Lettice Knollys: Elizabeth's Love Rival

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I think Lettice Knollys gets a bit of a rough deal, especially in the world of historical fiction and drama. I want to think about why she is frequently remembered as the person that got in the middle of Elizabeth I and her “true love” Robert Dudley?
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Portrait of Mary I of England by Antonis Mor (1554). Held by the Museo del Prado.
Portrait of Sir Francis Knollys by an unknown artist (c.1572). Held in the collection of Greys Court.
Portrait of a Woman, probably Catherine Carey, Lady Knollys by Steven van der Meulen (1562). Held by the Yale Center for British Art.
Portrait of Queen Elizabeth I in coronation robes by an unknown English artist (c.1600). Held by the National Portrait Gallery.
Portrait of Lettice Knollys attributed to George Gower (c.1585). Held in the collection of the Marquess of Bath at Longleat.
Portrait of Walter Devereux, 1st Earl of Essex by an unknown artist (c.1575, based on a work of 1572). Held by the National Portrait Gallery.
Screenshot from Simon Adams, ODNB entry on Lettice Knollys (2008).
Portrait of Robert Dudley, earl of Leicester attributed to Steven van der Meulen (c.1560-1565). Held by The Wallace Collection.
Pair of stamp size miniatures of Elizabeth I of England and her favourite Robert Dudley Earl of Leicester by Nicholas Hilliard (c.1575). Held in a private collection.
Portrait of Robert Devereux, 2nd Earl of Essex after Marcus Gheeraerts the Younger (early 17th century, based on a work of c.1596). Held by the National Portrait Gallery.
Allegorical painting of the crown passing from Elizabeth I to James I, by Paul Delaroche (1828). Held by the Louvre Museum.
Portrait of King James VI of Scots and I of England attributed to John de Critz (1605). Held by the Museo del Prado.
Portrait of Anne of Denmark attributed to John de Critz (1605). Held by the National Maritime Museum, London.
Photograph taken in the Collegiate Church of St Mary in Warwick, Beauchamp Chapel, showing the tomb of Robert and Lettice Dudley. Taken by Chris Nyborg (2006).

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@Dreymasmith 2 года назад

Elizabeth has always struck me as a "have your cake and stop anyone else from eating anything" person.

@g.c.4824 Год назад

Yeah, could be she was spiteful for not being able to marry

@JupiterMuffles Год назад

While not eating it herself

@ileanaacacostaacosta1813 Год назад

Lettuce knew that Robert Dudley was Elizabeth s greatest and only love and that they were lovers secretly for many years Robert was the queens common law husband in a way and she should have respected that I know Elizabeth was a difficult person but Leicester in a way was her turf they were family that should count I think .Lettice for me was fir me a little snake

@jegsthewegs Год назад

From her birth And all through her life was under constant threat of death because of her position. It isn't at all surprising that she developed the personality and character that she had. Whatever, she was a Brave and Courageous woman in a world of men.

@bbybella9937 Год назад

Robert Dudley did the same towards her. He was upset that she was considering marrying the Duke of Anjou even though he himself was married to Lettice.

@susanhepburn6040 2 года назад

Yes, I think Lettice got the short straw. I understand Elizabeth not wanting to marry, but I think this feud with Lettice is a classic case of, 'If I can't have him, nobody else can...'

@Natalie_11188 2 года назад

Exactly. It also didn’t help that Lettice was her cousin, and rumors say that Lettice was the image of Elizabeth, only “prettier”. I think Elizabeth was jealous- pure and simple.

@lynnedelacy2841 2 года назад

And why not ? With all the power that Elizabeth had she still couldn’t marry the man she loved

@jamiemohan2049 2 года назад

@@Natalie_11188 given the fact Catherine Carey was born during the affair of Mary Boleyn and Henry VIII, it seems more likely they are half-aunt/half-niece. Too odd for 1st cousins once removed to look that alike.

@Natalie_11188 2 года назад

@@jamiemohan2049 I agree. I think it’s very likely they were related on both sides.

@midnight_rose2337 2 года назад

Elizabeth was also known for her short temper. I can see where she would have had quite a vindictive additive towards Lettice marrying her beloved Dudley when she, the queen of England, couldn’t.

@ribanamay3724 2 года назад

Her life was more than just a marriage❤️ is a sentence that should be in every history book on women

@Shane-Flanagan 2 года назад

So true 👍

@joannaerhardt7294 2 года назад

👏👏👏

@farfallinaazzurra5318 2 года назад

Except, in the past the one you were married to defined who you were

@ribanamay3724 2 года назад

@@farfallinaazzurra5318 Nobody is solely defined by family/spouse. People have unique personalities.

