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“Someone changing headers while wearing a Grand Seiko” The subtle quotes from RCR are the best, because not everyone is gonna know what that means, but if you know, you know.
Totally on point. I was looking for a 4runner three years ago and the pricing was silly. You could get a GX 460 for almost 10k less and get more car for your trouble. No brainer. Pricing has gone up since but still decent.
That's exactly why I bought the vehicle in this video. Was looking at 4Runners and saw GXs going for less. Looked into them and found out they're just an upbadged version of a LC not sold in the states. Sold!
@@knaudi86 can confirm. As I said, I'm the owner of the vehicle in this video. I bought it in April 2021 for about 20.5k after talking them down from 22. If I sell right now, I'm looking at 26-29k
"When his Jeep Grand Cherokee's SECOND ENGINE died ONE DAY past it's warranty." Well that just sums it up. I seem to remember more videos of the Jeep Cherokee getting put down than any other vehicle during Cash For Clunkers.
@@PissBoys Oh... I can't argue with you there. That inline six is the kind of engine (to quote Mr. Regular) "that marketers and accountants will never let happen again."
@@PissBoys our 4.0 refuses to die, no matter what. Accidentally ran it without oil and it was able to survive a quick 10 mile drive before I even noticed. The thing that will finally end our Cherokee will be electrical, and even then you rip them out and put in new ones. 450k miles in and there's doesn't seem to be an end in sight for it.
Hi, GX owner in the video. I had a 2012 Grand Cherokee. Had the 3.6L Pentastar First engine died at 89k and was under CPO warranty. I bought an extended warranty for it after haggling the price of it down when I picked it up from the dealer with its 2nd engine. Bastard spun 2 bearings at 40k in...full synthetic oil every 5k and during that year after the first replacement, I was mostly work from home due to COVID. So it wasn't even ran that bad/much.
@@TOGC yea dodge vehicles are complete junk. My dad and I had a 2020 srt Hellcat and the engine blew up at only 20,000 miles. They didn't want to replace the engine under warranty and it took the dealership almost an entire year to do it until we started calling the dodge headquarters to complain. The dealership then magically finished the engine swap in about two weeks. When we received the car the catalytic converter was going out so we traded that junker REAL FAST. to put that in comparison I know a small garage that can replace a e350 econoline van engine within a month and cars shouldn't be exploding at 20,000 miles since my Toyota FJ Cruiser is 6 times that mileage 🤣
The 4runner slowly creeping up behind the GX460 at the very end was almost like a sign of death. It'll come for us all in the end. Even the boring ones.
Death? Coming for a Toyota SUV? Well... Maybe if it was rust, that's the only way a Toyota SUV dies. They'll outlast the nuclear winter we're going to go through.
Lexus GX460 is like a guy born in 2002 who doesn't identify with Gen Z. He always hung out with 90s kids after school and deleted TikTok when he bought a new phone. Statistically, he's Gen Z, but socioeconomically he doesn't quite make the cut for Gen Z, just like how Lexus GX460 is not a 4Runner. Thanks for the inspiration Mr. Regular
Thanks for calling me out. Anyways, time to refute being a zoomer some more despite knowing I will only ever be a zoomer to everyone that isn't like-minded.
Yeah but the V8 in the GX is NOT a V8 in driving experience. The engine is absolutely anemic- it could just as easily be a NA 6 cylinder. I think a 4runner is actually faster due to the weight difference since the engine performance difference is barely noticeable.
For anyone looking to acquire one of these, there are a few minor issues that just about all GX460s suffer from: secondary air injection pumps will die (as outlined in the video) and the switching valves for certain model years had a CSP for replacement. Water pumps will last roughly 100,000 miles in most cases but I would strongly recommend a replacement beyond that mileage threshold as almost all Toyotas suffer from water pump failure prematurely. The camshaft cradles and front timing cover will leak oil. This isn't really an issue unless you have a garage floor made from wool shag carpet as it slowly seeps and never loses too much between oil changes. The 'coolant valley' (called the heat exchanger by Lexus) is an aluminum plate sealed with gasket sealant underneath the intake. They all leak coolant eventually. Typically once winter rolls around and you kick the heat on you'll notice cold air at idle and hot while driving. The transfer case has an electric locking mechanism that can be engaged with a button in the cabin with the car in neutral or park. For the love of God just engage that thing once a year at least to keep it from seizing and causing issues. On some models the button is neat your right knee from the drivers seat and it can be accidentally engaged, then will freeze up and can't be disengaged without holy intervention. The rear door lock actuator can freeze up too, and there is no manual door lock override. (an oversight on Toyota's part) at the first sign of door lock failure, get that thing replaced or you won't be opening the rear hatch. Ive been a Lexus Master Technician for many years and these trucks are genuinely great every day vehicles and can be exceptionally capable if correctly outfitted. They're not terribly difficult to work on and I've never seen a drive line failure that wasn't preventable with regular maintenance and keeping an eye on the vitals.
