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get in losers we're going jopping
just some superm thoughts. now that its been a week maybe now people will shut up about it.
yall ALREADY KNOWWWWW WHATS COMING FRIDAY. the day of reckoning is upon us. see you then
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@2000seoulsonyosound
@2000seoulsonyosound 5 лет назад
SM boy groups are soooo popular already. i wish they would put all this energy on promoting red velvet.
@w.iroses
@w.iroses 5 лет назад
RIGHT!
@keke3897
@keke3897 5 лет назад
will red velvet ever get a world tour
@deniser.1844
@deniser.1844 5 лет назад
But Capitol records is mostly behind this, not Sm
@aseuto4206
@aseuto4206 5 лет назад
intellect
@kc8724
@kc8724 5 лет назад
Lipstick Chateau Wine Color isn’t it just a solo concert
@somegirl6624
@somegirl6624 5 лет назад
Can people stop hating on these men for succeeding at their job? Edit: This was only in defense of SuperM. This had nothing to do with BTS. I’m actually an ARMY myself. Edit 2: Thanks for the likes 🥰
@kyooongie
@kyooongie 5 лет назад
armys keep saying 'bts paved the way' but then proceed to have a mental breakdown over other kpop groups walking on that path. hypocrisy at best.
@oopsy-daisy
@oopsy-daisy 5 лет назад
bbh’s puta pretty much. armys don’t wanna see other groups succeed over bts, which is sad.
@chen_a5561
@chen_a5561 5 лет назад
@@kyooongie armies are only mad that sm paid the way for superm to reach no. 1. when ateez got no.1 did you see any army have a "mental breakdown" no because ateez success was organic
@heylinmartinez9780
@heylinmartinez9780 5 лет назад
bbh’s puta armys are mad bc, people compared them with bts , I think BTS is BTS and SuperM is SuperM, if they want to succeed they have to do it without dragging BTS and just do it by themselves
@majoriestevens9889
@majoriestevens9889 5 лет назад
Music industry is about money. Bts succeed in an organic way, which is cool. But not every group will follow the same path. Everybody does bundles is not cheating. Please stop fighting why can’t we support both groups?im from South America and many artist try hard to promote in US and most fail but we support them, it’s not bad trying to be succeed in the US, like I said not everybody succeed in US in a organic way. Also remember when BTS broke view records on RU-vid arianators and believers were very upset, BTS fans were streaming the song a lot of times a day, they thought how to streams deleting watching history, etc, arianators and believers said army were cheating, but in my opinion army were playing by the rules. We should feel proud of BTS and army, but please don’t expect everybody will succeed in the same way, there is a lot of artists from around the world that deserve a chance to be in the spotlight, please we should stop cyber bulling and spamming their videos, if you don’t like just don’t watch their content.
@madzzz223
@madzzz223 5 лет назад
i think that SM should stop focussing on money as much and focus on their artists more. both Jonghyun and Sulli have left us and it still feels like all they are after is money. people will eventually stop supporting them if they don't make an effort to take care of their idols.
@SunlightBeauty
@SunlightBeauty 5 лет назад
I agree SM should take care of their idols better but SM Entertainment is a BUSINESS and businesses' main priority is MONEY. If companies stop focusing on money as much then they serve less economical purpose but are now just training and creating idols for fun and getting little money. That's not realistic at all.
@sashutka100
@sashutka100 5 лет назад
Also did not treat well Hangeng,exo ex-members and Jessica
@chen_a5561
@chen_a5561 5 лет назад
@@SunlightBeauty but there was still effective ways to protect their idols with their money and instead they were too focused in their own greed to help their idols.
@SunlightBeauty
@SunlightBeauty 5 лет назад
@@chen_a5561 I never suggested that there wasn't more they could've done, if anything I specifically said that I think the should take care of their idols better. But the point was, with the way companies work, money first, idols second. It's just the harsh way of the world. (Edit) P.S. As long as it gets to a time when idols can live fairly well, then money being top priority isn't such a bad thing. And I hate to say this, but this kind of outcome requires work from us as the fans/audience AND the company because a huge portion of idols troubles were the fault of the the audience ("fans") not the companies. The companies and the idols would never have to deal with and fix problems if no one was creating them in the first place. We ALL need to do better, fans AND companies.
@anyacallahan8175
@anyacallahan8175 5 лет назад
Really?
@ultraheavens
@ultraheavens 5 лет назад
honestly this video is like a breath of fresh air after all the negativity this week
@jurneejones5348
@jurneejones5348 5 лет назад
The fact that people really think Capitol records a multi million dollar company would risk doing something illegal for SuperM is beyond me. Like They aren't some start up company with no experience, their artist are katy perry, snoop dog, etc.
@christabuki5459
@christabuki5459 5 лет назад
LITERALLY WHAT I SAID. This company literally used to manage the Beatles, you think they were gonna do some illegal shit for a group that had so much hate even begin with? It just didn’t make sense
@violetsnotviolence
@violetsnotviolence 5 лет назад
@@christabuki5459 They did cheat the Beatles out of their royalties from 1969-1979. Which totaled about $30 million dollars. As far as this goes they were passing off South Korean sales as American. Korean fans could only purchase it from the US, and were made to do so at a higher price. www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20191016000902 I have nothing against the group, but let's not pretend record companies won't do what they need to to make money.
@braids247
@braids247 5 лет назад
violetsnotviolence they’ve already confirmed that if you purchase it from the US it still doesn’t count unless the address is an American zip code
@violetsnotviolence
@violetsnotviolence 5 лет назад
@@braids247 Well, good for them. Now they need to make it so their Korean fans can purchase it in South Korea, and not have to pay more for it.
@christabuki5459
@christabuki5459 5 лет назад
violetsnotviolence They just announced today that they’ll be able to purchase the album in Korea too
@no-ku6jp
@no-ku6jp 5 лет назад
sometimes people forget sm is a company and not just a 'home' for their idols. at the end of the day, they'll always use marketing strategies to get themselves more money. it's, you know, what companies are meant to do?? i can see why people would be upset with the idea of superm when it comes in with the concerns of the other groups but blaming it with just the reasoning of 'sm is only doing this for money!!' is silly because sm debuted all their groups for money. every company in this industry does that.
@deltathedragon4871
@deltathedragon4871 4 года назад
shoebinie i think the funniest argument I’ve heard was people saying that they over work the members but want comebacks for all of them like ASAP I’m like choose one jeez and this is what they signed up for and they worked hard and they love doing it so why can’t we all get along and support thank you for being a understanding person no matter if your a Koop Stan or not
@deltathedragon4871
@deltathedragon4871 4 года назад
Perla Lopez Gomez I think the avengers thing is a stretch I would’ve just said they are the best of sm and what kpop could offer or something like that but we got exo making a comeback in like a week and nct is in the works and wayv has a comeback like people can chill this is their job lmao
@erensnon-existantfreedom7060
@erensnon-existantfreedom7060 4 года назад
And the thing is, I believe it is mostly for image. Superm's debut was honestly quite bland for welcoming the western audience. Most people who would honestly know and stan them would be kpop fans in general.
@sarahkey9578
@sarahkey9578 5 лет назад
The only problem I have with Superm is that Lucas only has 26.3 seconds in ALL the songs combined. SM. why.
@JayneAngelinaSkye
@JayneAngelinaSkye 5 лет назад
they threw him in there
@aetinyzen
@aetinyzen 5 лет назад
same- i knew it was gonna happen though
@honeyv540
@honeyv540 4 года назад
They only used him for looks and popularity.