@farfallinaazzurra5318 2 года назад

@@ribanamay3724 in our present time, yes. But we're talking half a millennium ago, here

@pambrandon4186 2 года назад

I love hearing Lettice presented as a real person and not as a cardboard "she-wolf".

@joannaerhardt7294 2 года назад

Poor Lettice. No parent should bury their child. To outlive all your children is unfathomable! I have 3 kids and can't even (and don't want to) imagine the sorrow she must have felt. She definitely deserves better representation from history. Thanks for sharing!💖💖

@obcl8569 2 года назад

Dr. Kat quoting Beyonce is the joy i didn't know i needed today. Gah, love you woman!

@theresecatalano4017 2 года назад

Elizabeth did expect Robert to never marry, which is an unreasonable expectation, even for a Queen.

@EH23831 2 года назад

She was a narcissist, I reckon...

@hogwashmcturnip8930 2 года назад

@@EH23831 Like father, like daughter.

@lynnedelacy2841 2 года назад

And why not? if he truly loved her he could have been her lifetime companion but instead in her eyes betrayed her by marrying someone else who was younger and supposed to be a prettier version of Elizabeth which was seen by her as extreme betrayal

@marysstella_ 2 года назад

@@lynnedelacy2841 He did stay her loyal friend and companion for all of his life! But this man also had desires- after Elizabeth had finally made clear she would never marry he had to move on. Try to imagine how he felt. Had he stayed Elizabeth' lover knowing she would never take him wholly his heart would have broken. He needed to ease his conscience and thus decided to settle down with Lettice whom he was affected to and could marry.

@myrtle1234 2 года назад

He needed legitimate heirs who would survive him.

@alisonridout 2 года назад

I've read the novel My Enemy the Queen by Victoria Holt countless times so I've always been intrigued by Lettice. I find her fascinating. I believe Leicester really loved her but was 'scared' of Elizabeth. And to live till 91 in those days was just amazing!

@beth7935 2 года назад

I love that book!! It's maybe not the best writing, but the bits that are bad are legit funny, & it's such fun & engaging reading- & to my surprise it's remarkably accurate, & since you learn much better from stories, it's like I got lots of Elizabethan history for free. In contrast to Philippa Gregory- she may be a better writer, but her books make it _harder_ to learn history imo, cos her fake narrative's stuck in your head, & it's hard to even work out which bits are invention, much less change the story in your head. I find Lettice fascinating too, & I think Leicester loved her, but loved Elizabeth as well.

@CieJe.Alexander 2 года назад

It was the novel My Enemy The Queen, that really got me into history. That is, history in terms of real people, true human individuals, not just lofty, inaccessible rulers, nations, and ideologies. For that alone I'll always have a soft spot for Lettice. I'm glad this video showed that she had dimensions. Long before Dudley, she was (unfortunately for her) a younger, prettier version of Elizabeth (its said they were as alike as sisters in appearance). And as Elizabeth's youth was one of such instability, followed by such heavy responsibilities (and restrictions) being pressed upon, that I think she envied Lettice's comparatively simple life. The Queen was so horribly jealous, of her, that while she was one of her ladies-in-waiting, her majesty, was known to often yell/curse at her, to slap, and to pinch her (till it brought the blood) whenever her temper flared. After her marriage to Leicester she had to deal not only with the Queens moods, and the gossip about her husband and Elizabeth...but also the specter of Amy Dudley's unresolved death. On top of all that to lose a child so young. In later years her son Essex's escapades must have kept her on edge. And her daughter didn't seem to make things any easier. This video did a good job of humanizing her, after history has too long dismissed her as the archetypal, self-serving 'she-wolf.' As so beautifully stated here, she was more than a marriage.

@mangot589 2 года назад

Oh wow I remember reading that long ago….

@juliestone9371 Год назад

I loved Victoria Holt! As a teenager, I read everything by her and Jean Plaidy.

@bbybella9937 Год назад

Leicester also loved Elizabeth. His feelings didn’t ever go away for her. As we can see by his letters and him spending more time with her than Lettice.