@@scotttownsend5540 Did they ever fix the gasket seal leaks on the later models like the 2012+ 5.7 Tundras with their gasket sealed two piece head leak?
@@paladain55 Unfortunately, no. Since it's inception the UR V8s have seen very few updates in overall design and construction and still use a 2-piece FIPG sealant head design for the cylinder head. The heads won't leak at the block but they seep a bit of oil after a while where the cam cradle meets the head. The grey sealant maker material will simply harden over time and allow oil to seep past. Toyota/Lexus only provides black seal maker to dealers/customers so you can tell if the engine has been resealed if there is black gasket maker along the seams. It's not common, but valve cover gaskets can also harden and leak a little bit of oil as well. Thankfully the GX features port fuel injection only and does not have high pressure fuel pump gaskets that always leak on the LS460, which has both port and direct injection.
@@paladain55 You really can't go wrong with any well cared for Toyota product. I certainly don't mean to deter anyone from picking up a used or new GX, just a few things I've seen over the years that a prospective buyer should include in a pre-purchase inspection. The oil leaks are more of a slightly messy inconvenience than an engine killer. There are always going to be more exciting/better looking/faster cars than Lexus's but I can't imagine wanting to work on anything else for a living.
That's the best part about it... it's stealth... nobody knows what it is... lots of funny moments on trails where Jeep drivers don't know what it is... one time we pulled out a 2WD Ford F250 stuck in the sand with our GX... 4 guys inside... they were concerned the GX wasn't 4WD lol... I didn't bother explaining.. just laughed to myself tugged them out and told them how to drive a 2wd on soft sand without getting stuck...lol...
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD Actual conversation with my boss...sigh I can't find a V8 4runner....(we walk outside)...what the hell is that? 😏 Lexus 4runner V8.
Toyota guys and Lexus enthusiast know exactly what this vehicle is the mass boring market of people will not know because obviously they aren’t into cars unless it looks like a Ferrari but Toyota Lexus guys they see this on the road and they know exactly what it is and what is capable of and how good this thing is. I would consider this a sleeper type of vehicle.
Never thought about sleeper offroaders but here we are. Now, if we were to get a Nissan Juke (eww) with 4x4, reduction gears and offroad tyres that would be funny.
As an Australian, when I went on holiday in the USA in 2007 I was obsessed with the first gen of these. Took a bunch of pictures of them, I think because I was so used to seeing Toyota Prados and the GX seemed so different.
Lol I had this experience when I went to Costa Rica and saw prados and 70’s for the first time. I’m from The US so I had never seen them. Literally inspired me to get my GX today.
I'm the Scott in this video. First engine died under warranty at 89k while cruising at 70 on I287. Second motor died at 132k (roughly 40k later) from a spun bearing. I wish I could make this up.
You think you're the only ones lol? GenX and millennials know that pain too, and back then I was too young to understand that if I took it apart I could fix the motor
I remember when I was car shopping 3 years ago, I was able to catch a decent low mileage 460 "mommy-mobile" for under 30k. That same money only got me a 2wd 4runner. Today, you're lucky to be under 40k for both. Now I regret holding off.
correction, every one remains completely stock until it gets to be 11.5 years old, at which point they instantaneously gain the bullbar, roof rack, snorkel, lift, etc.
I got my GX470 2 years ago right before people found out it was a market replacement for a 4runner. The thing is an absolute tank off road. I took it to black bear pass and imogene with just 1 size bigger tires. Right now its lifted 2in on 33in tires with a few scars. Sometimes people who have never been off road think I am a poser, but most people dont find it boring anymore.
Per Toyota: The Land Cruiser and the Prada are for VIPs to be driven safely and in comfort to the destination. The Land Cruiser 70 is meant to get the humanitarian cargo to the destination. In the US, we just assume that the owner drives his own vehicle. In much of the rest of the world, people who can afford vehicles like this can also afford a full-time driver.
@@jizzyjake6783 My uncle in Vietnam has a Prado TX?, and I have a GX460 in the US. He has a driver. Here, I am the driver. It's not completely out of the question haha.
Friend of mine grew up in Africa and since his dad was a business exec they always got driven around in Land Cruisers / Prados (sometimes armored up, lol).
