LGR - The Sims 4: Two Years of Meh 

Yeah, unless you wanna buy three new games worth of DLC's

@@minedantaken1684 even with the dlc, it's still pretty meh

September 2020: 6 years of meh and a literal rebellion with Journey to Batuu, which I'm still waiting for Clint to evicerate. When a pack makes Into The Future look good, you've really messed up.

@@nolan1915 I agree. I'm not defending Journey to Batuu, just bringing up the fact that I haven't seen a backlash this bad since Katy Perry Sweet Treats.

@@guguy00 he said he wouldn't review it because he would just be repeating himself😅

Yes

YES YES YES

Don't forget the occasional meteor shower (Ambitions). Just walking mah dog and suddenly "The Sky's growing dark.."

Naruku2121 I actually haven't had that happen yet, and I play this game enough! I dread the day... :D But still, it's been a good few years and I still haven't done everything there is to do! That's a sign of a good game!

***** Yeah I'm still having fun with 3 mostly because I got a better PC than what I started, and I'm learning how to improve it so a lot of log issues is going away if I keep making it better.

Sims 3 vs Sims 4 perfectly summed up in one paragraph. Are you thinking of getting Paralives??

YES EXACTLY. that’s why most of the time i just give my sims the same “music lover, bookworm, art lover” traits cuz i’m tired of giving them traits that just make them tense

In sims 4 you can easily g set bored because, 1. About 60% of a world like city living, you can’t explore. 2. The “personalities” that the sims have are not realistic and only make the sims even more tense. 3. Tbh the sims 4 seasons is the best pack because there is *a lot* of depth and it really looks like they spent time on this pack. 4. The jobs, you can’t even go to where the jobs are. There are only a few that you can actually play live. 5. Same with school Basically, once EA realizes that these problems that the game has are relevant then the game will be much better but I don’t see that happening unless they open their eyes.

•_Moon Mango_• how do you get bored from point number 3?

Basically they just made it so your sim can have anxiety, instead of a personality trait.

The sims 4: Infinite years of meh

At this rate I don't want to know what The Sims 5 has in store for us

@@Black_Ghost98 You'll get A sim. family slots are $15 "kit" packs

@@Black_Ghost98 "you'll have nothing and you'll be happy" :P

Haha, that's not far off

I might try and ask EA to cease sales of TS4.

Yeah right? "Maybe it's not you, It's me. I think I have changed..No, you have changed and I don't like you as much as I did."

Am i the only who prefers the graphics in sims 3? Sims 4 looks way childish and cartoonish.

Oo K I'm still with the Sims 3 😊

All my families seem the same and it is really hard to loose yourself in the game for more than an hour.

Martin Gulbrandsen yea. At first I was angry with the graphics because ts3 looked literally human. In ts4 your sims look like cartoons. However I do like how the lighting effects the furniture and makes it look 3D and modern in a way. I just wish that they would make it an open world like ts3 cuz it was fun watching my sims roll out into town in their little cars and I have to admit ts3 could have been better in ways too like better clothing furniture and hair styles and that when you had toddlers and babies and only had one adult in the car to drive but couldn't cuz they had to hold the babies so they had to take a taxi also you could also hold one baby in the taxi. I wish there were car seats and that you could hold 2 babies at once. I also hate how the game would lag and run suuuuuppppper slow. It's annoying cuz there's so much to do in s3 but the game just doesn't work well enough for that. I wish toddlers were added to s4 they would be so adorable and I love how the babies look in the sims 4 instead of looking like a burrito.i like how children can interact with the babies in s4 and how they can get jealous of the new baby, I like that feature cuz I think every older sibling can relate to that. And I like how when you give them bottles and change their diapers you can actually see the object in the hand but I just hate how the baby is bed bound it can't be taken around the house it's only taken out of the crib just for a 5 sec interaction.

Sounds just like real life.