@revade6698 2 года назад

Obviously, the term "sour grapes" doesn't apply when you're the queen. (Apparently, spin doctors were alive and well even back then - if not well before). Anyway, thanks Dr. Kat for another fascinating trip through Tudor history. Now go and enjoy a well-deserved weekend with Jamie and little Gabriel. 👍❤

@jeanette6396 2 года назад

Thanks for presenting Lettice's side. I think Rbt Dudley had hung around dancing on Elizabeth for a long time, he wanted a wife and heir. Although if he didn't care for Lettice, he would have chosen a younger woman, with a longer childbearing time available. He knew whoever he married, Elizabeth would envy and dislike, as she had with many of her gentle women. Elizabeth saw marrying privately as flouting her authority, but it was a catch 22 because she never would give consent if they had asked.

@terris7842 2 года назад

I’ve always had a soft spot for Lettice after reading an historical novel about her when I was a teenager. I can’t remember the author, but I think she did a fair job of portraying a genuine love story between Lettice and Dudley and the difficulties they had because of Elizabeth. Personally, while I admire the young Elizabeth and her early years as Queen, I think she became difficult, demanding and over-bearing as an older woman. I feel that her paranoia was probably fed by Cecil. Lettice is one of my favourite historical women. I think she was unfairly criticised and judged, dealt a lot of hard knocks in life, and yet still lived as a strong woman doing the best she could. Brava Lettice.

@nancydellinger303 2 года назад

Same here. I read My Enemy the Queen by Victoria Holt and have had a keen interest in Lettice ever since.

@beth7935 2 года назад

@@nancydellinger303 Same! I love that book!

@terris7842 2 года назад

@@nancydellinger303 That was it! Thank you. I couldn't remember the author or title of the book. Should have known it was Victoria Holt. I think I read everything she wrote when I was a teenager.

@nancydellinger303 2 года назад

@@terris7842 I think I read them all as well.

@marysstella_ 2 года назад

I've bought 'My Enemy the Queen' and look forward to reading! I admire Lettice so much. She surely was proud and sometimes very vain but that's how ut turns out when at the centre of attention at court. With no doubt she knew full well how to use her beauty but she never 'meant' to take Robert away from Elizabeth. She fell in love with him and he with her. He never stopped loving Elizabeth but they couldn't marry

@joannshupe9333 2 года назад

The most intelligent discussion I've heard to date on this family and their interactions with the Throne.

@Kbaltrush 2 года назад

So interesting that Elizabeth is always the “wronged woman” here. I can’t help but wonder if her jealousy had more to do with lettice’s relationship to relationships. Whether or not Lettice was the granddaughter of Henry VII, or whether pr not Elizabeth believed it, Lettice was descended from the Boelyns. Her mother and grandmother lived normally with their men. Not something Elizabeth’s mother, stepmothers, aunts, or sister enjoyed. And to have it be her own beloved with whom her kinswoman could live and love had to be galling. Elizabeth couldn’t marry or become pregnant without facing enormous, irrevocable consequences-likely war. I think normal relationships enraged her.

@survivedandthriving 2 года назад

That is a really solid insight - thank you! I had not thought about it that way but I think you are onto something very intriguing, and likely also very true.

@elizabethbower2168 2 года назад

Her grandmother was Mary Boleyn who was a former mistress of Henry VIII

@RaelNikolaidis Год назад

Elizabeth sacrificed a great deal to be a reigning Queen, in her own right, rather than be relegated to royal broodmare. Saint, she was not, but neither am I, so I can imagine being violently jealous of Lettice. Seriously, no other woman would have galled Elizabeth more. If Lord Robert wanted to punish Elizabeth for not agreeing to marry him( and make him king ) he could not have chosen better. 😅

@conemadam 2 года назад

You’ve done it again!!! A huge gap in my inadequate understanding of the Robert Dudley/Elizabeth/ Lettice situation has been filled! You again brought so much history into the light! Thank You!!!!

@denisedick721 2 года назад

Really intresting how lettice is viewed the interloper in Elizabeth and Dudley romance, compared to Anne Bolyn. Lettice being the true wife and Elizabeth being the other woman.

@buffybot5787 Год назад

Even more so Amy Robsart was his legal wife and Elizabeth the interloper. He was legally married to her before her death and he disregarded her the most.

@JeanieD 2 года назад

Oh, this should be VERY interesting! I have always felt that Lettice Knollys is a tragic figure. If anyone was a “she-wolf”, it was Elizabeth I - truly her father’s daughter.

@charlottestewart5802 2 года назад

I read it carefully, but did not find an interesting word. Perhaps you deleted it?

