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@lisag4527
@lisag4527 3 месяца назад
I get so excited for authors who get picked up by traditional publishers because it has to feel amazing for them to essentially get recognized for their work and see their stories in stores. However I will never understand why a publisher would pick up an established series with a big Following of readers who already know and love the story and then try to change how the author writes the next story. Obviously Chloe did fantastic writing the first 4, and people read them even though each book was over 600 pages. Why make her cut so much out? In character driven stories we need all those little moments to flesh those characters out so that by the end we know without doubt those 2 belong together. I finished 13 and 6 feeling like Shannon and Johnny and Aoife and Joey were end game. I finished 7 thinking, maybe they will make it. And after the reveal of what his step brother did I just thought, why? Gibsie already had trauma surrounding his father and sister, why add so much more. I also remember in 13 gibsie telling Johnny he wouldn't ask claire out because statistically relationships of people who get together in high school rarely make it so he wanted them both to live a little first. None of that was ever mentioned as a reason in Taming 7, his reasons were all surrounding his trauma. All through 13 we get the impression he is a player who has been with many girls. This came from his own mouth but also every single person around him including his friends who have known him since he was 7. Yet that was all just a lie? And claire was always miss sunshine but she never seemed as immature in the other books. I don't understand how you can be immature being surrounded by the traumatic lives of Shannon, joey, gibsie, and lizzie. Ugh I just was expecting to get similar vibes to what we got with 13 and 6 and was so excited for gibsies story and so let down after finishing. If the publisher really did make Chloe cut so much then they did her, her readers, and this entire series a huge disservice. I hope they realize their mistake and let her write the story she wants with claiming 10 because lizzie is a mess and she's gonna need those extra 50,000 words to make me have sympathy for her and figure out how hughie falls for her. Sorry this was so long but no one else I know has read the series yet so I only have my non reader husband to vent to and he can't figure out why fictional characters and stories can make me rant so much 😂
@nikkisbooknook
@nikkisbooknook 3 месяца назад
You’re preaching to the choir! I’m an author my and getting traditionally published is a dream yet so scary because you are essentially handing over ownership of your work and giving up your control over it. At this point I just don’t understand why any self published author with a massive following would take that leap. The benefits don’t seem to outweigh the disadvantages to me. It truly breaks my heart. But yes, completely agree with everything you said! Gibsie was a TOTAL playboy in the previous books. And his relationship with Dee seemed to be something he was in to and when he spoke about it before he just gave off the vibes he was frequently doing those sorts of things. But now it’s like he was never into it and hasn’t been with anybody? Him and Claire just felt like totally different characters and it hurt my brain 😭 Totally agree too about there being zero need to layer trauma onto his trauma. It truly felt like it was just for shock value. I’m so sad and really hoping Lizzie gets the book she deserves.
@lisag4527
@lisag4527 3 месяца назад
@nikkisbooknook I almost feel like publishers see a successful series and don't actually pay attention to what readers love about it and what makes that authors writing/stories unique. Then pick it up and try to make the next books that the author writes follow some formula of what they think readers want. Rather than saying "this author obviously knows what she's doing let's trust her and her readers, let her write the story, we will polish it and get it into stores and into more people's hands". I almost wish the whole series had been released independently before the publishers took notice and then were just re-released with new covers. Kind of like Mariana Zapata with Winnipeg and Rhodes. Can you imagine all the small bits of those 2 books someone may have said "eh this isn't important it needs cut😱". It would have been a travesty for those characters and the story as a whole.
@bestielate
@bestielate 2 месяца назад
@@nikkisbooknookgibsie was not INTO the whole see situation. he was groomed, you can just tell he was not comfortable with it. he had to get his d**ick pierced because she wouldn’t leave him alone.
@OsamaShehab-d8p
@OsamaShehab-d8p 3 месяца назад
Thanks a lot for the video. Persophone and Hades was also one of the very best reviews.
@1stephanie8994
@1stephanie8994 Месяц назад
Ya in B13 and K13 claire had more going on. She seemed much more mature, but then she was playing hockey and stuff. Just having a life outside of the page that we could have gone into. Also I wish we saw more of claire helping gibsie with his with the water therapy. Also now gibsie is kinda into baking which is great but at the end of k13 he was serious about Johnny helping gibsie be ready to take the next step with rugby. I wish we had seen more. It needed to be two books. I wanted to see more past.
@jacklynnvictoria
@jacklynnvictoria 2 месяца назад
I’ve just finished it last night, spoilers!!! I got so tired about Lizzie keeping it up to Gibs and not wanting to hear anything! Also (might be coming from my own trauma lol) but I kinda hoped there was a reason that Claire was so happy and sunshiney all the time. I did love the book overall, more because it’s part of the series. If this would’ve been book 1, I wouldn’t have read the next parts if that makes sense. Last, I feel like the discussion of Gibsies trauma was so short! I wanted to know more about the after math, more about his mom and how he feels a few weeks after, not a few days.
