happened on my 5th gen 4runner too.. see if the GX has two rubber adjusters under the hood near the headlight, with some spiral grooves cut into them. You can twist them to make them sit higher so the hood won't be as bouncy.
My MDX has the same issue. Its because the hoods are made out of aluminum, so they are lighter and move around more with the wind. Actually, it's better material than sheet metal.
Same failure i faced in my Lx600 and i went to the dealer and they repaired it honestly i didn’t asked what did they changed but it makes huge difference if you want me to ask the dealer let me know
My 5th gen 4runner does the same thing. I was told its a safety thing in the event you are in a collision so the hood crumbles up, absorbing the shock. I sort of got used to it but I hear ya, it seems weird to see that in a “higher end” brand and model.
Ya I hear that it’s a “crunch” zone but to visually see it bowing and flexing makes me wonder why it does so much more than other vehicles I’ve been in.
We had same issue Oz on the LC300, Toyota rectified the issue, Lexus will do the same. Please don’t lose anymore sleep over it, you’ll worry yourself to death ✌🏼
@@JAXEStube they did have to come up with a solution from Toyota which involved some additional adhesive and time to set in the workshop. I’d imagine this is a similar problem. I havent seen it in any recent vehicles so I’d expect it’s been rectified in production. You would think!! Lexus wouldn’t let this happen.
Thanks for this information. My wife and I are considering buying the Overtrail + in 2025, and I’m not buying “normal” on this, at all. I’ve got a Ford F-150 with an aluminum hood and it’s rock solid at 80 mph. It would absolutely bother me to see this when driving at highway speeds, and unless it’s fixed, I’ll go in another direction. Please keep the reviews coming!!!
Oh ya I was getting this or the raptor and I will say the raptor overall build is refined and very solid as any other ford I’ve been in! Lexus did alot right on this but we will see the refinement they might do or not. I’m going to do a final review of the little issues I’ve had with it, but still overall love the vehicle
I think it’s due to the hood being made of aluminum. Aluminum is more flexible than steel but of course lighter. BUT you would think being a Lexus they could have foamed the inside under the hood for noise and rigidity. My 2015 F 150 has an aluminum hood and I notice this going through the car wash but not cruising down the highway.
@@JAXEStube watching many many videos and checking some out at my local dealer I did take my name off of the waiting list for now. Just too many negatives going on here at this time for the money they want. I really love the style, but after looking and checking out some of the issues it seems Lexus has cut many corners in this model, from interior materials to suspension and that engine recall really has me concerned, along with a 17 gallon fuel tank, really 17 gallons on a vehicle thats getting about 20mpg? It seems very Un Lexus to me, so I’m waiting for the 2025’s and hoping for some improvement, and if not I’ll have to go elsewhere. They should at least make the KDSS system an option for all trim levels, that would get rid of the floaty boaty suspension. And an optional 36gallon fuel tank. Not interested in the upcoming hybrid which I would imagine it’s going to be the same setup as Toyotas Land Cruisers. Beautiful vehicle though but I’m not willing to spend upwards of 80G’s and not be happy with at least most of the vehicle. (IMO)
@@noniespam hey you bring up some very valid points of concern. I do wish a lot of what you stated could be addressed by Lexus but I don’t expect them to come back and fix anything now. Hopefully some refinement for future model years. The price point to deal with these little issues is annoying and does rub me the wrong way. Getting 14.3 mpg sucks, some of the cheap interior design sucks, small fuel tank sucks…still overall love the vehicle but there is some sucky parts of ownership of this thing. Still…would probably buy again as what I was deciding between, this still for the money was a better option for me. I bet they will keep their resell value strong also which is a plus
Go tap on the hood and see it vibrate. Thinner than a beer can. We passed on the GX550 due to this issue and are going with the Land cruiser which doesn't have the issue
Still love the vehicle overall just wanted to make some videos of what I think Lexus should improve on, or at least get to show others some or my concerns!
Seen multiple videos mentioned hood fluttering issue. IMHO, it's just mind boggling when toyota cutting cost on those things. The SUV looks really solid, why make the hood looks so flimsy like paper? How much more money will cost to choose thicker aluminium sheet?