@lowhead_bread
@lowhead_bread 4 года назад
you know sm had a thing that an idol that is famous for their looks is will only get low lines until the fans started to realize their talent like
@ME-hs7ll
@ME-hs7ll 5 лет назад
Thank the lord for SuperM, the bp hate train stopped at least for now. LOL
@sarahkey9578
@sarahkey9578 5 лет назад
lolll
@kliphord123X
@kliphord123X 5 лет назад
Im not hatin gonna support and the direction theyre gonna go in the future.
@lisairene804
@lisairene804 5 лет назад
As a SuperM fan, I shouldn’t find this comment funny but I do.
@viak3859
@viak3859 5 лет назад
Amen
@smxciiichic
@smxciiichic 5 лет назад
Honestly I feel this was so innovative. Also for multi fandom stans like myself I’ve never been happier. Yes I would love to hear more from exo and WayV but this was fine for me.
@scarlettcostley8398
@scarlettcostley8398 5 лет назад
When I first heard jopping I was pretty disappointed but..... I LOVE IT NOW💕💕💕(I’m obsessed with mark now)
@intellectualhumour
@intellectualhumour 5 лет назад
The fan war between army's and super m fans was ridiculous. It was laughable to be honest and that buzzfeed article was very disrespectful. The group itself is talented and I am going to support them because the members work really hard.
@sageholland2970
@sageholland2970 5 лет назад
Intellectual Humour their not real “army’s”
@kc8724
@kc8724 5 лет назад
Intellectual Humour I hate how armys don’t want to admit that it was biased when I called them out on twitter ppl called me a fake army🤦‍♀️
@tyle-zi2vt
@tyle-zi2vt 5 лет назад
What could I say? Armies are bunch of hypocrite kids.
@user-jx3fz6gz5r
@user-jx3fz6gz5r 5 лет назад
the buzzfeed article didnt lie tho
@viak3859
@viak3859 5 лет назад
You do know that most of the fandoms were against the idea of superm right? Including nct and exo ones. All this fanwars shit is because of those articles and fans saying 'Bts is over' 'we are replacing bts'. I agree there are a lot of immature fans but which Fandom doesn't have them. Let's be kind to each other. These fanwars are stupid and really annoy me. If you don't like superm go hate SM they were the ones who started it with all that avenger shit. If you hate an ARMY just hate that single ARMY and not the entire fanbase. Hating Bts because of this is just plain dumb. I hope you guys understand
@ioslugs
@ioslugs 5 лет назад
*_ok Sm is like really dumb, so they basically create this group directed to the western market in hopes of breaking it so they chose the popular members of their male groups(Taemin,Kai, baekhyun,mark,ten,Taeyong,and Lucas) so if it's directed to the western market why not have an American idol aka Johnny and why not give other members a chance to show their talent,we already know that mark, Kai, Baekhyun,and Taeyong are being overworked,so SM why not give other members a chance they literally have four units with 21 members and is focusing mostly on two hmmmm… they only created SuperM to make more money knowing they have groups and to try and break in the western market_* Edit: _jopping is actually a good song_ Edit #2: _congrats to their achievements_
@temitayoadebanjo707
@temitayoadebanjo707 5 лет назад
I was hella disappointed when Johnny wasn’t there. Like wow. SM really need to represent some of their other artists.
@ioslugs
@ioslugs 5 лет назад
@@temitayoadebanjo707 fr
@kyooongie
@kyooongie 5 лет назад
not just mark and taeyong, but also baekhyun and kai
@SunlightBeauty
@SunlightBeauty 5 лет назад
Y'all should already know that SM has to choose marketable members and Johnny sadly isn't as popular. SM wanted their debut to be fool proof so he went with the safest and most popular idols. It's about business at the end of the day.
@james-ht3ci
@james-ht3ci 5 лет назад
@@SunlightBeauty stan u bc ur comments are telling the blunt truth !!!
@startingdrama7948
@startingdrama7948 5 лет назад
Yo, their side track, No Manners is pretty awesome. Literally.
@honeyv540
@honeyv540 4 года назад
I like it better than "Jopping".
@YACABE
@YACABE 4 года назад
Best one in their album imo
@lowhead_bread
@lowhead_bread 4 года назад
yess no manners and super car are lit
@tb9441
@tb9441 5 лет назад
9/10 of the top 10 in the bb chart used bundling. But ofc it was only superm that was attacked for it
@elaineharris2315
@elaineharris2315 5 лет назад
Army’s have been complaining about bundling for a long time, way before idea of SuperM was even mentioned. All the billboard’s response article did was admit that SM/Capitol knew how to game the system, as billboard allow these types of “marketing strategies” they are hardly going to criticise there use as it would call into question the validity of the Billboard’s charts system. Bundling is just the western equivalent of Sajaegi and in the past certain SM fandoms have always been the loudest at accusing other companies of it, which now makes them look like hypocrites.
@fostane
@fostane 4 года назад
Right? We've been complaining about western artists trying to come and compare numbers with bundles, but other kpop fans tend to ignore that because it didn't involve other kpop groups so they weren't really involved or cared much for Billboard. Of course it's gonna get more vicious between two kpop fandoms than between ARMYs and Jonas Brothers fans (like, duh, it's always like that for anything with kpop) and of course western media doesn't have much of a problem in calling out and creating controversies if it's about kpop but they wouldn't write the same articles about Taylor Swift sales. 👏 *We've been complaining about Billboard's rules even before SM announced a supergroup.* 👏 (And we're already complaining about the new 2020 rules cause they're still pretty much shit btw, but go ahead and ignore it again until it's gonna be a kpop vs kpop fanwar again ig.)
@w.iroses
@w.iroses 5 лет назад
They debuted at number 1 I’m so happy for them but tho I feel like there is a lot of success they didn’t even get to go to billboard hot 100. Makes no sense to me since summer walker who got number 2 while SuperM got number 1 she had 7 new entries on billboard hot 100. I wish SuperM the best but I’m not gonna lie I was pressed ofc they are talented but that Summer Walker album was fire. When I said it doesn’t make sense to me what I mean is that summer walker had her songs charting billboard 100 while even though SuperM was number 1 on albums the actual title track wasn’t on the billboard 100. What I’m saying is they have a good strategy they have good talent but even tho their debut was a success it was not as a success as I think SM was hoping for.
@aalliyhasampson3391
@aalliyhasampson3391 5 лет назад
THATS WHAT WESTERN FANS R MAD ABOUT CUZ SUMMER GOT WAY MORE STREAMS THAN SUPER M THATS Y MOST PPL R PISSED
@Yoonginology
@Yoonginology 5 лет назад
but SuperM had way more physical sales so it makes sense.
@sophisticatedtwat9160
@sophisticatedtwat9160 5 лет назад
The amount of physical sales Summer Walker had can not even be compared to Super M's
@DaniGarland17
@DaniGarland17 5 лет назад
Physical albums are weighed more heavily on the charts. You need a lot of streams (over 1000 i think) just to equal 1 physical album. Which is fair since one you have to buy and the other is free.
@May-we3fh
@May-we3fh 5 лет назад
In my opinion all SM did by creating loads of bundles to get SuperM the top spot on billboard 200 was piss off Summer Walker fans and turn potential future fans against SuperM. It's a good achievement but in a sense it was meaningless as the backlash they got because of how they achieved it basically cancelled out the significance of the achievement itself
@plushy2865
@plushy2865 5 лет назад
First time I heard jopping I fell in love with it. Anyone else?
@Sullly
@Sullly 5 лет назад
Me. I feel like that's an unpopular opinion, but I actually liked it...
@plushy2865
@plushy2865 5 лет назад
Ring Ding Don't true💖💖
@tb9441
@tb9441 5 лет назад
I did too! And I'm not even sick of it yet, i listen many times daily haha!
