LGR Oddware - Iomega Bernoulli Box 230 Storage Drive 

The Bernoulli system was a staple of the publishing industry. Every print shop and publishing house I dealt with in the 1990's had it. They were the best way to move print-ready files around at the time. Floppies were too low capacity and prone to a random failure in the stack and modems were too slow for online transfer. But when Zip drives came along, the Bernoulli drives vanished quickly, and the CDRs drove the zip drives to the dust bin. If you're still looking for Bernoulli hardware or media, publishing agencies and printing businesses might be a good place to hunt. Many of them have closets full of old tech they didn't discard.

i demand an oddware of Clint's cat

Bernoulli Drive sounds like some sort of faster than light driver for a spaceship.

I have to give a shout out for Bernoulli disks. I have stacks of 90MB, 150MB and 230MB disks. They are all still perfectly functional and work with no issues. They are stored in the worst place possible. My garage, which has temp swings through the year from 120F to 0F. I don't think I have any other functional diskettes or magnetic media from this time frame. Even my HDD's from the same era are crap now. The Bernoulli drives and disks keep on ticking,

Please make an Oddware video about your cat so that we may better understand its inner workings.

Wow I’ve reached the stage where I am watching old LGR and I’m just as nostalgic for old LGR as for the old beige box in the video.

Very interesting and the cat is adorable. Ten years or so back my brother-in-law and I were trying to install some things in an old computer on the dining room table, and my cat helped. The computer would never boot afterwards. I think fluffy cats and electronic circuits do not mix.

I used to use one of these in the early 90s for desktop publishing. The average hard drive was 120MB back then and having one of these external drives was a marvel. I think you need to move the SCSI ID from 0(boot) to something higher like say 5. Make sure you don't have any IRQ or DMA conflicts on the host adapter. I typically set these things to IRQ 5, DMA 3, and disabled the paralell port or move its IRQ to 7. The BIOS may also need Shadow mode turned off. Often times these things required a rubber chicken, a seance, and a few precision crafted incantations to make it all work properly. But once working and as long as you didn't change any hardware it would usually work great. BTW. you touching the floppy disk with your finger nearly killed me as I remember how expensive and fragile these things were. LOL

At my first job we used to have tons of data on Bernoulli, they were soon replaced by Jazz/Zip which were soon replaced by THE CLICK OF DEATH!

is that a metric Garfield or an imperial Garfield?

There's nothing to the right of the power switch. There's a silver screw to the left of it. Now, if you mean the circular parallel port adapter input, I explained that in the video!

I don't always make my videos at 3:40 AM. But when I do, they're about Bernoulli Boxes.

Why is this the only channel with nice people in the comments? Seriously. I hate youtube.

You know when a Floppy Disk and an NES cartridge love each other so much and have a baby? This disk is what comes out of that...

You can duct tape the Hard drive onto the back of the cat, this way when it drops, it will be protected against a crash.

The Campfire Headphase. Though I've been listening to Tomorrow's Harvest rather endlessly as of late, it is superb!

I remember my uncle talking about the Bernoulli Box and explaining the Bernoulli Principle to me a few years before Iomega laid off him just because they didn't want to pay him benefits. My brother assembled ZIP drives at the factory in Roy, UT. He asked if he could take one home and have the cost taken out of his paycheck. He was told no, so he went to a NEARBY store and bought a ZIP drive which had been manufactured in the Philippines. I hadn't been assembled correctly, so he had to use his work tools to take it apart and put it back together properly. Just before its decline, Iomega shut down its primary facilities in Roy in order to move operations overseas and laid off a looooot of people. I loved my 96-megabyte ZIP "100" drive for its large-capacity removable disks, but it was a piece of crap that broke down too easily. Also, apparently Iomega didn't think the internal drives were burning up fast enough, because when my brother helped me install mine, he pointed out that it was missing the protective dust covers that had previously been part of the assembly. (By this point he no longer worked for Iomega.) As poorly managed as that company was, It's no wonder Iomega took a steep nose dive.