@elisabetta611 2 года назад

So Elizabeth feeling the very emotion of jealousy and being petty, spiteful about it towards the woman who she perceived as a rival for the affection of the ONE man she may have truly loved but was never able to marry for reasons of state and the hateful slander perpetuated on her and their relationship makes her the equal of a wife murdering, lecherous sociopath? Seriously? Even a saint would have been bitter/angry in this situation. Was it "fair" of her to blame Lettice for it all? Of course not. But Elizabeth was as human and fallible as all of us. You saying that that's on par with executing spouses, friends, ministers and robbing/plundering/destroying the monasteries and its priceless art, books etc. makes me side eye y...you know what? No. You saying that is sexism, plain and simple.

@hastiborhani3492 2 года назад

How is Elizabeth being jealous is the same thing as henry murdering his wives including her mother?

@Catglittercrafts 2 года назад

@@charlottestewart5802 wtf?

@Catglittercrafts 2 года назад

@@elisabetta611 Elizabeth was a controlling narcissist. Her gender doesn’t excuse her horrid behavior towards her obsession’s wife. She was possessive and power mad.

@cinemaocd1752 2 года назад

Oh wow, I didn't know that Lettice was Mary Boleyn's granddaughter. That is super interesting and yeah, there is a chance she Elizabeth's niece. That adds a whole layer to an already tangled story! I was wondering if Sir Christopher Blount was any relation to Bessie Blount the mother of Henry VIII's illegitimate son?

@juliedurden1320 2 года назад

I was wondering the same thing!

@hannahwebster5606 2 года назад

I think her mother had like a state funeral which is unusual unless elizabeth was aware of their degree of relation.

@laurabrooks7655 2 года назад

Sir Christopher's father, Sir Thomas Blount, was Bessie's first cousin.

@stephanieking4444 2 года назад

Trying to explain (not justify), the Queen's sour attitude: Elizabeth probably felt twice betrayed when she learned - in emotionally stressful circumstances - of the marriage between Robert and Lettice: one was her long term favourite, the other was a kinswoman and probably a friend ...at least up to the news of the marriage. For many people, betrayal by a friend feels more hurtful than betrayal by a love interest.

@dewrock2622 2 года назад

Looks like she was the one that history "liked to hate". It is amazing that after so much loss she lived to such an old age and in good health. It seems she sss a very strong woman, and as you know strong women are always a good villain...

@sarapanzarella97 2 года назад

Really enjoy how you empathize with these individuals in history. I can’t imagine how hard it was to survive and navigate those times - especially as a woman.

@pamdoherty723 2 года назад

I remember discovering Lettice when I was a teenager and started reading about Elizabeth 1. Of the two women I always thought Lettice would be the one I'd like as a friend. Elizabeth, of course, is fascinating, but Lettice seemed like a good person caught up in extraordinary circumstances.

@limolnar 2 года назад

Lettice has been glossed-over in all the books I've read on Elizabeth. The only thing I have ever read is that she was a rival in beauty. Had no idea she married Dudley. Always had a deep curiosity about Lettice. Wow, what a woman!

@cathyhendrix7552 2 года назад

I love your videos!!! I'm a big history buff. Medieval times are my favorite. The supposed love story of Edward 4th and Elizabeth Woodville and their sons the Princes in the Tower. And then even before them fascinates me. I think Elinor of Aquitaine is a most fascinating woman. I would loved to have known her.

@roslynholcomb 2 года назад

If Elizabeth wanted Dudley she should’ve put a ring on it.

@kogotokLenok 2 года назад

It would have been a terrible political mistake for her. Not only was Dudley her subject, but also there were rumors that his first wife was killed (by him or Elizabeth's order). If you want examples what happens to a queen who marries a guy with a shady reputation for love just google Mary Stuart.

@leonieromanes7265 2 года назад

@@kogotokLenok exactly, it would of been a difficult marriage to pull off. And Elisabeth was well aware of how Mary Stewarts marriage played out.

@michaelsinger4638 2 года назад

Also his family was in disgrace as supposed traitors as well. She couldn’t marry him even if she wanted to (and I do believe he was the one who tempted her the most).

@InThisEssayIWill... 2 года назад

@@michaelsinger4638 fair. But her choice to remain bitter and vindictive about the situation tells us a lot. Clearly they had no understanding if he ended up seeking a wife elsewhere, and she wasn't mature enough to deal with it.

@motorcitymangababe 2 года назад

@@InThisEssayIWill... yeah but who wouldnt be? Imagine being in love with someone and not being able to act on it and they get to move on but you cant for the exact reason that you couldnt pick them. Its not right but its very human and predictable. You would have to be a saint to not be bitter and at least a bit vindictive

@vickinoeske1154 2 года назад

Boy, the Queen could really hold a grudge.