DemBagels toddlers are in the game now

Martin Gulbrandsen no open world,no driveable car,and etc

Having played both, you're right! For me both are fun.

It's actually funny that "Dollhouse" was a codename for The Sims

that’s not how I played dollhouse. It was less S4 and more Wicked Whims but okay

Yeah, the game's too easy to manipulate. I always hated how it's a "life" simulator but it's easy as hell.

@@lilybraden3957 current year trashing out don't care add to other

If that happened in The Sims, The Sims 2 or The Sims 3, there would have been a big fight!

Oh that drives me mad. A) They don’t cheat unless I direct them to. In previous games, Sims would flirt autonomously and I would be surprised by their actions. B) When they do cheat, their partner just stands there with a ‘Sad’ moodlet and a very slight decrease in relationship. No anger? No fight? No heartbreak? Really? In previous games there would have been a massive bust up! It’s ridiculous.

and a memory

@@melodyseverything6999 and a break up, and sims neverending gossiping about the cheater

@@felmargego2534 and your reputation would be tanked so folks could even heckle you on the street

omg u are on to something!!

that's what sims 5 should be like!!

I'm sure there are some mods that can add in certain things from the sims 2 into 3, and the graphics are barely any better in the sims 4, other than having a smoother aesthetic and looking a bit cartoonier, so I'm sure there are texture mods that can help you there.....

I want rabbit holes, so long as you also have the option to go into the majority of them. Actually having to follow your sim to work all the time would make the game too linear, and I also want to be able to have professions like in Sims 3 that mostly take place outside in the town rather than in one static location.

No one Nowhere I mean you'd be able to see them but work would be automated, so you could follow them if you wanted to, but it wouldn't be necessary, sorta.

Lmao best comment ever

The Atomic Cherry true

Lmao, theres a lot of shit in it. Also, ever heard of mods?

Noodle, The Sims 3 still has a lot more shit in it base game vs. base game, expansions vs. expansions. Sims 3 had mod support too, this isn't something you should judge a game with because this comes from its player base and not from EA.

Kostas123GR2 jesus, I mean I already prefer sims 3 over sims 4, but I play sims 4 on an HP notebook and with alot of the settings on low, before you go say "YEAH BUT ALL THE SETTINGS ARE ON LOW!" well, the only packs that I don't own are toddlers, fitness pack, and jungle adventure and yet I even have the Sim quality on medium :/ and it still runs smoothly.

I literally just spent 4 hours on Sims building and creating the family, I didn't even play it 😭

I enjoy CAS and building too, the gameplay bores me too fast

There is a simmer (forgot her name) that play with story/plot she made, like Cinderella who struggle living her life while dealing with her younger brother and her evil sister and so on.. but the way she played the plot it's like she need to micromanaging every step/every interaction so it could reach the goal of the story, and not letting the Sims itself working by their traits, the story is fun but she need to micromanaging everything that is very noticeable and kinda meh, just like a doll house xDD.. I'm watching from her short video btw there is a few part of em

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+Une pomme de terre mignon I like your username, cool dead language

SpikyKitten merde

a Robbaz post in an LGR video? Goodness gracious!

i love your videos 😍

Wait, there's no building cheats? No constrainfloorelevation? No terraforming? Are you kidding me?! That's ridiculous...we already lost CAS.

No man, there's none of that. I love building in The Sims, I do that even more than I play the simulation at all, and without terraforming, constrainfloorelevation, texture editing and all of the great features they had since The Sims 2, or even The Sims 1 (even that had the terraforming tool) all of the builds in TS4 look really similar, there is currently no way of making a truly unique build, it's just ridiculous. And the tools that they introduced are messy and glitchy as fuck. I still enjoy Sims 3 way more than Sims 4, and I don't see that changing in the future.. I can only hope that Sims 5 will fix all of that and bring back that magic and fun of the series, from simulation to building!