@epiphanyrose8150
@epiphanyrose8150 5 лет назад
For me it was the 3rd time but it’s a bop ☺️
@moonchild5807
@moonchild5807 4 года назад
Plushy makes cracky • I didn’t. I’m 30 y.o and feels like the song wasn’t for me 😅
@ikhsansyahrul811
@ikhsansyahrul811 5 лет назад
Compared to buying physical albums or attending concerts streaming gives them almost no money. Bravo SuperM!
@lowhead_bread
@lowhead_bread 4 года назад
that's what people forgot about SM
@acurarichards4462
@acurarichards4462 5 лет назад
Love your videos 🖤🖤 Personally I loved SuperM's debut🤷🏾‍♀️ Ten is my bias and I'll continue to support him and the rest of the members ♥️✨
@oshawot
@oshawot 5 лет назад
super m itself: 🥰 the reasoning behind the formation: 🧐
@plushy2865
@plushy2865 5 лет назад
I’m so incredibly proud of super m.
@mishishah748
@mishishah748 5 лет назад
I can relate...😍😍
@Areebvh
@Areebvh 5 лет назад
I wanna shove this video outta every superM anti. They got the no. 1 fair and square periodt just say you are jealous and insecure and move on
@chen_a5561
@chen_a5561 5 лет назад
bundling isnt fair and square
@blinkonceifyoureanexo-l1102
@blinkonceifyoureanexo-l1102 5 лет назад
@@chen_a5561 Then why Billboard count them?
@chen_a5561
@chen_a5561 5 лет назад
@@blinkonceifyoureanexo-l1102 because they counted merch as album value
@blinkonceifyoureanexo-l1102
@blinkonceifyoureanexo-l1102 5 лет назад
@@chen_a5561If it wasn't fair and square would they do that? Or can you do Billboard's job better than them?
@chen_a5561
@chen_a5561 5 лет назад
@@blinkonceifyoureanexo-l1102 how about billboard stop counting cheap tactics to count as album sales?
@piliredondo2661
@piliredondo2661 5 лет назад
To those that are saying that SuperM isn’t organic, that it’s fabricated, ALL Kpop groups are put together by their companies: ALL OF THEM. But there are a few things about these artists that everyone should know. EXO ran to the the main stage and cried together with the members when SHINee won their Artist of the Year Daesang. Kai and Taemin hugged and cried together that day: they trained together since they were kids, and have been best friends to this day, in spite of their busy schedules. Mark, Taeyong and Ten are together since their SM Rookies days, and debuted together as NCT U, and have looked up to Kai, Taemin and Baekhyun, their admired seniors. Lucas and Ten have spent a lot of fun times with Mark and NCT Dream: Lucas covered for Mark when the latter wasn’t able to attend the SM Town concert in Dubai due to NCT 127’s promotions, and Ten was in charge of the group since they were all minors and Taeyong wasn’t able to attend either for the same reason as Mark. These artist aren’t strangers, and have shared some history as SM artists: they are family. They were trained by the same people. The younger ones trained using their seniors’ music, and the older groups have invited the younger ones to share the stage with them for award shows and tv shows wins. And finally, Kai and Taemin posted the very same pic in both their IG accounts to celebrate that, after being there for each other through the best and the worst times, they can finally share the stage as members of the same group. I wish SuperM all the best in this interesting and challenging project.
@berrylipton5219
@berrylipton5219 5 лет назад
Pili Redondo yeah I fill like people not only realize that these guys are all close but also kpop as a whole isn’t really all about the money and manufacturing by companies. i see it as a big collaborated effort by mainly artist and creatives. the idols as passionate performers , the choreographers coming up with more and more creative and innovative dances, then stylist who come up the clothes that not only look cool but also have of fit an certain concept every comeback, then music video directors that come up with some of the most beautiful looking music videos, and the album designers who can make some of the coolest looking logos and album designs and all these thing have to be cohesive and fit together, people need to appreciate the effort and passion behind an group. And these artist don’t just make and creat groups for the solo purpose of making money. A lot of times jyp sm and yg have all said that their Main goal s the spread the hallyu wave ,which means Korea culture wave ,and they take a lot of pride in that. being a tiny country in the world and having all their troubles with North Korea this is such an accomplishment as an country.
@May-we3fh
@May-we3fh 5 лет назад
It's not about their relationships being organic but their growth
@myraclesname
@myraclesname 5 лет назад
Oh my God finally someone said that
@whyme2427
@whyme2427 5 лет назад
When we say organic it means growth with fans not relationship .....
@piliredondo2661
@piliredondo2661 5 лет назад
Growth with the fans? What? They aren't unknown people, and they're a collaboration group. I think y'all are a bit confused about what this group is about. They have a loyal fanbase already.
@cin6964
@cin6964 5 лет назад
I’m an army and I stan superm. There’s so many army’s that stan them. NOT ALL army’s are toxic like that so please stop hating on them. (This is towards the ppl in the comments hating on army’s
@ariana4604
@ariana4604 5 лет назад
I love that SuperM is a thing. I was never into all of the groups devotedly but this group makes me want to be invested in all of the groups in which each member comes from. I don't like SM at all but I won't hate on a group just because of their entertainment label. Edit: Also as an ARMY, I am deeply disappointed in the fandom for saying such ridiculous things.
@georgezakhia125
@georgezakhia125 5 лет назад
I personally just think that Jopping was a bad song because the lyrics made me cringe like no one's business
@am-gg9vs
@am-gg9vs 5 лет назад
I love the group and it's just so fun
@sasutomato
@sasutomato 5 лет назад
Thanks for this video. I got attacked so badly for liking this group and also not being upset about them getting #1. I think all this anger is ridiculous. I didn't ask for SuperM but I appreciate it. This is the first time I been able to buy albums so cheaply . Get Ten's autograph and just get to finally after years of waiting seeing Kai and Taemin together for a project. Honestly if you dont like GO LISTEN TO SOMEONE ELSE. THERE ARE LIKE AN INSANE AMOUNT OF OTHER BOY GROUPS OUT THERE. Like it makes no sense to me why anyone would focus all their energy on a group they don't like.
@hobi_mylove
@hobi_mylove 5 лет назад
You know what the problem is? SM still brands them as idols, as products. they did All the bundles and pathetic promotions (they were almost begging people to buy and stream I felt sad tbh) because SM is so desperate to remain relevant and win money. They only care about superficial fame and it shows, people notice. I hate to compare but BTS have branded themselves as artists. They don’t say _look at my looks, look at my dances and bright colors_ Their approach is more like _"hey listen to my music, we are spreading this message. Care to join us?"_ Honestly, this can apply to anyone but, I see streaming and buying different albums is a more valid strategy than bundles. Because it's the fandom the ones working to help the idols, not their desperate company. If SM had promoted super m as nothing but a harmless, fun project for the fans to enjoy I would’ve been sooo exited. Now on an even more irrelevant opinion, I didn’t like their brand design at all. Too black and boring, I also didn’t like the coloring on some parts of the jopping video. Buut that's just my taste.
@LM-ix7pk
@LM-ix7pk 5 лет назад
i think superm is great idea but i just wish their songs weren’t just 90% english. it’s like i’m just listening to western pop. the reason why me and many other kpop fans love kpop is because it is foreign and unique, unlike we have ever seen before. when groups just start for the american market, it doesn’t really feel the same. but i wish nothing but the best for superm and the members.
@peachxtaehyung
@peachxtaehyung 5 лет назад
Well it was targeted to the American market so yeah of course its gonna be majority english lol. Also i have problem with listening to kpop groups english songs in fact monsta x who do u love is one of my faves by them!
