Let's talk Poa Annua management with NuFarm / Velocity PM 

Thanks for that!!

In two weeks !!

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Thanks

Find another Lawn freak to half a bottle with you..

@@FescueFreak That would likely be my only option unless they were to come out with an 8 oz bottle that is similarly priced which is highly unlikely. It does sound like a promising product though. Thanks for the great video!

Heritage PPG will have it soon

Honestly, it’s not cheaper to start over you have valuable turf there that has grown roots! Etho works best as a pre-emergent in the fall has done wonders for me! The best way to take care of this is to grow thick, healthy turf to keep the ground shaded and not let other plants germinate

@@FescueFreak looks like I am going to get some Velocity PM. I will say I am 3 days since I put down my mix and the poa is turning a little brown.

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I emailed the Nufarm rep in my state of PA and got the list, he asked if I knew what cultivars I had because if I didn't know that list probaly wouldn't help me much. I told him I have some Bluebank, Bewitched, Mazama, & some BlueNote. He than sent the list of which none of those are even on it. The list has cultivars are categorized in 3 groups, severe, safe, & marginal. All the data is from '04 and '05. The list requires study. The data entries show when and where and some cultivars are in more than 1 category based on where it was noted and entered. For example, Midnight was in the "safe" category in WI, but also Midnight was in the marginal category in NJ, so that tells me climate is a consideration. Nufarm noted that's is more effective on the undesirable Poa(s) in the 70F temp consistency range, can be used up to 90F, but I think risk in a KBG presence application especially in Summer with possible drought conditions I assume would be most severe for KBG's also. We agreed that the newest high performance, darkest, "Elite" KGB's are going to fare the best over much of the older cultivars, a lot of which have little or unknown market presence in seed form anymore and you wouldn't really plant today anyway. If you are researched enough to know and care what annua and triv are, and can afford Velocity PM, then you are probably also willing to overseed and will opt for Midnight, Everest, Bewitched, Beyond, Impact, Award, Nuglade, or Bluebank, and various other cultivars that constitute or qualify as "Elite" KGB's anyway if killing the Poa T&A would necessitate overseeding due to any high percentage of loss of undesirebles or damage to desireble KBG. If it takes killing or severely damaging any older, less performing, more primitive KBG cultivars to kill the Poa T&A then so be it because it's kind of coming with the territory as far as being that much of an enthusiast, and how annoying it is to control otherwise is my attitude. I bought a bottle recently and am researching it's application and affects and will use and experiment with this product this year for the 1st time. I have a Bluebank monostand section and the rest of my KBG presence is in a blend of PRG's, TTTF's, & FF's The Bluebank's winter and spring greenup performance I feel is lacking, and want to add some BlueNote or Bewitched in there and some Hatrick PRG anyway. There is hardly any poa T or A in the monostand at all but would like to confront it with spot treatment with Velocity PM, but will focus on light rate, more frequent apps, and try to avoid compounding any damage during the hottest and driest periods.

That data is out there on some older cultivars

Don't let it freeze keep it out of direct sunlight store it between 50 and 70° will last for years and years

Thanks man

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Wasn't selling at the old price.. New price is less

At around $533 a bottle, I’m interested but many others will not be. What do you think the idea behind a 16 Oz bottle is when you need 4.5 Oz for two apps on an acre? Seems like you could vastly increase market demand by simply offering it in smaller quantities at same price per unit volume. You have people with 5k sq ft lawns that would like to purchase small packets to be tank mixed, etc.

@@ericnoland6466 the 16 ounce bottle is intended for people out, spraying for a living.. maybe in the future they will be a smaller bottle for homeowners?? but I don’t know that

@@FescueFreakDIY lawn care "nuts" a.k.a. homeowners are pretty dedicated if you take a look. The one weed that has no selective herbicide available is Poa Trivialis. I'd argue that there's a huge market waiting for a bottle that'll do sub-acre properties with a label rating of 2ml / 1000sqft . We're all devising plans to divvy up 16oz bottles and split the cost. Please send the message upstream if at all possible :)

Same here!!

Find a friend and split it

2.25 oz to the acre 43,560 sqft.. you’re talking drops for a backpack spot spraying.. Would have to really check the label to give it correct answer

At 2.25 Oz per acre and $75/acre that 16 Oz bottle is $533

I thought he saying $75 for 16oz bottle? I got 8000sqft that be ok.

@@caprisingh7793 I wish it was that cheap

@@ericnoland6466 man that’s a lot, Back to start digging spots and putting seed down.

@@caprisingh7793maybe find someone to split it with

I can confirm... I beat poa triv, then the following fall I aerated... and then I had hundreds of new spots. If you've had triv before there's a seed bank under that sod just waiting for an opportunity to get to the surface. This was AFTER a full renovation with 2x fall glyphosate, but poa triv isn't really growing in early fall and did not get 100% kill apparently.

When it is actively growing

@@FescueFreak which seems to contradict the advice that you'll have more efficacy in hotter temps.

@@josh.kapturyes indeed. Ive applied three times in 21 day intervals. Can’t really tell in some areas if it’s just doing the usual dormancy matting down or if it’s dying off from velocity.

No sir $75.00 per app.. 16oz is like $500.00

Thank you sir, I only got 8000sqft, but I just need to spot spray, I need to start asking ppl in south NJ that can go in on this lol. Let’s see who got Triv in nj.

It is safe for some varieties, but not all Like he was saying, in the video you would have to do some testing ..

Never mind, but I might try it in the couple areas I do have annual

@@FescueFreak i will try some area for sure, so Mountain View KBG and Midnight

Keep it out of the sun definitely do not let it freeze and I feel for sure it would last 10 years.. best thing to do is split it with a friend