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Let's Talk About The National Dex 

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Nintendo fans, unite!►bit.ly/NintendoFan
Pokémon Sword and Shield's Galar Region won't have every Pokémon in it, and everyone has lost their minds. Let's Talk about it.
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Комментарии : 7 тыс.   
@expio4257
@expio4257 5 лет назад
You know something's up when the Fire Emblem community is happier as a whole with a new game than the Pokémon community is.
@JacobNintendoNerd99
@JacobNintendoNerd99 5 лет назад
But MAAAAAAARS
@lancelovecraft5913
@lancelovecraft5913 5 лет назад
We are really happy over here in our 3 houses right now. Honestly of u enjoy Pokemon u will enjoy FE, it's like Pokemon but with people
@shadowdragun
@shadowdragun 5 лет назад
@@lancelovecraft5913 That's only Pokemon conquest; otherwise, they couldn't be more different
@faceyfacefaceface
@faceyfacefaceface 5 лет назад
Hey we've been happy since echoes.
@faceyfacefaceface
@faceyfacefaceface 5 лет назад
@@shadowdragun I mean they are both turn based rpgs with a tactical element and involve collecting a party of teammates. They aren't that similar but I feel like could certainly attract the same audience as a life long fan of both and they could definitely be a lot more different.
@dmansuperich2800
@dmansuperich2800 5 лет назад
You can actually pinpoint the moment the Pokemon community collapses at E3
@Dasaltwarrior
@Dasaltwarrior 5 лет назад
Oh thank you. You reminded me to look up chat reactions on that stream.
@BassForever
@BassForever 5 лет назад
The best part of that is when Bill and other tree house members have this borderline stunned look on their faces and try to act professional.
@Laubfisch
@Laubfisch 5 лет назад
@@BassForever Best part was Bill trying to do damage control and asking whether he could transfer his pokemon from Let'sGO to SwSh and Masuda being uncomfortable saying "Eh.. yes, if a pokemon is in the Galar Dex, you can transfer them"
@mattok101digitaltamer9
@mattok101digitaltamer9 5 лет назад
What about the day the Digimon community rises?
@Fenriren
@Fenriren 5 лет назад
The high quality excuse is exactly why I'm irked at that decision.
@Yoseqlo1
@Yoseqlo1 5 лет назад
Yeah, I could have give them a pass if the improvement were numerous and obvious, but no, it just keeps me wondering: Then, where all the supposed *effort* that they couldn't give to add a National Dex went it?! It just seems like GF is blantantly lying.
@Toadthefungi
@Toadthefungi 5 лет назад
ikr?? I dont understand what the new animations we are supposed to be getting.
@ladylunaginaofgames40
@ladylunaginaofgames40 5 лет назад
Well, sometimes Demos still have some freshening up to do. Given time we will really see the game at its fullest
@funguy3453
@funguy3453 5 лет назад
If the game looked incredible graphically, everyone would understand.
@kaickf.r.goncalves2846
@kaickf.r.goncalves2846 5 лет назад
Yeah, it's just a dumb excuse, the animations look as cheap, rushed and robotic as they did before
@joemedlen2924
@joemedlen2924 5 лет назад
Year 2030 Pokémon Ultimate *Everyone Is Here*
@caviaporcellus7253
@caviaporcellus7253 5 лет назад
Joe Medlen underrated
@benpiano800
@benpiano800 5 лет назад
It would be 2026
@MaxtheCatto
@MaxtheCatto 5 лет назад
*kinda*
@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz
@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz 5 лет назад
do fangames count?
@bheronz
@bheronz 5 лет назад
Pokemon Veterans : *cries*
@emblemblade9245
@emblemblade9245 5 лет назад
I’ve recently been replaying Pokemon Black and man, I can just feel the creativity and care put into that game.
@niklashamrin6397
@niklashamrin6397 5 лет назад
pokemon black and man gg made my day lol
@kazoorion7993
@kazoorion7993 5 лет назад
I am recently playing Soul Silver. Man, I really love it.
@FrostGlader
@FrostGlader 5 лет назад
I’ve been replaying Platinum, but have only been using Pokémon from Sinnoh.
@XxCatcocanutxX
@XxCatcocanutxX 5 лет назад
On and off have been playing Platinum, Black 1 and Black 2. I played Pokemon Black for the first time neglecting it when I was little. The story was RICH, felt like an entire fresh experience to me.
@XxCatcocanutxX
@XxCatcocanutxX 5 лет назад
@Therealchris929 Lol Absolutey! The most fun and nostslgia i've had with any set of games.
@cobraglatiator
@cobraglatiator 5 лет назад
JWittz: "clearly there's a disconnect between the masses and myself,but what is it?" *Ad plays* Me:: apparently it's google stadia.
@theslimeyboi
@theslimeyboi 5 лет назад
Nah, it's shop titans
@cobraglatiator
@cobraglatiator 5 лет назад
@@theslimeyboi i don't know what that is.
@theslimeyboi
@theslimeyboi 5 лет назад
@@cobraglatiator Another ad
@cobraglatiator
@cobraglatiator 5 лет назад
@@theslimeyboi ah, that makes sense.
@ebrimambowe3030
@ebrimambowe3030 5 лет назад
I got two Google ads
@phinn8193
@phinn8193 5 лет назад
I'd be fine with losing the national dex, if Game Freak actually followed through on their claim that animations would be better.
@darkminer2674
@darkminer2674 5 лет назад
From what I’ve played. The animations actually are better. Especially scorbunny using quick attack and flame charge.
@frobsonsdesenhos
@frobsonsdesenhos 5 лет назад
@@darkminer2674 prove it
@darkminer2674
@darkminer2674 5 лет назад
Frobsons desenhos I’ll have a gameplay video of the demo on my channel sometimes this week
@darkminer2674
@darkminer2674 5 лет назад
Gabriel Mota I would have to disagree. The animations look new from my gameplay
@SL2797
@SL2797 5 лет назад
You shouldn't. Don't settle for less than an actual AAA game.
@thepiemaster477
@thepiemaster477 5 лет назад
I think the timebomb analogy towards the end absolutely nailed it. This is an issue isn't just one thing, this is something that's slowly built up over time. This was a really level-headed look at the controversy. Great work!
@MxPokirby
@MxPokirby 5 лет назад
"The National Dex's removal was the straw that broke the Numel's back."
@BigFearedBalloon
@BigFearedBalloon 5 лет назад
Indeed.
@Dracomut
@Dracomut 5 лет назад
Indeed, it is very refreshing after seeing so many smug apologists and overly emotional haters just rant
@Kevo_-qu2wo
@Kevo_-qu2wo 5 лет назад
True, there are a lot of issues the fans are having with the franchise, like the difficulty, the lack of good post-games, removal of features fans likes and IMO the biggest slap in the face of the fanbase: "The battle frontier project has started."
@elfmonster3082
@elfmonster3082 5 лет назад
The hype train was full speed. Then it derailed and became a exploding wreck in a matter of seconds.
@mintentha
@mintentha 5 лет назад
Seriously, this was going to be the first pokemon game I got since ORAS and I was super hyped to get both versions of the game. Now I don't plan on getting either. I use far more pokemon from older games than I ever have used the ones from the newer games. I didn't do a *ton* of transfering pokemon from my own older games but I did like utilizing the GTS in the past to get those older pokemon and there certainly were a few pokemon that I brought in every game since gen 3.
@elegant_lilligant
@elegant_lilligant 5 лет назад
And the train had a dozen of Tsar bombs. And the crash happened near an oil resevoir.
@rollforrupees6479
@rollforrupees6479 5 лет назад
I can hear your pfp
@19spacecats
@19spacecats 5 лет назад
It’s not that they told us that some of the pokemon won’t be in Sword/Shield, it’s that they did it in the worst way possible. When you make it a throw away comment with very little information it was going to be controversial. They gave us some more info, they apologized, but how casually they let that info loose was facepalm worthy.
@RokuSquad
@RokuSquad 5 лет назад
@monkey you’re assuming that ONLY new Pokémon will appear in the game. Please don’t buy the game, we don’t want people who give biased opinions and feel UNREASONABLY entitled to the company.
@rohan68842
@rohan68842 5 лет назад
What upsets me the most is that the most probable reason for all of this happening is that Game Freak refuses to grow and adapt and instead puts all the workload on ~100 people, I wouldn't be surprised if they're overworked to exhaustion just so they don't risk any leaks and keep development costs low.
@commentmanwhoeatsgahbage3022
@commentmanwhoeatsgahbage3022 5 лет назад
And it gets worse one you realize a chunk of them are working on Town, not Pokemon.
@boredfangerrude
@boredfangerrude 5 лет назад
Part of the problem is more than likely taxes and minimum wage.
@TheRedRaccoonDog
@TheRedRaccoonDog 5 лет назад
@@boredfangerrude That is almost certainly not the problem.
@lauchlinyurchuk1301
@lauchlinyurchuk1301 5 лет назад
*ahem* TOWN! it exists!
@NeutralGuyDoubleZero
@NeutralGuyDoubleZero 5 лет назад
@@boredfangerrude They own the most successful media franchise ever made. Budget and money should be the absolute least problem they have.
@ZorotheGallade
@ZorotheGallade 5 лет назад
"We can't add old Pokémon, all our efforts have gone into making the models for a 80 FEET TALL CAKE"
@cereza3677
@cereza3677 5 лет назад
Wedding Cake Alcremie is almost a 100 FT tall
@epiccarrot88
@epiccarrot88 5 лет назад
The cake (animation quality) is a lie.
@justarandomguy54
@justarandomguy54 5 лет назад
ZorotheGallade It’s even better. Gigantamax Alcremie is, like, 98 feet tall. A 98 foot tall wedding cake... What’s not to love?
@PIKAbrusier
@PIKAbrusier 5 лет назад
Lets be honest. That cake is worth it
@kiwiking1226
@kiwiking1226 5 лет назад
They probably added all the kanto mons in there
@Volt790
@Volt790 5 лет назад
JWittz is determined to say "Fitty dolla bill" in EVERY VIDEO recently & it keeps making me laugh
@devondelgado5911
@devondelgado5911 5 лет назад
I love it as well!
@Vassilinia
@Vassilinia 5 лет назад
I sure hope fiddy dolla bill makes it into SnS. 😗
@earltan7067
@earltan7067 5 лет назад
Guys calm down, all Pokémon will appear at Pokemon Super Duper Sword and Super Duper Shield
@kjack157
@kjack157 5 лет назад
Hydrate Plays Lmao they're probably working on the "ultra" version. All I know is that if a gen 4 remake is in the works, the balance will be restored.
@dominickperez2952
@dominickperez2952 5 лет назад
@@kjack157 Perfectly balanced, as all things should be
@majestichotwings6974
@majestichotwings6974 5 лет назад
@@kjack157jack lets hope they treat gen 4 remakes better than this gen and the ORAS remakes, still pissed about the battle frontier. I just want a faithful recreation of Sinnoh without any BS gimmicks like dynamaxing or cut content. I want to really see the care and effort that got put into the originals, not the soulless mess pokemon has been since X and Y. This is not to say that gen 6 and 7 were bad but that they just didn't have the same level of craftsmanship that the previous generations had, I really feel that since they shifted to 3D games their quality has gone down, I miss the wonderful sprite-work animations that black and white (and Diamond and Pearl as well) had, battles felt immersive and didn't look like the complete garbage we see with Sword and Shield right now. I like the visuals of the 3D games, but everything else just feels lacking, if they can get a refocus on the story and other crucial elements then I would likely start enjoying the games more but as they are at present, Gamefreak is losing my interest, FAST.
@M3rtyville
@M3rtyville 5 лет назад
All we have to do is pay Twice and likely play the same experience again like in USUM.
@paintbrushjr.8312
@paintbrushjr.8312 5 лет назад
Oh boy, Pokémon Gun!
@JammoYT
@JammoYT 5 лет назад
Guys! I have a theory! The Galar region is based of Britain, so in Galar they had their own Brexit and doubled down on immigration laws from the other regions
@DapperestDave
@DapperestDave 5 лет назад
#Dexit
@metasprite5648
@metasprite5648 5 лет назад
Build the wall! #Maga
@teamawesomeness7137
@teamawesomeness7137 5 лет назад
@@metasprite5648 make alola great again?
@bagoheado9065
@bagoheado9065 5 лет назад
The problem isn't "not every pokemon is in the games", the problem is, they claimed to upgrage graphics and animations at the cost of national dex. They didn't upgrage it enough/at all,considering the loss.
@lordlubu3029
@lordlubu3029 5 лет назад
That quote is taken out of context, what they are referring to by "upgrading animations and graphics" is that if they added the additional 200-300 pokemon then the animations and graphics would suffer tremendously, it would look even worse than it does now and be poorly optimized.
@bagoheado9065
@bagoheado9065 5 лет назад
@@lordlubu3029 i dare to disagree. They do have the resources to make both good graphics and animations, on top of national dex, now we get neither (recycled animations and scaled textures). The games animations are worse than pokemon stadiums, which came out generations ago. It's just excuses. it's no secret that they are focusing on their new IP, which is not pokemon.
@lordlubu3029
@lordlubu3029 5 лет назад
@@bagoheado9065 Saying it's worse than Pokemon stadium is exaggerating by a huge margin. Also we saw early beta footage, that isn't what the final version of the game is going to look like given that it's more than 3 months away from release. And I am not saying that Gamefreak doesn't have the resources, I'm saying that the Switch doesn't have the resources because it's a very low end hardware. Also comparing Pokemon Stadium to this is comparing apples and oranges, Sword and Shield is 100x more complex and larger than Stadium. Stadium didn't have an open world or nearly as much content.
@bagoheado9065
@bagoheado9065 5 лет назад
@@lordlubu3029 nah still disagree with ya. The animations are recycled from old games, and they definitely are not gonna upgrade them in 3 months, this close to release, its just QA and some fine tuning. It is what it is. After stadium, there was gale of darkness and a bunch of other pokemon games, and yeah, they still have better animations.still disagree with you on here, look only at the idle animations. Pokemon battle revolution is a good comparison too. And I think the comparisons are justified, these games came out years ago, on inferior systems. I was looking forward to animated pokemons, since yeah, switch is way better than 3ds,and we've all seen that it's capable of really decent feats, botw, odyssey and witcher3 even. Ruffledrowlet, switcforce and a few other youtubers did a way better in depth analysis on the situation, and they can explain the animations etc way better than me (I'm not a native english speaker). Imo, I'm just disappointed. When I heard the national dex was dropped, I didn't really care. I care when there is seeminly no difference since the handheld days. Some animations are as old as from the x and y. And there was a point when gf had to remake all the pokemons from each game. To me, them putting all their efforts to their new non-pokemon game, national dex cut while saying the effort goes into the graphics/animations, and not delivering, is just disappointing. But eh. Im not gonna change my mind here, and neither are you. :D we can agree to disagree,so we save each others time haha!