@aseuto4206
@aseuto4206 5 лет назад
i mean, only jopping was 90 percent english... the other songs were mainly korean. Jopping was a title so it's understandable but literally every other song they released were mostly korean so i don't get it but okay.
@peachxtaehyung
@peachxtaehyung 5 лет назад
@@aseuto4206 exactly I don't get what is upsetting or whatever about it. Its literally only jopping
@aseuto4206
@aseuto4206 5 лет назад
@@peachxtaehyung maybe because people who say it has only listened to jopping and assumed every song is the same because of english titles. (:
@SunlightBeauty
@SunlightBeauty 5 лет назад
@@aseuto4206 I mean, I'm questioning if any of these people actually listened to the ALBUM and not just watched the MV.
@tamia6991
@tamia6991 5 лет назад
In my opinion the song is awful
@Areebvh
@Areebvh 5 лет назад
The album was gold... Honestly did you hear Baekhyun and taemin's vocals in 2 fast
@tb9441
@tb9441 5 лет назад
Bro the song slaps imo I'm still not sick of it (I'm a fan of movie soundtracks and rock instrumentation, plus the raps were lit) and the album is pure fire 2fast and No Manners have insane vocals, super Car is super badass and its raps are lit, and I Cant Stand the Rain is so unique with traditional asian instrumental but the chorus features beautiful angelic vocals
@tamia6991
@tamia6991 5 лет назад
@@tb9441 For you the song slaps hard ,but for me its just another song from sm that i get the same vibe with exo and nct its just like all their other songs ,and i was talking about jopping alone
@tb9441
@tb9441 5 лет назад
@@tamia6991 i know, i said "imo" which stands for "in my opinion"
@kicakis
@kicakis 5 лет назад
I stan the Band That Slays exactly and NCT and exo have some of the best discographies in all of kpop so idk what you meant by that sis 😍
@splendore.ngrandeur3599
@splendore.ngrandeur3599 5 лет назад
ARMY'S aren't all a pack of hateful insecure people I hope people would Focus on individuals as opposed to the fandom as a whole..
@lowhead_bread
@lowhead_bread 4 года назад
that's why if i'm calling a huge amount toxic fans in a fandom i would probably just call them *toxic (fandom name)*
@brainfreeze7549
@brainfreeze7549 5 лет назад
Whenever someone "becomes as popular as bts" people start attacking the competition and try bring them down because bts has top be on top, but guess what one day other groups will be even more successful and bigger than any existing current group and thats just how things are
@poopoopants7904
@poopoopants7904 4 года назад
brain freeze thank youuu. someone is actually smart in this comment section
@lynnjenkins7373
@lynnjenkins7373 5 лет назад
The entertainment/music industry is a brutal business. In my opinion SM is coming to the forefront in a smart move with multi level strategies showcasing SM’s top artists while shining a light on the best of KPop. Superm’s artists are undeniably talented; each in their own right. Awesome in performance. If you don’t like them ,for whatever reason, don’t get involved by submitting baseless comments that hurt people. These guys aren’t trying to take over or dominate your world. I am looking forward to their upcoming Atlanta Ga. concert!
@QOP13
@QOP13 5 лет назад
Not even paying attention but I seen army on Twitter talk about buying huge lots of bts albums to make sure bts wins. In truth fans don’t benefit from the sales just the artists so why waste your time fighting about someone else success.
@eldeleonjr77
@eldeleonjr77 4 года назад
Merch is NOT music !!!!! SuperM is NOT organic ...PERIOD ! I prefer the members stay in their original groups.
@Tomisnormal
@Tomisnormal 5 лет назад
Still confused as to why Johnny, an actual American and one of the most loved members of NCT, was not in SuperM. Johnny's not even my bias but it's kinda obvious. Also why have Lucas in the group if you're not gonna give him lines. "But he's a dancer" then give him centre choreography. "But he's a visual" then give him screentime. I hate seeing him being put to the back.
@leehoo9783
@leehoo9783 4 года назад
Johnny is not that popular compared to other members like taeyong, mark or even jaehyun. That's why they didn't add him.
@Tomisnormal
@Tomisnormal 4 года назад
@@leehoo9783 it's still supposed the be a group specifically catered to an American audience, it would make more sence to have American members. Baffles me that Jaehyun isn't a member too, i'd argue that he's the most popular member in 127, especially internationally
@dalnoraes
@dalnoraes 5 лет назад
I have nothing against SuperM, I think it's great that they're so successful. I'm a bit iffy on the reason for their formation and the fact that SM chose literally the most overworked idols in their respective groups to do so too, especially since they literally have an entire basement full of eager, talented trainees ready to debut. I do hope they succeed even further though, they deserve it!
@ipromisethatserendipityisa9656
The cheating part has little to do with their 60+ bundles. The CHEATING part is when SM facilitated overseas orders for their albums. SM took overseas orders, ordered it from US sellers, had it delivered to SM warehouse in the US, and then SM shipped it overseas. They did not release the album simultaneously anywhere (except Japan), not even in Korea where most fans are, because they wanted the overseas fans to order it from the US though online means. Billboard is for US consumption ONLY and its very unfair for others billboard artists that week.
@christabuki5459
@christabuki5459 5 лет назад
People really forget that kpop isn’t that deep and that at the end of the day we just wanna support the groups we like in peace. Also how y’all gon’ yell that your faves paved the way, but won’t let other groups use that way?
@jocelyn9744
@jocelyn9744 5 лет назад
@RU-vidr My dear co Army, don't forget that American celebrities use that same method too to get on Billboard, so of SuperM use that strategy, it's not cheating, it's just a smart and faster way to get to the top, pls consider this 💜
@mirasobad9799
@mirasobad9799 4 года назад
RU-vidr wrong without big bang there would never be a bts
@mirasobad9799
@mirasobad9799 4 года назад
Lauren C I’m talking about bts not kpop as a whole 🤦🏾‍♀️
@mirasobad9799
@mirasobad9799 4 года назад
Lauren C nah not at all
@Mariii.iiii19
@Mariii.iiii19 3 года назад
@@mirasobad9799 girl I- what? that don't even make sense wtf does bigbang have to do with bts ?
@lg4913
@lg4913 5 лет назад
I'm a loyal supporter of one group ever since I got into kpop (5hinee until the end) so when SuperM was announced I actually felt uneasy since I've only just supported Shinee and all it's members but now I have to support SuperM as well because of Taemin. It was like "How can I love this group if I only know one member" -- tbh I am still glad that Taemin was a part of this since he won't be much as lonely anymore -- as time went on, I actually have grown to like Baekhyun, Kai, Mark, Taeyong, Ten and Lucas and I ended up actually supporting another group! This made me grow an interest in EXO, NCT and WayV as well as other groups in SM like Super Junior. I might as well become an sm stan now
@hoanhuynh7059
@hoanhuynh7059 4 года назад
How can people call that’s not manufactured when all of a sudden this group is formed? SM sees how successful BTS is and want a part it. They specifically made songs to target America audiences.
@poopoopants7904
@poopoopants7904 4 года назад
you’re both hypocrites. if bts “paved the way” what’s the fucking point if you stupid armies wont let any other group walk on it. it defeats the purpose entirely. just because a group is promoting in america doesn’t mean they are copying bts. news flash but bts didn’t invent promoting in america rain, wondergirls, suju, big bang, amog others have.