Bruno G. Lopes That's insane! I'm the same way, I'll spend hours a day making houses I've seen in real life or in my head. Love all the customization. I'll actually play the life simulation part for maybe an hour in the house I worked so hard on. I've just now started using the constrainfloor cheat and currently screw it up everytime, but I'm learning and I like that such powerful cheats are available, even if it takes practice. What a disappointment, I guess I'll cross my fingers for TS5.

Yes man! Fingers crossed here too! My advice is for you to stick to Sims 3, I regret every single cent I've spent with TS4!

Bruno G. Lopes I'm downloading the free 48 hour trial, I almost bought it but looked on here and decided to try it first. Wish you could get your money back though!

Murphy beds are from TS2 but it was rare to die using them

EA, 2020: we are tired of doing the Sims, knowing they have started hating,let's make eco living, the one they will hate the most and let's release it in the same time as paralives trailer

Hexy Ko they were in sims 3 as well

@@damn754 Eco Living? Nah. Batuu.

@@damn754 batuu just passed eco living

Are you thinking of getting Paralives whenever it’s released?

ID FK mmmmm idk. I need more info on the gameplay

Ivana Taylor Ok Yh fair enough

Update: seven years later... the same is true

The Wedding DLC got released a while ago and oh boy oh boy.

sims 3 rules with an SSD and running NRaaS.

Sims 1 = Great Sims 2 = also Great Sims 3 = glitchy, ive never got this one to work right on any of my pcs over the years Sims 4 = i haven't played it and don't really want to to be honest, ill stick with 1 and 2

@@majamystic256 Just make sure you run the Sims 3 NraaS mods: www.nraas.net/community/Mods-List

@@rixxy9204 A game that requires fucking mods just to run is broken. Sims 2 was and still is the best.

@@petervenkman9838 It doesn't require it but it is great to use.

L Arcturus true

the npc's have personality now. it shows in their outfits.

+Harvey I hope you are just being sarcastic.

DoomDesire666 my first neighbor was a single lady. she was freaking off at least every other day. my other neighbor got evicted and lived in the hallway. he would sneek in while I was at work. id come home have a fist fight with him and kick him out, before I learned how to lock the doors one day the girl asked could she use my shower , because hers was broke. I tried to seduce her, and only got a kiss before she left, about 3 hours later she was back at her house having sex again. the guy who got evicted, wound up dying in the hallway, and for some reason they gave me his urn. of course he haunted me after that. this was in my first apartment..

Harvey In the flesh lol I’m lost

Are you thinking of getting Paralives whenever it’s released??

@@GG-xcx9z I am...sims isn't the same for me 😢 all the great stuff they took out feels so empty now. Even if they added new things and the expansions are so expensive even though alot of the expansions should be included in the base game like parenthood or seasons or the get together 🥲. If there's a nother expense with the new sims 5 with the changes EA is making, I'm most likely not purchasing sims 5. The entire game is already costly as it is and not even worth the cost because of bugs, lacking soul, and again should have been in the base game 🙄. I'm looking forward to seeing what paralives brings. Love sims since the very beginning it's just been disappointing fr for the last several years 😕

@@mavietresbelle1310 soooo true I feel you so much that’s why I only play TS3 now

@@mavietresbelle1310 and Yh I’d rather wait for Paralives than sims 5

2020 updates: 6 years of meh!

Testify brother! - Andy

the only improvement sims 4 made to the series is the camera, after playing the sims 4 its hard to go back to using the sims 3 camera

2021 update: 7 years of meh!

I %100 agree.

+CherryPie 100%*

More like a pale, watered down imitation of The Sims 2 by people who didn't understand the game. It wouldn't surprise me if there was a lot of executive meddling from EA (as a result SC 2013 bellyflopping, partly because of executive meddling) and too much reliance on focus groups

Sims 2,3 are the best of the series

Its more like a modern Sims 1 without some of the fun stuff of the Sims 1. It has elements of both sims 2 and 3 but I think its more like Sims 1.

Predictability's the mother of boredom.