@ardiffley-zipkin9539 Год назад

Elizabeth & Robert Dudley are legendary. Lost love makes us wonder “ What if ?” or recall our younger years. Elizabeth would not have married Dudley because of the scandal of his first wife’s death. Amy Dudley’s mysterious death from a fall down the stairs was well investigated but never accepted as accidental. Elizabeth’s fear of intimacy or marriage was rooted in her childhood due to her father’s horrible murder of her mother, Anne Boleyn. Still baggage aside, Elizabeth and Dudley are unfirgetable.

@cabbking 2 года назад

The more you know about the whole royal mess, the more miserable and depraved the whole lot are revealed to be.

@myrtle1234 2 года назад

Indeed. They taxed the weak and poor mercilessly to fund their houses and entertainments. Tortured and killed their opponents yet are still kept in luxury to this day. People must love to be enslaved.

@prettypic444 2 года назад

Robert and Lettice sound like one of the few Tudor couples who truly loved each other

@marysstella_ 2 года назад

Just like him and Bess. Though they couldn't marry💔

@bbybella9937 Год назад

He still loved Elizabeth even during and after his marriage to Lettice.

@altinaykor364 11 месяцев назад

not really! He married her after so many years of being rejected by Elizabeth and she was the younger image of Elizabeth, which means even marrying her in the first place was because of the actual obsession he had with Elizabeth which no woman (unless if it was someone like her) could satisfy. which means even the beginning of marriage is totally messed up version of love for someone else. even after marriage, he never stopped loving Elizabeth and even in one of his letters he said that she rules his position and heart and soul

@richmorris2870 2 года назад

I’m so glad you’ve done this video and come to this conclusion. I have too following reading ‘the Queen’s Rival’. I think Lettice would make a good film in her own right.

@crimsoncastles5114 11 месяцев назад

Lettice Knollys is one of my favourites. Thank you

@michellefennemamf 2 года назад

Thank-you for this wonderful video! I have played Lettice Knollys at a Renaissance Faire since 2011, and I find her a fascinating person. So many previous actresses have played her as the villainess, and I feel it isn’t a fair portrayal of her. I try to play her as more human-perhaps a bit vain, but certainly not evil. She was far more complex than that. I think she truly loved Leicester-she had a strong relationship with Elizabeth-and marrying Her favourite was a risky move for Lettice. I’m sure she weighed the pros and cons of marrying him, and also considered whether or not Elizabeth would forgive her. History gives us the answer to this-Elizabeth tried to make Lettice’s life difficult after the marriage. And, in most cases, the winner “writes” the history. It makes me wonder how many other people who are betrayed poorly got the short straw in the history books. We often only get the one version. And as we know, there are always 3 sides to a story…yours, mine, and the truth.

@leonieromanes7265 2 года назад

I think she was very similar to her cousin/aunt Elizabeth in looks and personality. They both loved fashion, pageantry and the same man. Lettice was so much like Elizabeth that the Queen found it an affrontery to her ego.🙂

@beverlyfletcher4458 2 года назад

Amazing! Living thru' all those reigns. If only she'd kept a journal.

@neilwinchester9187 2 года назад

After reading My Enemy the Queen, I have always been sympathetic for Lettice Knollys. Thanks for giving her some deserved attention and presenting her point of view.

@kimberlyjwalke3686 2 года назад

Oh my, the soap opera that is the history of the Tudor's, their friends and playmates. It ceases to amaze me at the way people who write historic novels and produce historic films have to add their two cents of make believe into the stories when the true stories are more than juicy enough. Thank you so much for the true facts on an exciting period of history. I have enjoyed all of your videos.

@carolbrady2482 2 года назад

I agree with others concerning the relationships in this video. It has always amazed me about how people male and female handled themselves with all of the palace intrigue and an ax hanging over everyone's head. What a balancing act!

@tricivenola8164 2 года назад

Whoo! Thanks for introducing me to this fabulously unfathomable woman. I can see her grimly smiling, walking that mile a day, having survived everyone and everything including the rapacious Queen.

@laineymac4133 2 года назад

Her life story is so heartbreaking. Impossible to imagine what it must have felt like trying to carry on your life with someone you love with the pressure on you that the queen is completely unhappy with you.

@bbybella9937 Год назад

What did she expect?

@laineymac4133 Год назад

@@bbybella9937 I don't know, shall i get in my time machine and ask her?

@bbybella9937 Год назад

@@laineymac4133 I mean I’m trying to understand why her story is heartbreaking. She knew what she was doing and she accepted the consequences.

@sandisteinberg1579 2 года назад

Thank you for giving us the correct pronunciation of her last name.