@peachxtaehyung
@peachxtaehyung 5 лет назад
7:10 no its not just superm... People had shit to say about monsta x and bts also so yeah. Also please do not name any specific fandom that is causing trouble. That's just gonna lead to more hate to that fandom smh
@jocelyn9744
@jocelyn9744 5 лет назад
Always landong on Armys, sure is not the first time sadly 🤦‍♀️
@aziul8
@aziul8 5 лет назад
This is a very biased opinion gotta be honest
@sourcandy2926
@sourcandy2926 5 лет назад
I agree lol
@armybebe6622
@armybebe6622 4 года назад
Lou 10000000%
@mariahv7390
@mariahv7390 4 года назад
How ?
@veroniquenguyen2797
@veroniquenguyen2797 5 лет назад
as a fan/stan of both BTS, EXO, NCT, and SHINEE, i honestly think the fanwars between ARMYS and SUPER M fans are ridiculous, be proud that kpop is being reached all over the world. kpop isn’t just BTS or just any group, and America is able to see a new group of it that it somewhat interesting and cool. BTS doesn’t always need to be #1 in order to be legendary and incredible artists and I think sometimes in kpop this whole WE MUST BE #1 OR ELSE WE’RE THE WORST mindset is absolutely terrible. It just creates petty drama and its dumb. Also as much as I’m against Super M and don’t agree with the lineup because some members are honestly being overworked and I’m worried for their health and also I feel like SM is doing this just for a money grab instead of doing better with their groups and promoting them better and also should focus on TAKING BETTER CARE OF THE EXISTING GROUPS AND ARTISTS AND MAKING SURE THEY’RE OKAY, I guess Super M is introducing kpop to people really well, I mean alot of the song is English so it isn’t as “foreign” to people and also this is a really cool interesting concept for a group. Anyways, hope them the best and they’re very successful.
@ajl2845
@ajl2845 5 лет назад
I am an army. I love BTS like no other. For First the time ever, I am actually excited about what Super M has to offer. They are extremely talented & handsome 😍 I honestly hope that they do well. I hope to see their bond grow as a team so that the fans can also grow with them. They work just as hard and deserve the best. I don't like seeing fans argue, I hope that we can all just get along and not hurt each other with negative words 😩☹
@wigbig6192
@wigbig6192 5 лет назад
Aren't armys the ones who say bts surpass the kpop genre? Why do they care if a kpop group does well lmfao
@sageholland2970
@sageholland2970 5 лет назад
WIG BIG 1. BTS is surpass the kpop genre no doubt 2. Those aren’t “army’s
@wigbig6192
@wigbig6192 5 лет назад
@@sageholland2970 shut the fuck up
@xjy8549
@xjy8549 5 лет назад
How is kpop a genre tho
@raaaaaaa677
@raaaaaaa677 5 лет назад
Kpop is not even a genre. Stop making up shit
@devindersingh6953
@devindersingh6953 5 лет назад
@@wigbig6192 no u
@bzvdkanby3pk
@bzvdkanby3pk 5 лет назад
As long as Kai still in there, I will support
@jorgen9241
@jorgen9241 5 лет назад
some people dont understand that superm has 3 different fandoms. that's why they're so powerful
@naturalbornbasterds
@naturalbornbasterds 5 лет назад
people need to stop caring about youtube views,it doesnt matter,digital downloads,spotify,itunes,etc streaming and buying is important,and most importantly,physical sales. im ok about SuperM,but if BTS was going through this situation,toxic ARMYs would defend them,this is coming from an ARMY itself.
@MarianahsTrenchGal1
@MarianahsTrenchGal1 5 лет назад
Ok even though I don't stan any of the groups you're into, I usually like watching your content because I like your insight on things and usually you seem to have the facts straight. But there were so many things you either got wrong or didn't take into account that I couldn't just ignore it: 1. ARMYs have been calling out artists for bundling LONG before SuperM did it. I started seeing it on my tl when the Jonas Brothers did their bundles (we literally nicknamed them the Bundle Bros), and I've seen it every time since. 2. While we had already been calling out bundling for a while, a lot of people found it absolutely insane how much SM was pushing it. The 60+ versions was the part that really got to people, like that's pushing it way too far. 3. Another thing that looked super suspicious was the fact that the day before the Hit's Daily Double and Billboard posted their charts, Rolling Stone posted theirs. It said that Summer Walker was #1 with 110K sales. The reason why this was suspicious is because HDD pulls their data from the same place that Rolling Stone does, so SuperM would've had to pull more than 110K out of their ass. We now know that she debuted with 150K sales at #2, which makes that look even more suspicious. So from an outside perspective, it looked like SM and Capitol were doing mediaplay. 4. Idk who's feeding you lies but neither Ikran nor Ellie ever hated on SuperM. They are both ARMYs, but all they've ever retweeted about them were people talking about stats and info on them (such as the screenshots people were spreading around of the distributor they were buying from saying that the album sales from Korea would still count on the billboard 200). They thought that's what was going on based on their research, they reported it, and they updated the article when they got info that said otherwise. 5. No other kpop group has popped off in the US market yet 6. There literally hasn't been any other situation where ARMYs were coming after a group for promoting in the US. 7. The reason ARMYs were saying that they didn't deserve it and that they were undoing all the hard work BTS did is BECAUSE of the cheating. Locals are going to look at this whole situation and go back to questioning the legitimacy of any kpop groups that may try to break into the US market. 8. The people who said they were an embarrassment were random knetz, not ARMYs. ARMYs started spreading it around after knetz were found saying it on naver. 9. Literally nobody thinks there should only be 1 big kpop group in the west other than maybe rich white people in the Western music industry. 10. Nobody was even scrambling to find a reason to de-legitimize them, we found out about the 60+ bundle thing days before the Billboard 200 chart dropped and my tl was on fire. 11. Again, ARMYs have been calling out this behaviour at LEAST since late April/early May when the Jonas Brothers were doing it. It wasn't to this extent because they didn't have 60+ bundles, but people were saying things like, "damn what a sad state the music industry has become, it's not even about the music anymore." 12. Another reason ARMY are mad is because SM was literally branding them as "the next BTS" in the beginning
@exoerina_kaigoms8566
@exoerina_kaigoms8566 5 лет назад
well, when we didnt like something or somebody then negative thought will always come nomatter what they do it will look bad on us..thats what haters feel for super m.. Note : dont worry, the more haters the more superm will jopping higher🤣
@whehwr
@whehwr 5 лет назад
objectively speaking, jopping is bad and their bb #1 is valid but still shady with sm’s ‘ALL sales count for billboard’ that was in their instagram bio and their website 🤔 their no 1 is meaningless anyway
@vip4life660
@vip4life660 5 лет назад
I beg to differ. It was all strategy, and Billboard has counter measures in place to track any sales that are not made in the U.S. Their win was not meaningless.
@whehwr
@whehwr 5 лет назад
Celine G billboard don’t make their methods public so I’m making my judgement off what I’ve seen SM say/do. Also their no 1 is pretty meaningless since it doesn’t translate to recognition/ticket sales/streams, SM wanted to say they got a ‘debut album on bb 200’ and they got it, good for them
@caspiiaa9531
@caspiiaa9531 5 лет назад
Their win is pretty meaningful if we're talking about the amount of physical albums sold. I mean billboard was pretty surprised by it that they wrote this statement on it: “Just when everyone tells you young people don’t listen to albums and they certainly don’t buy albums, a clever marketing team who knows how to appeal to a core fan base proves them wrong,” Its meaningful because in an age where buying albums have been on the decline in the US for years, SuperM charting high on billboard with mostly album sales proved a lot of people wrong. Also what the person above said was correct. Only US sales counted on Billboard which means people only with a US zip code albums counted.
@whehwr
@whehwr 5 лет назад
Confused Pupper it doesn’t take much to get a favourable article written by billboard. Also I know how billboard sales work thank you :) that doesn’t mean that albums can’t be bought from a registered US dealer and then shipped to korea to be sold there. I’m curious to see what superm will do next
@thesnipped713
@thesnipped713 4 года назад
superm never be like BTS positions. ever.