Exactly, too much control is just bleh

Wouldn't say it's a simulation of real life, but more whacky and sitcomy. But yes unpredictability is the source of tension and drama. But i guess EA sees the franchise as a wish fulfillment game these days, on account of the economy and shits

I felt like the game play was slower. Too much time micromanaging and watching mundane tasks compared to sims 2.

@Sky Dome I find Sims 3 the best balance. If the needs are critical the sim just deals with it, but the game isn't as bland as Sims 4... just walk around town and things happen, like a neighbor having a party. If you have Late Night EP you can just go to dance club and rock all night until the sun comes up. The game fking rules.

Yeah. 2019, re-bought sims 3 recently, after messing about with the sims 4, and honestly sims 3 is the better game. I kept getting bored in 4, but not in 3.

Cute Dark Arts I begged my parents for it so I got a laptop for sims 3 and got all the expansions and the cc

Cute Dark Arts Sims 3 is on sales now, and I’m wondering if it crashes a lot while using it?

@@Isabel-dm1gy I got it a few days ago and have put about 40 hours into it with no crashing.

@@XLynnsanityX I ended up buying it. It runs perfect! Thank you

Same same same ..im so disapointed with the sims 4 . I NEVER bored this game and now with sims 4 i dont find something interesting about it 😥 so sad cz im addicted to sims and i dont want to give up...

Hopefully if they make a Sims 5, it will be an open-world game, because I can't stand not having that.

hatsuharu333 I got the 24 hours playing reward 2 years after they launched the game, dissapointing

hatsuharu333 I love the sims 3 but it's so laggy on my laptop I can't play it anymore. :(

Going from open world to dinky limited areas was like going from a water park to a puddle. Picking the puddle only makes sense if you're the most easily amused toddler on the planet.

I agree. Little things like being a technophobe or never nude goes a long way on making Sims more unique. Bring back Hydrophobia. Bring back Absent-mindedness. Or clumsiness. Or cowardness. Or basically the whole Trait system of Sims 3. Because most of Sims 4 "traits" are just emotion-changers and moodlet poppers 🙄.

@@kiillabytez It also feels less like a life simulation because it's easy as balls and it feels like nothing has consequences.

i dont know if this is an option for you, but i got the whole sims 3 set on ebay. idk if what they do is even legal, but i buy the origin codes off ebay for like, not even a 3rd of the price. the highest rated ones are usually more expensive, but i got the base game and pets together for less than £20, and i recall buying showtime for £3. its soooo much cheaper than spending £200+ on the full set, and it doesnt really matter now since sims 4 is out so not many people actually go out and buy sims 3 anymore :)

TheNellehFox I bought all but one expansion pack from g2a.com There were some that only cost a little over a dollar and the most expensive one I bought was six dollars. Not sure what the prices are now because they change depending on who's selling them but they were all EXTREMELY cheap on there.

There is a way to get the lot stupid cheap. There a website called G2A you can get the packs for really low prices, most packs range from £3 to £5.

Takehaya Susanoo You're about two months too late with that info m8.

Cracks can save your lifeee~~ I play the game with crack because dollar is so expensive here.I-I don't even want to talk about euro..Oh god. But I bought Generations,Seasons and University Life soooo... I did a very kind thing to EA since they suck.

Thats more a problem with the entire series though, the expansions have always been expensive.

its just expansive

@@ryan-wn1qu Eh, not quite. Go back to Sims 2 and 3 and you'll see some things were part of the base game. Sims 4 just chops up each pack from sims 2 and 3 and sells each part and content it into several different expansions. So technically we're paying more with the sims 4 than the previous series just to get the same content from previous games

What kinds of possibilities were there that were different from Sims 4? When I watch playthroughs of Sims 3 it looks like the same game.