@collnss 2 года назад

And her first!

@alexandralusco 2 года назад

Yes indeed. I thought it was Lettuce Knollis!

@collnss 2 года назад

@@alexandralusco I wasn’t sure because I have heard it pronounced like the vegetable. 😂

@ameliecarre4783 2 года назад

I don't think we should consider the mariages of high ranking noble people of the 16th century through the filter of live stories, nor the mariages that did not take place as non-love stories. People married for rank and status and fortune and land, that was perfectly legitimate, and the Queen married no one because of power and politics, also legitimate. It has little to do with who loved whom, or who slept with whom.

@Author.Noelle.Alexandria 2 года назад

And it all resulted in so much heartbreak.

@ladysiam3024 2 года назад

Elizabeth was a great queen but a shrew in a her personal life. Love your videos....from Baltimore, Maryland!

@kel1559 2 года назад

I had heard that Lettice Knollys was a younger, prettier version of Queen Elizabeth. Probably she was also more carefree due to having less responsibilities than her cousin and possible aunt.

@lisalightner8068 2 года назад

Very interesting and you’re absolutely right in suggesting she’s been tarred and feathered by historical fiction authors. Well done.

@AvaCherry189 Год назад

Ment years ago I read the book “My Enemy the Queen” by Victoria Holt under the pen name of Jean Plaidy. This RU-vid follows much the same story. Victoria Holt wrote many historical novels. I think you and she did good research.

@eaglegirl9939 2 года назад

Very interesting video, definitely something to think about. I think I like this version of Dudley and Lettice's life together.

@jormungandrmidgard5976 2 года назад

This was excellent. I do wish we could get these stories in tv adaptations, we have so many of the kings and queens, but what of those around them.

@DavidBrowningBYD 2 года назад

These names are so familiar to anyone who knows Donizetti’s Tudor operas (often mislabeled a trilogy, but never conceived as one). The only name missing is Mary Stuart, but she was likely involved in the plot somehow!

@ElizabethF2222 Год назад

I find it interesting that everyone blames Lettice and even Elizabeth but never Robert? He was the one going back and forth between the two women. It's curious that women always seem to want to blame the other women but not their husband in the case of affairs! Great video! PS Before anyone comes at me, not ALL women, just some blame the other woman and not their husband. Some do blame their husbands as well as the other woman and divorce him for cheating. Just meant the majority and it's very curious to me.

@juanitacarrollyoung2979 2 года назад

Thank you, Dr. Kat. Very interesting, indeed.

@Olivia-io9sb 2 года назад

Your narration and presentation really bring history to life and have revived my interest enormously. Thank you.

@irisElee 2 года назад

Victoria Holt wrote a great romance story based on this.

@susannjarvis5587 2 года назад

As always, another fascinating examination of history and legend, particularly the ongoing speculation surrounding Elizabeth I and Robert Dudley. How attached to him was she really. For wasn't it Robert Dudley that Elizabeth wanted to marry off to Mary, Queen of Scots? Was it more a matter of being upset that he chose his own path and married Lettice? And in Elizabeth's egotistical view, Lettice had to be the villain. Thank you, Dr. Kat. I learn so much from your videos.

@patriciapalmer1377 2 года назад

Lettice is quite beautiful in this portrait next to Dudley's compared to many other women of this era. I always thought her a very sympatheric character and it was clear to me that Dudley loved her, and he played up to Elizabeth as any savvy courtier would in the same circumstances.

@AshleyLebedev 2 года назад

Oh yay, i requested this a while ago and I am so happy to see it! This subject and these two just fascinate me. Thank you for covering them!

@mattmanglos2179 2 года назад

Please do something of Cecile Neville ( Cecily of York) !

@shanny4306 2 года назад

I find the power people of certain titles back then truly amazing . It sure gives a lot of food for thought .THANKYOU for sharing all your knowledge and such wonderful chats.I have tried over the years to guess at so many puzzles and with your charm and warmth you make things so clear.

@elisabetta611 2 года назад

I will always be a Bess/Robin "shipper" but I agree, Lettice has been demonized very much like Anne Boleyn was before her, even for similar reasons. (See, I DO believe Henry loved BOTH Katharine AND Anne!) Well done, Dr. Kat!!

@hollyjoboerse3945 2 года назад

I have always been interested in Lettice and as a teen read "My Enemy the Queen" by Victoria Holt. Of course, this was historical fiction, but I found it fascinating. Thank you for your factual historical reading...I enjoyed it very much!

