LGR - RollerCoaster Tycoon World Is Sad [A Review] 

I've had nothing but good experiences talking to the developers myself, both online and in person at PAX. Which just makes the end result here all the more crappy.

It has the stench of publishing issues. It also looks like a lot of placeholder art just never got removed or updated.

The game is $2 on sale.

Bad management will ruin a product in spite of any number of committed developers.

The developers may be nice people but they are a completely unknown indie game developer that doesn't even have a Wikipedia page. I give them credit for attempting a Roller Coaster Tycoon game but clearly they were in way over their heads.

Thanks, I try my best!

Disappointment always stings harder than a beating. You care about videogames, and sometimes it's hard whooping a dear videogame.

yelling things in the microphone/reacting over the top earns good view counts, judging by pewdiepie & co. i guess it's just precalculated

Yeah, I saw a “reviewer” that basically said Cities: Skylines was bad because it was a SimCity clone, and then explained how Cities: Skylines was bad because it wasn’t a SimCity clone. Plus they didn’t state any of the good parts and overly embellished the bad parts.

I agree, but my real reason for giving a thumbs up is the use of "polemics" in a sentence. 👍

General by unknown artist is the best :-D

General music is ok, i guess if you're a little girl or something. Real hardcore fans listen to Human Music

Sci-Fi is the best music

computer music is for rookies, I only listen to binary

Arthas Menethil human music on earth radio

*PlanCo*

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Yeah well my best friend spent full price on it for me at wal mart and I actually feel bad that she spent that much. Terrible game.

@@jimthar17 Did you tell her about Planet Coaster?

I spent 19.99 from a local Walmart

@@DarkstarArchangel thank god for planet coaster

The only way I would ever get this game is if a store clerk pulled a gun on me and demanded I take a copy and even then I wouldn't play it.

Yes the sims needs a proper spiritual successor

Good luck with that. Sims has been around since forever and nobody ever managed to make a franchise that gets even close to it.

That'd be pretty hard, The Sims 3 set the bar for a life sim pretty high (it didn't disappear when Sims 4 was released). It'd take a really talented developer with a decent amount of resources to outdo that game.

Well it would be quite difficult for anyone to come close to the sims, but with the path 4 is going down its a possibility. Not that i'd really care, it seems all these simulation games a never as good now day. Like i still think Roller Coaster Tycoon 3 beats both RCT World and Planet Coaster, but that could just be my nostalgia for it.

I've been wanting this to happen ever since I saw what was happening with Sims 4 (which I still haven't bought). I thought it was a pipedream until Cities Skylines came out and now Planet Coaster. If someone makes a true competitor with the Sims series, that'll be the most joyous day ever.

ikr The only thing missing would be if she was transparent, then she could be a ghost. :P

She's like that because she got the roll in this instead of being a sprite in Parkitect or Planet Coaster

Nea Emrys a sad ghost though....

She sold her soul to the devil.

It's the same with movies these days. The big studios and publishers think they can sell copies, just by name recognition alone!

Greed. That's what happened.

Lina G It's way too late though.

Lina G it's too late in the sense that things which should have been included from the get-go getting introduced over 2 years later is too late.

If I had to guess it's the self-fulfilling prophecy of "non-shooters don't sell". Publishers dismiss them, they get no money or support, they do badly, publishers feel vindicated in brushing them off. Rinse and repeat. I reckon the recent for the "recent" surge was because of a few indie/lower budget hits, that big publishers then tried to replicate but without understanding why they did well.

It's absolutely terrible. I had good luck and, even having bought it long ago when it was Early Access, they returned me the money. The path system it extremely terrible and killed my patience. I'm sorry for the team. I'm pretty sure they didn't have a good time programming this piece of shit. Hope they have better projects in their future career.

Lazy Game Reviews thats hilarious tbh

I think they're lowering it so much just so that people will buy it over Planet Coaster and question why Planet Coaster is more expensive XD Sad when you have to resort to making your price as low as possible just to have one thing to claim you did better at over your competitor lol Gotta feel bad for the devs tho, they sure were handed a mess of a game to try and finish off XD Also feel bad for the 3 previous devs for being thrown off and then have the game still turn out trash anyway