@@willp.484 For one, sims 3 has more life to it. With story progression, sims you're not even controlling can get married, have kids, move to a new house or a new neighborhood. Sims 3 traits give your sims *actual* personality. In sims 4, traits are kind of pointless. A non-committal sim in sims 4 can still get married. Meanwhile, in sims 3, it takes actual work to get a non-committal sim to fall in love with you. Earning money in sims 3 is actual work. Relationships decay in sims 3, so keeping with relationships also takes work. When a sim cheats on their spouse in sims 3 (and sims 2 for that matter) sims actually react. Cheating felt like it had actual consequences in past sim games. In sims 4, a sim is upset about cheating for 24hrs, and then they're over it. Cheating in sims 3 gave your sim a cheating reputation, which made it hard for your sims to get into a new relationship. Sims 3 sims started actual rumors of things that actually happened (you'll get a pop up like "did you hear Don cheated and got another woman pregnant?") these rumors had an actual impact on your sims reputation. It also made everything in the world feel more alive. Breaking up a family in Sims 3 was actually hard. It took me *days* to get a married sim to leave their spouse. Sims 4 sims flirt with everyone, no problem, even if they're married. I want hooking up with a married sim or a sim in a relationship to be a challenge. Expansion packs actually expanded the game, rather than add superficial things you'll get bored with in a day. Sims 3 Generations alone added so much into the game: prom for teens, the daycare career, treehouses. I couldn't even list them all if I tried because there's so much. It makes Parenthood feel so empty in comparison. Hell, base game sims 3 had over 60+ traits. By the time sims 3 ended, it had over 90 traits. Sims 4 only has over 30. In 6 years. Sims 3 sims felt alive. Sims 4 sims feel like robots. Nothing bad ever happens to you in sims 4. No burglars, no meteors that fall from the sky and kill your sims. In sims 3, a sim in the criminal career could actually get arrested. That was funny as hell. Spontaneous events never happen in the sims 4 unless you *make* it happen, which gets so boring after a while. Fires don't even feel as deadly anymore. It's all too easy.

Exactly, the Sims 3 felt alive and organic in a way the Sims 4 never did. It was rewarding to pursue most of the skills, careers, relationships in the game. Traveling felt like an actual break from the everyday, exploring also had a sort of magic to it. Collecting things felt like something to properly take pride in, and there were so many fun ways to mix it up when one play style started to feel dull. Live mode was actually fun, build mode and CAS were laggy as hell but they had some of the best customization of any game in the genre. So much freedom to be had with the textures and color wheel. The sims themselves never suffered from the same-y-ness I found when I tried the Sims 4. They all felt like individuals and I liked watching their lives play out. I admittedly never much messed with the stuff packs after seeing in the Sims 2 that they only added style things, because there was already an abundance of custom content I could add that was (im my opinion) more satisfying. But the Sims 3 expansion packs almost always made the game feel layers on layers richer. I remember being so excited each time a new one came out and nothing to this day has managed to replicate that feeling. I grew up with the franchise, and I've played darn near every title they released under the Sims branding (including console titles). Loved the Sims 2, played both that and the original Sims as a kid. Really these games have been like family to me. That's why it's kinda hard to look at now. Nothing has disappointed me more than the Sims 4. Unfortunately with the way it stands even in 2021, it looks unlikely they'll surpass their peak with the Sims 3 anytime soon. Also if you read all that I'm gonna drop (what I believe to be) an unpopular opinion: The Sims Medieval wasn't the game most of us wanted but it was a pretty decent game in it's own right. (Edited for a couple of typos)

That's because Sims 4 was turned into a Fantasy Land where almost nothing bad happens. Everything is just stagnant and boring.

Also, firefighters don't exist. You have to buy sprinkler systems instead and put the fires out yourself. Mhmm.

So true!! I remember playing the sims 3 and always getting robbed!! Sigh the good ole days

+Cameron Johnson Yes and even death is made out to be funny, dying of laughter for example, but you cannot for of grief. There is nothing realistic about the Sims 4 whatsoever.

