd need a squad based game to do modern eras. You'd need cover mechanics. Not two formations shooting at each other with machine guns like Napoleonic warfare. It would have to sort of play the same as Relic's games, though probably even more grand scale (like a hybrid between DoW and Red Dragon with campaign features). However, they might enter a sort of grey, or maybe even pitch black, legal area. We dont know the contract between Relic and GWS when it comes to whether they hold exclusive rights to Warhammer 40K squad strategy games - strategy games being the keyword here. They obviously don't own the IP. After the DoW 3 failure I wouldn't be surprised if they'll lose it, though. Anyways, it would have to be a completely different game than the Total War we know, being modern warfare (though with a medieval twist) and all. I do admit i was a little dumb in forgetting the close ties between CA and SEGA as well as Relic and SEGA. Still doubt CA would be willing to enter Relic territory (would need a completely new or heavily modified engine, probably)

@@fabianthecownip I see that being completely plausible. I can see Sega coming up with something that differs from anything Relic has done in the past. DoW2 was based on small unit tactics and included cover and firing lines, etc. It had little base building to it, and no large armies. A Sega 40k would be massive in scope, just like all their TW games. 50 unit squads and the like. I dunno, no one can see the future, and your right, we have no real idea whats going to happen in the next few years with Relic, Sega and GWS. But im just betting on a 40K game. It might not happen, but im thinking it will.

Literally should Be an option for every faction. Everything would benefit. I can't wait for modding

Imagine Archaon coming out of nowhere, murking the Daemon Prince in one hit, and then absorbing all the power for himself. Sounds like some End Times BS that GW my just do.

Because the chaos gods wont make a daemon everchosen after Be'lakor 🤷‍♂️

like tubby say , the last its happen be'lakor wanted to become a chaos gods and become a bit too powerful for they're liking

@@TubbyNumpkins I don’t think the Godslayer was asking for their permission

@@co-bruh1423 Oh they would absolutely do that, but only at the last moment when Daniel is about to win over the mortal realms and then Archaon cheap shots him.

Dammed*

you mean like in the previous games?

@@wolfgangrecordings nothing drastic but just slight changes to indicate that this settlement is occupied, I mean it just seems natural that a settlement that is occupied by demons won’t stay the same after you recapture it

@@milftracker8309 yeah, some of the aesthetics are a bit off in general i think. in tw:w2 (dunno about 1) even the landscape changes depending on the occupying race, and yeah lil details like that are great. it'd be cool if the actual buildings changed to the race of the occupier, but i'd take just the banners on the walls changing to the occupying faction at this point

They might have been recruited through the outpost system? I guess we'll se in two weeks' time

Its funny to me than in a game with 10+ schools of magic, dragons, undead pirates and talking treemen, the one question that concerns some ppl and makes no sense to them is: "how can demons encircle a wall?"

​@@equ170 sigh... are you a c.a. shill? first time i've heard anyone using the game's setting to defend what is quite blatantly a development oversight and logical fallacy. the reason so many are saying this is because it *makes no sense* either in the world of the game or in real world history. warhammer may be high fantasy but it also obeys the laws of logic and has a solid foundation in real historical warfare, otherwise how could you make a playable game out of it if anyone could do whatever they wanted because "fantasy"? cathay's great wall CANNOT BE BESIEGED, because you have to surround a fortification and cut off supply lines in order to besiege it and cause attrition to the defending army. the great wall is open on both sides so the daemons would have to encircle the *entire* wall to besiege it, in which case they'd already be past it and a siege would be pointless anyway. can't believe i had to explain that but there you go

@@wolfgangrecordings Tzeench has the power of teleportation, a lot of the chaos demons can fly and could just casually fly on top or over the wall. Just yelling it cannot be besieged proves nothing. Where is your law of logic now?

@@wolfgangrecordings forgot to add: some demons even use ladders

@@equ170 hahaha my logic is very, very sound actually. yes, flying units can (and always have been able to) fly on or over fortification walls in the tw:w games; tzeentch factions probably will have a teleport ability too, but once again you're missing the point: if the entire attacking army flies over or teleports past the wall then you've bypassed the defender's front line and there'd be no sense in turning back and engaging forces you don't have to fight. i'll reiterate since you're clearly having a hard time: a siege is a battle where a fortification is *surrounded* by the attacker and *supply lines are cut off* so that the population starves, hence attrition damage in the game. the defenders of the great wall have the entire empire of cathay at their back so they wouldn't lose supply lines, and while a defensive wall can obviously be attacked, it can't be besieged by definition because if you can surround it then you must have got past it, ergo why not just keep going. again, bit surprised to have to explain this