@Magitroll
@Magitroll 5 лет назад
Lord Lu Bu If you say that is out of context, I’ll call your comment out for a lie. You are just guessing, and guessing badly.
@LucianoThePig
@LucianoThePig 5 лет назад
This really is the straw that broke the Caemrupt's back about Pokemon. It's very interesting to see
@eevee1583
@eevee1583 5 лет назад
Yes. I'm done with Pokemon. This broke the straw on my back.
@PeterGriffin11
@PeterGriffin11 5 лет назад
For some people maybe but I don't mind the national dex being gone it doesn't affect the overall quality of the game for me and it was bound to happen eventually.
@TheRedRaccoonDog
@TheRedRaccoonDog 5 лет назад
@@PeterGriffin11 For many people it does impact the overall quality of the game.
@Ninjaman50
@Ninjaman50 5 лет назад
The Pokemon community will never be the same after this.
@TheMalikp1
@TheMalikp1 5 лет назад
@LucianoThePig Yeah, seriously. I can understand why people are upset, though this doesn't affect me at all. Whether they do something new or keep it to the basics it's the person decision alone that will see if the game is worth it.
@Wartooth91
@Wartooth91 5 лет назад
"we can't put them all in because it's difficult to remake all those as 3d models" Pokemon X&Y "we're happy to bring all pokemon to 3d to help bring them into the future titles"
@gildarmesh3809
@gildarmesh3809 5 лет назад
or back when they pushed the limits of the handheld in order to give us as much as they could nowadays it is always "we are working with all these limitations" when they take models that already exist and just move them over it almost seems clear that let's go was a test on the new system for what they could do as the human and overworld models look very similar just more compact to fit the original region and in it they took the 3d models and just moved them to display in the overworld as well. while the new region is stretched out there is clearly going to be background loading zones as the "routes" to help it run smoothly but still why can they not include models they already have? for these "new animations" we have yet to see? for the 'upgraded models'? or is it more likely- to get it out as close to as we wanted to make sure our very lucrative tcg is able to get access to a new set that was already printed? 1 person getting 60 dollar game is just 60-120 if they get the set 1 person going for chase rare makes a store get two boxes to one case (6) of 50-60 booster boxes so one tcg player, investor or flipper could go through usually 100-???? worth of boxes through a store that will be getting boxes in the hundreds
@Wartooth91
@Wartooth91 5 лет назад
@@gildarmesh3809 keep in mind, nintendo has ALWAYS had to work within the limitations of their tech. Their whole agenda is pushing outdated technology as far as they think they can
@caviaporcellus7253
@caviaporcellus7253 5 лет назад
Breaker_Jones that moment when game freak defenders find out that ALL of the old models and animations are from gen 6 and 7
@xyzzy-dv6te
@xyzzy-dv6te 5 лет назад
@Breaker_Jones And Game Freak did a great job with the Game Boys and DS, a good job with 3DS and pretty terrible job with Switch
@kylecampbell565
@kylecampbell565 5 лет назад
This is basically code word for the Pokémon company not giving game freak enough time to get accustomed to the new hardware
@FreePalestine460
@FreePalestine460 5 лет назад
It feels like Pokemon is taking a step back while Zelda, Mario, and Animal Crossing are talking leaps forward.
@HG504X
@HG504X 5 лет назад
Getting too comfortable and not innovating.
@Thund3rDrag0n12
@Thund3rDrag0n12 5 лет назад
The Capybara Guy At this point I’m more optimistic about Pikmin lol
@cookiesontoast9981
@cookiesontoast9981 5 лет назад
@@Thund3rDrag0n12 Pikmin is best Nintendo IP.
@zekejacobsen6631
@zekejacobsen6631 5 лет назад
It’s cause Gamefreak want to make lots of games. I mean animal crossing has had like what, 7 years since the last game? New horizons will be the only AC game for switch but Pokémon will have at least 4 more. More is good but it also means they have to take ‘steps’ rather than leaps cause they have less time between each game. Idk it depends whether you value lots of new stuff over time, or if you would prefer a singular experience which is more revolutionary.
@caswellweird
@caswellweird 5 лет назад
@@zekejacobsen6631 im personally excited for Town, but idk if im happy to hear the lack of effort in Pokemon now that they are double the normal price. Especially when the problem could be easily solved if they just increased their employee numbers.
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi 5 лет назад
*I've got a bad feeling about this...*
@SamuelTheAdept
@SamuelTheAdept 5 лет назад
If Sword and Shield are released without a national dex: *I felt a great disturbance in the Fanbase , as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.*
@Itsprincesweets
@Itsprincesweets 5 лет назад
*hE sAiD iT bOiS! hE dId It He SaId It* _d o o t_
@Dwayneff
@Dwayneff 5 лет назад
We are watching the death of not only the 3DS, but the death of Pokemon.
@Prgrant-gj6st
@Prgrant-gj6st 5 лет назад
@@SamuelTheAdept that quote either means only 1 million lived on a planet or that only 1 million cared they where gonna die
@fatalbert2055
@fatalbert2055 5 лет назад
We all do Master Kenobi
@weap0nizedthiccness
@weap0nizedthiccness 5 лет назад
"Every Pokemon should have time to shine" Champion has Charizard as Ace
@eevee1583
@eevee1583 5 лет назад
"Every Pokemon should have time to shine" *So let's cut most of them out so they will never appear again*
@nope3361
@nope3361 5 лет назад
Lily Mega Eevee they’re not removing Pokémon, calm down
@quirijnv6793
@quirijnv6793 5 лет назад
@@nope3361 Yes they are? At least in the context of the new game. Most Pokémon are just not in it and not transferrable either.
@sirmel11
@sirmel11 5 лет назад
who said most aren't in the game?
@quirijnv6793
@quirijnv6793 5 лет назад
@@sirmel11 I have nothing concrete, but it's a very likely assumption. Regional dexes in the past were always the new mons with a number of old ones mixed in. Kalos had a bit more than half of the national dex appearing naturally. If it was a minority of Pokémon that are to be removed, wouldn't that be even worse too?
@zowayix
@zowayix 5 лет назад
One critical thing missing from the above video is that Gen 7 already has HD models for all 809 Pokemon programmed into it. The graphics engine itself just downscales them after loading them so they fit onto the 3DS's 240p screen. For example, no new HD models had to be made for Let's Go (except the Meltan line and the Partner Pokemon); they were all copy-pasted over from USUM. This means that there was no need at all to cut Pokemon from the programming of SwSh.
@flarewolf
@flarewolf 5 лет назад
Except that the models in sword and shield aren't the same as in let's go. And let's go only had to deal with the original 150 plus the meltan line and the alola forms so it didn't take as much storage. And we also don't know how many new pokemon will be added for which there are no existing models.
@zowayix
@zowayix 5 лет назад
@@flarewolf If you look at comparison videos of the models and animations, you can clearly see that they are identical between the two games, with the exception of the 2 Partner Pokemon. Only the lighting is different, but this is a global change that only needs to be applied once across all models. Storage space has never been an issue even on the 3DS let alone the Switch, and Game Freak never claimed anything about hardware limitations (they're claiming dev time, which is false). Adding new models doesn't take any time away from literally copy-pasting in old models.
@justice8718
@justice8718 5 лет назад
blueapple, I think it has more to do with how Pokémon competitive is affected by having all of the mons and their focus on modeling the region itself.
@zowayix
@zowayix 5 лет назад
@@justice8718 Time spent modeling the region again doesn't take away time from copy-pasting in the previous HD models that they already have. All official competitive formats already have a limit/balance mechanism with the origin markings.
@flarewolf
@flarewolf 5 лет назад
@@zowayix ok I never said that they said anything about hardware limitations. I brought that up because it is a valid point regardless of whether or not gamefreak mentions it. Also It would take a lot more work than just copy and paste to implement the reused models ,assuming that they are reused. And I have made those comparisons and while they are slight there are differences between the two games.
@spekkio4551
@spekkio4551 5 лет назад
All Pokémon are equal but some Pokémon are more equal than others.
@theasianguy9812
@theasianguy9812 5 лет назад
Masuda is always right.
@M3rtyville
@M3rtyville 5 лет назад
They made exclusive Dynamax forms now so Dynamax won't make all Pokemon evenly useful as a target.
@cutecommie
@cutecommie 5 лет назад
@@M3rtyville But if that is what you dislike, wait till you hear about mega evolution.
@M3rtyville
@M3rtyville 5 лет назад
@@cutecommie that was the premise of Dynamax and taking out Mega Evolution. Now they are basicly adding Mega Evolution for specifiy Dynamax Pokemon. There was no point in removing Megas in the first place.
@kamezard3131
@kamezard3131 5 лет назад
Animal Farm. Nice.
@mwolsen96
@mwolsen96 5 лет назад
Pkemon fans: *Are angry and divided over the new games* Fire Emblem fans: "First time?"
@nightruler666
@nightruler666 4 года назад
Fire emblem wasnt popular to begin with until awakening
@TheGrandRevo
@TheGrandRevo 5 лет назад
I can forgive limited roster, if they were telling the truth about “High quality” when they are reusing the same models as XY bland stiff and not exalcty high quality
@TheGrandRevo
@TheGrandRevo 5 лет назад
Gameboy224 all it takes is to notice some patterns and apply logic If that is why they define as quality, wonder what the game is like and Pokémon being the main driving force and they are cutting it in favor of (mystery factor, since it’s clearly not the animations or models) In short, they haven’t draw the best yet, or I’m wrong and what they revealed is all there is, opinions could change and you silly lot can be won over by literally anything as I see people hyped to play generation 6.88
@TheGrandRevo
@TheGrandRevo 5 лет назад
Gameboy224 our sights are on what’s revealed so far, I don’t feel any empathy towards those who are already dead set on a game they’ll buy without really knowing most of it, it can and should be applied the other way aswell The major issue with the split is that people take offense to those who constantly bring up valid points that others shrug off as “nothing” that’s where conflict sparks. The game we want is far from reach the game they want can never stoop low enough Umm we were told BOTW was open world very very early in development so that’s a bad counterargument. Put two-and-two
@TTInfiniteGaming
@TTInfiniteGaming 5 лет назад
@Gameboy224 dude notice how no one is leaving likes on your comments but everyone is leaving likes on his
@guiteshima
@guiteshima 4 года назад
Ok first of all: The 3DS models are of *console quality* and were made SPECIFICALLY to be re-used should GF make a console quality game so they can save time in development, they don't need that many tweaks as just texture work could be more than enough to make them look fresh new and better. Second: Re-using the 3DS models is actually smart of them, it would be stupid from a game development perspective to make all 800 something pokemon from scratch which would take A LOT of time from developing the rest of the game. Third: The limited roster is NOT forgivable considering that the only models made from scratch are the new pokemon and some of the Dynamax forms (because some of them is just the model scaled up) and they do have better animations for at least 200 of the pokemon, these animations are of course from Battle Revolution, Colosseum and Gale of Darkness which all featured really good animations for both idle stances and moves, which could have been re-used. And it's not like they need to make extremely complex animations for each pokemon, they could even make one animation for physical moves which would require the pokemon to get close and *PHYSICALLY* interact with it's foe, one for moves that are used at a distance such as flamethrower and one for stat moves. The ideal would be that depending on which pokemon is using the move, the particles would be different, for example: Swampert can use hydro pump and shoot it from it's mouth, but Blastoise could use it's canons on the shell instead so the move would need to make the water come out of the canons instead of its forehead. These would be minor improvements that honestly COULD justify the National Dex being removed, at least for me...I would still not like that NatDex wouldn't be in but it would be easier to take it if they DID improve the animations and graphics (by graphics i mean mostly the overworld, the character models look good for the most part...except Team Yell...their designs feel so uninspired and they have only one type of female and male designs...at this point this shouldn't happen anymore). Last: Please keep in mind that this is not a hate comment and that i'm not saying you're wrong, the animations ARE stiff and bland after all...but please don't say it as if the models themselves are the problem as they aren't, they CAN be tweaked but honestly there isn't much need for that, you're not wrong on complaining about it though.
@guiteshima
@guiteshima 4 года назад
Ok first of all: The 3DS models are of *console quality* and were made SPECIFICALLY to be re-used should GF make a console quality game so they can save time in development, they don't need that many tweaks as just texture work could be more than enough to make them look fresh new and better. Second: Re-using the 3DS models is actually smart of them, it would be stupid from a game development perspective to make all 800 something pokemon from scratch which would take A LOT of time from developing the rest of the game and can't be used as a way to call them lazy, what really is lazy of them is using the portable quality animations on the console quality models. Third: The limited roster is NOT forgivable considering that the only models made from scratch are the new pokemon and some of the Dynamax forms (because some of them is just the model scaled up) and they do have better animations for at least 200 of the pokemon, these animations are of course from Battle Revolution, Colosseum and Gale of Darkness which all featured really good animations for both idle stances and moves, which could have been re-used. And it's not like they need to make extremely complex animations for each pokemon, they could even make one animation for physical moves which would require the pokemon to get close and *PHYSICALLY* interact with it's foe, one for moves that are used at a distance such as flamethrower and one for stat moves. The ideal would be that depending on which pokemon is using the move, the particles would be different, for example: Swampert can use hydro pump and shoot it from it's mouth, but Blastoise could use it's canons on the shell instead so the move would need to make the water come out of the canons instead of its forehead. These would be minor improvements that honestly COULD justify the National Dex being removed, at least for me...I would still not like that NatDex wouldn't be in but it would be easier to take it if they DID improve the animations and graphics (by graphics i mean mostly the overworld, the character models look good for the most part...except Team Yell...their designs feel so uninspired and they have only one type of female and male designs...at this point this shouldn't happen anymore).