Bernhardina Hörnstein wow!! That's such a good point u made. I never even thought of that. Maxis has really lost their touch when it comes to what the players want for the sims. It's like they don't care. They just give us the same random shit, overcharge for it and then just expect us to be happy with it and to keep buying or, as they put it, "If we don't make x-amount of money, there WONT be a sims 5". Like what company basically threatens their player base like that. Smh

i think this as well

Same👍🏻

seriously your not the only one. there are tons of people who think sims 4 should have been better.

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Same here

Well.....

Here you get a hottub you could already make! Oh you wanted us to fix the sims 3? Give sims 2 better graphics? Nope, sorry hottub it is.

Again, meh... a hottub...

Oh honey.... have you seen eco lifestyle yet? Cute island living re-skin EA!!!

@@xXkatiegoesRaWrXx Island living gives you solar panels?

*glares at Andrew Arcade*

Because their getting paid and they get early access to the new stuff packs and expansion packs.

They are paid for it now it's even harder yo get in on than when this video is up simmers who have said blank is a bit lacking who aren't veterans of the kiss up to ea game. They loose all opportunities if even one complaint

Asuna Gumdrop because some people might actually enjoy the game.

RT gaming doesn't like it he made 1 video complaining and only plays Sims 3

Ellie B. Well said

I like the risk in TS2. You go to work, a chance card appears and then BAM, you're fired.

"if I wanted a dollhouse I'd get one." So much TRUTH!! You guys are likely waaay too young to recall but it is like The Sims was "Times Square'd." .. Back in my youth, Times Square in NYC was a hell hole of nasty .. these days it is clean, safe and boring as hell. Disney-fied, if you will. Well Sims 4 "disney-fied" the Sims franchise and I hate it. It is the old sims games for me or nothing. But .. as I explained previously, I will buy it on the off chance EA pulls its head out of its butt in the next version. (*insert "Dreamer" by Supertramp here*) Ya .. I know .. I am an idiot. ; )

Wil Moore Too young and also in a completely different country, but yes, I get you entirely. Personally, these days I only boot up ts4 if I want to play around in build mode for a little while.

I love the sims 3 way more than sims 4, but I got into sims 3 right after into the future was released. Sims 4 released, and by then, I had a lot of hours in sims 3. I picked up sims 4 and it was just... boring. Nothing happened, my attention kept waning and waning until it was just gone. I kept telling myself that "the next expansion will make it better", but it never did. I'm done with sims 4 until right before 5 is released, at which time, I will go on a shopping spree for all the expansions and game packs, and if it still sucks, I will not expect any better from sims 5.

I bout the game for £8, 75% off and I still regret it😭

Even moreso

Which ones?

I assumed you mean RU-vidr simmers 😳

+Lottie S I wish, they're all partnered with EA/have been recognised by EA to some degree so they'll just agree with whatever the developers say. I thought deligracy would understand cause she really loved create a style like me but she just goes along with it now :c only LGR isn't part of the hive mind

Lifesimmer for one. But even others are slightly falling off or going over to ther things like Vixella and other people who all specialized in sims but now are doing other things.

+Lottie S reminds me of lifesimmer :(

We. all should write them about that.. Please just remaster the Sims 3 and we'll be happy

Hell if they gave it the release price of the sims plus a bit more for expansions or maybe more easily done a “graphics expansion” that covered the general cost of redoing all the graphics to be more modern it would be so much more successful than the sims 4

Combine some aspects of sims 3 with some aspects of sims 4 (graphics, vampires, supernatural stuff in general) and you’ve got an amazing game

@Kieran W wait I thought they werent making a sims 5

They're updating the Mac version of Sims 3 which should make it more stable with extra expansions so I think that'll be the ultimate game to play

Let alone story progression. There aren't even relationships between pre-made households. :(

@@ilhambudi95 yeah,basically no one knows each other other than the ones in the household,like,even the ones who are said to be fimiliar with each other through that useless family describtion,it's just there

Lia Valencia does feel that way

Reignited Light exactly my problem. I create so many Sims but then don't even play them, and when I do, I almost force myself to

It hurts so much to see all of these great improvements in The Sims 4 but have it still ultimately be a lackluster experience compared to The Sims 3. The moodlets, multi-tasking, create a Sim, and building are so good, but the fact that The Sims 4 takes steps back in almost every other aspect just ruins it.