Medium Error: Disk medium is not recognized or lacks track/sector indicators. Potentially repairable if you can find a low level format utility that will instruct the drive to rewrite the entire surface. Best bet would be finding early mac drivers for it, using those to initialize the disk; and then reformatting it from windows. Otherwise; find another disk!

56 seconds in and I've suddenly stopped caring about the drive... you need to review your kitty cat!

This video doesn't go into any depth on what the Bernoulli principle is or why this drive uses it. When I was in college a demonstration of the drive was given in one of my classes along with a description of how it works. The disk was flexible like a floppy yet had recording densities like a hard disk. This was possible because the spinning of the disk would bring it very close to the read/write head without actually touching it. That was also supposed to make it more resilient to taking shocks, which would literally crash hard drives when the head scratched the disk surface. The presenter then proceeded to demonstrate the drive's robustness by dropping it onto the floor from about a meter high. The computer reported a drive read failure and it didn't recover. :D

Man I hit a video from 7 years ago. It threw me through a loop at how far your production quality has come. Props to you

First, I love your voice. Not sure of what I'm reminded, but it's an animated (comedic) character of some sort. Second, the 98SE machine shows 3:41 AM. If that's accurate, you are one dedicated geek...and I say that as a dedicated geek.

Read up on SCSI CDB opcodes, man. Literally, if you just read the error number sent (25 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00) and looked up error 25 in an opcode table, you'd see that it's READ CAPACITY(10). If you then read a little about that specific error, you'd see it's a code that's used for looking up the capacity of the disk. If it remains unreported, or is reported incorrectly and checked against, then proven to be incorrectly reported, it gets stuck at that error. What you've got is a bad disk. ...which is also not that surprising considering the way we've all seen you play with magnetic media.

Every video that I have watched from LGR has helped me pass some of my quizes and tests in my college studies. Kinda sad that my professor couldnt cover this in a 2 hour time frame in a day!

Duke Nukem at IBM just made my night. You are a wonderful person.

I cant wait til we get removable media with Cats protecting against Disk crashes..

That is correct. The first one that I saw was back in 1984. The case was made to resemble an IBM PC. The cartridges were bigger than the one shown in this video. There were not a lot of backup solutions at the time. There were a few tapes, but most folks would just use floppy discs. Tallgrass made a hard disk tape combo, but I think the tape only only backup the drive in the same case.

is incredible the power of music in our brains, when the video began I felt a sense of nostalgia. I remembered and this song is from sim city 3000 that I played for almost two decades!

Man the Oddware series is easily my favorite of LGR's, I was excited to see this in my feed!

In my early days of being a submarine sonar tech we had a piece of equipment called the BQR-22A Spectrum Analyzer that used these for storage. It had two built in drives.

Another great, interesting video! Been subscribed to you for years and have not once been disappointed. Thanks for all the cool videos, man!

I believe it is, sir! The stuff has been serving me well.

First your cat walks in the shot, then your iPhone makes a guest appearance in the shot! Tut tut! In all seriousness though I'm liking the new camera. Looks very nice!

oh man.. LGR was incredible even 10 years ago.. I love to re-watch some of these videos to remember old tech.

As a PC technician, I remember the Bernoulli Box. I had forgotten them, but I remember wishing I had the cash to buy one until Zip drives came out. Remember them?

SCSI is legendarily finicky! The slightest fault in a cable will break an entire drive train. This offset how reliable and fast it was when it worked.

Hey Clint, oldy but goody vid. Bonus for the cat. Keep it up. No wait, thats from 2013 so you have been keeping it up. Regardless, great vid......

Love these oddware videos. Keep them coming!

Probably your most intriguing oddware review yet. Couldn't believe how huge that floppy disk was that you showed at the end

LGR in 2013. very different. I love your work dear!

