@@Ryan-cp4rh it’s a NA everything else has turbos on it. It’ll perform better on highways or once she’s going. Usually headers and exhaust fix the sluggish feeling.
@@Grenzo_ you shouldn’t but it’s not a turbo or super charged like the others compared to it and it’s 100x more reliable and won’t drain your wallet on “Routine maintenance” I.e head studs on AMGs or Rod bearings for BMWs but I do get your point.
Nice review, this RCF def got full exhaust system. Header, X pipe and mufflers. The brake is Brembo 6 piston front and 4 piston rear. May be you can try to get your hand on a ISF, LC500 and see the evolution. The LC is a weird one, despite bring GT but chassis and brakes are on par if not better than F car. If you say the interior of the RCF is luxury, wait until you sit in a LC500 or a GSF. I have a GSF myself.
No, it is not. LC500 is a GT car because Lexus designed it that way. LC500 is a wonderful and amazing car that does its own thing and RCF does its own thing. Both of the, have a very different driving experience. It is heavier (4400 lbs), soft chassis setup. Steering feels soft, light and over boosted. There is a video of an owner who owns LC500, GSF and RCF. He breaks each down very well in that video. Better power to weight ratio and more aggressive chassis/suspension setup. Also, the transmission in LC overheats a lot due to lack of cooling systems.
Definitely an after market exhaust and the closest I’ve heard to the LC500 out of the box. Nice review! I hope you get your hands on a IS500 soon. Thanks for posting! P.S. The output was 467hp and 389lbft torque until model year 2020. Then it jumped to 472hp.
@@trilingualkid Of course! The original version in the ‘08 - ‘14 ISF had an output of 416hp, then it was tweaked to 467hp for the 2016 F Products and finally 472hp in 2020.
Thank you for the correction! And I'll keep my eye out for an IS500. That would be awesome. Ideally IS500, RCF, and LC500. Maybe LFA at 100k subscribers?
@@trilingualkid Engine was completely reworked from the bottom up when RCF was being designed. Not a carry over engine at all from ISF. It only shares the bottom end block with ISF. Rest is all redesigned. What separates RCF from LC500 or IS500, RCF is an F car so it has all of the hardware bits and tuning like the chassis, suspension, brakes, tires, cooling, seats etc. for double duty track car and street/luxury car. The chassis also feels like a solid one unit brick that simply has no give. RCF was tuned on Nurburgring and Fuji speedway.
That small infotainment screen ruins the interior look... I believe they rectified it with the 2018+ models but still.. what were they thinking cheapening out on an infotainment screen!? Like seriously...
I have a 2016 RCF carbon fiber/TVD myself. It does everything exceptionally well. A lot of that weight of 3900 lbs is due to all of the reinforcements to make the chassis very stiff to be used for the RCF GT3 race car. It certainly has the numbers to back it up with almost 1.00g on the skid pad. These days, even a BMW M2 weighs just under 3900 lbs and about the same size as the RCF. The new M3/M4 are about 5 inches longer than the RCF and weigh similar to the RCF now. RCF has compact packaging so that weight is all concentrated in a short wheelbase helping mask it.
The weight is also because of 3 different chassis for one car. The IS C middle was because a convertible was planned but never happened. We got the RX L instead I agree the weight issue is now gone since everything weighs a ton now.
@@MikeForsythe Hey Mike, every unibody chassis is constructed the same way so it won't affect the weight. All of that added metal means more weight for rigidity, which is what I said above. More rigidity means more reinforcements. More reinforcements cost weight. You are right about IS-C middle section of the unibody. The floor pan is twice as thick as the 3IS and has cross members running across. Just like a roll cage adds rigidity at the cost of weight of over 100 lbs. Officially, it is something like 50% more stiffer than the GS/IS platform. I own an IS350 F-Sport as well and can vouch the RCF is a whole different league when it comes to how different the two chassis feel on the same exact patches.
@@2ZZGE100 A bespoke platform will always weigh less. It’s why the larger 4GS weighs the same as the smaller RC F. It’s why the LC 500 weighs so much as it shares with the LS etc. So the 3 different sections IS/IS C and GS did add complexity and weight. A bespoke RC F platform would easily be a couple hundred lbs less. Not saying it’s bad, I’ve had a RC F, spent 6 months in a Fuji, have had 2 LCs etc etc. Tracked and modded them all. I think the RC F trumps the 14-20 IS easily but the 21+ is very well sorted. Drives much better. I feel the RC F is more of a fun car than a sharp knife as it loves swinging out. It’s a blast. In Europe besides Top Geer, reviews were pretty positive. In the states not as much.
@@MikeForsythe RCF and GSF are not exactly the same weight, Mike. They are officially 120 lbs apart when Savage Geese weighed them on the same scale. Granted, 120 lbs is relatively small difference, but that is because again, RCF chassis is a lot stiffer so I still agree with you, the weight gap is smaller than it should be given they are 1 feet apart in size. The RCF chassis is officially 50% more stiffer than the GSF chassis according to Lexus itself. LC chassis is also very rigid like the RCF chassis. It is just bigger. I don't necessarily agree a bespoke chassis would weigh less if it maintained the same level of rigidity. Unless carbon fiber is used, thicker metal is going to cost more weight. It is just physics. BMW G-series itself is heavier than the F-series M3/M4 for the exact same reason. Other than being much bigger, BMW said they added a lot more rigidity to the G-series platform, which is why it is 400+ lbs heavier than the F-Series M3/M4.
Hell the new mustangs reached our weight class now lol people like to bring up weight any point but it never mattered. They Toyota/Lexus V8 is gone and you better get one before you can’t. Yamaha bred engines are always the best and uh where you getting 8 piston brakes from?
@@ProfessorDrives yessir 6 piston Brembo brake kit are oem and thanks, I plan to keep mine forever. 8 years old with 110k on the clock and drives like brand new.
2is are fast man. Sadly lexus doesn’t care about performance. Only looks and reliability. Isf is the fastest out of the bunch. I have a 4 is350 myself but it’s heavy I don’t treat it as a sports car but a comfortable daily. I do wish they woulda slapped a turbo on the new generations