@@JAXEStube yeah their are already.. the GM at my dealer was driving 24 Overland and the engine started to rattle real loud, its sitting in the shop being taken apart... Toyota is sending over a team, they said. They have some GX 550, in stock, offered very good money for my 23 460 and tried to sell me the 24... Pass! That hood shake happened to the one I test drove too, flimsy interior feel and dont feel good about those engines. again pass!
Hey lucky you! They did that Land Cruiser right! I’ve been in other Lexus models and haven’t noticed the hood issue whether it be a different construction design or what not could be the difference also.
I had this on my 2023 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Summit, issue with the aluminum hoods. Picked my OT+ up yesterday and the Lexus is less noticeable than the Jeep
Good to know! My 2009 Jeep wrangler was wobbly and thin but would think Lexus wouldn’t be as close but it is. Again idk if I’m complaining about nothing! Hope you love your new OT
It’s a legit complaint but it’s more common now a days across many manufactures. Not sure why they all agreed to let it slide, but here we are. Loving it so far! Incognito with black roof, fully optioned. Been watching so much content the last 6 months it’s nice to finally have
@@barbouradam oh man you’re telling me! A friend and I have sent probably every possible video back and forth the last 6 months like it was our job! Glad you love yours! I’m jealous you got the black top option!!
First dealer orders could have black roof with the offered colors, but lexus quickly changed it to earth only after that, now you can only do earth for a limited production with black and then they will open another color and close earth.
@@barbouradam oh wow didn’t know! Glad I didn’t wait. The 2 Lexus dealers combined got like 4 earth with black tops, 2 silver, 2 caviar. Only ones I’ve yet to see with black top option is the earth like you said. Man it really is a great option to get. Still overall I’m super happy. I’ve had so many comments on the incognito!
boxy suv's typically suffer from this, big body chevy's, for example, have a similar hood flex as well. might be an aerodynamic thing given "slippery" cars don't typically suffer from this until over 100+
I’ve been in several trucks and SUVs that have a very solid hood so I guess why on some not all. I’m in a loaner rx500 and the hood is heavy and doesn’t seem to have the same issue at first impression, but I haven’t taken it on the highway yet to really see
I took my new lx600 to dealer fir the same reason. My hood shakes like crazy after 45mph and it's very distracting. They are saying it's normal fir aluminum hood. I told them they could have used criss bars under the hood. I notice it all the time and it ruins my driving and fun
Ya it’s distracting once you notice it right! I drive freeway daily and it’s moving constantly! I agree, if the entire hood was going to be this thin some structural support could have solidified it from excess movement! It is a little complaint I have overall, still love it but I would change that if I could!
See I agree with this! Is their purpose just ultimate weight reduction and using it as a “crunch zone” ? I guess those are two good speculations people have suggested to why
Is not the hood, is the roof rack!! guaranteed. I had one roof rack installed in my suv, as soon as I left the dealership I noticed the loud sound. I removed the roof rack and immediately the loud sound disappeared. have the roof rack removed and see.
@@advapp yes the hood shouldn’t be flopping. The road noise is only significant with the roof rack on which is understandable. You’re right, the design isn’t about aerodynamics so we will hear a bunch of that direct wind
@@advapp man being 6’5 I’ve always struggled to fit comfortably in Lexus/Toyota but I’m very comfy in this! Haven’t taken it on anything longer than a 2 hour drive but the massage seats with cooling/heating is very nice for longer trips. Visibility is amazing. Floats in comfort mode. I really really enjoy driving. I had a lifting wrangler for 9 years and its night and day different for me
That’s crazy! I had a little hood movement on my Jeep wrangler but I would think quality and construction of Lexus would be a little tighter than Jeep. Overall you will love it! Did you get the overtrail+ as well?! What color! Don’t take my videos as being negative on it, just my way of showing where I think there could be improvements! Again, it’s such an amazing vehicle! I’m very happy with my purchase
No Toyota simoly made it too thin. My 2020 Honda Odyssey and Audi A8 have aluminimum hood. They are fine. No deform nor rattle during highway speed/uneven pavement
Well if you haven’t been paying attention yet Lexus is no more. They are now Toyota + models. Have you seen how much plastic is in their new interiors? So shameful of them to ruin what was once a respectable brand
@@JAXEStube thank you for making these videos btw, they're very helpful for the would-be buyers like myself. Hope I can find an honest dealer out here in southern california though
Add in the shakes, the shivers, the noise, and the lack of room. And hey Toyota…can we move on past 1982? I love you but even last gen felt like a silky silent bank vault vs this shuddering mess.