@lxlxxl6217
@lxlxxl6217 4 года назад
Kpop stans are so goddamn annoying tho imma be honest 🤧🤚 i love Kpop, support a great deal of groups but y’all will never see me calling myself a kpoppie. Why y’all think everyone outside hates us? Cus we make big deals outta nothing and don’t focus on things that’re important (IE THE FACT THAT MORE THAN 5 MEMBERS HAVE LEFT THEIR GROUP THIS YEAR AND A WHOLE ANGEL DIED) but okay let’s argue about money hungry SM, something wbk for the past decade 🙄
@armybebe6622
@armybebe6622 4 года назад
SuperM will never be the BTS Lee Soo-Man wants them to be. Doesn’t mean they’re terrible. I like the members and the songs are fine but they will never ever be the BTS Soo-man is obviously trying to get them to be like.
@poopoopants7904
@poopoopants7904 4 года назад
y’all are the biggest hypocrites. y’all claim bts paved the way but you won’t let any other group walk on it. just because a group is promoting in america doesn’t mean they are copying bts. bts wasn’t the first to promote in america. stop being salty because bts wasn’t on top
@bedroo1004
@bedroo1004 5 лет назад
The argument is that those sales are not coming from u.s fans 😂😂😂 it’s bought by non u.s fans and shipped from the u.s to overseas fans 😂 SM and Capitol are faking a u.s hype that does not exist in the first place. Aint no body gonna talk about yall if it was done fairly. Stop comparing it to other u.s artist that are doing it with a legit u.s fanbase. 🙂🥾 Yall are so desperate for western validation that yall don’t see whats wrong here 🤣 Edit: there is evidence by UR OWN FANS posting emails from SM/Capitol that confirmed the sales from OVERSEAS counts cuz it’s shipped from the U.S!!!! And yall think it’s fine ???? NO ONE does that so stop comparing ur bundling method to other u.s artist... 🤦🏻‍♀️
@tb9441
@tb9441 5 лет назад
The buzzfeed article that was from actually put a correction, stating that only US sales counted towards the charts, as billboard themselves spoke out about it. The article misinformed the public, citing a Forbes article which actually never said that And about SM...maybe it was their way of tricking international fans into buying. Either way, billboard themselves have denied it. Capitol Records is in charge of US distribution and marketing not SM
@bedroo1004
@bedroo1004 5 лет назад
Tasneem _ they need to prove that only u.s sales were counted. Yall talking wont change anything really since SM/Capitol are targeting new listeners/fans. (Not existing fans) Any one who checks the issue will see a big issue specially when there is so much evidence proving BY YOUR OWN COMPANY AND FANS that overseas sales count. 🤦🏻‍♀️ + charting in one chart and LITERALLY NO WHERE ELSE is weird as heck ... it proves that something fishy was happening 🤦🏻‍♀️
@tb9441
@tb9441 5 лет назад
@@bedroo1004 "retailers remove non-US purchases from sales reports before submitting numbers to Nielsen Music to be reviewed for Billboard sales charts."
@bedroo1004
@bedroo1004 5 лет назад
@@tb9441 that won't make sense since the difference between WW and U.S sales is not big. and according to receipts that I saw, Non u.s sales from Korean and Chinese fans were really high if I remember correctly it was more than 30K or 60K ??
@jurneejones5348
@jurneejones5348 5 лет назад
@@bedroo1004 The billboard put out an article explaining how they counted, if you feel as though they are lying why don't you email them yourself.
@kiyokochanable
@kiyokochanable 5 лет назад
.People wanna find anything to get mad and start drama for no reason plus acting like it's their first time in K-Pop or knowing how marketing in general works. Western, Korean anywhere, it's everywhere the same, they create stuff to be us high as possible, there's strategies to get things in life. And as you said, it's like it's only allowed to have 1 big/huge group/artist on the top when it can be more than one. Happens in western too, in any area they wanna create arguments between two celebrities to make them fight for the #1 spot instead of letting both be #1 and work together to create something massive. Then they get surprise when people get into depression, anxiety and suicide thoughts. #Disgusting
@lg4913
@lg4913 5 лет назад
If you have watched "SuperM: The Beginning" it shows that Capitol themselves reached out to SM. Capitol already has artists all around the world but they were still missing something and that is korean artists. So Capitol reached out to SM to discuss that they want to partner with them. I think the reason why SuperM was made by picking out members from already existing groups is because if SM were to choose their trainees to *suddenly* get debuted in America, it would be a dumb move considering that the trainees has little to no experience yet.
@sorintas
@sorintas 5 лет назад
how are there 10 likes already,,,,
@nurshuhada4736
@nurshuhada4736 5 лет назад
ohhhhhhh stupid peopleeee...ohhhhh stupid people......why you need too compare to others kpop....you should congrets people...they are no 1 on billboard 200 album chart....even if it's not your style....they have fan...ARMY let them be....as for ARMY myself i don't even see this as a negative way....mybe some of ARMY are but some of it don't really care......but the only thing that i hate and don't agree is they said they are the avenger of kpop....hello hello....thre are still BIGBANG,BTS,BLACKPINK and other popular kpop...don't make a statement that make people hate your group....
@arinaarinza
@arinaarinza 5 лет назад
PEOPLE NEED TO CHILL!! SuperM is just a clever way to promote the members and their groups all at once in the US and gain new fans. Their main focus is still going to be on their original groups and solos. It benefits everyone. I, for example has finally gotten into NCT because of SuperM. Also they're not going to dethrone or replace BTS or whatever, that's silly, they're comletely different, so just chill armys! If you don't like them just ignore them, they're not a threat to you
@marwaelmi6443
@marwaelmi6443 4 года назад
I’m an Army and I don’t give af if they charted. I like the song but I really don’t care about all of the charting and all that. Some Army’s are so triggered by this. Please don’t and just relax on twitter lol.
@bbvistas7596
@bbvistas7596 5 лет назад
I do not know an ARMY that does not like at least one or all members in SuperM. The problem is SM Entertainment making light of BTS' legitimate hard fought chart climb to recognition to just pay SuperM's way to recognition. It looks filthy, and the veterans in the US industry can smell the crap they are shoveling. Handing people checks does not make anyone like their music. If it was a hit, it would be streaming high above their record sales. It was a miss. I never heard it even mentioned on radio. Good luck with that.
@chasebarber10
@chasebarber10 4 года назад
I'm confused by SuperM as in they are being treated like a brand new fully fleshed out group rather than another subgroup when they are already part of fully fleshed out groups. Each member has to do the work of at least 2 or more people. SM can still make money without being lazy. Lazy as in instead of working on the stuff they lack and supporting groups and members that are not being paid attention to, they overwork and put attention on noble gas members of already established and popular groups. I'm glad the members of SuperM seem to be making the best out of the situation and do their job wonderfully, but I still am against the creation of SuperM as a whole, not against the members themselves. If it was treated as more of a temporary and seasonal subgroup like Triple H was for instance I wouldn't be as concerned. Also who tf is out here making the "Western" plans bc they keep failing.
@AmiAki
@AmiAki 4 года назад
Most locals are probably laughing at superm like JOPPING was so cringy
@youtubee9209
@youtubee9209 5 лет назад
I dont care about them getting successful, but i dont like that alot of kpop entertainment companies are now aiming for North American market soo much that the music now has more english than korean. Thats what’s bothering me tbh i dont like that. And thats why i dont like SuperM because the song is 80% english. And alot of other groups are starting to do that too.