@MaverickHunterXZA
@MaverickHunterXZA 5 лет назад
Imo, the big issue here is their reasoning. Pokemon is one of the biggest, most profitable gaming IP's on the market. And after 23 years, we get the first full console mainline release. We moved from 3DS cartridges, which max out at 8GB to Switch cartridges which max out at 32GB, so hardware limitations are out of the picture. And there's the underlying issue: Technically, all 3D models already exist. Seeing how shoddy and low-poly some of the world assets in Sword/Shield are, it's just nincompoop to say that they couldn't have imported all models from Ultra Sun/Moon. Especially since the engine used in Sword/Shield uses slight cel shading, which can mask low poly models pretty effectively. And animations? Please, let's not pretend were anywhere near Pokemon Stadium here, a game released 19 years ago. The animations shown so far have been basic, to say the least. I, personally, simply don't buy the reasoning here. A studio working on an IP of that magnitude which has been printing money for over 20 years now are saying it would have been too much work to import and maybe upscale existing models and rigs? Too much work to give them animations as stiff as those already shown? Sorry, but that just sounds ridiculous. I'd get it if they went straight from sprite art to 3D models, but the models present in Ultra Sun/Moon are perfectly suitable, match the style and are sufficiently animated. So yeah, i totally get why people are upset about the news. Because the game looks and sounds to be incredibly rushed. And for a mainline Pokemon game, especially it's first main entry on a decently powerful home console, that's just a very poor show.
@pogfrog9968
@pogfrog9968 5 лет назад
I couldn’t agree more
@miscsloan8834
@miscsloan8834 5 лет назад
biggest issue is the delusion you had that just because it was coming to the switch the game was magically going to be skyrimon battle stadium 20XX. Of course things don't make sense when you live in a fantasy world.
@CuteAnimeGirl
@CuteAnimeGirl 5 лет назад
cyber sleuth is coming to the switch and it looks as good as the PS4 release, I don't really buy any excuses gamefreak has for their laziness anymore. Other devs are showing them it CAN be done, and in fact many are making games for the switch knowing it's difficult to port the game and they still get it to work and look really good.
@chanhjohnnguyen1867
@chanhjohnnguyen1867 5 лет назад
Misc Sloan no
@_mako
@_mako 5 лет назад
Honestly they could've just gone with the B/W approach and focused mainly on the new Pokémon, while importing all older Pokémon straight from the 3DS games as part of the National Dex. Nobody would have complained about their relative "lower quality" because A) they wouldn't be in the main game so most people won't even see them much, and B) it's pretty understandable. At least the older Pokémon would've been in the game.
@raymondrennock534
@raymondrennock534 5 лет назад
You really hit all the targets there with the criticism, but I think there's one smaller point that you missed. Namely, you did talk about the anger slowly starting to form over the past few years, but I'd even go back to ORAS. Namely, when they cut the Battle Frontier, one of the most beloved parts of Gen 3 and 4, with the explanation (correct me if I'm wrong) being 'Well, we were gonna do it but it's not like anyone really cared about it anyways, you were just gonna be on yoru phone'. I.e: "We didn't think you'd want it that much, we're not sorry". Really, I'd almost say this goes back to the start of Generation 6 where all this problems started, with the criticism of three things, namely X and Y's much lower difficulty (which isn't that much of an issue), X and Y's treatment of event legendaries now being gimmies, instead of the events they had before like Heatran in Gen 4/5, or Shaymin in 4. People didn't like just being given a legendary, they like going and exploring (once they do the proper steps by unlocking said events) and finding that legendary, doing the event and getting the legendary that way, earning it. Finally, the biggest problem was the critical lack of after game. Once you finish the game, there's not much to do. The main point from all of this? None of those problems were fixed in future games. ORAS was a joke in terms of difficulty, not being scaled right at all with the EXP Share, and even without it. They fixed the legendary problem somewhat with the Delta Episode, but other than that, you really shouldn't expect much other than 'Go fly around, good luck'. Finally, one of ORAS's best after game features was cut, leaving the Battle Chateau that nobody had been a fan of. With the move to Sun and Moon, this difficulty issue was addressed again as while there were some more fun fights, such as the Totems, the game was still pretty easy. It wasn't as bad as before, but it was still pretty easy. Furthermore, unless I'm mistaken, they didn't give any thought to event legendaries at all, essentially being given away. Finally, we had the same lack of after game. Once again, this was touched on with the Ultra Beast searching, but still it wasn't much at all. I personally haven't played USUM, so I can't say if things changed, but I'll assume that not much changed in a year after the remake in terms of these issues (outside of the Ultra Necrozma fight giving more difficulty and fun). With all that in mind, people were already getting annoyed by this same formula with the after game, the same quality essentially for the battles and such, the same difficulty and this exploded not because of the pokemon missing (though it was a great part of it), but because the excuse of 'We're trying to make a more quality game' when we can see from the footage that it looks like not much has changed, and that was the straw that broke the camels back. People don't want to give Gamefreak another chance as they've already shown their laziness for the past handful of years, they want something to change. I'd say that the after comment of buckling down was a really really bad idea on Gamefreak's part as all it did was fan the fire. Try telling an angry mob that it sucks they're mad, but nothing's gonna change, it's not going to work. Personally, I'm voting with my wallet, I'm skipping this gen period, I'm not going to lay back and tell Gamefreak I'm okay with worse quality games. We've had Breath of the Wild come from the Switch, a masterpiece of the game and Gamefreak can't be bothered to put any effort in. EDIT: One thing you *did* miss however was that there was an official comment from Gamefreak saying 'We're not putting the main focus on this pokemon game, it's a side project while we work on Town', which was another thing that got the fans mad, that Gamefreak has so much potential for bringing the main series to console and they're wasting it all for no real reason
@raymondthrone7197
@raymondthrone7197 5 лет назад
For the record, USUM _was_ substantially more difficult, with some legitimately tricky totem fights and a generally expanded pool of pokemon that trainers used. It's probably at this point the most difficult main story of a pokemon game; the postgame also included some interesting battles as well. However, note this is at the cost of a tragically weaker story than the original Sun and Moon, and a general lack of substantial difference from the original game in almost every other respect. Comparing it to well-loved third versions of the past, and especially the previous set of third versions (Black 2 and White 2), it comes off as a lazy moneygrab with a few positive elements probably achieved by moving it out of Masuda's grasp for a little bit.
@abandonedchanneld8031
@abandonedchanneld8031 5 лет назад
I've been saying this for years, these issues started with X and Y and it's slowly went downhill. Highkey is a breath of fresh air to read someone else who sees this as well. It's the only game I beat in 12 hours first play-through on release day, it was a sign and everyone just kept saying 'It's just to make it easy for new players!' Yeah, we're on gen 8 now and we can't keep using that excuse anymore.
@TheEngineer28
@TheEngineer28 5 лет назад
Holy crap. I remember when I got Pokémon White, and I went to that lighthouse near like the 3rd Gym, and I beat up some Plasma Grunts to find a Victini at the end. I battled with it through the entire game, and loved it as my own. I loved how they handled that event. If Gamefreak could maybe do something like that again, that would be awesome. Eeeeeeeexcept for the fact that it couldn’t learn V-Create, but eh. Could care less.
@beta511ee4
@beta511ee4 5 лет назад
Raymond Rennock Eh, I don’t think BoTW is THAT great.
@raymondrennock534
@raymondrennock534 5 лет назад
@@TheEngineer28 100%, that event was my favorite in Black, and I could feel the love that went into Gen 5, from the original to the sequel that felt just as nice. Honestly, I don't know what happened from Gen 5 to 6, but it was a big mistake. We went 3D, but at what cost?
@Phoenix-iz2ey
@Phoenix-iz2ey 5 лет назад
remember how they said that lets go was for casual/go fans and that sword and shield would be for hardcore veterans lol
@Naruku2121
@Naruku2121 5 лет назад
Pepperidge Farms Remembers
@matthewmartin1852
@matthewmartin1852 5 лет назад
that's what really bothers me. It's been a steady decline of how they can keep old content. Gen 7 "You get no national dex, despite us having made a habit of just copy and pasting dex enteries from past games. But at least you can still have them, even if we won't tell you about this pokemon. Lets Go: "you can't transfer any non kanto pokemon. And the gameplay is different. AAND there's even less extra content then the GBA remakes" well ok, it's not like it's Gen 8. Gen 8: EVEN LESS CONTENT FOR DOUBLE THE PRICE
@threatfiree
@threatfiree 5 лет назад
@@matthewmartin1852 r
@banjofangirl3458
@banjofangirl3458 5 лет назад
Oh that's actually sad
@justice8718
@justice8718 5 лет назад
Matthew Martin I played ‘Pokémon yellow’ and I have to say that ‘let’s go’ actually has more content in it.
@michaelreh7378
@michaelreh7378 5 лет назад
Honestly, I'm more miffed by the shoddy graphics, animations, and gameplay difficulty. National Dex is just the cherry on top
@michaelreh7378
@michaelreh7378 5 лет назад
@@letsgetfluffy3138 yes, shoddy gameplay difficulty as well
@michaelreh7378
@michaelreh7378 5 лет назад
@@letsgetfluffy3138 ? What's your problem guy? The games have gone downhill in difficulty since XY. I'm merely pointing out a trend
@silaslorde3
@silaslorde3 5 лет назад
The difficulty is a lot easier you can the original Ruby and Saphire was nails when I was a kid, maybe I was just dumb, but the space between leaving Slateport and returning to Petalburg was always the hardest for me. I'd be thinking about how I could counter them before I picked my starter when I replayed the game but ORAS was a joke compared I mean I still enjoyed it but let's be honest they weren't exactly hard. Sun and Moon were hard only because it attempted to outlast you people did beat the game because who wanted to go through an hour of Tutorial Island? I never once thought to myself 'wow this battle is tough' I was a little intimidated by Lusamine but that was it and she still wasn't that difficult to beat if I remember right.
@thelastcoolguyonearth4858
@thelastcoolguyonearth4858 5 лет назад
None of those would have even been problems to most people if they weren't the excuse for the National Dex getting canned
@KonoGufo
@KonoGufo 5 лет назад
@@thelastcoolguyonearth4858 No, they would have. It's a mainline Pokemon game on a home console -- not a handheld -- in the year 2019, while being a part of the most successful media franchise in history. It's not acceptable for the games to be THIS stuck in the past.
@kenshin6553
@kenshin6553 5 лет назад
My biggest problem is that Masuda's explanations make no sense and I don't think they're being honest. Animations and models are obviously reused from previous generations. And having every Pokémon in the game has never had a negative impact on battling
@justice8718
@justice8718 5 лет назад
It’s not they created a whole new region and a big list of new Pokémon... Oh wait.
@V-Jes
@V-Jes 5 лет назад
Well it actually has negative impact on battling especially in VGC, just look at gen 6 VGC with 2014 only allowing allowing pokemon in Kalos dex, 2015 that allows all but mascot legendaries and 2016 what allows even mascot legendaries to be used and just compare how diverse the teams are in 2014 over the other 2 years where it's mostly just copy paste teams for sake of just winning. i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/196/275/b7d.jpg
@marsupialmole3926
@marsupialmole3926 5 лет назад
@@V-Jes Maybe they should just ban those Pokemon from competitive battling, it's not like they can't separate Pokemon out like that, they've had the ability to do it since gen 6
@justice8718
@justice8718 5 лет назад
Mole, that didn’t stop them from coming back.
@byronlyons3548
@byronlyons3548 5 лет назад
@@marsupialmole3926 They've did that, more than once. Yet nothing really worked or stayed that way for long.
@xenobestx8423
@xenobestx8423 5 лет назад
Congratulations! Your Gen 7 has evolved to Gen 8. But Gen 8 wants to learn “how to make every Pokémon fan angry”. What current moves shall be forgotten? Open World. Pikachu Techno Music. *National Pokédex* Are you sure you want to forget “National Pokédex”? *YES* NO Congratulations! Your Gen 8 has learned “how to make every Pokémon fan angry”!
@TheHikariOne
@TheHikariOne 5 лет назад
Underrated comment of the year
@ThomatoSauce
@ThomatoSauce 5 лет назад
This needs more likes.
@Spika94
@Spika94 5 лет назад
I'm not angry.
@crimsonemperor2219
@crimsonemperor2219 5 лет назад
Should have gotten rid of Pikachu
@user-mh9dx7nz2r
@user-mh9dx7nz2r 5 лет назад
Not all of us..
@citrine_feline
@citrine_feline 5 лет назад
"We're giving pokemon more personality" the pokemon company says, using the same models and animations since gen 6, and not adding more personality to said animations
@justice8718
@justice8718 5 лет назад
Wooloo rolls backwards when it feels endanger.
@pirateguykarl
@pirateguykarl 5 лет назад
6 years. The same models for 6 years and 10 pokemon games. It's a new kinda of lazy and we should all be done with it.
@justice8718
@justice8718 5 лет назад
Tara Bums Because they future-proofed the models.
@pirateguykarl
@pirateguykarl 5 лет назад
@@justice8718 They're outdated and new models should be made if they say they are gonna make them. Bottom line. Period. Not discussing.
@justice8718
@justice8718 5 лет назад
Tara... You do know that the towns and cities are modeled from scratch... right?
@ryaquaza3offical
@ryaquaza3offical 5 лет назад
Pokemon 1993-2018: “Gotta catch em all!” Pokemon 2019: “catch a few of them lmao”
@chillplayer1234
@chillplayer1234 5 лет назад
Ryaquaza 1 Actually it was 1996-2016 cause there was no National Dex in Let’s Go either.
@ryaquaza3offical
@ryaquaza3offical 5 лет назад
Let’s go isn’t a mainstream title tho, it’s more of a spin off like Pokemon Go
@billquinton5565
@billquinton5565 5 лет назад
@@ryaquaza3offical Nope, Let's Go is a main series game. Also Ruby/Sapphire didn't have every mon either.
@viviangrace1807
@viviangrace1807 5 лет назад
@@billquinton5565 Let's Go is counted as a main series RPG? That's debatable. I'd call it a spin-off.
@viviangrace1807
@viviangrace1807 5 лет назад
@@ryaquaza3offical There was no incentive to catch them all in SuMo/USUM because of no national dex. I'd put ORAS as the last 'gotta catch em all' game.
@rivel1894
@rivel1894 5 лет назад
4:08 I feel personally attacked as breloom is my favorite Pokémon and I have had one since emerald XD
@laslosermcuseless1574
@laslosermcuseless1574 5 лет назад
I read that as emerald and xd like damb you have to level 100 breloom from the original gen
@mrsatan2632
@mrsatan2632 5 лет назад
It's fine dude. I feel personally attacked whenever people throw Mareep in the trash because of Wooloo.
@spectacularsceptile3879
@spectacularsceptile3879 5 лет назад
@@mrsatan2632 yeah wooloo is great and all but can it do lightning?
@mrsatan2632
@mrsatan2632 5 лет назад
@@spectacularsceptile3879 I'm only scared that Mareep will get replaced. Idc about any other pokemon getting snapped.