Just the fact that this is compared to a G Wagon says a lot about the truck. I love mine. I do see some pointless characteristics as trimming out a off-roading monster with top tier leather and sound insulation is sort of an oxymoron…but it is a pretty unique vehicle. It might be boring in the sense that the you only have to open the hood once every 5k miles or so for an oil change…. If your a DIYer… but if someone else does your oil changes, you might as well install the hood latch next to the oil drain plug because you will never open this hood for anything. Wish RCR would’ve given it a bit more props in the end because this is truly a legendary and unique truck for what it is…. Consumer reports ranked it the #1 most reliable vehicle for 2022… not SUV… #1 car ….. not bad for a 13 year old truck.
we never complained once about leather and premium sound while off roading... I like the butt warmer and the heated/vented seats too while off roading! Why wouldn't anyone like these things off roading? Convenion?
These definitely aren't that small in person but they're not considered large here either. They're on the upper end of "medium" or lower end of large for SUVs here. A small SUV is like a Honda HR-V or Lexus has the UX. Basically lifted car-wagon things.
I took my GX470 on a 3 hour off road trip this last Saturday. There was melting snow up top still, and melting snow means mud. I aimed for every puddle, every mud bog, every pile of slush. It's filthy and it will stay that way for a little bit longer thanks to your video :)
When I started my job at my warehouse, folks thought I was an undercover boss. Partly because my outfits are usually Wrangler work pants instead of sweats or jeans. Partly because I drove a GX 460. They ended up asking about it later, and I informed them that I wanted a 4Runner, but the GX 460 was cheaper…. and it has 140K miles on it, and was a decade old. Edit: As for the boring part, I can confirm this is accurate. But then again I drive like a grandfather. So much so, I was averaging combined City/Highway mileage of 21.7mpg! So yeah, no exactly an aggressive driver.
I got tired of adding oil to defective German engines that they claim are working as intended. I think Lexus makes a classier interior, albeit less modern, than the Germans anyway. I do have to admit though that the GX is a slug to drive
6:55 Are you seriously singing Gordon Lightfoot Sundown? Other than "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" I didn't think he was known like that outside of Michigan! I love these little quirks you put into your reviews!
@@TOGC been a Toyota mechanic for about 15 years know and have heard everything from the IH8MUD forum and 90% of it guys wishing they actually knew how to work on their car. I am also a proud 1997 XJ owner and a 2004 GX470 owner. Just put a big steal bumper on my GX470 after someone bashed in the OEM one at the drive thru
@@TOGC IH8MUD can be good but there is also a lot of bologna on there. My GX470 has 230k on it and the air pump filter has never been changed and it still works flawlessly and I personally have never changed one. Usually the air bags fail when mine fail I will be buying the iron man off road lift kit and delet the whole system
@@fj60driver thank you for the tips! On my old grand Cherokee, I did most of the work myself, from installing the lift to drilling holes in the unibody to get JKU rock sliders to mount on my wk2. They did their job lol. I'm not scared to dive into working on the GX. If anything, installing a lift looks a million times easier!
@@TOGC best thing you can do with a GX is change your fluids every 30k and Spark plugs every 120k and drive it. Use only Toyota Transmission fluid. I built my XJ up with a old man emu lift and big tires and all the other fun stuff but still prefer the Lexus with Goodyear Dura-Trac tires. Probably going to sell the Jeep to Mod the Lexus. It gets better mileage and can do 80 MPH on the interstate all day. I always have a old straight 6 Jeep in my life or a Toyota 4×4. However as a old school Jeep guy nothing beats a Toyota in the real world.
@@12ealDealOfficial I think I’m a little thick this morning. This is not Matt’s Lexus, so how was my comment wrong? The other guy was quick to be condescending but then not respond when I asked what I missed.
@@cleverkitsune4302 don't need to buy a Grand, Seiko makes awesome watches at every price point. Granted the last 2 decades most of them have looked like ass so you'd have to go back to the 90's to find a decent design
For a man who loves 4Runners as much as you do, I don’t know how you don’t see the appeal: it’s a 4Runner with a silky V8, rather than that dog of a 4.0 V6. Plus it has a nice stereo.