@jq4909
@jq4909 4 года назад
This isnt bout how bts took 4yrs to achieve this thing. Do yall actually think armys r so pressed bout this thing just because they outsold bts then no. We r taking a step for all artists who worked hard to achieve sth only to be disregarded by ppl who took advantage of sth for their own benefit/greed. This is to bring back a part of humanity even if its small & the fact that yall dont give a fuck or say its nothing just bcause others do it is not helping. Yall r just letting ppl satisfy their own greed & yall dont care cause yall havent been in a situation like this.
@rubylewis3124
@rubylewis3124 5 лет назад
Idc if you hate the group or the idea of the group, we really should not hate on the boys they’re just doing what they’re told and doing their job! Your problem is with sm not the boys.
@starrywoo
@starrywoo 4 года назад
army will shut down ANYONE that follows BTS footsteps in the U.S.. why would you keep stating that BTS paved the way when you don't even let other artists/groups follow the same road?? armys were so quick to bash superm and superm Stans when it had nothing to do with armys. think it's really hypocritical of them ngl.
@ma.jolinaquicoy6262
@ma.jolinaquicoy6262 5 лет назад
Exceeded everyone's expectation?????????????? Well they did great, but excuse me?? Exceeded?? Really???? Maybe for you
@temitayoadebanjo707
@temitayoadebanjo707 5 лет назад
I kinda have mixed opinions on SuperM. The Avengers of Kpop was a stretch and no one asked for that. I think that’s why some people were so negative at the beginning of it cause that was just a bit big headed. Some of the songs on the album were actually really good and they banged others not as much. Like it’s a good well rounded group on paper and on stage. In my opinion Mark, Taemin and Kai did well and shone in the group. I’m upset tho cause they did Lucas and Ten dirty. All this twitter fan base wars are getting tiring. It’s really sad when you enjoy a group but they’re constantly being shat on and then another fan group you identify which is knocking them down. It’s really SM making money and we all know that but at the end of the day but if the quality is the same (SM standard doesn’t lack) then is there really much to complain about.
@tb9441
@tb9441 5 лет назад
The Avengers concept isnt to be bragging, it's because the members come from different groups to come together (like the avengers) it's not their fault you understood it as bragging
@SunlightBeauty
@SunlightBeauty 5 лет назад
@@tb9441 I thought that people would at least put it in that perspective but they instead interpreted it in a bitter mindset. It's not about being the best, it's about the team up. Not all of the Avengers are the most powerful in the MCU. It's the team up that makes them special.
@temitayoadebanjo707
@temitayoadebanjo707 5 лет назад
Tasneem _ I didn’t really didn’t think of it that way like it’s a good example of a team. But also calling themselves Avengers of Kpop makes people think that the industry needed saving or something like that.
@aanzwiee
@aanzwiee 3 года назад
tbh im so tired of people hating on superm, of course i dont support sm at all and overworking the members is a problem but i really like the concept of superm and their songs, all the members are working hard for it and they have to get the credit so please stop the disbandment tags,the members arent unhappy bout this project, so why are the toxic fans so upset bout it? i really cant take hate:(
@carolynfranklin4865
@carolynfranklin4865 5 лет назад
Honey if you don't see nothing wrong check the billboard chart this week. Billboard is treating Superm like RU-vid treated that India rapper .Hoping they will go away and people forget. A rapper from India broke RU-vid views but he cheated with ads. RU-vid has yet to say this guy won ,they put out a statement no more ads .And pray this guy would go away so public could stop bugging them. Well billboard made there statement about Superm one week later ,They move no.2 that people said Superm cheated (Summer Walker )to no3. Superm was so damn good they got few days at no 1. And yes those other artist bundle but SM lost there mind to many. And it's not good strategy SM risk Kpop being run out of town in America because Non kpop fan started painting all kpop with the cheating brush. And BTS work 3 year to get Kpop accepted. Some people online kept critism kpop and calling bts Superm and all those kpop cheat. SM try to get in America market I think they blew it billboard and American Music industry want trust them anymore.
@lisairene804
@lisairene804 5 лет назад
Carolyn Franklin No billboard has defended SuperM on numerous occasions because people will not shut up. And idk if you are an Army or not but the concern should be this. To the fans who claim that BTS’s success is organic when in reality they cheated. www.buzzfeednews.com/article/blakemontgomery/spotify-billboard-charts twitter.com/jjp2minau/status/1185251570843144192?s=21 And the Army fandom needs to get their act together twitter.com/etheralj/status/1185621560385777669?s=21
@antartestic7687
@antartestic7687 5 лет назад
Everyone does bundles in the US but I wonder who does 60? And all the other groups like Monsta X, NCT, Blackpink who also has been promoting in the US , they don't even come close to top 10.I wonder is Blackpink less famous than SuperM in the US? Also didn't know BTS wasn't Korean...
@Yoonginology
@Yoonginology 5 лет назад
SuperM has fans from 3 different fandoms so it makes sense for them to have quite high sales. Bp isn't really strong with physical sales tho
@AmiAki
@AmiAki 5 лет назад
We know artist do bundles but who does 60 bundles but u do have a point itsno different that fandoms gathering together to stream songs
@Koogup
@Koogup 5 лет назад
I wish I can give you 100k likes for this video cause I'm tired of those damn armchairs discrediting superm for their hard work 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️
@enriiseberi8669
@enriiseberi8669 5 лет назад
There was no need for superm. Sm just realized they fucked up with EXO and tried to give it a shot.
@starrywoo
@starrywoo 4 года назад
army stop getting pressed when another group breaks into the u.s. challenge: *failed*
@kyooongie
@kyooongie 5 лет назад
slightly off topic from the video but: most EXO-Ls (including myself) were extremely mad at the fact that Baekhyun and Kai were overworked to the point of exhaustion. those poor guys had to plough through the intense rehearsals and photoshoots in between EXO's concert dates, when they should have been resting. concerts are tiring. imagine having to prepare for two tours for two separate groups whilst simultaneously preparing for EXO's comeback, all packed into the space of a few months. Baekhyun even stated that he hasn't had a single day off since his solo promotions, and has been seen getting himself injured a few times already. Kai too has expressed his tiredness on his IG live, and you can see it on his face. it's ridiculous. the fact that SM ent would sacrifice the physical and mental well-being of their most powerful idols for a few extra bucks, is just beyond me. they are human, and all human beings have their limits. hence it is essential for them to rest. that's basic human rights. bottom line: we are not against Baekhyun nor Kai nor the rest of the members of SuperM. we are just frustrated at the way SM ent mistreats their idols. that's all. stay pressed.
@poopoopants7904
@poopoopants7904 4 года назад
bbh’s puta but you guys complain when exo doesn’t have a comeback. i’m an exol too and i think this is a good idea on sm ‘s part.
@May-we3fh
@May-we3fh 5 лет назад
I think the main issue is people are sick of companies forcing western popularity. The more you force it the less genuine it becomes and the more you are reinforcing preconceived ideas and stereotypes about kpop. It's just so irritating to see SM basically unravel all the work that groups like BTS and GOT7 have done to try to eradicate these stereotypes so that future groups are able to have a better chance at succeeding.
@JSinuYasha
@JSinuYasha 5 лет назад
I was honestly surprised when I saw all the hate the group got from their individual fanbases. Its disappointing that it's the first thing you see everytime they make a post on RU-vid because I really like their music. Super M practically introduced me to Wavy and made me want to learn more about NCT. Anyways, I really enjoyed your video and agreed with your points.