@TaCxNUK3 2 года назад

What a survivor. Must have been strong to deal with all that.

@theclassicso8094 2 года назад

This was very fascinating. To have lived into her 90s at that time is incredible. I love your presentations and always look forward to them. Thank you.

@kogotokLenok 2 года назад

Thank you so much for the video! I had no idea Elizabeth and Lettice were related! Elizabeth was a great queen, but definitely a villain in Lettice's story. But I guess it's not great when you can't be with a person you love, so I kind of understand why the queen was so vindictive

@joycebutler3820 10 месяцев назад

Elizabeth loved no one but herself, she was her mother’s daughter

@madrigal669 Год назад

Great look at Lettice Knollys, a character I first met (as did many here) in the historical novel "My Enemy the Queen" by Victoria Holt. I enjoy your videos very much.

@ShallowApple22 2 года назад

I've missed the tudor uploads you do such an amazing job of them x

@TheMelbell130 2 года назад

Really love these videos. Love hearing the in depth analysis of these figures in history

@gaiafox4286 2 года назад

your videos on amazing women from the past are my favourite amongst all on your channel, thank you for the wonderful work, it's fascinating to learn about Lettitia, I think that yes, Elizabeth expected Dudley to not marry at all or marry someone of her choosing (purely transactional) that he wouldn't love, like, respect or desire; she could not marry for political reasons but it doesn't mean that she wouldn't have romantic feelings or desires. I think both women were in sad position here but at least Lettitia had her man marry and support her without extra agenda which the queen could never have. It's such a thrill to look at people from the past and people now and see how much we've changed... and how little human nature really changed, How gossip, sexual affairs, romances, power games, competing over partners etc. is still the same as it was for millennia...

@ReadingthePast 2 года назад

I think your transactional point is a great one… after all she made a show of offering him up to Mary, Queen of Scots. I wonder what she would have done if either or both of them had actually been keen on the idea?

@jo-anbryson466 2 года назад

Wonderful, I love the way you give dates and so much information. Thank you.

@Niki_I-Cup 2 года назад

Love love love your channel. I just let it play in my ears, while working away! Thank you for doing this! ❤️ Love from Los Angeles!

@williamberven-ph5ig 8 месяцев назад

Elizabeth, with the marriage-social constructs of the time couldn't marry Lesister without losing power. I can understand her fury and frustration watching he cousin secure what she couldn't have but it was her choice. Lesister desired an heir. He would never have one with the Queen. Lettuce must have known that marrying the Queens favorite would leave her forever ostracized. The decisions made ensured the inevitable outcome.

@alexandralusco 2 года назад

Very interesting video. Thank you! What a long and fascinating life she led, punctuated by so much personal loss. Looks like Robert loved both women. Surely I can’t be the only person who thought her name was pronounced ‘Lettuce ‘a la salad’ Knollis or Knollies’?!

@LindaHarward 2 года назад

Thank you for this informative video. I had no idea who Leticce was except as the woman Dudley married and how it angered the Queen. My goodness, how complicated those relationships are!

@tambranicolekendall102 2 года назад

I love your channel! I always learn something new. Thank you for bringing such exquisite quality and presentation to the various topics of history.

@courtneystewart8006 2 года назад

Your Chanel is so calming and interesting! Rely appreciate the historical insights. I think your story in the video demonstrates the pattern of powerful people shaping the narrative historically and today. It makes perfect sense that this would be the way things were vrsus how they are told so long after such events. Thank you for offering an insightful and nuanced alternative narrative, in this and all videos you do.

@MeMe-nw9mq 2 года назад

Love your channel! I love history, any type of history. I am so happy to have found you. Keep up the wonderful work. You are a genuine pleasure to listen to.

@patmullarkey7659 2 года назад

This is all new to me on Dudley and Elizabeth. Thank you for providing a more balanced view of history.. Or should I say "herstory"?

@christopherbrown5409 2 года назад

No, because "herstory" is cringe and only continues the divide you complain about

@susanwozniak6354 2 года назад

Actually, history has nothing to do with a him. I heard this in a lecture given by Professor Gregory Nagy, so I never knew whether the meaning of history was supposed to be the sentence, "I witness," or the phrase, "eye witness." Online, the matter is complicated. The several definitions include, "inquiry," as both the act of seeking knowledge and the knowledge found. While another definition is simply, "story."

@marysstella_ 2 года назад

@@christopherbrown5409 It doesn't establish a divide actually. ' Herstory' aims at highlighting the importance of women in the past- since in HIStory books it is mostly told of men's achievements

@alysonleafreeman5847 2 года назад

God, I love your videos! Please, just never retire!!!