@boiwifeyasmr4U
@boiwifeyasmr4U 5 лет назад
It used to be my favorite, but it's still up there so I understand that.
@kirbysmith64
@kirbysmith64 5 лет назад
Sakurai: EVERYONE IS HERE! Masuda: ...Well that's a bit extra, doncha think?
@notIAmPlayer
@notIAmPlayer 5 лет назад
Well, at least Sakurai is a dedicated person to try to do that.
@pogfrog9968
@pogfrog9968 5 лет назад
This is why we need more game designers like Sakurai. Minus the overworking themselves, of course
@GELTONZ
@GELTONZ 5 лет назад
In the future, Smash will have more Pokemon in it than Pokemon.
@valiantedgerx985
@valiantedgerx985 5 лет назад
@@notIAmPlayer Dedicated? Have you seen his work schedule while making melee? 40 hours straight at work, 4 to sleep.
@henrygutierrez3243
@henrygutierrez3243 5 лет назад
@@valiantedgerx985 And Melee held people over for more than half a decade. 1 year later and people are already wondering where the new pokemon games are.
@wesnohathas1993
@wesnohathas1993 5 лет назад
The annualization of the Pokemon series has been slowly killing it for years. The design philosophy behind these games is fundamentally flawed, and without any significant change being made, these problems were inevitable.
@FrostGlader
@FrostGlader 5 лет назад
Most of the spin-off titles of the last 2 generations have been heavily Pay-to-Win, and the ones that aren’t are really nothing to write home about. The series is suffering.
@wesnohathas1993
@wesnohathas1993 5 лет назад
The shift to mobile games certainly isn't helping the situation either. The disparity between what Game Freak wants to do with the Pokemon series and what the fans want from it just keeps growing.
@theurbanreanimator7244
@theurbanreanimator7244 5 лет назад
To be fair the series will never be worse than generations 1-4
@miscsloan8834
@miscsloan8834 5 лет назад
blah blah blah, no national dex doesn't break the game or make the game bad.
@TheAbsol7448
@TheAbsol7448 5 лет назад
I was so mad that they made a great design philosophy with Gen 5 and immediately threw it out the window. They had so much potential for carrying the series forward after that.
@thatoneguyfizz6315
@thatoneguyfizz6315 4 года назад
I'm part of the people who are just kinda disappointed. I love having all of my old pokemon with me and that's mainly why it makes me sad. Another reason is because there are a lot of fan favourites being kicked out. I'm not being Toxic I'm just again, disappointed.
@SpankSandwitch99
@SpankSandwitch99 5 лет назад
Pokemon is no longer a priority for them. Pokemon Home is the replacement for pokemon bank that they barely did anything with. They claim the work and quality involved would be too much, and then proceed to show us animations and quality that's virtually the same as on the handhelds. The anger is very much justified when they lay all these dominoes right out in front of us
@lukerbom12
@lukerbom12 5 лет назад
Big fact: The Nintendo Switch is a handheld.
@eevee1583
@eevee1583 5 лет назад
@@lukerbom12 It still should have better graphics though
@lukerbom12
@lukerbom12 5 лет назад
​@@eevee1583 Maybe, but if it's designed to be played as a handheld, it's probably fine. Games like Mario Odyssey are designed for the big screen and aren't quite the same when you play them on handheld. If Nintendo didn't merge the two then this game would never, EVER be for a "home console". I'm confused why so many people think of it like they are choosing to bring Pokémon main series to a home console for the first time and were getting hyped for that aspect.
@StrikeTeam99
@StrikeTeam99 5 лет назад
The root of all this is pokemon go being very profitable
@VGamingJunkieVT
@VGamingJunkieVT 5 лет назад
The animations clearly weren't improved and the models were already quite high poly on the 3DS, all they really have to do is improve the textures.
@The_Killah29
@The_Killah29 5 лет назад
>"It's cus making all these HD models for pokemon is taking too much time." I'd believe that if Gamefreak didn't already make HD models for all the pokemon (gen 1 - 6 at the time) in order to save time on development for future titles. Coupled with the fact Gamefreak wants to shift away from making Pokemon games and do other things (like that totally not a forgettable game 'Town' that they are currently working on) and having the b-team do it instead. Gamefreak is just lying about how making these games is difficult when they've had the core battle system down since Ruby/Saphire.
@averybrown7312
@averybrown7312 5 лет назад
Yeah I get it, but why hate on "Town?" It looks fun
@xXSCDTXx
@xXSCDTXx 5 лет назад
Avery Brown it looks really generic. But people are allowed to have a whatever opinion they want.
@thegreenassassin553
@thegreenassassin553 5 лет назад
@@averybrown7312 Regardless of wether it will be good or not, people are pissed about the fact GF has gone on record saying their main priority lies with Town, and not with their main franchise that people love and made them like GF in the first place. No matter how good Town may be, that fact is gonna turn a lot of Pokémon fans against it.
@strawberrypupper897
@strawberrypupper897 5 лет назад
Masuda is either lying or entirely incorrect and oblivious. These HD models are completely recycled gens 1-7, only the new gen 8 Mons need to be made, same as when SM came out, just do it. The "quality" is just minor effects added to models to polish them, an old car with a new paint job and a shiny polish isn't new, or different, just recycled and refurbished for much less effort. The balance mentality is garbage, pokemon was never balanced, never will be, imbalance per every gen is just a thing now, let competitive formats sift out the BS so salty rage quitters don't cry as often, THAT'S ALL.
@AkuTenshiiZero
@AkuTenshiiZero 5 лет назад
I think it's time to accept that GameFreak was never prepared to make 3D games. They have been floundering since 2013, all the best 3D Pokemon spinoffs were made by other companies. Nintendo needs to take this franchise and give it to someone else, like Genius Sonority (XD, Coliseim, Battle Revolution).
@phoenixshadow6633
@phoenixshadow6633 5 лет назад
My problem is that Game Freak is running on an archaic design philosophy of churning out a game every year. It's not as easy as it was years ago. The jump to 3D makes designing stuff harder by far. A delayed game can be a good game, but a bad game is bad forever.
@RobGradyVO
@RobGradyVO 5 лет назад
but....they dont release a main stream title every year.
@AviatorZoroark
@AviatorZoroark 5 лет назад
Thing is pre-3D they had a development cycle of like 3/4 years. They made this decision after leaving sprite work behind, which is even worse.
@phoenixshadow6633
@phoenixshadow6633 5 лет назад
@@RobGradyVO I know it's not every year, but I still think the development cycles of Pokemon are really fast. SM was 2016, USUM was 2017, LPLE was 2018, and SwSh will be 2019. Game Freak develops these pretty quickly and all at once. It's not good for quality.
@RobGradyVO
@RobGradyVO 5 лет назад
@@phoenixshadow6633 I will agree that the quality needs to be put in especially considering this is the main game for a multi BILLION dollar franchise.
@phoenixshadow6633
@phoenixshadow6633 5 лет назад
​@@AviatorZoroark Which is insane when it comes to making games for this console generation.
@zelg.5551
@zelg.5551 5 лет назад
To be fair, the "it's for balance" defense is laughable to put it nicely. Balance wasn't a thing in the mainline series since... Well, from the very beginning, actually.
@caviaporcellus7253
@caviaporcellus7253 5 лет назад
Zel G. “We want to balance our series.” Adds a mega legendary that needs no item and later makes all Pokémon able to grow huge and one shot small ones.
@colossaldonut5190
@colossaldonut5190 5 лет назад
I mean at least they did do some balancing during Gen 7, aside from Mega Rayquaza at least they nerfed Gale Wings and gave Gengar Cursed Body so it had another weakness (along with other changes and buffs to stats for certain Pokemon to try and help them out).
@Mngalahad
@Mngalahad 5 лет назад
What about beedrill? He became relevant because of the mega and only became UU. Not broken. Now hes back to being useless.
@kwayke9
@kwayke9 5 лет назад
@@caviaporcellus7253 Smogon will probably just ban Dynamax imo. Gigantamax is another question tho
@Anna-tk7ui
@Anna-tk7ui 5 лет назад
They learned the wrong lesson from Thanos and his balance.
@AnAmericanMusician
@AnAmericanMusician 5 лет назад
It's not just the lack of Pokemon. It's the fact that gamefreak clearly doesn't like making Pokemon games anymore and it shows. 1) The lack of any major graphical improvements 2) The switching from mega evolutions to just making the Pokemon big 3) the lack of any unique animations to the point where most attacks are just the Pokemon in their idle state bouncing around a bit 4) the challenge almost completely being removed from the game in the hopes that it'll attract more people to the game 5) post game content getting lazier and lazier with each new game 6) ignoring the audience who built you up in the first place and calling them a bunch of whiners when they have very legitimate complaints Just imagine if Mario Odyssey came out and it only had 3 worlds, no new enemies and the same sound effects from Mario 64. Would it be too much to get angry over that?
@SquidwardProfilePic
@SquidwardProfilePic 5 лет назад
This Is what I've been saying everywhere. People are looking at the situation from outside in and they think the only problem is "boo hoo they're removing pokemon" meanwhile the reason they're removing the Pokemon is non existent and everything theyve told us have been blatant lies. We're upset that were being used and lied to, not that the national dex is gone.
@justice8718
@justice8718 5 лет назад
You’re full of nostalgia. Gen 7 had games that were harder than the previous generations. Plus, the giant Pokémon gimmick was fully thought out and it allowed much more Pokémon to have a chance to use the unique abilities, unlike mega evolutions. And they even made the gimmick lore relevant. So don’t you dare pretend they were lazy about it. Have you looked at gen 7 3ds games? The visuals in there looked fantastic and they had pushed the 3ds to its limits (unlike 99% of other 3ds titles). The only problem with the games was that the system wasn’t quite as strong and it didn’t have enough resolution to create the full vision of the game as intended.
@lina_chan241
@lina_chan241 5 лет назад
I compare this situation to Monster Hunter series. As they moved to the other consoles from 3DS and Switch number of monsters decreased from 93 in Generations Ultimate to 31 in World. But Capcom did a really good job on improving the quality of other aspects, so fans were not outraged by the cut.
@creeeamy7133
@creeeamy7133 5 лет назад
@@justice8718 Big pokemon is lazy dude lol. Mega Evolutions were unique and interesting forms of fan favourite Pokemon with new abilities, typings and stats that you had to factor into your team. The designs were always amazing too. Everyone has a mega of a Pokemon they at least really like. Dynamax is "pokemon big with strong move" yeah wow, I really like I can have big scizor in specific battles as opposed to mega scizor whenever I wanted him. If I can even have scizor wheeze.
@AATIDK
@AATIDK 5 лет назад
@@justice8718 They have nothing on the Mega Evolution lore or design. It's a stand in, and instead of a decent gimmick, it's big bois doing big boi things. It's incredibly lazy no matter how much you pretend it's polished. The gen 7 models were fantastic in a higher resolution, but they could have easily made them much better, especially with all the extra memory from the missing pokemon. It's not nostalgia when the older product is very objectively better than the new. Stop defending poor practices. The games needed more time to come out, the workload should have been shared between a much larger group. This is a cash grab and a morally reprehensible one at that.
@PrimalKevYT
@PrimalKevYT 5 лет назад
Switch: *is literally 10 times stronger then the 3ds* Gamefreak: Keeping all Pokemon would be too much...
@flarewolf
@flarewolf 5 лет назад
That point fails to take into account the fact that they aren't just adding existing models to a more powerful system. They have to use more of that power to make a better looking model and before someone says that they are using the same models as 3ds that isn't true and even if it were the animations are updated and that takes power too. And the rage about the Dexit is kind of weird to me. I mean we all knew that it would have to happen eventually. Either that or the pokemon company would stop making new games.
@eevee1583
@eevee1583 5 лет назад
@@flarewolf Oh please educate yourself. They clearly are copy and pasting models from the 3Ds games
@Letgoit2
@Letgoit2 5 лет назад
@@flarewolf not only that they are copy pasting modells there is literally a video online that wrecks gamefreak argument about the scaling and changing of the modell by a modell creator himself. Which even gamefreak enacted fast and forced the guy to take down his own video. Now its privat and u cn acces it only via direct link. EDIT: here bro i got u covered i had to search really hard. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-T7jRzKIqvjI.html and the video that provided the link ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mbDOrjE4ka4.html
@Antasma1
@Antasma1 5 лет назад
It has nothing to do with hardware limitations, but the standards they now have to meet
@flarewolf
@flarewolf 5 лет назад
@@eevee1583 ok first I have educated myself as I literally went to school for game design. Second what is clearly true and what is actually true aren't always the same. Third even if the models are the same we have no way of knowing how many new pokemon will be added and there for how many new models. Fourth models are only a fraction of the work that goes into game design. You also have animation , script writing ( for both dialogue and the programs of the game) not to mention the new models and animation of the human characters. So before you accuse me of being uneducated I would suggest you stop and think that some people might actually know what they are talking about.
@beanburrito4405
@beanburrito4405 5 лет назад
Now it’s come out that Gamefreak doesn’t even have this game as their main focus right now... talk about out-of-line priorities
@shadowgear7032
@shadowgear7032 5 лет назад
What is there main focus then
@ilngsisfh
@ilngsisfh 5 лет назад
Shadowgear Town, a game they aren’t being forced to make on a deadline, and one they can properly make and enjoy making unlike Pokémon which requires a game every year from Them
@nothingtoseehere6142
@nothingtoseehere6142 5 лет назад
@@ilngsisfh Town looks so run-of-the-mill, it makes me sick. Pokémon never had the best graphics or story, but stood out for being original.
@thegreatBarbossa
@thegreatBarbossa 5 лет назад
If you look at Game Freaks history, you'll notice that Pokemon games are the only successful games they ever made, they are literally the deffinition of a one-trick pony. In fact if I look at how pokemon games never really change, it seems to me like they are literally not competent enough to make anything successful, that isn't pokemon.
@GJDZ02
@GJDZ02 5 лет назад
It's crazy to me how THE MOST PROFITABLE FRANCHISE OF ALL TIME isn't their focus... Not only do they have the money to get a lot of people, but there must be hundres of thousands of people who would love to work on a project like Pokémon... Just think of the fangames and fanart that are everywhere. But no... "Let's put our staff's priority into this bland looking new game instead"... Sure, it will be just ss successful as Drill Dozer and Tembo the Badass Elephant I hope.