Gx460 - zero to 60 - 7.8 seconds Jeep Grand Cherokee hemi zero to 60 - 7.4 ( from 5.7 liters ) The Lexus is far from boring and twice and reliable has the comparable Jeep of the same year
These are Landcruiser Prados. It's easier to explain what the 4runner does NOT have: A center differential, fulltime ATRAC, KDSS standard, V8, 6 speed transmission, Lux, 3 rows, full-time 4WD. Landcruiser Prado is a short wheelbase Landcruiser. The LC got to big, the GX460 is the offroading LC. We drove ours brand new off the lot and to the trails! We've not washed ours once! lol. Best of all it's not pretentious... nobody gets in your business about why you drive a Landcruiser Prado... some funny moments on the trails where people in Jeeps don't know what it is...lol
We have a 2017 and made some overlanding mods, took it out west, and logged 9k miles through highways, mud, Moab, and it took everything like a champ. Values on late models have gone up this past year so get one while they’re still reasonable.
Spot on review. I love my 13’ GX460. The daily commutes are quiet and comfy even while running all terrains. And it’s been great off roading weekends and vacations, gotten me everywhere I’ve wanted to go. Even with chopped bumpers and 33s most people don’t give it a second look which Is fine by me.
Hey...at least that was a "real" Mitsu Zero flying and not another T-6 Texan in drag...good job, airshow. And the MyMathLab comment make me chortle like a bull elk... I'm in that industry and sell AGAINST that product 🤣. And the "prom queen"...ugh. So many warbirds get wrongly labeled "P-51" because that's the only one everybody knows (if it's not obvious, I'm a vintage military aviation geek...to the point that I know the Mustang is not the best by default).
i was so sure after the part explaning how it was boring, he would show footage of it going off road or other gx's offroad with mods, they do awesome offroad and going up hills like a goat
2:29 😅 that was better then laxative! Everything is moving nicely now after that anecdotal. 4:25 My knees would hurt also, after 45 minutes in a grocery cart. 😂
Thank you so much for the fart at 6:34 ! Out of all the things I had hoped would come from this review, a fart was one of them. Thank you, RCR for the fun Saturday!
The newer version of diesel engine code 1GD in its twin version Prado and Fortuner has factory output 201hp, and it's squeezable up to 280hp 600Nm of torque with its stock internal through remapping only, which is insane for a 4 cylinders. Plus, the 1GD diesel (2800cc) much smoother compared to 2GD diesel (2400cc), almost as smooth as Toyota's 6 cylinders 1HD-FTE which can be found in Land Cruiser 100.
I drove a ‘03 Lexus GX few years ago on a 800+ round trip from Houston to New Orleans.. it drove excellent. Very smooth.. I-10 stretches has horrible part of the highway but the cabin was quiet and it handled well. Only con, seats weren’t all that comfortable for a long trip but nothing to complain about..
Its interesting i bought one just because of it accommodating those above 6 foot in the front and rear. The lack of a full sized panoramic roof and no crossover swoop on the roof means the headroom stays consistent so there's no need to lean forward. The steering wheel's telescoping function seems to actually give range. It certainly takes a bit of time to adjust perfectly but its tall body also doesn't lead to the same issues the Tacoma or 4runner has. Though for us tall people, also take a look at the Audi Q7 or even Cayenne if the badge isn't too much, those have wonderful dimensions.
The airshow intermezzo was highly enjoyable. I would really love to see you review some more of those obscure malaise era motor city shitboxes. The kind you see in grainy evidence photos of serial killer cases.
Had my GX 460 for a few years and its an amazing athlete with a k&n air filter, a mod to the gas pedal to make it inline with the brake pedal and driving in manual mode. Tows great, amazingroad trip car , should last 300k miles and great place to be. Its really not a boring ride at all. Amazing car!!
There's an error in the video where he says 2004. For that year, it was a different generation. This one is from 2007 and up or so. These also cost like 30k right now and most of them have over 200k miles on if it is actually for sale. Good luck finding one that has less.
Land Cruiser Prados (because the GX460 was never sold here in NZ) are what rich grandparents with lifestyle blocks out in the wops have. Trev's too old for a Hilux and Bev has had a hip replacement and so can tolerate hoisting herself into one of these things. 90% of the time it's used for "popping into town" to buy feed for the animals that the grandkids can't legally keep inside urban areas and 10% of the time pissing people off because they're towing a caravan to the same campground they've gone to every Christmas for the last 50 years and Trev absolutely REFUSES TO PULL OVER AND LET OTHER PEOPLE PASS.
This is Not a “boring” vehicle. These are engineered so well that it can be completely normal/smooth on road while being a beast off-road with no compromise in between. Only great engineering can produce a vehicle like this. There’s a reason why this vehicle is loved all over the world and it’s not because it’s “boring”. Not a fair assumption as if you’re going into this vehicle expecting it to be a BMW M5. Understand the purpose of the vehicle and judge it accordingly vehicle.
I love mine and predictable is a good term. It does what I ask quite well and I have taken it off road ... it did things stock jeeps couldn't and I felt confident in its capabilities. It was also a bargain.