@lindahouston5635 Месяц назад

Elizabeth was being unreasonable about her cousin. But she didn't want anyone else to have him. I think Lettuce won in a way. She outlived Elizabeth and was apparently healthy after all that. But the poor woman had a ton of tragedies in her life.

@jennydebney2215 2 года назад

Thank you Dr Kat. I like the way you deconstruct the popular myths regarding the Royal History of England. Thank you. You ar every refreshing and I enjoy your videos very much.

@fpiper75 Год назад

I recently stumbled onto your channel and I absolutely love it. I am planning a trip to London in April and I wanted to listen to more history and you have really been educational. Thank you ! :-)

@charlottereitberger6253 2 года назад

I always hit the like button before I listen because I know It will be quality and hold my attention effortlessly! Thank you for educating us! I think you are spot on with Lettice. Contrary to history books).Cheers from 🇺🇸

@madiantin Год назад

Fascinating video! I'd not heard this information before, only seen the depiction of Lettice in Elizabeth R, which wasn't very flattering. Thank you so much.

@kimberlyperrotis8962 2 года назад

The only thing I don’t admire about the great Elizabeth I is her vanity. She was completely unforgiving to anyone who didn’t maintain the fiction that she was the only beautiful, desirable woman in the kingdom. Maybe one more thing, she did nothing for the sailors and soldiers who fought in the Armada, even the ones who were disabled. I know she claimed she was too broke, but she could have cut back on her silk gown and jewelry purchases a bit, to help at least those who could no longer work after their service for their country. She was liberal enough in making promises beforehand.

@hogwashmcturnip8930 2 года назад

She left them to starve on the ships, refusing to let them disembark, so that she could thin down the wages bill. And now we have Covid and a certain govt thinking along the same lines! Think of the money they can recoup if all the weakest members of society drop dead

@myrtle1234 2 года назад

@Turnip Such was Cuomo’s approach in NY. House the infected in elder care facilities. Dispatched thousands.

@christina3521 2 года назад

She also did not send money for food to the soldiers in the Netherlands. That she was Gloriana was sheer Tudor propaganda. Even more bloody Than Mary 1.

@theaxe6198 2 года назад

I had no idea

@charlottestewart5802 11 месяцев назад

Lettice and Elizabeth looked just alike. I showed an image of Lattice individually to my husband, to my daughter, to my granddaughter, and a couple of friends, asking each to identify the lady in the image. Each identified the image as Elizabeth I. Clearly, they were cousins through her mom and aunt-niece through her dad.

@chloe6588 2 года назад

Fab video! Thanks for sharing her story!

@sinclairlanier4081 2 года назад

Wonderful! I loved this presentation! It is such fun to learn about the people who were in the heads and hearts (and, sometimes just in the bedrooms) of the Kings and Queens.

@MuzakFavo Год назад

You are a wonderful (hi)story teller! I find I mourn Lettice a bit even though she had a long and eventful life. She becomes a real person through your video! ❤ Thank you!

@Myke_OBrien 2 года назад

Fascinating, as always! 👏👏👏

@blorac9869 2 года назад

Excellence is always the rule on this channel! TYVM!

@hannahl.7202 Год назад

Thank you very much dear doc Kat ! I am fascinated about Tudors .

@kathyk7598 Год назад

I believe that Lettice knew what the consequences of having a relationship with Dudley would be, but she did it anyway. Was it worth being #2? I guess to her, it was. I don't think she fully realized just how much she would lose. Sad story, but it was her choice.

@elizabethraitanen5057 2 года назад

Another interesting video! Thanks Dr. Kat.

@jenilin42 2 года назад

Love your documentaries!!

@RRyan-bn8km 2 года назад

I just checked and found that I was not subscribed...?? don't know why, but I checked in again. Good work Dr. Kat, love your channel.

@Anamal-wi8sk 2 года назад

I wondered why I haven’t seen any of your videos for a while. RU-vid unsubscribed me. That’s not cool. This is one of my favorite channels.

@oohforf6375 2 года назад

Was waiting for this one!!

@KatTheScribe 2 года назад

Very interesting, I didn't know much about Lettice. What an interesting life she lead, joys and sorrows both. Thanks, Dr. Kat. See you next week.

@robynw6307 2 года назад

History is written by those of the time. And they would not have written anything against the Queen. Thus, the truth was rewritten to enhance their potential climb up the social ladder, and Lettice was the scapegoat in this particular chapter. Thanks for a very interesting video, Kat.