@venus-fc2kx
@venus-fc2kx 5 лет назад
on twitter i know a lot of people that are reveluvs, i’m one myself. a lot of them were talking about how sm never gave red velvet this much promotion when they went #1 twice and some of their songs were eligible for riaa gold. red velvet is one of the most popular ggs in the west right now. sm should take advantage of that. for their redmare tour, they went to what? 5 cities? nct got to go to at least 10. don’t get me wrong, touring is stressful but less tour dates means less opportunities for fans to see their faves. fans want to see their faves, and they are willing to spend money on them. if red velvet went to more cities, sm would’ve gotten more money for his greedy self. red velvet have so many achievements to be proud of, yet sm sweeps it under the rug like it’s nothing. don’t get me wrong, exo, nct, & shinee have done amazing things, but they (especially nct) got the promotions for it and sm acknowledged them and used them to his advantage. i don’t hate shinee, exo, nct or superm. i’m an exo-l & a nctzen myself. in my opinion, i see superm as a way for sm and captiol to get money, they’re both greedy. at first, i thought superm wasn’t going to do well bc of the xenophobia in the us, and a lot of exo-ls were highly against this. superm is doing successfully right now, and i’m proud of them. the boys deserve it. a lot of armys hate on them tho, but they shouldn’t hate on them for being successful. don’t invalidate other group’s achievements to praise your fave’s. sorry for this long rant, just wanted to put my 2 cents in.
@eiirayoong5557
@eiirayoong5557 5 лет назад
Ace Card i get what you mean, but capitol wanted to make a super.. BOY group. they never aimed to create a super girl group in the first place, so red velvet would have never been considered.
@breadstal
@breadstal 5 лет назад
Except Capitol is primarily behind SuperM though, not so much SM. Also, all companies want money; artists are made to make money.
@venus-fc2kx
@venus-fc2kx 5 лет назад
saltymochi that is true, but sm's bgs are so popular already. i wish they gave the same amount of promo to rv.
@venus-fc2kx
@venus-fc2kx 5 лет назад
cocotaemin that is true. all companies care about it money. it's how their company thrives. it's sad that some companies don't take care of their idols properly tho.
@erikad0511
@erikad0511 5 лет назад
I dunno if I love the juggernaut of a record company SM but I do LOVE SUPER M (kinda wishing they had a different name now tho🙄). The bundling doesn't bother me either. Seems as tho the earned 1st fair & square. Which I think is cool & I'm army too.
@daylaanle
@daylaanle 5 лет назад
About the bundle thing, i think a lot of people know that bundle isnt cheating, even Billboard themselves clarify that bundle is a way of charting. But the thing that im upset about is how the companies just want to achieve that "first album debut on no.1 Hot200" Like they almost give no f*ck about the public's reaction, the fans' thought and the only thing they care about is fame and money. When SuperM debut, they should care about the group's actual position, how people think about them instead of running for the number 1 on the chart I mean if SM care about the fans' reaction that much they probaby wont even come up with the SuperM idea at the first place
@anjanasingh3932
@anjanasingh3932 5 лет назад
Sales in america is counted on billboard. But they used some method that sales in korea was counted. This they are investigating.
@beribyuns
@beribyuns 5 лет назад
I like SuperM and their songs, and I will continue to follow them, but I’m confused as why they were really made in the first place. Most members are overworked, and SM already has enough boy groups and money. Despite the confusion, they were successful, and there isn’t much of a reason to attack them as a group.
@MartinelunafayeWhitear21
@MartinelunafayeWhitear21 5 лет назад
Hate sm sorry but they are greedy as hell all they care about is money not about idols what a dumb company😑😑😑 im an army the songs good but im not sure why i just cant get into them propley there amazing by way working amazingly hard but there just not group ill be follwing wish them huge good luck in future as there going places
@hawaiianBombshell
@hawaiianBombshell 4 года назад
Snatching "the most popular" boys from each group just undermined their original groups & made those boys feel bad & not as good. Wtf
@putrierika1660
@putrierika1660 5 лет назад
It's not the artist's fault, it's the company's fault. They just focused on making money instead focusing on their artists who works their asses off. Now they had to manage *2 GROUPS* and they will get overworked. So... After I watched this video, I didn't knew that this accusion by other fandoms had occured before and after their debut. I will just stan SuperM 50/50. Because I didn't like the concept so much and on the other hand they all look handsome.
@mybuttons11
@mybuttons11 3 года назад
I think literally any previous exo, NCT, or taemin song sounds better than jopping like wtf. The English is comical...idk how SM and an American label could let that be the debut song smh
@jlt960004
@jlt960004 5 лет назад
Look what SuperM did is no small feat and it’s incredible what they did. But their goal was to tackle the US market right? They got to the top of the charts but honestly I think it’s too early to call it a success. Longevity is what matters tbh. Like if they quickly fall off the charts that means the average person they were targeting didn’t care for it, only kpop stans i.e. their fans got them that achievement (which more power to SM stans that actually support this). Now, they all have huge fan bases so I do expect this to chart long and well, but is it really going to be looked at as something revolutionary? Probably not. Especially when a lot of SM stans are still really against this whole thing. I’m hopeful for this group but still skeptical. Especially when it’s an obvious cash grab by the companies.
@jordanaguilera5349
@jordanaguilera5349 5 лет назад
*sees video* *Scrolls down to the comment section with popcorn* Oh this will be good.
@ca-dr9du
@ca-dr9du 5 лет назад
i was just going to do my homework but you uploaded. #priorities
@sorntrash
@sorntrash 4 года назад
Lol I just enjoy it for what it is. SM and CR are just out here trying to make as much money as they can. P.S Jopping is trash, Stream I Can't Stand The Rain. ✌🏾️
@rozanaemini9651
@rozanaemini9651 4 года назад
I don’t even get the point of superm tbh.Taemin and baekhyun are expected to enlist in the military in like half a year so idk what sm was trying to do.I love the members cuz I really like shinee exo and nct but i feel sooo bad for them,they were already overworked and now they are twice as overworked and are getting so much unnecessary hate because of their company.It’s honestly so disappointing how sm is so desperate to have a group surpass bts’s success.We all know,wether we want to admit it or not,that no kpop group ever is going to achieve that level of success,for millions of reasons. They tried with nct 127 and it failed miserably and now they do this.Same goes with yg.I feel like they are so salty over the fact that they are not the biggest company like in the times of bigbang,snsd,2ne1,shinee and exo.And now blackpink and superm get all this hate and they don’t deserve it at all
@warmydestiny5220
@warmydestiny5220 5 лет назад
to anyone stop accusing the army as if we were doing negative comments stop making fanwar and to all the army I remind you not to make hate comments to other artists. I have been an Army since then, since BTS was not as big as now, they went through a lot of things, were blasphemed, hated, belittled, accused of plagiarism and so on. what I want to say is don't make other people feel what BTS feelback then. BTS teaches us as army to love ourselves and spread love, and I think BTS will definitely not happy and feel sad if there are army who do hate speech or demean others. as we say that karma is army so don't let it turn to us because of the bad things we do. The wheel is always spinning so while it's still on top let's spread the goodness like what BTS teaches us. if we don't like it and don't want to support it enough stop seeing. we just have to support our idols and protect them if something bad happens to them. And to superm fans I just want to say as RM once said "haters gonna hate players gonna play" so ignore haters and support your idols. BTS fighting, ARMY fighting and also superm fighting
@pinkteezpov
@pinkteezpov 5 лет назад
girlie i missed u
@chalmawivualzong2472
@chalmawivualzong2472 5 лет назад
just wanted to say please PLEASE don't hate on the boys,,,, y'all have problem? just ignore its not the boys fault okay go off on sm entertainment lit rally don't care but not the boys
@cherylmia
@cherylmia 5 лет назад
Its just music, guys please relax...
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