Looking forward to your follow up on this. I think I like your Oddware reviews best.

These are by far my favorite LGR videos, nice to see a new wonky piece of hardware! :D

We had these at the Forest Service office at Clemson University in 1993-1994. They were great for moving around our large GIS files since we didn’t have a network for our DOS PCs.

When I was in college, I knew some people in the graphics design program and Bernoulli disks were all they used to transport stuff around. They were the only media both big enough and safe enough to use for that at the time. The later Zip and Jazz drives (I had both!) had larger capacities but were *far* less reliable and were shunned by pros in favor of just moving towards CDRs and CDRWs, and, finally, USB and SD flash cards.

See if you can find some stuff about the weird cassete drives that used VHS as a digital storage medium. I think they were popular in Russia.

The subject is very interesting, but I would love to see an updated version of this video. This video is hard to watch because it seems to ramble on. Your style has improved so much and there's probably not many other videos about this, so it might be worth while.

How many half beheaded Garfield deep though ? Also, the RU-vid algorithm seems to be favoring your old videos on my end, which is sincerely pleasant.

Bro, your videos are my guilty pleasure and I love them. Thank you for making them and sharing. Keep up the great work and take care, all the way from London, UK.

Oh man, when I was first really getting into PCs my uncle got one of these. I always thought it was so cool and it was SCSI connected no less! Brings back the memories.

I've got another one (230MB) on the way, plus I'll be messing with the settings on the SCSI card itself, so hopefully it'll be up and running eventually!

Ooooh, so nice to see more oddware. I've missed these :D

Nice, always like your Oddware vids. Your videos are always the right length too. Not too short, not too long. Also, random beheaded Garfield ending ftw! Wait, what...?

I love all your oddware videos!

man these bring back memories...I had forgotten all about these and I used to have one.

She's shown up in several of them over the years, so chances are she will again!

I really like that you quoted Baxter Stockman.

Love how rambly he is in these older videos, it's great.

We had a Bernouilli Dual... Awesome stuff. We played all our games from them.

Hi LGR, I love your videos and I wish you could make more like that. Cheers and happy 2016+!

Every once in a while I'm watching LGR and I see an I'76 box, or icon. Can't help but wonder why you haven't reviewed this absolutely awesome game.

This video definitely brought up more questions than answers.

Man, if I come across one of those disks I will definitely send it your way. That machine is amazing.

i served on submarines. we had these drives for a machine that analyzed sound sources. the drives seemed to fail 50% of the time. very frustrating. the common problem was that the plastic notched part at the center of the disk kept getting ripped worn, and chewed up by the drive. on a regular floppy that part is metal.

I'll be damned, where have you been my whole life? :P Screwing around and showing off hardware I grew up with, namedropping TMNT chars while doing a perfect "DNF" era Duke.This whole playlist is like mainlining pure uncut nostalgia, I've owned (or at least spent many hours using) like 17 of these. Without my uncle and hacking suff like this I'd probably become a teen footballer or some other crap.;) FWIW I've seen that error on other Beta drives and I'm thinking the disc is demagged and has lost the "partition table"/boot sector/first blocks with the disk geometry on them. It's dead Jim. Anyways, cheers for that massive trip down memory lane.

Came for the oddware, stayed for the cat.

Why have I missed so many of these videos? I'm subscribed:) Guess I gotta go through them manually.

"Why am I in the shot? I should get out of it!" Hahahahah so cool that you kept this!

The way of measuring the drive size with Garfield was funny in the end :)

There are full reviews of two of them on my channel!

you can have your cat in the videos :) besides your cat looks so adorable! :3

In the late 90's I DJ'd for a radio station that used the Bernouli discs for sending programs, spots, jingles and music for the cluster's automation system. Unfortunately that computer system got rid of us local DJ's too (thanks Capstar, which was merged into Clear Channel).