@Boltizar49
@Boltizar49 5 лет назад
I’m calling it now, there’s going to be an unbalanced meta game due to a handful of Pokémon that would have been otherwise kept in check by Pokémon excluded from the Galar Dex. Game Freak talked about better visuals and better animation and both are recycled. They also tend not to update their content until a new game drops so I’m doubtful of balance patches. Plus they change rules for VGC regularly and have already been able to create ban lists, there’s no reason they couldn’t have used a ban list approach per season to keep battles fresh. Speaking of patches, I wouldn’t have minded this so much if they hadn’t shot down updating the game through patches to let more Pokémon in. You’re right in that they can’t push it back but we’re at a time and on a system where you can update games after they’re out but they already said they wouldn’t do that. Pokémon is one of my favorite things in the world and this coming from Game Freak really sucked out all the hype I had for these games. I was really excited for the idea of console Sinnoh remakes, but I don’t know if I’d even want them with this policy in place.
@pulsefel9210
@pulsefel9210 5 лет назад
Yes and the current meta is so balanced there are barely double digits of competitive Pokemon
@ivanivanovic5857
@ivanivanovic5857 4 года назад
Can I just point out that Clefable broke the meta in Gen 6 and 7 and it was kept in SWSH, while stuff like Samurott, which was never a problem with the games' balance and is obviously going to have more sentimental value to more people because it's a starter, got cut. Great excuse there.
@jacksonnunberg4249
@jacksonnunberg4249 5 лет назад
Here's my question, what's the point of Pokemon Home? Do they expect fans to be okay with just letting their old pokemon just sit on their smartphones?
@trisryan4161
@trisryan4161 5 лет назад
I'm worried that eventually they'll discontinue poke bank and I'll have to move them in regardless if I can put them into a game afterwards so they'll either sit there for years or remain in my old games forever.
@SpiritOfSpite
@SpiritOfSpite 5 лет назад
@@trisryan4161 Reminder if you forget to pay the fee your Pokemon get straight up deleted it's gonna be the same for home and remember if it's not on the dex you can't put it in the game ergo if you put a pokemon into home and they aren't in the dex you'll be stuck paying lest you want your little friends deleted
@omnom6934
@omnom6934 5 лет назад
Charmie Charneco wait pokémon bank pokémon get deleted? I swear mine haven’t been and I haven’t renewed it for a couple years.
@SpiritOfSpite
@SpiritOfSpite 5 лет назад
@@omnom6934 When was the last time you checked they're supposed to be deleted from Game Freaks Cloud Network
@Iron_Stigmata
@Iron_Stigmata 5 лет назад
@@SpiritOfSpite OOF, that's a good point. That's a really nefarious design model from Gamefreak there, huh?
@Gameface9782
@Gameface9782 5 лет назад
I think Dynamax is stupid. Megas were fun, Zmoves were less fun but unique and enjoyable, Dynamax looks like they’re just putting a Pokémon under a magnifying glass with nothing special but the size
@BriarValley
@BriarValley 5 лет назад
I'm mad about the dex itself, but I think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned the excuses and buildup. It's clear from their statements they don't really care about us. Gotta love those memes though
@leonardofarias8843
@leonardofarias8843 5 лет назад
We will make them care when sales go haywire
@BriarValley
@BriarValley 5 лет назад
@@leonardofarias8843 Here's hoping
@leonardofarias8843
@leonardofarias8843 5 лет назад
@@BriarValley Our fury won't go by unnonticed!
@BriarValley
@BriarValley 5 лет назад
@@leonardofarias8843 They kinda already doing that. But we gotta keep our gusto!
@dr6559
@dr6559 5 лет назад
Leonardo Farias I hate to burst your bubble but I think it was one of the highest post e3 preordered games.
@ItsCosmoTewulf
@ItsCosmoTewulf 5 лет назад
Personally, I'm really pissed off about this whole situation. Not only are there only a select few Pokemon that are going to return instead of all of them like before, they're also giving some very flimsy excuses in an attempt to justify this action.
@galacticdunny
@galacticdunny 5 лет назад
Cosmo Tewulf Yeah and people who defend GameFreak only insult the #BringBackNationalDex movement people rather than give reasons against us
@mondelsson
@mondelsson 5 лет назад
See, I think that game freak shouldn't have said anything until they could have given a full press release that explained in detail why they were cutting Pokémon. Just dropping it in the gameplay section that most people wouldn't watch kind of felt like they were trying to bury the news. That being said, there are a lot of people who are making the bring back the national Dex movement look spoilt. They're the ones that are saying that masuda should die, he should be fired etc. It's making people judge everyone who's using the hashtag as childish.
@kamenriderla4314
@kamenriderla4314 5 лет назад
you do realize they have to make all these models from scratch right? They don't just port them over from previous versions and call it a day.
@ItsCosmoTewulf
@ItsCosmoTewulf 5 лет назад
@@kamenriderla4314 You really believe that the models were made from scratch? Take a look at the models and you can tell that they're just the models from the Let's Go games (which in turn are just slightly graphically better versions of the X and Y models), just slightly different graphics-wise. After all, nobody on Game Freak ever said the models were made from scratch. As a matter of fact, the interview with Junichi Masuda where he supposedly said that the models were made from scratch, it actually came from a mistranslation.
@guiteshima
@guiteshima 4 года назад
Cosmo Tewulf Well actually it might be surprising but....they are just the X and Y models, the upgraded models you're referring to are of when the pokemon is set to follow you in Let's Go, in which case they did modify the X and Y models *slightly* to make them look better, in my opinion the X and Y models work just fine, they are of console quality and were made like this because Gamefreak wanted to save time in development of future games, a smart decision in fact. What really makes the models look new (or what would) are the textures which don't even take that long to make, anyway your point still stands, these models DEFINITELY WEREN'T made from scratch, porting the models is extremely easy and a team of professionals not being able to do this even after doing it once already is simply laughable. I did this comment mostly to reinforce what you're saying and because i wanted to clarify that these are just the X and Y models :P
@thenomadsclan6238
@thenomadsclan6238 5 лет назад
you forgot to mention that gamefreak has gone on record saying that their #2 team is working on this while their priority is town and an unreleased game called gearbox.... that got some fans angry Edit: i meant Gear Project
@aethix1986
@aethix1986 5 лет назад
From my understanding, Gear Project isn't an individual title, but the general initiative for developing original IPs. If I have this correct, Town is part of Gear Project.
@thenomadsclan6238
@thenomadsclan6238 5 лет назад
@@aethix1986 oh? thanks for clarifying i didn't know that
@Asdayasman
@Asdayasman 5 лет назад
The Nomad's Clan FIRST POKKEN NOW GUILTY GEAR
@Thejackel79
@Thejackel79 5 лет назад
I don't get why they would put the B team on this. It's their first HD Pokemon game. You would think they would want this game to look and play the best.
@neo-didact9285
@neo-didact9285 5 лет назад
Maybe because they're tired of working on Pokemon for so long?
@august4006
@august4006 5 лет назад
Im upset but mostly because of other issues as well like subpar graphics and reused models and animations. I feel like game freak’s excuses arent that good.
@lauchlinyurchuk1301
@lauchlinyurchuk1301 5 лет назад
They said since X and Y that they would be doing this because there'd be no point in making models from scratch, game after game. It's like getting mad at a store being closed on Sunday even though the sign said it would be closed on Sundays, they clearly didn't factor in that they'd have to make a game for thew Switch, which wasn't even in Development at the time
@dylanmcla
@dylanmcla 5 лет назад
Sure you are.
@triforceofcourage100
@triforceofcourage100 5 лет назад
They’re outright lies is what they are
@lubricantrecords4160
@lubricantrecords4160 5 лет назад
@@lauchlinyurchuk1301 ok, but the literal excuse for not including national dex was to put more time into graphical fidelity and improved animations... so if they're reusing the animations, and the graphics look like poo poo, where is all the effort being put?
@DemonEyeXGamer
@DemonEyeXGamer 5 лет назад
@@lauchlinyurchuk1301 actually they said they future proofed the models. Which means less work long term.
@Killinshots
@Killinshots 5 лет назад
I get that no national-dex is a big deal for some people, but are we just gonna ignore the lack of Mega Evolutions? Dynamax seems lame in comparison
@eevee1583
@eevee1583 5 лет назад
Exactly, they are cutting out good features and replacing them with lazy ones.
@Valanway
@Valanway 5 лет назад
GF cuts almost all of their new features that people like, in every subsequent game. There's entire lists of cut features, from Battle Frontier and Contests, to Super training and O-power, it's ridiculous. Mega Evolution was one of the coolest features they added to give life to popular mons that haven't been in the spotlight for years, or ever.
@siddyfisher1765
@siddyfisher1765 5 лет назад
and they spent time developing that garbage.
@MrCunashgi
@MrCunashgi 5 лет назад
I would've rather have 10 new megas and 5 new ultra beasts than the dinamax feature for every pokemon.
@NekoNinja13
@NekoNinja13 5 лет назад
I agree with this really hard!
@pyroronnie2473
@pyroronnie2473 5 лет назад
Whats funny is when they first announced this game was in development. They promised ALL POKEMON and then they did the e3 announcement and exposed their lie and hype
@jamesayewale5695
@jamesayewale5695 4 года назад
They never did.
@Phoenix_Blader_93
@Phoenix_Blader_93 4 года назад
When did they promise that
@braintwo3398
@braintwo3398 3 года назад
Ohhh crap
@gaelc4016
@gaelc4016 5 лет назад
After 11 years of being in the pokemon community this has been the angriest and mean I've seen the community
@Dracomut
@Dracomut 5 лет назад
Indeed, the closest I’ve seen the community be this mad was before Black and White got released
@joegreen3802
@joegreen3802 5 лет назад
Dracomut Gen 7 release was a pretty close second
@AlphaladZXA
@AlphaladZXA 5 лет назад
Most torn fans have been... sad day
@alldayagain
@alldayagain 5 лет назад
Same. And i geel its really undeserved
@Willskull
@Willskull 5 лет назад
only fair! they don't care anyway
@Codraroll
@Codraroll 5 лет назад
Honestly, I think the way they handled it was the worst. It's an excellent case study in terrible PR. First, they had everyone pretty hyped about the games after showing trailers and gameplay footage. Until the last three minutes of the Treehouse session, everything was going swimmingly. Fans had observed that the graphics weren't exactly top notch, but the hype of Switchmons finally happening overshadowed that. Then Masuda dropped this bombshell as a parting remark. One of the last official words about the games at E3 was a piece of seriously bad news. Then "Goodbye, we will return with more news at an unspecified time, and not a second before". Meaning this bit of bad news was the last lingering bit of information in fans' heads. Epic blunder right there. Like farting just as you rise from your chair at the end of a job interview. And yet that's only the beginning. There was no apology. No explaining why this was a hard choice. Just a matter-of-fact statement, snuck into the middle of a longer paragraph like it's no big deal. "The professor is named Magnolia. The second Gym Leader Nessa likes spaghetti. From now on, the core series Pokémon games won't contain all Pokémon anymore. The Champion wears a cape because he's the champion." No respect for the severity of the news, as if it wouldn't matter. The lack of context made it even worse. "We chose to take away some Pokémon because it was too much work for us." They're explaining why it is convenient for them, but not why it makes the game better for the players. The effective message is "We gave up and the game is worse now, hope you still like it enough to pay full price for it." That's taking consumer loyalty for granted as an unlimited resource, which is a huge no. Failing Marketing 101 as well as Hindsight 101 right on the spot. Then the flimsy excuses. I can fully and completely guarantee that every single Pokémon fan with the means to follow that session, with the means to hear Masuda's message, also has access to various fan sites/channels/communities who'd rip the excuses to shreds. If the viewers aren't savvy enough to find those fan outlets, they wouldn't be savvy enough to view the Direct in the first place. Absolutely none of the viewers would take the excuses of "balance" and "too much work" at face value in the long run. And then they completely let go of the narrative, leaving fans to seek out other fans to understand the implications of the statement. As stated above, TPC had no intention to fill the roaring silence after Masuda's shocking piece of news, but outlets like Pokémon RU-vidrs or forum threads would happily spell out the worst-case scenario for you. The Pokémon Company doesn't even *have* a social media presence to communicate with fans. Thus, there's no way for them to put out the fire. The only thing fans could do was to watch the trailers and gameplay over again in light of the bad news, and conclude that Game Freak made a sacrifice of several hundred Pokémon (the number is an assumption, but that's all we have to go by since Game Freak didn't provide a number themselves) without giving much in return for it. Better graphics? Upon closer examination, they are poo. Better game balance? Upon closer examination, the "Kalos Pentagon" system introduced two generations ago could be used to the exact same result, without reducing the amount of content in the game. It can't be either of the given excuses, TPC is silent so they can't even explain it if they turn out to be valid after all, and so we're left to draw our own conclusions. Surprise surprise, fans conclude that Game Freak is lazy. I'm going out on a limb and assuming Game Freak isn't being lazy, that there is a hype-worthy feature that fans will love but which wasn't feasible to implement for every Pokémon. But that feature is meant to be the centrepiece of the next big announcement. On TPC's announcement calendar, it probably says "Late February, announce games. Early June, showcase Wild Area and Dynamax. Late August, showcase other big feature". But August is way, way too late to give context for a piece of bad news dropped in June. Dexit completely sidetracked the fandom, crashed the hype train and generated a screaming mob. Whatever they show next needs to be a seriously great piece of news to get the fans back. It's just that nobody has any faith it will be. Congrats Pokémon. Now go join Sonic the Hedgehog, Sim City, Rollercoaster Tycoon and Star Wars Battlefront in the "We were beloved, took it for granted, grew complacent, made awful decisions and learned nothing from it" corner.
@e1iteyoshi998
@e1iteyoshi998 5 лет назад
You hit the nail on the head.
@grizzly_manbanimation8436
@grizzly_manbanimation8436 2 года назад
Yep and I would like to add to the problem of not including every Pokémon anymore. If your favorite Pokémon is not a very popular one it is not likely that it will appear in games over the next few years or so. I’m sure there are Pokémon that they’re never going to get rid of entirely like Pikachu and Eevee. However there are some Pokémon that are not very popular but are still beloved by some that will likely not make the cut of most of the new games coming out because of the popularity factor. Like you’re just gonna have to deal with the fact that your favorite Pokémon could be excluded from the roster each time a new game is released. Honestly this is something I considered leaving the franchise for I’m not gonna lie. I’m glad I didn’t and was able to push past it. However it is something I will never forgive. I stand firmly in the “this is a dumb idea“ corner and I will die on that hill. However I still can’t bring myself to outright leave the franchise over it.