@@sharoosh8723 exactly how i feel, livemode feels so boring that playing it feels forced

this comment right here

Sharon Wuttke exactly

And here comes Paralives 🤣

@@mochijennie2590 They need a big studio or bigger indi studio to give them real competition. A lot of people care about graphics. Lot's of people would play the sims 3 instead of 4 if it had 4's graphics, but stay with that even though it's a worse game. And Paralives loses in that regard. By the way I hate this trend were they make everything cartoonish and bright in recent years.

Paralives is coming! I am excited for it. It's looking promising and there is communication with the devs. which makes me like it even more.

Not to mention some content that we enjoyed was taken away

Exactly! I played Sims 2 & Sims 3 for years. But I won't spend my money on Sims 4. It's not worth the amount of money! You spend hundreds of dollar for all packs & dlcs & get nothing special for it..

Exactly! They're making us feel guilty so that we buy their garbage, but maybe if they listened to us and produced something that isn't complete and utter shit we WOULD!

UnknownPenguin no it isn't. since you eat for hours with your sim, when you're multitasking.

Holding our beloved series hostage. This may be the end for sims, but have hope. There is another simmer out there who is ready to make a clone. A sims clone with all we ever dreamed of.

He's pretty much the only simmer on youtube I'm subscribed to, and trust enough to always go back to. He's always gonna be honest, he doesn't exaggerate his thoughts or gameplay for show, what you see is what you get.

Having not touched this franchise since The Sims 2 Deluxe Edition on PC was new until The Sims 4 PS4 during the COVID-19 era, and now going through the rest of his DLC videos to determine which packs are worth getting piecemeal when they go on sale, I have to appreciate his resigned attitude towards this iteration. His opinions towards what I am NOW sensing is the most feature-dry numbered entry is nuanced, forgoing "journalistic balanced" in favor of just a simple, honest and strictly personal assessment and personal assertiveness. I can't appreciate the near-obligatory dick measuring attitude that seems to go with people saying The Sims 2/3 was better, which seems to plague EVERYTHING with an opinion online in the 21st century. I'm very sympathetic to their gripes (because EA can't be trusted, and franchise rot is definitely a thing), but not to the attitude with which they express them. I'm loving my PS4 experience so far, but it's not like I don't think whatever gripes he has with The Sims 4 isn't valid because I'm having a good time. I want to think of myself as a person of nuance, so I deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeefinitely see where and why everyone has little to no respect for this entry into the franchise, as there are definitely moments where my brain has picked up on the bullshit as well. I'm with everyone in hoping that, if The Sims 5 becomes a definitive thing with the next generation of video game tech rolling around, EA allows Maxis to be Maxis, and not just another EA studio. But until then... It's fine. It's just fine. Not great. Not terrible. Just... ehh.

It’s 2024 now!

@@MooseShower ur right, now it will already be 10 years 🤯

Okay parrot.

comparing apples (S3 with many expansion packs) to oranges (S4 base game)

+xfusee 1.) both are fruits and fruits are inherently comparable 2.) the sims are both apples as they are trying to achieve the same gameplay, so you very much can compare and contrast.

+TheHolyFox123 No, the correct way back then would be comparing the sims 3 base game (No expansions) with the sims 4 base game.

if she was playing base game that wouldn't give others the excuse of saying expansions so let me say I reinstalled my copy of base sims 3 after trying sims 4 (2 generations of two different families) and I felt like I got more out of 3 with exploring, parties, making friends, stealing stuff, creating and playing the sims. Really all that sims 4 has to offer is a better house building.