I dumpster-dived one of these and a few disks in NYC back in the mid-90's, never got it working. Every time I run across it way back in the piles of computer closet-fill and forgotten technology, my brain itches to know what's on those damn disks. My great introduction to the wonderful scuzzy world of SCSI.

I remember these. Few of the computers in the lab at my old college back in the 90's had these, but everyone had their own zip drive by then.

I loved the cameo your cat made. As a cat-loving-geek, I found it quite humorous.

This old stuff is awesome! Also cool SC 3000 bg music!

It certainly does interest me! I actually have one already that I hoped to review, but it does not work. If I could get a working one, I would love to make a video featuring it.

Wow that drive is ultra portable! You should attach it to your keychain and carry it around with you! In all seriousness, I love this Oddware series.

I had access to one of the originals for a time as a kid. It was huge, and at the time stored a crazy amount of data. I remember playing police quest on it. Good times.

Awesome voice! It seems to be getting cooler with every video! =3

Awesome, can't wait 4 more odd ware !!!

Your narration has certainly come a long way since 2013

Cool video dude. I LOVE the oddware vids and the SimCity 3000 music that goes with them. =]

Had one. Might still have it. Used it on my Amiga a lot. Lots of wares swaps were done!

I used to use the old, bigger Bernoulli Box carts with a Dubner DSS4 Digital Still Store. (circa 1989 to 1994) If you can find one of those or a Dubner Painter system, you'll have the big Bernoulli you always wanted, and a cool Moto 68020, or 030 based graphics system.

Cool beans, i have been waiting for you to review some more obsolete crap, they're my favourite of your videos.

She is a beautiful cat. I wanted to see more of her. When I was a kid, I had a writing pad that was a promotional item from iomega and its cover had a picture of a bernoulli disc. My dad got it from his work back in the days.

We had a bunch of these back in the day at the printing house I worked for. Magnetic fields were Kryptonite for these beasts (and for any magnetic drives). One of the operators left a disk sitting on top of one of the Mac monitors overnight. It was completely blank by morning.

SCSI uses port assignments similar to the I/O ports. if two SCSI drives are assigned to the same port, it will find the first one it encounters, which is going to be the internal SCSI drive.

a LGR followed by metal jesus video today was a good day. BTW when you use simcity 3000 music it sends chills down my spine

S-video out ! Woooo hoooo ! Used to play Duke Nukem 3D with S-video out on my Trinitron 27" TV ! it was amazing !

The cat lightened up the mood nicely. I demand more cats!

I used one of these in 1995 as external storage for a non-profit company I used to work for. It was connected to a Mac for publishing.

We used the older, larger cartridges to move CAD files from one computer to another before networking was commonplace. We stored them in the same drawers that were once used to store paper drawings. Each cartridge had the drawing numbers it contained written on the label. Ours were 44mb.

Like I always say, love the oddwhare videos!!!!!

We had a bernoulli box 2 when I was younger. The disks held 20mb each. Our hard drive was only 40mb. We were given a stack of disks that failed but were under warranty. We filled out the paperwork to get them replaced and had plenty of space for our games, like space quest, hero's quest, and such.

I actually have one of these! It's a different model, the A220H but I got it from my Grandmother; she knows I love stuff like this (Which is also why I'm subscribing to your channel :3) and left me all the computer stuff she still had. But an interesting fact: The reason she had it in the first place was that the Salt Lake City based PR Firm she worked for in the 80s, Dahlin Smith & White or DSW, held Iomega as a Client well into the 90s until DSW went under. They also had Intel for awhile.

JEEZ! I didn't know they were so many different type of storage devices!

I used to have one of these for a Macintosh back in 93' I think. back then, best thing ever. the Mac was from 92

Someone I know was getting a CT scan today and I saw two of these disks sitting on top of a CD/Bernoulli drive combo thing. This literally after the day I just watched it.

Pretty sweet stuff, I hope you can get a hold of another disk to give it another try, hopefully with success! :)