@gabyfaye3219
@gabyfaye3219 3 месяца назад
Soooo many thoughts on this book. So this comment is probably gonna be all over the place 🤣🤣. Lizzie drives me nuts. I love this story but don’t know if I can handle more from her in the next book 🥴. Not a fan of a lot of the things Claire did or said either but I feel like I’m definitely alone in supporting the fact she called out the staff member at the school. Like lady what you did was illegal. You lowkey deserve what came to you 🥴. I love Gibsie though justice for that boy 😭.
@DreHayn
@DreHayn Месяц назад
I just finished it and went right to you to hear what you had to say about it
@Shesthebes
@Shesthebes Месяц назад
I had a hard time finishing this book . What about calling Darren will this ever happened? What about mark? He needs to get charged and put away! Lizzie was way over the top I thought she was too much I really don’t understand why it was so forced, I also don’t think anyone would be okay with another friend treating another friend that way constantly especially since he DID NOTHING . Claire was so annoying and I couldn’t stand it. I also hope Joey doesn’t turn his back on gibsie because he should understand what gibsie went through!
@diaryofahomeschoolmama9191
@diaryofahomeschoolmama9191 3 месяца назад
I honestly don't even know if I can finish Taming 7.... I'm like 65% in and I just cannot.... I freaking loved the other 4. It's my favorite series I've ever read but this book is honestly terrible. 😢
@lisag4527
@lisag4527 3 месяца назад
I flew through the 1st 4 and was counting down to Taming 7 release like a kid waiting for Christmas. I finished it and I'm glad I did but there was so much of it I felt was changed from the claire and gibsie we got to know in those 4 to this one that i just kept getting irritated. You can't give me 4 books with a total of 2400+ pages with these characters showing up and getting to know them then change so many things. This story and these characters deserved more.
@diaryofahomeschoolmama9191
@diaryofahomeschoolmama9191 3 месяца назад
@@lisag4527 absolutely. And I think it really does have to do with it being traditionally published now. At this point I'm happy to just stop with the first 4 because they were so amazing... I don't even need more. I loved all the side characters but sometimes side characters need to stay on the side, not get their own books. I could care less about Lizzie's story. I just want more Joey and Aoife and Shannon and Johnny.
@nikkisbooknook
@nikkisbooknook 3 месяца назад
Absolutely agree. Claire and Gibsie are so much better as side characters. This just didn’t work for me :(
@JanessaStuckey
@JanessaStuckey 2 месяца назад
@@nikkisbooknook I skimmed/dnf T7. like everything was too repetitive like i know i wasn't missing anything. i have so many reasons I dislike BoT In general. I LOVE the BoT don't get me wrong, but there were little things that i found harder to push through and like: the girl characters. i love shannon, aoife, lizzie, but cw doesn't do them justice. we never see shannon going to therapy for her trauma, like we see joey in rehab. like-this girl was literally on the brink of death, and she got bullied her ENTIRE life, but we never once see a glimpse of her talking or how the abuse affected her. BUT in joey's book we see him actually getting help for his addiction and talking about his trauma. by no means am i not acknowledging the fact the boys have trauma-but this is a book with the theme of mental health and abuse and trauma. we would assume that cw would talk about shannon's trauma, but we don't. We know that shannon is small, because of the lack of nurition, but we would assume she would have an eating disorder given the enviroment she lived in-but nope. Also, shannon was suicidal because of her bulllying that we literally read in joeys books, but no conversation there. Aoife is an example of not showing female trauma: she cuts her hair after Joey's dad assaulted her to "become a new person", and that's all. like after the assault happened, i know aoife couldn't face joey without seeing his dad, but like a day or two she just got magically over it and we pretended it wasn't a big deal, because WE see no signs of trauma in Aoife. And we know Chloe Walsh can write about mental health-through the boys. no hate on any boys, you deserve to be seen and heard. but she doesn't want to-even though we know we can. Edit: I kind of hated the cw writing style. because of the choppy and short dialogue we could assume the marketing targeted it to the teenage audience because of how young it sounded and read as.
@angelaholmes8888
@angelaholmes8888 2 месяца назад
Taming 7 felt flat i didn't enjoy claire in this book much the book should had been longer to me poor gibsie he really is surrounded by so much trauma i hope the next book is better i give this one 3 stars ⭐⭐⭐
@Lauren_Stern
@Lauren_Stern 3 месяца назад
For someone who hasn't read this series yet, do you think it's worth reading this series still since this one was so disappointing?
@nobaddayze
@nobaddayze 3 месяца назад
YES. JOHNNY x SHANNON AND JOEY x AOIFE are EVERYYYYTHING
@nikkisbooknook
@nikkisbooknook 3 месяца назад
The first four books, yes absolutely! And you could leave it there and be satisfied IMO
@Lauren_Stern
@Lauren_Stern 3 месяца назад
@@nikkisbooknook oh ok! Yeah, it seems that this new one just seems off from the rest. I'll add them back to my TBR.
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