@flippinfluff6778
@flippinfluff6778 5 лет назад
Weird this Yu Gi Oh channel is uploading pokemon content
@almogz9486
@almogz9486 5 лет назад
you shall not whoosh me stranger!
@greenredbluezombie7793
@greenredbluezombie7793 5 лет назад
almogz 9 r/whoooosh
@almogz9486
@almogz9486 5 лет назад
@@greenredbluezombie7793 you cant whoosh me if i specifically didnt get whooshed!
@emmetth3726
@emmetth3726 5 лет назад
ROAST
@greenredbluezombie7793
@greenredbluezombie7793 5 лет назад
almogz 9 but I just did
@LilyHooper
@LilyHooper 4 года назад
imagine a mainline pokemon game with only 38% of the pokemon in it
@Phoenix_Blader_93
@Phoenix_Blader_93 4 года назад
Imagine a *GBA* ROM hack having more mons in it then a *Switch* game
@CovinDirefang
@CovinDirefang 5 лет назад
The reason I'm upset about this is one you kind of touched on, but not in the way I'm upset about it. They're going to rush this game out, charge us $60, and take out one of the core features that has been a staple in every single Pokemon game since Gen 2, essentially removing their classic tagline with this decision, and what's going to happen next year? They're going to remake the game like they always do. And the announcement that comes out of that? NATIONAL DEX RETURNS! I'm pissed off about it because they're purposefully releasing a worse game because they're getting too greedy to give the game the full development time it deserves and so that they can double dip by releasing the game that they should've originally sold us as the remake.
@jacobrodriguez5289
@jacobrodriguez5289 5 лет назад
Actually gen 3. I feel like because of how gen 2 was set up (and you could only catch houndour in kanto) it was all just an udated pokedex, not a national
@8948380
@8948380 5 лет назад
Looking at you US/UM
@CA-vy8et
@CA-vy8et 5 лет назад
I agree with you but the tagline for Pokemon has been "Train On" for years and years now. Not Gotta Catch Em All.
@thegreatBarbossa
@thegreatBarbossa 5 лет назад
Wait, "Train on"? No wonder no one uses that, that slogan sucks.
@CA-vy8et
@CA-vy8et 5 лет назад
@@sonario6489 It's been Train On since 2016, they heavily used it during the 20th anniversary a few years ago.
@resean2727
@resean2727 5 лет назад
I'm not mad that not every pokemon will be in the game, I am mad because it is a representation that GameFreak aren't trying at this point.
@raymondthrone7197
@raymondthrone7197 5 лет назад
Basically my opinion. GF has been courting this kind of reaction for a long time now. It's less to do with the actual consequences of not having every pokemon, it's the fact that Gamefreak thinks they can get away with a new generation of such lackluster quality while also removing something to close to the soul of the series.
@AkuTenshiiZero
@AkuTenshiiZero 5 лет назад
Never ascribe to malice what can easily be explained with incompetence. GameFreak can't handle Pokemon anymore, they've been struggling ever since the jump to 3D. It's outgrown them, time for another developer to take over.
@Jdudec367
@Jdudec367 5 лет назад
AkuTenshiiZero wouldn't say struggle...but it was a challenge for them and there were some setbacks
@vaderglenn
@vaderglenn 5 лет назад
They haven't been trying for years lol. It's amazing how people just now notice.
@Niellium
@Niellium 5 лет назад
AkuTenshiiZero It's quite sad really. I watched a video recently on how Game Freak was so ambitious and creative with how they implemented their 2D animations with the limitations on the gameboy hardware. When they switched to 3D it was fine for 3DS at first but they never improved on it in the later games and even decidedly reuse them for convenience.
@malfeasance3815
@malfeasance3815 5 лет назад
This is no Mario Oddesy and this certainly isn’t no Breath of the Wild. This is an upscaled 3ds game plain and simple.
@megsbud
@megsbud 5 лет назад
With less content lol
@alexbrennan9928
@alexbrennan9928 5 лет назад
Biggest shame is that they didn't embrace that either. The graphics are already terrible so they should have just polished up the 3DS graphics and given us a Pokemon game with every single Pokemon in the wild. That alone would sell copies.
@declanthomas7159
@declanthomas7159 5 лет назад
You could say its Dynamax Gen 7.
@Meg-nc4su
@Meg-nc4su 5 лет назад
when I see animal crossing, that have a simplier art style and look infinitly better I wonder what went wrong at Gamefreak. pokemon is like the biggest and most high grossing video game franchise of all time, come on.
@Toadthefungi
@Toadthefungi 5 лет назад
ikr, i look at this and then animal crossing new horizons and they are like night and day.
@B1rdY908
@B1rdY908 5 лет назад
I don't think people would be pissed about the Dex if their justification of better graphics and animation wasn't also a farce. Pretty sure the quality of animation is terrible for switch standards. Charizard's G-max move doesn't even come from its mouth....
@thenotsofriendlybird957
@thenotsofriendlybird957 4 года назад
Animations and graphic just give some more stylish look but the national dex cut actually makes the trainers limited when it comes to making your dream team.
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 5 лет назад
Smell that guys? That's the smell of popcorn and controversy
@swishfish8858
@swishfish8858 5 лет назад
Oh good, I thought you realized I haven't showered in a week
@theluckygamer10
@theluckygamer10 5 лет назад
Controversial popcorn
@revantobias8567
@revantobias8567 5 лет назад
And you know all about controversy, eh Jellal?
@user-mh9dx7nz2r
@user-mh9dx7nz2r 5 лет назад
Smells more like flavorade.
@sillyminicat
@sillyminicat 5 лет назад
Keemstar?
@Drake_Blackwell
@Drake_Blackwell 5 лет назад
I think a large part of the issue comes down to how this was handled. We were set up to believe that this was going to be another standard game where even if there was no proper national dex, we could at least transfer up like in S&M. Notably this creates a weird use case where you could have that partner you love so much, say the hypothetical Breloom from RS, that you have painstakingly transferred up to Ultra Sun. If Shroomish and Breloom aren't available in S&S and you drop your 17 year old partner into pokemon home either because you didn't realize and the service doesn't explicitly warn you, or you make a mistake, now your legacy pokemon is trapped in digital limbo. Moreover the initial announcement of Home primed us to think there would be a focus on trading up and making it easier to interact with the mechanics of transference. To have that be dismissed out of left field creates whiplash with the expectations that had been presented. Add to that the apparent lies about quality of models and animations, the rather bland and uninteresting UI in the gameplay demo, and we have a pokemon experience that seems pretty lacking. The argument of "it's just a game" for me falls flat, I'm not that personally torn up about it but I do understand how important this series and certain aspects of it have become for some people. It's a way for me and my partner, for example, to be able to spend a great deal of time together without really having to worry about where we are or if we can fit in another hour of our limited time. We worked together during ORAS to complete our national dex and it took us a few months but it served as an amazing experience. Similarly battling has a major role for some people. I'm not a huge competitive player but I'll jump into it now and again and generally try to find lesser used pokemon just for the fun of springing an Emboar on people, even if I usually get myself flounced. The fact that elements you care about remain even though ones you don't care for have been removed I think does contribute to the disconnect you face. However, what if we got a pokemon game where shinies just didn't exist. Or where there was barely any single player story and it focused almost exclusively on multiplayer battles or gimmick content. We as a community cherish and love different aspects of the game, and there can, maybe even should, be a sense of camaraderie when part of our community loses something dear to them.
@justice8718
@justice8718 5 лет назад
“Add to that the apparent lies about quality of models and animations, the rather bland and uninteresting UI in the gameplay demo, and we have a pokemon experience that seems pretty lacking.” Okay, so the dynamax moves aren’t examples of new, high-quality animations because you refuse to acknowledge them... Get out of your high horse, humpy dumpy.
@Drake_Blackwell
@Drake_Blackwell 5 лет назад
@@justice8718 First of all, I'm not on a horse. I have weak bones and horseriding hurts :( But, you know fair play, things to get bigger, we don't know if pokemon are going to have custom animations for that. However the bigger point is that people have noticed all the in-game animations we've seen so far appear to be straight from the 3ds animation set. It's possible the devs meant "because every pokemon can dynamax now that'd be a lot to add" but it wasn't portrayed as such. My point was about the poor communication and why that's created such a backlash.
@byronlyons3548
@byronlyons3548 5 лет назад
All nice and well said, but ultimately pointless and lost when the people throwing a temper tantrum worse than little kids, like JWittz said. Yeah, disappointing, we get it as well. But as for why "it's just a game" is said, is because it really is just that, and nothing too important like world's trade center getting bombed or whatever. It just isn't enough to act like the world is ending, just because some Pokemon aren't going to make it. Then to act like they are being "lied to" is also fallacy, when they aren't considering a whole bunch of factors, besides of the move animations and old Pokemon models. Because really, there's still a whole bunch of things to consider, which people are just plain forgetting about. Also let's point out the one big factor, in that everyone is judging a game's graphics, just by a demo. A demo I tell you. You know, the one that Game Freak already gave disclaimer for, with "Game footage not final."
@justice8718
@justice8718 5 лет назад
Drake, They don’t say that because models apply to EVERYTHING in a game and I mean EVERYTHING. They don’t say Pokémon because look at the buildings, towns, and stadiums. They had to model them.
@Boltscrap
@Boltscrap 5 лет назад
Sword and Shield were the magical game that was used to soothe fanbase when both USUM and Let's go games were announced, and then it turned out to be as if not more lacking than those two games. This backlash was many years in the making.
@whatchahowsya8688
@whatchahowsya8688 4 года назад
If the 3DS can handle all 800+ Pokemon (while introducing new mechanics), the switch really has no excuse to nuke half of it away, especially when the "high quality" they're claiming isn't that high.
@themanglenator1225
@themanglenator1225 4 года назад
Technically it's over half... 58% but yeah, your point still stands
@pikapat321
@pikapat321 4 года назад
16bit Classics how is removing Pokémon from Pokémon not bad?
@LucianoThePig
@LucianoThePig 5 лет назад
The "I mainly use the new pokemon anyway" thing is something I've heard a lot. But here's the thing: shouldn't you have the choice? The choice to either use all new pokemon or exclusively your old team, or hey, maybe a mix of both?
@eevee1583
@eevee1583 5 лет назад
I know right? Why force people to use new Pokemon if they don't want to? Or at least still let them transfer old Pokemon, instead of lazily cut them out.
@angelp8469
@angelp8469 5 лет назад
Yeah, that kind of argument is selfish. You may not care, but a lot of people do care so it's not an excuse to remove Pokemon.
@atre5763
@atre5763 5 лет назад
They leave them in the box anyway!
@siddyfisher1765
@siddyfisher1765 5 лет назад
I thought that was so silly for him to say. People play Pokemon DIFFERENTLY. Just because he and some people do things one way doesn't mean everybody else does or should.
@Kewlgabe
@Kewlgabe 5 лет назад
You wouldn't have the choice even if all the Pokemon were in SwSh you wouldn't be able to use a lot of the Pokemon until Home is released unless you wait to play the game till then.
@Majinhero
@Majinhero 5 лет назад
I was starting to feel the burn when the games started having no post mane game contend; in Sun and Moon they just give you legendaries while they where events in the 2D games, and now Let's Go just has master trainers.(I'm not going to start with the battle frontier) They are including less contend over the years, and because of this this starts to feel far more like a CoD game where they first started to make season passes and then promised feture later down the line because they can't finnish the game fully in time.
@saltyscrublyfe9862
@saltyscrublyfe9862 5 лет назад
I feel the pain of that auto correct. Lol.
@Rippen_Crippen
@Rippen_Crippen 5 лет назад
Majinhero SM had a pretty lengthy postgame, and are you going to ignore Team Rainbow Rocket of US UM? That is one of the biggest post games of the series
@samt3412
@samt3412 5 лет назад
@@Rippen_Crippen Yeah, people just kind of forget about Looker, Battle Tree, or anything else.
@theboy1872
@theboy1872 5 лет назад
i'm replaying diamond rn, and i'm having much more fun with it than any of the new games
@tintillor
@tintillor 5 лет назад
*content
@TrueFirebrand
@TrueFirebrand 5 лет назад
Personally, it doesn't bother me much, but to have hyped up Pokemon Home and other stuff that helps to bring forward pokemon, just to then announce that the service won't even really be all that useful with the new gen, just kinda slimey.
@SonicBrownie
@SonicBrownie 5 лет назад
yeah thats what is getting me it just seems like a slap in this face to promote Home like that
@loqstone
@loqstone 5 лет назад
@@volcanosumit no it really shouldn't bother him. If he is chill enough to not care, let him.
@hansschreibaufdermaschine1795
@hansschreibaufdermaschine1795 5 лет назад
I almost choked on my food from laughter when the ad interrupted your sentence: "Clearly there is a disconnect between the masses and myself - so what is it...? [Pyramid with an eye suddenly appears on the screen]"
@TheAbsol7448
@TheAbsol7448 5 лет назад
That's amazing.
@mjangelvortex
@mjangelvortex 5 лет назад
It's the illumanti.
@Truekingr6
@Truekingr6 5 лет назад
im that one guy, ive had my sceptile from emerald since 2005, now resting in omega ruby
@Turretguy
@Turretguy 5 лет назад
Truekingr6 same! Except mines a Grovyle, Huntail, Regice and few more. If I can’t bring those on then I’m going to just keep playing Oras
@Truekingr6
@Truekingr6 5 лет назад
Turretguy that's awesome, emerald was my second Pokemon game and back in the day i would only focus on sceptile, by the end in the elite 4 my sceptile was level 84 and the rest of the team barely in 40s haha, literally feels like its my child!
@maestrojo
@maestrojo 5 лет назад
I have a shiny surskit from Gen III that i've been able to transfer ALL the way to the newest games. He's my first shiny so I have a sentimental bond to him. Unfortunately I don't see him making the cut for the Galar region. :(
@Truekingr6
@Truekingr6 5 лет назад
maestrojo i hope they make it happen! and reminds me i also have a shiny crobat that i found in MT moon on my first playthrough of Leafgreen and he is also in omega ruby, im sure we will have zubats in Galar caves right?... right??..
5 лет назад
I started with DPPt, but similar story with several of them.
@underscore5708
@underscore5708 5 лет назад
im most upset at gamefreak picking favourites for pokemon. "oh cool charizard again"
@eevee1583
@eevee1583 5 лет назад
Having Leon use a Charizard as his main Pokemon is insulting.