Haha ya if they could’ve addressed some of these little touches I would say it’s the perfect vehicle! Still absolutely love it just picking at details here which do make the final product worth it or not at nearly 100k all said and done
@@JAXEStube Lexus fanatic with an IS500 & GX now, after a strange “eh tried it but not again” LC500 & bad experience with a 2023 LX600 F Sport that felt worth twice the price of these, but was still a mess. The truck division at Toyota needs to look at competition and not just “okay same wheelbase from 1988. Same horrendous ride dynamics. Same awful packaging. Let’s do it again.” New GX look is fab. The rest disappoints greatly but my LX was “so nice but so bad”, it was baffling. Helps to own 3-5 new cars a year and move on if disappointed. So doubled down & with an OG GX that’s solid as could be, feels like a bank vault, but has a drivetrain vibration too🥴💀 Keep the honest reviews up!
@@bigdlife86 oh wow you have a lot of Lexus experience than! Ya there’s a lot to love on the GX and since I’ve moved from older commuter cars after I sold my wrangler this thing is levels above all those and I still feel spoiled. I just sit back and think for nearly 100k out the door, what do I feel should be better, and these videos are what I’m coming up with. I’ve loved the LX look but good to hear your experience with them. Seems Lexus/Toyota aren’t impressing return buyers, maybe just new buyers just now being introduced to the brand. For now I’m still very happy overall, just hoping for reliability to still be their brand staple
@@alexduque3105 I say get the new 24! I love love love it, don’t let my complaints deter you! I have no regrets, just wishes of some refinement but it is what it is!
Really?!!! Debris?!? That’s horrible! People in their new gx550s thinking they’re all “better than thou” is annoying to think about. I feel good in mine but I eyeball all Lexus gens haha! They’re all so cool
@@JAXEStube I think the recall is for debris in 22/23 toyota/lexus models with the v35-fts engine. It may be why people have been pooping on the new hybrid v6 main bearings. *Your short popped up after I read the article and watch a dif gx550 vid. Cheers!
@@JAXEStubethat’s what these dealers and Toyota don’t seem to get. At these prices this stuff is just unacceptable. Like you say if they were charging more reasonable prices then it would be more reasonable to accept issues. They’ve put a bad taste in everyone’s mouth from the start via pricing and now they expect loyalty and patience.
@@thewholeeventhorizon ya you can’t just Jack up your prices without delivering a product that matches. I have a buddy now going for the Land Cruiser at a cheaper price, less power but overall a very similar product. Even then it’s questionable value for the price point…love the vehicle I just wish it matched up to pricing in some areas
I’ll say a lot is from the removable roof rack, without it the sound is a lot quieter, the test drive I did without the rack was actually pretty quiet, I’m just being a little harsh on the rack noise
@@JAXEStube It shows that only true luxury brands are build from scratch with luxury car budget so to much higher quality ... BMW , Mercedes, Porsche , reliability is another topic due to high complexity and advanced performance these German brands are less reliable and designs are pushing the performance envelope much higher than Lexus Acura or Infinity that borrows heavily from their econo/mainstream brands
@@kdomster9141 I think you have some good points. I do like some of Lexus simplicity that has really grown on me. Fit and finish I think for a new model might be what needs worked out slightly. I would take the reliability surely with these slight complaints I have as that’s where you will spend the most money if that isn’t maintained. Overall it’s still such an amazing vehicle. Just was making a fun video showing my concerns and didn’t expect more than a couple people to watch maybe haha
@@kdomster9141 you’re not wrong there! But this would then be the nicest Toyota ever haha! Have to now drive the new Land Cruiser and forerunner and see their construction