Parkitect's currently 20 bucks as well, but that's an early access game that went for style over fidelity at least when it comes to the park guests and employees. And unlike RCTW, you're also getting some pretty open development compared to this, with weekly devlogs and biweekly to monthly content updates. But yeah, Parkitect IS early alpha, with the last couple of patches adding in scenario support (with custom scenarios ontop of that) and then a research mode (Since the main mode, Sandbox, has no research, CS makers must do it themselves). Of course, there is a severe lack of rides, but, again, Alpha. This does seem like a mish mash of ideas put together without much care or planning put to them. Rides locked to scenarios sounds similar to Zoo Tycoon 2's campaign system, but it mostly adds flavor to your zoos. Also, you still have to research items with a similar system that Planet Coaster uses (Pick an item, funnel money there, and you get your upgrade after a bar runs out. Using this point of familiarity since ZT2 is kinda obscure now). The spline based coaster building brings me back to Sim Theme Park, which also brought me back to how...hard it was to make a decent coaster/log flume there. But yeah, the lack of features, some of which have been around since the first 2 games, is just astounding. And to reiterate what I posted at LGR's twitter, currently there is a 3 way split for the market that's happening: Parkitect aims to please those that liked the first 2 games more and tries to build off of that, but with more on the management side (Now you have to stock the stalls, currently a bit weird but too early to say a good or bad thing). Planet Coaster aims to please those that liked Roller Coaster Tycoon 3 and its expansion, plus aims to give you tools to allow you to make more realistic looking parks vs the older games (would be cool if they got the means to license RL park stuff like in the first 3 RCT games, but we'll see). RCTW seems to only exist for the brand clingers on both sides of the wallet: the diehard fans that reject anything without the RCT name and the executives who decided to put out this game how it was.

Oh those Tweets... It´s kinda sad, really. But the Game is a Failure, and Planet Coaster really seems just to be better in every Way.

Revenger 210 the Atari name has been dragged on for do long it just needs to end

harmon vermeeren yeah, Eden had taken over Atari in the mid-2000s, merging with them and producing, afaik, TDU1 and 2 and the reboot of AITD, but it went bankrupt later on. Then it was picked up again later and the new games that were made was a reboot of Asteroids and the new AITD. I'm surprised RCT was an Atari game, bit in hindsight, that makes sense for why it has come out with so many bugs and had such troubled development

harmon vermeeren yeah, i like atari too, because of v-rally 3, which was the first eden game i played btw, did you know that the eden guys moved away and are working for ubisoft now? the game they made is the crew, it plays very much like tdu2 afaik

harmon vermeeren ah kk, idk that and lol, those physics XD

Yeah ^^ Gear.Club is really good. I do hope some day they make a spiritual successor to TDU, I really miss those games. And poor Atari, once a name that was a staple for the industry. Now it's just that one company whose games people buy either knowing nothing about video games, or just like making fun of them.

True, and his voice is soo good. I watch with audio and subtitle

Planet Coaster was supposed to be called "Coaster Park Tycoon" but they changed the name because the "tycoon" name has a bad rep because of all the shitty "tycoon" games in recent history.

Atari don't actually own the Trademark or the IP, Chris Sawyer still does. They have a license which gives them exclusive rights to create/market new games in the series. It's more like a lease than anything else, they still have to pay out royalties to Chris Sawyer. Personally I feel for Chris because Atari are have obliterated the reputation of RCT in recent years starting with RCT 3D on the Nintendo 3DS in 2012. He's probably made more in royalties from RCT1-3 in the last few years than from any of the recent outings. It's a shame Frontier didn't have the cash on hand to buy up Atari's RCT license/back catalogue back in 2013 when it was being auctioned with a minimum reserve of $3.5m. They had all their money invested in Elite Dangerous back then and the best they could achieve was an agreement to extend their rights to RCT3 which allowed them to self-publish the game on iOS last year. Following the deal Atari reached with Alden (their largest Chapter 11 creditor) earlier this year I expect Atari will continue to limp on using their tactic of hiring unknown developers to produce games that barely resemble the IP they're exploiting. As such I don't think their RCT license/back catalogue will come back on the market. Even if it did the only incentive I can see for Frontier is they could potentially go back and remaster RCT3, taking advantage of multi-threaded CPUs etc. but now Planet Coaster is out it's probably a better option to look entirely forwards and build up Planet Coaster so it eventually has all of the features available in RCT3 Platinum (and more). To be honest I don't think Frontier would be interested any more, the damage to the franchise is so severe it's probably beyond saving at this point.

+Life is DEWG Recently? That's been a thing since RCT 1 became popular.

I don't think Atari will die - they sort of continue to hang in this negative limbo between "we were the legendary game company" and "we can't get our shit together". all the while passing the buck from company to company. There's just enough retro gamers into their stuff, me included, to keep the name alive, but just enough bad against them to cast a dark shadow as long as it's publicized. I always thought the best thing Atari could do is take their existing IP - Make ONE lower production, quality, Flashback type unit per console at most complete with cartridge slot and accurate controllers and keep selling that - and then make ONE new line of products aimed at casual gaming, because that's what made the old Atari games fun - just go pop in Asteroids, play for 15 minutes if you want and have some time to kill, then go about your day.

Daniël's Tech & Music Channel would you just give up if you owned Atari?

As my friend says, that's an underestimate.