@peteypariah6603
@peteypariah6603 5 лет назад
Can't be a pokemon game without KANTOOOOOOOOOO
@mu556
@mu556 5 лет назад
Just watch as a good majority of the Gala dex is full of gen 1 pokes
@lucianofrancesco4742
@lucianofrancesco4742 5 лет назад
@@eevee1583 you're totally right, I was upset too. The champion's ace should always be a new Pokémon, it's always been like that (except for gen 2).
@KuryoZT
@KuryoZT 5 лет назад
@@lucianofrancesco4742 And technically Gen6 (Diantha and Gardevoir) but that's excusable because 1. The rest of her team is from Gen 6 2.Gardevoir became Psychic/Fairy, a type introduced in Gen 6 3.Gardevoir was her Mega, the gimmick also introduced in (and left for dead after) Gen 6 So Diantha's ace is representative of Gen 6 (it could have been Mawile, but wouldn't look the same 'pretty' kind, or Florges, a Fairy introduced in Gen 6 but wouldn't show off Mega evolution)
@smoker9777
@smoker9777 4 года назад
i love how this video didn't age up well #gamefreaklied
@PikaTheProsperous
@PikaTheProsperous 5 лет назад
Gamefreak: Let me see what you have. Pokemon fans: A national dex! Gamefreak: No!
@temmie2032
@temmie2032 5 лет назад
Lmao true
@wtfsalt
@wtfsalt 5 лет назад
its simple. pokemon isnt the only franchise suffering from deadline crunch. im 110% ok with waiting a little bit longer for a polished product. it also gives more time for the game to marinate its hype.
@yxzyzzyx434
@yxzyzzyx434 5 лет назад
Heck, id wait another 2 years for ss
@poijnve3912
@poijnve3912 5 лет назад
that isnt the problem, the problem is that for gf pokemon is not a priority, they put their 1 team into twon insta into pokemon....
@GeneralCane
@GeneralCane 5 лет назад
I'm thinking that it's not so much whether we the fans are willing to wait for a finished game but rather the CEOs don't want to wait for their next paycheck.
@wtfsalt
@wtfsalt 5 лет назад
@@GeneralCane thats my point yes
@Mr3DLC
@Mr3DLC 5 лет назад
More pokemon as dlc
@henrygreen2096
@henrygreen2096 5 лет назад
I knew Pokémon would lose it's high chair, but I feel like the way it's happening is very bad. Pokémon has a LOT more issues than being able to catch every single monster in the game.
@LegionIvory
@LegionIvory 5 лет назад
If they are smart, they will plan Gen 9 with a larger development window. Gen 9 is currently in its pre-development stages, so they best create the window now while they have the opportunity.
@Battlesthegolden
@Battlesthegolden 5 лет назад
What makes me sad is that if the National Dex controversy didn't happen then everyone would be eating up SwSh no matter how mediocre it actually was
@henrygreen2096
@henrygreen2096 5 лет назад
Legion Ivory Yeah. I am very sad Nintendo/game freak of all companies are in the mindset to churn out Pokémon games like this. They should know they have a fairly staved fanbase that’ll wait for a good quality game.
@LegionIvory
@LegionIvory 5 лет назад
@@henrygreen2096 It goes far beyond the games. They have an entire multi-billion-dollar franchise to run. The main series games make only a small franction of what the franchise as a whole makes.
@henrygreen2096
@henrygreen2096 5 лет назад
Chloe Shand That is a very good, point. Sometimes it takes something (objectively) minor, before people notice the whole picture. I remember putting the Let’s Go games aside, Lil’ Timmy and everything, passing it off as just a spin off, but I fear a lot of those mechanics creeping into the 8th gen...
@niels_plays7606
@niels_plays7606 5 лет назад
Gamefreak: Doesnt add a lot of pokemon because of remodeling of the pokemon. Also Gamefeak: Have been using the same model library since X&Y
@RayoMcQueen95990
@RayoMcQueen95990 4 года назад
Nielsplays not only that, they have the “updated” Kanto Pokémon from let’s go, yet they don’t use them in Sw/Sh
@guiteshima
@guiteshima 4 года назад
You know that the X and Y models were MADE to be of Console quality, right? The textures are what really makes them look better (or worse depending on it). The problem for me is not re-using the models but not making console quality animations.
@EchoDrifter
@EchoDrifter 5 лет назад
I’m literally that guy who transferred his Breloom up from Ruby through every generation. Here’s to hoping Breloom is in Galar.
@kieranshaw8064
@kieranshaw8064 5 лет назад
Watch them do something like Sword 2 and Shield 2 that ACTUALLY has the national dex added
@NintendoHighSchool
@NintendoHighSchool 5 лет назад
Ultra Sword and Ultra Shield Or just Pokemon GUN
@renatoramos8834
@renatoramos8834 5 лет назад
It's not about the dex.
@Number15Tails
@Number15Tails 5 лет назад
If they do that it's gonna have a larger regional dex like USUM did with SM which would make SwSh a waste of an investment.
@hibubgames7667
@hibubgames7667 5 лет назад
Kieran Shaw *Sharp Sword *Sturdy Shield
@ggPUNX
@ggPUNX 5 лет назад
This is practically confirmed with Masuda’s statement about how “just because this game doesn’t have all the Pokémon, that doesn’t mean *future games* won’t.” Yeah, it’s gonna be the enticement to buy the real versions of these games.
@22NightWing
@22NightWing 5 лет назад
Voice of reason... Agree with your summary 100%. The outcry has a deeper-rooted origin than just lack of Pokemon... It's a disappointment with the direction and approach to the franchise / main series as a whole.
@nothingtoseehere6142
@nothingtoseehere6142 5 лет назад
I'm surprised people are only now getting upset. Over the past decade, FANS have been able to produce games and original monsters that are on par with official ones. Pokémon is predictable and formulaic.
@devilmaycryagency
@devilmaycryagency 5 лет назад
I really wouldn't have cared for doing away with the national pokedex if the game looked amazing and the animations were as good as pokemon stadium, colosseum and battle revolution.
@SpookyEggs
@SpookyEggs 5 лет назад
Zeta 77 that is literally impossible unless they spent years and years on the game, stadium had a smaller pool to Work with, making unique animations for 400/300 Pokemon is daunting enough but then you have to make 728 unique animations for that 400/300 Pokemon. And you know what? I think the game looks amazing I think you've just got these red tinted glasses on because you want to be mad.
@devilmaycryagency
@devilmaycryagency 5 лет назад
@@SpookyEggs I'm not mad, just disappointed. It is very much possible to put genuine effort into the animations and graphics, especially for a AAA studio like gamefreak, but they clearly chose not to, plus they decided to remove pokemon as well. And if the game looks good to you, then more power to you. I hope you enjoy it.
@milboxr9772
@milboxr9772 5 лет назад
@@SpookyEggs alright if that's true then wth was the point of cutting a bunch of Pokemon? Obviously not the animations or graphics since they're still using the same models, there was literally no reason to since you can't even see the exchange of better anything else, I mean they're not even putting a battle frontier most likely, they're just cutting corners left and right
@SpookyEggs
@SpookyEggs 5 лет назад
Milbox R have you ever consider that there is more in the way of animation then just battles?
@SpookyEggs
@SpookyEggs 5 лет назад
Milbox R also again, stop pretending the graphics are bad, they're not
@TheKingNaesala
@TheKingNaesala 5 лет назад
One of the greatest things about Pokemon was there were so many ways to play, and so many ways to express your love. TCG, Manga, TV Show, video games, plushies, etc. And then, in the games, casually doing the story, playing competitive, and collecting. I played the games to collect. That's what I liked most; seeing my boxes lined up with an instance of each pokemon. Sure. There's a thousand other ways to enjoy pokemon. But instead of thinking of it like you cards rotating out, to us it feels more like they eliminated the ability to play the card game at all, by comparison. What good is there in collecting for a collection that can never be complete? So yeah, I'm mad. It's fine that you're chill, but you have to understand this comes from a place of love. Game Freak is showing it's faults at the seams like Bethesda has been. If they don't shape up and use their mountain of wealth to create better products, they're going to find their fans phasing out and ceasing to defend their actions.
@DannyTanimoto
@DannyTanimoto 5 лет назад
That's a really, really good way of putting it. It'd be like the card manufacturers saying "Hey, we're gonna eliminate all cards that are used in Recycle decks from the next wave of cards", not "hey the new wave of cards will still fit within the expectations of the old meta."
@Jdudec367
@Jdudec367 5 лет назад
honestly...I play to collect to and I couldn't agree more
@MunchKING
@MunchKING 5 лет назад
To be fair to the WIngulls, if nothing else, their Pokédex entries since Emerald have talked about how they don't flap their wings to fly and just glide around.
@scarletrose8766
@scarletrose8766 5 лет назад
thats accurate
@TheChaosStormBringer
@TheChaosStormBringer 5 лет назад
The Ultra games were the first Pokemon games I didn't finish, and now these will be the first games I skip outright.
@roxanne410
@roxanne410 5 лет назад
Same :( I've been a fan for 15 years and I would've still bought (even though my gameplay style relies on the dex) if it weren't for those poor PR statements and Town being prioritized...
@iggnifyre6333
@iggnifyre6333 5 лет назад
I think sarting with gen 5, I bought every mainline game: B2/W2, X/Y, ORAS SuMo and I've had a complete Dex in all of them, then Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon came out and I thought "Oh it's just more of the same thing I can skipe it" which was pretty disappointing after B2/W2, then I skipped Let's Go because it just didn't appeal to me, and now with how unimpressive Sword and Shield looks... I just feel like they've lost me and that Generation 9 or 10 will have to actually impress/excite me to get me back into it.
@caviaporcellus7253
@caviaporcellus7253 5 лет назад
TheChaosStormBringer I’m considering skipping it. I definitely might if they ain’t got my precious garchomp 🤠
@rulercamelot3687
@rulercamelot3687 5 лет назад
Literally same
@TyLore1015
@TyLore1015 5 лет назад
cavia porcellus on serebii.net they have a list of Pokémon that are confirmed to be in sword and shield.. as far as I can tell it’s accurate
@maverickbonato8164
@maverickbonato8164 5 лет назад
Fans mad about the game feeling rush and unpolished. Gamefreak: Let me just develop another random game at the same time... Them developing Town without using all their already small force in pokémon is what really bothers me tbh.
@poijnve3912
@poijnve3912 5 лет назад
and it worst, they put the team 2 in charge of pokemon! they have their main team in town, a game that nobdy cares about....
@Whale-Shark-Katie
@Whale-Shark-Katie 5 лет назад
Maverick Bonato oh yea, gamefreak trying something other than Pokémon is the worst thing ever, how dare they try to branch out to other ideas and game styles
@Archway-9
@Archway-9 5 лет назад
poijn ve that's a lie, you just made that up
@villytillycato4279
@villytillycato4279 4 года назад
@@Whale-Shark-Katie well, looking at town's reception, they really should've just stuck to pokemon. Pokemon is their main game, it would've been nice if they'd treated it like it was.
@rantradio
@rantradio 4 года назад
@@Whale-Shark-Katie considering GF makes nothing But pokemon for almost 30yrs, it's ridiculous to branch out now at a crucial time for the game too
@TheZubaz
@TheZubaz 5 лет назад
im more bothered by the game looking like a higher res X & Y
@losnfjslefn8857
@losnfjslefn8857 5 лет назад
I know, right? 😆
@Acsilverfish360
@Acsilverfish360 5 лет назад
So it is playing X&Y on Citra, basically. Yeah, I would prefer that over this.
@anthonymitchell654
@anthonymitchell654 5 лет назад
just remember it's still in development so it's graphics might still be subject to change. thus by the time it's released it may look better
@techno--
@techno-- 5 лет назад
@@Acsilverfish360 1080p sun with outlines removed kinda sexy (although i don't really like the game)
@monkeyman5477
@monkeyman5477 5 лет назад
Anthony Mitchell it releases in like 4 months
@ominousshadowplays8112
@ominousshadowplays8112 5 лет назад
Im not mad about the National Dex not being in Sword and Shield. But when the game design and graphics start looking cheap, Lazy and Reused thats when I get angry. I mean floating parts of walls, t-posing wingulls, N64/Gamecube era looking trees, basically all models and animations brought back from Gen 7. Its getting stupid now. I mean The Pokemon Company is basically only focusing on the mobile games. And they have completely forgotten about the true side games (Mystery Dungeon, Stadium type games). And honestly speaking. Im still gonna buy the game. Im still gonna enjoy playing it. But the Pokemon Fan inside me is going to be slightly disappointed. I mean the pokemon company's focus is In the wrong place. The mobile games are called side games for a reason. They should just focus on the main series of games.
@shadowthedragonoid
@shadowthedragonoid 5 лет назад
I believe it says enough that I can grab Pokemon stadium for the N64 and it looks better than sword & Shield because the battle animations were actually there, done with the limited hardware they had at the time and the graphics also really don't look that different, just like you said.
@billiezeiszler608
@billiezeiszler608 5 лет назад
WINGULL IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE THAT! It's been established since emerald that wingull travels by gliding.
@koishibestwaifu4904
@koishibestwaifu4904 5 лет назад
@@billiezeiszler608 that's the first argument for the Wingull T-Pose animation I've seen and I don't believe that lmao
@billiezeiszler608
@billiezeiszler608 5 лет назад
@@koishibestwaifu4904 ITS TRUE! Look up wingulls pokedex entry in pokemon emerald.
@Metroid4ever
@Metroid4ever 5 лет назад
@@billiezeiszler608 Yeah? Go play BotW and check out the seagulls in that game. Those seagulls move and behave like real life seagulls, occasionally flapping their wings if they fall out of the wind updraft.
@Scorpion122178
@Scorpion122178 5 лет назад
tfw 20 years later you realize "Gotta catch them all!" wasn't the best thought out tag line for your multi million dollar IP
@Exhumami
@Exhumami 5 лет назад
1. That’s not the Japanese slogan. 2. You could never catch every Pokémon in a single game. 3. You can still catch all of the Pokémon, you just can’t bring them to Galar.
@JackOfen
@JackOfen 5 лет назад
@@Exhumami So in short. You can't catch them all in Sword and Shield, because you can't transfer them. Leaving this feeling of emptiness inside you
@basherblast
@basherblast 5 лет назад
Multi billion*
@firebird1080
@firebird1080 5 лет назад
Gotta transfer them all
@PeterGriffin11
@PeterGriffin11 5 лет назад
They haven't used that catchphrase in a long time.