As a someone who lives in a market that sells both the Prado & GX460, i still find myself laughing at the idea that anyone would be seriously willing to pay $30K extra for what's basically a spec'd up version of the Prado when you could get a well equipped 200 series Land Cruiser for less. Otherwise, Prado's aren't that bad of a car. It's just that it's an 11 year old, 7 seater SUV that's bought by English teachers who couldn't afford the full sized Cruiser. Edit: I actually like the Prado but I couldn't for the life of me justify buying a GX.
Naw. We specifically chose the GX460 for off-roading. It's a short wheelbase Landcruiser. That means it's better for actual off-roading than the full size Landcruiser. That's why toyota made it. It's narrow and shorter. The USA doesn't get a dinky world spec 1.3L diesel... we get a V8 with a 6 speed and luxury... Feels like you're driving an offroad Lexus ... not a utilitarian Prado with a hampster-wheel diesel in it...
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD True, sorry for not being clear about it. The GX/Prado actually grew on me lately after years of admittedly dismissing them as a "wannabe cruiser". It's just that i can't justify the current price of a new GX (nor the 300 or LX either but that's another story).
@@Bahraini_Carguy Toyota made the GX because the LC/LX was getting so big that it wasn't ideal for actual "serious" offroading.... In Lexus trim the GX has what the LX does.. just shorter and smaller engine and transmission... they are "expensive" but as you know they last forever and someone will always buy it from you.. 4runner Limited is pretty close to a GX if you can find one with KDSS
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD I think you slightly misunderstood me. The whole point of the Prado imo is to be a smaller and more affordable version of the full sized LC, which is increasingly becoming a large, comfort oriented, family SUV more than anything else. As someone who owns a base model J100, i like the j120-150 Prado and i think it does some things better than the J100-300. It's just that i never fully understood the appeal of the Lexus GX460 from my point of view, it's a decent offroader with a 4.6 V8 and somewhat nicer interior than it's Toyota sibling (the regular Prado has a V6). However, the Prado and 4Runner costs a reasonable $30-45K while the GX is nearly double the price over here. I myself not a big fan of the LX but the GX is a whole another case. If you're going to offroad the GX then I wouldn't mind it at all. However, most buyers of the GX or LX are those who want a Luxury SUV as a highway commuter and nothing more so why the GX owners don't just buy a regular Land Cruiser? That's all really. At the end of thr day, I'm just a moron on the internet so forgive me for being ignorant.
@@Bahraini_Carguy the regular Landcruiser has a longer wheel base. This is not ideal for "american" off roading... this is why the Jeep Wrangler is short wheelbase and people complain about the new Jeep pickup being a detriment off road because it's too long. This is why the Prado was made... short wheelbase Landcruiser. Better for off roading tight trails etc... Fulltime 4wd ATRAC kdss... bigger engine.. 6 speed trans, 3rd row and lux is what separates it from. the 4r... only the Limited 4runner has a center differential, the others do not, atrac has to pressed on, KDSS is a scavenger hunt trying to find one equipped, etc... but bottom line short wheelbase is more ideal for offroading... there's no benefit in being "big" offroad
On the grand cherokee note, I have an 08 overland (fully loaded trim), which is pretty on par with the GX all the way up until 2020 (with the exception of the adaptive suspension), even having mechanical front and rear LSD's as well as the locking center differential, which the gx 460 has only ever had a locking center diff with brake based traction control for the front and rear. My grand cherokee at 122k ish miles (bigger tires throw off the odometer) is on the original engine and trans, 5.7 hemi and 5 speed, and both are in good condition. Minor frame rust problems but its 14 years old in new york. It tows more, has better torque for getting about the same mpg, the seats are fine for this 5'11 driver, the size is great for offroading, its 4 inches shorter, identical wheelbase, same IFS, solid rear. Personally I just think the 05-10 GC (limited or overland with 5.7 hemi) is the better vehicle vs the GX. The only reason I'm comparing the GX to that generation of the Grand Cherokee is because the GX is essentially still from that era, as it came out in 2002, with one major refresh in 2009 but otherwise on the same platform and still largely the same. And yes, I've driven a 2017 GX, it feels the same, although it does have a smoother ride because of lexus adaptive suspension.
my personal alternative (with plenty of battle scars) is a 1999 Lincoln Navigator with a lift kit and huge tires. Love the GX's tho... it was a toss up when i chose a "good big old suv"....
I have a gx470 in off road guise. It’s personality comes from the readiness to do absolutely anything. Rudy is ready to roll at all times, no matter what. It is Steadfast.