Oh I had no idea you were a fan of RCT games, good to see you here.

Darkstar Archangel Absolutely

ProtoMario I assume you've also bought Planet Coaster as well?

Like ur vids

I can't bring myself to blame Nvizzio for this. They were developing both this and a mobile version (RollerCoaster Tycoon Touch), which explains why this game is so buggy, and I can't see them wanting to deliberately fuck over the gamers. If anything, I'd have to blame Atari, they did the same scummy shit before and fucked over certain devs (particularly Reflections, who now work at UbiSoft, which isn't the best either but so much better than Atari) and they've tarnished the RCT name, with RCT3D and RCT4 Mobile (yes, they tried a mobile RCT game).

Sounds like a hefty chunk of the video game industry, and gamers these days enjoy crapping where they eat.

Guuki yes planet coaster is a lot like city skylines with it being better than "Simcity" (the newest one that is) and at a more affordable price.

BloodySeaGulls i am seeing trend of old titles being a downgrade and instead newcomers take over the genre. Interesting, right?

Guuki Same Here!

better judged by 12 than carried by six. I'm gonna be honest while i've loved other iso games rct1 and 2 just bore me

better judged by 12 than carried by six. Planet coaster is an amazing game tf you talking about

Meh its good but RCT 1 and 2 are the real ogs.

Ttrucker he was saying that cities skylines is actually good btw

Give me SC4 but with modern quality of life improvements over CS any day. While I do like CS, it just isn't charming at all. Spend so much time catering to the particular and single minded traffic AI engine that you feel more like a traffic manager than a mayor. In SC4, all your hard work shone like a diamond. Once you've customized your cities per your artistic vision and incentivized nonstop growth via city-to-city connections, your reward is the regional view, where your multi city regional mega hub revealed itself, and you see your multi million population blossoming under your management, and you think "damn, I made this". That's what an emperor must have felt like. CS simply can't hope to achieve any of that.

JapanForSale agreed. I spent many more hours on sc4. It deserves a reboot.

I would play Skylines and Planet Coaster if they actually ran smoothly and didnt crash

What a weird analogy. And it makes perfect sense...

Thank you!

Thanks for not thinking I'm lame!

Cities Skylines was fine... They are coming in - not as fast as back in the days and absolutely not the same franchises, as those are really dying (Sim City, Rollercoaster Tycoon, The Sims (the newest wasn't that baaaad, but it wasn't good either... however, we'll see what happens next)... I really think we should wait and see... The problem is probably that most money isn't made with simulations... So they cut back on development cost and time... And then they wonder why even less people buy the buggy and unfinished games... It's kind of a cycle...

A specific series dying doesn't mean simulation games are dying off. Which they are not.

@@Animize The Sims 5 is likely going to be that. The Sims 4 isn't _bad_ per se, just lacking in content and with a few bugs here and there. It's not fundamentally broken.

Developers are getting lazy.

I think it's a bit like adventure games dieing off. The market is changing. I think it's more of a casual vs hardcore..... Simulators seem to be going to casual. Any game with touch screen controls is almost without fault going to be geared to a casual market. It means all of us old school hard core sim folks will be left high and dry unless we want to play generic 3rd party restaurant simulator 37. Spoiler..... We dont

Maybe it doesn't have the name, but it's still a spiritual successor to RCT3 due to it having been made by the same people. It's way more of a successor than RCTW anyway.

Just like a game that isn't Sim City is a better Sim City than Sim City 5...

The thing is that Planect Coaster is actually RCT4. It has so many similarities. Also because they have the same developer.

The shame is that many games that have created a franchise have to go independent when corporate strikes in

Pretty much, Electronic. Probably because of the nature of how video game development happens. From what I've seen in board games, games CAN jump from publisher to publisher depending on how the designer feels on how said publisher is doing their jobs, mainly because of the more independent nature of design and development. Though, it is a huge case of Apples to Oranges, so, yeah

Or look into Planet Coaster

I wish I could play PC but their requirement... gee, not casual gaming at all. There's Parkitect thought!

Just play RCT3 Platinum on steam, it's awesome and has way more content then Planet Coaster.

Parkitect is fun, I got it before it even came out on steam. In my opinion it's pretty shallow but I am not much of a theme park gamer.

@Stashmaniac By content you mean # of rides and Coaster Types right?

Essentially......

Yeah, meaningless lines in the sand. I know them well. - Eddy

Managers and stockholders

Great choice!

Even if mine is RCT1/2 I really liked Theme Park World. It was different. Not worse. Just different.

I still love the very first Theme Park from Bullfrog the most. :)

Ah, I remember that game as well, I used to play it all the time. I'm wondering when a spiritual successor of it will come out, if ever. Then again, RCTW is already a bit like Theme Park World with the fixed themes, fixed entrances and exits, etc...