@HoneyballLP
@HoneyballLP 5 лет назад
But I want a full hedgehog Pokémon Team... qwq
@pikawesome1
@pikawesome1 5 лет назад
this is something i thought they would of learned not to do after people were pissed about not being able to trade from gen 2 to gen 3
@unwithering5313
@unwithering5313 5 лет назад
Gen 8 is the next gen 3 confirmed?
@joaosoares2570
@joaosoares2570 5 лет назад
@@unwithering5313 its worse because in gen 3 there was the technology excuse which was much much better and the pokemon were at least coded in the game so you could actually transfer them. It was just a very difficult process.
@tintillor
@tintillor 5 лет назад
@@joaosoares2570 Though they removed crucial features like day/night cycle.
@joaosoares2570
@joaosoares2570 5 лет назад
@@tintillor day/night is not crucial and it came back anyway. They removed it in 2002 duo to hardware limitations.
@NanashiCAST
@NanashiCAST 5 лет назад
I'd be content if they just properly announced what pokemon will not be in the game before preorders opened
@hydrocannons7573
@hydrocannons7573 5 лет назад
That T-posing Wingull just oozes personality. Seriously Game Freak is used to selling a ton of copies with little to no effort. Time for a wakeup call.
@Kermthefrog
@Kermthefrog 5 лет назад
It's actually pretty accurate to the pokedex entries, Wingull doesn't flap its wings to fly.
@thekeyandthegate4093
@thekeyandthegate4093 5 лет назад
@@Kermthefrog Doesn't make it any less lazy. Look at the Pokemon Battle Revolution animations. Despite it doing essentially the same pose, the animations themselves are of objectively higher quality and have far better subtle details in how the Wingull moves.
@Kermthefrog
@Kermthefrog 5 лет назад
I never said it was better though
@dakota6885
@dakota6885 5 лет назад
@@atre5763 how does that meme even apply here
@kylecampbell565
@kylecampbell565 5 лет назад
I’m guessing game freak just isn’t allowed to state the real reason Nintendo isn’t giving them enough time
@OMalleyTheMaggot
@OMalleyTheMaggot 5 лет назад
Remember, consumers are not allowed to act dissatisfied. If you do not accept what is given to you by our glorious corperate overlords, clearly you are just being entitled.
@Jestrath
@Jestrath 5 лет назад
I know some people that think that this sadly. They think I am an idiot for being so passionately pissed off about this.
@cutecommie
@cutecommie 5 лет назад
Uhm, why don't you just vote with your wallet and buy another company's Pokémon game? Oh wait.
@DarkChaser3
@DarkChaser3 5 лет назад
tell those people they can never review or talk about anything, (movies tv shows games book anime etc) just consume and move to the next thing. also for something like games tell them they cant complain if a GOTY of a game doesnt have the dlc on disc but instead just a code for it. cuz that would be entitled ;)
@sang6799
@sang6799 5 лет назад
Remember, consumers are not allowed to act satisfied. If you accept what is given to you, clearly you are just a mindless drone.
@ChaosRayZero
@ChaosRayZero 5 лет назад
What if you accept that it is _NOT "given to you",_ and your dissatisfaction leads to simply choosing not to buy the product, rather than making *entitled demands* of the "corperate [sic] overlords"? What then?
@Highstar25
@Highstar25 5 лет назад
I would be totally okay with the whole dexit thing if they actually had new high quality animations and models for the old pokemon that did make the cut. But they don't. Nothing has changed about these 3ds assets, there was no extra work involved in including them because they've had their entire suite of models, animations and textures finished and on every 3ds cartridge since 2006, including unused ones like the running animations. The fact that game freak have straight up lied to us about their reasons is an insult to the fanbase. It's clear to everyone that the real reason they had to rush this game out with so much missing and such dodgy graphics is that they're a tiny team (about 140, which is further divided into the Town team, aka the main team, and the pokemon team) working on an absurdly punishing yearly release schedule. And since Game Freak isn't owned by nintendo, only the Pokemon IP, their employees aren't benefiting from Nintendo's recent stance on prioritizing work/life balance.
@chewiedog1
@chewiedog1 5 лет назад
Pokemon stadium animations give each pokemon such a unique personality
@justice8718
@justice8718 5 лет назад
No, it’s because they have to give the new Pokémon the same kind of care as the older ones.
@Thund3rDrag0n12
@Thund3rDrag0n12 5 лет назад
Justice Game Freak (with some help from Creatures Inc.) managed to make all the 3D models and animations for the 700+ Pokémon there were in X/Y in the 2-3 years between Gens 5 and 6, while also developing Black 2 and White 2. They can do it, they’re just choosing not to
@justice8718
@justice8718 5 лет назад
@InveryefReaper I was stating that they needed to give newer mons the same amount of insane work as they had for older Pokémon, including introducing animations, walking animations, and more. It was not related to whether or not they could put all of the old mons back in the game (quite frankly, that caused a cancer on the competitive scene).
@Thund3rDrag0n12
@Thund3rDrag0n12 5 лет назад
Justice I know, and I’m saying that if they could do over 700 in around 3 years, they should be able to do around 100 in the same amount of time. The problem being that Game Freak’s team is split between this and Town with the older, more experienced devs working on Town. They CAN do it, they just chose not to
@xedusk
@xedusk 5 лет назад
The "why" is definitely the biggest reason. I wasn't upset about the decision at all until I heard why they said they couldn't include them.
@dp-2win95
@dp-2win95 5 лет назад
Exactly, if they didn't say anything people would be just come to there own conclusions. Or if they staight up said " we don't want to upscale 800 Pokemon for this game. It's just too much work and We didn't think we would make this far.. sorry." I would've been find with that answer.
@kadabraguy9846
@kadabraguy9846 5 лет назад
The thing that really bugs me is that people claim "they can't model all 800 previous Pokémon!!" when they don't need to. When they made the models for X and Y, they made sure they were high quality models that were able to be used in the future. That's why they worked in Pokémon Go (and Let's Go, a game that is on the Switch ffs). Even if, for some reason, they have to reanimate the models, each Pokémon has like 6 seconds of unique animation (idle, contact move, non-contact move, hit, faint, idle flair, each only taking about a second), meaning if they had to reanimate everything it'd be like 9 minutes of animation. No, the reason why they can't make all the Pokémon work is because of the Dynamax mechanic, requiring even higher quality models. It's so dumb.
@teamawesomeness7137
@teamawesomeness7137 5 лет назад
and but what about modelling the new pokemon?
@oscarmccormack1611
@oscarmccormack1611 4 года назад
@@teamawesomeness7137 They managed to do it perfectly well for Sun & Moon, even with adding new Pokémon.
@oscarmccormack1611
@oscarmccormack1611 4 года назад
@@teamawesomeness7137 There aren't going to be 256. There aren't going to be more than 200. There aren't going to be more than 150. I would be surprised if there were more than 100. The reason Gen V had so many new Pokémon was because Gen IV was originally supposed to be the last game, and all of the backlog designs were polished up and used in Gen V. Since then, with 72 (not counting Mega Evolutions) Pokémon introduced in Gen VI, and 88 in Gen VII, Gamefreak has been, pretty reasonably, keeping new Pokémon number low enough to not have as serious a workload, and to keep from the serious glut of new Pokémon of varying quality that were introduced in Gen V. In the situation now, there is no excuse for charging more for less.
@teamawesomeness7137
@teamawesomeness7137 4 года назад
@@oscarmccormack1611 they're not charging more for less. the game doesn't have less gameplay than previous games. the game has a tournament instead of an elite four. what I miss is HMs.
@oscarmccormack1611
@oscarmccormack1611 4 года назад
@@teamawesomeness7137 ...okay, firstly, they are charging more for less. $20USD, precisely, while not including Mega Evolutions, Z-Moves, the ability to transfer all Pokémon, and the list goes on and on. And secondly, this has absolutely nothing to do with the original post. You're grasping at straws to justify terrible standards just because you like the series. Don't do that. Demand better. Zelda and Mario fans did, and they all seem pretty happy right now. (Also, the fact that you're defending HMs, which are, without question, the worst part of playing any Pokémon game pre-Gen VII is astonishing)
@machina5
@machina5 5 лет назад
Gamefreak: *Cuts 50% of the dex* Also Gamefreak: *Increases price by 50%* Don't defend this.
@GDKsan
@GDKsan 5 лет назад
wait it's 50% more expensive than let's go ? And there are just 77 pokemon in it (half of 153 rounded up)? Wow. You're one year too late to complain, let's go had that pricepoint and had way less pokemon than what was already shown from sword and shield.
@lillieofthevlly
@lillieofthevlly 5 лет назад
@@GDKsan They're comparing to the 3DS games. Nowhere in their comment did they imply they were fine with Let's Go either. Stop arguing against your own assumptions.
@GDKsan
@GDKsan 5 лет назад
@@lillieofthevlly The latest core game wasn't a 3DS game, it was let's go, it costed 60$ and had only 153 pokemon. Yet nobody complained. Sword and shield looks better (and yeah I'm talking about graphics here) than let's go and is already well more deserving of being full price than let's go will ever be.
@BigHailFan
@BigHailFan 5 лет назад
@GDK dafuq you talking about? a TON of people complained!
@KameKame27
@KameKame27 5 лет назад
@@GDKsan Lets go wasnt a core game though
@Onion_57
@Onion_57 5 лет назад
I’ve been waiting for this video ever since the day the news came out. I personally am most angry about this news because i’m a shiny hunter, and this means i may not be able to keep all of my years of work in Gen 8.
@GDKsan
@GDKsan 5 лет назад
yes you can, in pokemon home. Sure your pokemon won't be in a game, but it will be somewhere.
@Onion_57
@Onion_57 5 лет назад
GDKsan You can disagree with me if you want. But i would like to be able to have my full shiny collection in every single pokemon game, to show my efforts and rewards of hunting.
@GDKsan
@GDKsan 5 лет назад
@@Onion_57 You will be able to show it with home (may I remind you they announced you can trade pokemon directly from the home app) but I get what you say, you will not be able to do that on sword and shield (well you can show at least part of it with the galar dex).
@kobejva
@kobejva 5 лет назад
GDKsan you have to pay a monthly fee for home which is stupid
@BigHailFan
@BigHailFan 5 лет назад
@GDKsan "you can put them in home......you can't DO anything with them, but they're there!"
@Arcademan09
@Arcademan09 5 лет назад
I think it wouldn't be much of an issue if Game Freak wasn't so dishonest about their reasons
@caswellweird
@caswellweird 5 лет назад
@@rodolfocrespo4840 *"we deeply care about the quality of Pokemon"*
@hectorguzman4145
@hectorguzman4145 5 лет назад
They have a Bethesda problem
@changhyon92
@changhyon92 5 лет назад
@@hectorguzman4145 I'm pretty sure that's a Bioware problem, not Bethesda
@Arcademan09
@Arcademan09 5 лет назад
@@changhyon92 nice try Todd
@Zistheone2
@Zistheone2 5 лет назад
I think it's more-so that they're trying to keep up the image of perfection than being dishonest. Maybe it's a cultural thing & Game Freak tries to follow the same ideologies as celebrities from the Showa Period (how they needed to distance themselves from the fans & made sure no one ever saw their flaws in order to look like someone people could look up to).
@penperry5347
@penperry5347 5 лет назад
Personally, I'm getting kinda tired of the X/Y models. I would be totally fine if they just delayed it a little bit to work more on that stuff. oops I forgot 99% of the comments are about this... '~'
@briannitzschke2767
@briannitzschke2767 5 лет назад
You have a similar view to a lot of people who dont mind the change. You dont mind it, it doesnt bother you. Thats a totally fine way to feel, but its not as if you feel that the games are improved for the removal of all those pokemon. Thats my core argument. For some, its fine, for others it isnt fine, but for no one is it improved. Therefore, it is a bad change.
@whitneyl.1856
@whitneyl.1856 5 лет назад
Good point 👍
@DoubleBoost23
@DoubleBoost23 5 лет назад
I would have liked but your like amount is too perfect.
@trisryan4161
@trisryan4161 5 лет назад
Exactly. People who don't like the removal of Pokemon and megas are not just fighting for our Pokemon to be in, but for everyone's Pokemon to get in. Because it's a change where nobody wins.
@imphie
@imphie 5 лет назад
I'm one of those that is actively pissed off about this. however, if the Pokemon company were to just release the truth of why they did this I think I'd be okay with it. it really is the confusion and the lies that were the worst part of all this. that and the pay wall
@KhanMann66
@KhanMann66 5 лет назад
How much cut content until Pokémon fans say “ENOUGH!”
@Gonkers20XX
@Gonkers20XX 5 лет назад
*Remove Pokemon* That sucks, maybe some of the animations will be improved with less Pokemon to work on? NOPE! I fully expect Blastoise to still not be able to shoot from his cannons.
@creoorion3439
@creoorion3439 5 лет назад
Lmao blastoise might not even be in the game
@M3rtyville
@M3rtyville 5 лет назад
me too. Pokemon XD Master Race But in all seriousness. I have also the feeling that Blastoise in Masters (if he is in it) will use it from his cannons...
@bethanywhitelaw8363
@bethanywhitelaw8363 5 лет назад
My biggest gripe is with the home debacle. Like why should I pay an extra yearly fee and potentially an online membership when I can't use the full extent of the app. That's like buying a audible book but every year you can listen to a different section of the book and then it's removed. I only transfer my older pokemon after I finish the game and home is going to come out a few months later and bank only updated a few months later after every release so the excuse for everyone wanting to use their pokemon right away is misguided. Why should I pay to keep the pokemon I love in a box until a game lets them in years in the future when I could just keep them in the 3ds and know I can actually use them. I read somewhere that glameow hasn't been in a regional dex in over 10 years so it might never be allowed to transfer to the switch games. I don't do competitive or battle outside of the main story but it doesn't mean I don't feel attached to Pokemon I find. I'm more of a shiny hunter but seeing my shinies in HD would be amazing. If they wanted to balance the game they could have used the stamping system in xy and sumo where native Pokemon can have the symbol like the Pentagon and only they can be played in competitive. They got rid of mega evolutions and Z moves for big pokemon. I know how hard programming is I can't program to save my life but my friend makes his own video games and ive seen his struggle but I don't see how that excuses game freak, x and y specifically had future proof models and everything seems ported anyway. I've been getting stale with pokemon lately but this was the last straw for me.
@justice8718
@justice8718 5 лет назад
We don’t have that much info on home.
@eevee1583
@eevee1583 5 лет назад
@@justice8718 We know that we are going to pay for a feature that's not even compatible with the main game
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