I miss that annoying little scottish ant.

Thanks, glad to hear it! And yeah, things are going very well.

IKR! Frontier all the way! They know how it works since the very beginning. Not this Nvxzzz developer (?) who had no idea what they're doing... (they don't even have a wiki page, by the way)

Worst case scenario: Atari worked together with frontier to sabotage Planet Coaster

@@awildfurret We don't need the modern version of Atari near anything. This company that bought the name pretty much ruins, cuts corners, and just plain cheapens every damn thing that they get their greasy little hands on. They aren't at all the Atari of yesteryear. Modern Atari is some other cheap, crap, knockoff producing, mobile game making, company that bought the name to slap on their crap products.

@@BlackburnBigdragon Just looked at their website- says everything. 'Atari is known as a globally recognized brand' 'We own and/or manage more than 200 games and franchises including world-renowned brands' It gets better 'Atari Games is the DNA of the Atari Group, exploiting more than 200 video games.This also includes Atari Casino.... ' Yep, you read right, EXPLOITING, any more proof of mindset needed? They've got their eyes on cryptocurrency- including in relation to video games- too. Is it just me thinking hmm, greed over love of the games they make maybe? If they can't even get what their 'about' says about them right....

Planet Zoo is in progress now, I wonder...

Planet zoo has you covered

ikr. anytime a legitamte game developer/publisher who says stuff like "mobile gaming is the future bc we can make more money off of microtransactions" it just seems so sketchy... maybe this wasn't related to your comment but i just had to get it out somewhere lmao :/

I just found about an interesting article an game developer talk about mobile gaming. Truth is spend more on marketing rather than develop a better game would likely have better chance to "success". Not surprise hardcore player like LGR would feel the game not good at all.

VieneLea The best thing about LGR is that he only talks about things that really interest him. He fits into a niche that often gets ignored, sim and tycoon games.

Kaitlyn Rauch Both the niche and the quality of his content are amazing! I'm so glad there's a youtuber like this!

VieneLea He really does have amazing quality. I never feel like I need to look at multiple reviews when Clint reviews a game.

Thanks for the kind words!

Yeeep.

Yuup

Mm-hmm

I'd have to get planet coaster cuz No Limits 2 is way too advanced for me.

@@MrCow579 Only if the PBP system has curves and something other than STRAIGHT pieces. That was always one thing I hated about the games is the pathways were always straight and "square".

Thats it man!

Glad you enjoyed! And I was using a Blue Snowball for this review.

Lavaduder staggering right? He must have just a golden voice :p

Aren't you glad you got that PREORDER BONUS though??

You're not alone friend, i'm just glad Planet Coaster was there to save the 3D looking theme park simulator

I've only pre-ordered franchises, and I waited many years for this. I couldn't wait to get my hands on it. Just goes to show

I hope you can get a refund.

+NexusHUB hope you can get a refund as it's a shi# game made by people that don't give a toss.

Yeah, but at least their customer support shows how much they hate humanity.............

Oh they have. "Atari" has gone bankrupt, but to my knowledge, they've been passed around so many times that they're basically a different company.

The Atari that made decent stuff died in the early 90's. It's has been nothing but a meaningless name for many years now.

Add Sims 4 to it too but we don't have any competitor for that.

Yea. People do mention Second Life when I ask for an alternative to Sims, but... why? Second Life isn't even simulation!

This, easily. Especially since SimCity 2013 was fixed up a fair bit after launch.

I downloaded a random map from the Steam Workshop to show off, and I guess it was from someone German!

Oh haha that makes more sense, good video still!!!

Yep!

Lazy Game Reviews Nice! Thanks for reply

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Well Planet Coaster is your dream come true. RCT3 but modernised with updated graphics in comparison to RCT3. Highly suggest you look into it!

Fun fact, I played that game and it crashes every 5 minutes. Also the controls are garbage and it relies too much on your customization.

Go to Planet Coaster. It's like RCT3 with serious steroids on. Amazing graphics for a tycoon game, from the same developer of RCT3, you can build all the fuck you want. Watch some video

panda hero planet coaster?

Planet Coaster will save you, that game is polished and made by the same people who did RCT3 Platinum.

I've heard from a few people where that's been happening, no idea why. But I haven't noticed any abnormal subscriber drops, numerically speaking, so it's just strange!

Lazy Game Reviews Merkmusic made the video the other day explaining why this is happening. It's RU-vid's fault.

They were busy making a mobile game instead of working on this.

Don't forget Rokh, they've also been working on their next Early Access game for the entirety of RCTW's Early Access.

Sim city 4 has an awesome modding community, all tho dying slowly due to age.

Even more conclusive proof that gaming died in 2011

Not until it leaves early access.

Awesome!