Basic Sims 3 with no expansions was still more fun than Sims 4. I know. I played it with no expansions for years, and to this day I still only use Late Night and Ambitions.

fr

2023: *Still* 9 years of meh

name 2 more things ts4 lacks.

open world, vehicles...

TheFodFairy I dont see how the open world or vehicles have much of an impact on the game besides cosmetics, im talking about substance, like pools, which are in the game now, camping, which is in the game now, ghosts, which are in the game now. And all those other things that are new, like the lack of rabbit holes, you can go in any building nothing is a rabbit hole anymore, even a good amount of the jobs are no longer rabbit holes with the expansion., But that is just my opinion.

Well we'll agree to disagree then because TS4 just doesn't cut it for me in terms of what I want in a Sims game.

+TheProgrammer. Burglars, butlers, boarders, zombies. Paparazzi, the daily newspaper and mail delivery. Spiral staircases. The Fair and the eating contest and all the booths. More traits and Sim interactions. The way you sometimes had to put your butler in his place when he often started taking over care of the baby. There's a lot more.

It's 2019 now, so now it's been "three more years of meh".

c0rrupti0ns I finally just bought it because it was on sale on origin for $5.13. Totally worth the $5. No way in the world was it worth $60 for the base game considering it didn’t have pools or toddlers when it launched.

Anon Ymous I got it for free on Origin last week ...

@@missliss2581able - I got it for free at Origin too. EA just got desperate!

(1 year later) *WE HAVE L SHAPED, U SHAPED AND CONFIGURABLE STAIRS NOW*

I have requested that as well :)

this would be amazing... Like just knowing that ANYONE you see on the street you could start a relationship with...sick man. A game like that will totally happen in the future though, games will just get better and better aaaand better :)

have you not played sims 3??

Agreed!

I honestly agree with this, this is something I want. that and maybe a first person sims game.

Thank you!

Turquoise Cheetah why does she need an excuse to not play games that she just doesn’t want to play??

apenguinnamedabraham she has a dick?🤤

Top Hat Cat Wow... You just exploded to a whole new dimension

yeah I regret getting the Sims 4. Sims 3 in way better!

Hopefully all of the hate they're getting means they will put a ton of work into the sims 5 and make it top the sims 3

I'm trying to hope for that too but sadly Ea likes to dissapoint D: ,maybe we could riot?

I wouldnt say 50-60 hours worth of enjoyable gameplay is bad compared to what you get in today's games

Nastja Klemenc Mods aren't gone

Indeed. Been playing the series since 2000.

I started on Sims 4 because it was new. I wanted to play Sims for the longest time. But it was too cartoony to me. So it was just a thought. I do like Sims 4, but after watching videos of Sims 3 open world I was looking forward to that. So that's the most disappointing thing to me.

Truth! You put my thoughts into words well.

It's the perfect introduction. Not as overwhelming in content size, runs much better, is much easier on the eyes, and is so much more "alive" with the new animations and emotions. Although, the lack of depth obviously also really hurts it in the long run.

i started with the sims 3 for the xbox 360 and i think that the sims 4 would be a major downgrade because it cut out a ton of features, made party's into a chore, and got rid of open world when they could obviously do it

Ugh no, Seasons is best pack on Sims 4. Adds more dynamic to the game. But the Cats and Dogs can go to hell.

S C is there anything that actually says that? There could also be that there was bugs with the rain also I think we were gonna just going to get rain and no snow

@@chrismontano9787 it is true rain was going to be in the sims 2, and most likely the idea of seasons too... but the glitch happened so they prolly decided to just include rain in a seasons pack later.

that sucks, it's their fault it isn't doing as well

+DjGodaryD86 they funded Titanfall with Sims 3 revenue -_-

We've been hoping they get their crap together since mass effect 3s release, or at least I have lol. Still to be determined if they have tbh.

EA is just a dumb, they have soo much money but looks like they don't know how to spend it or even more how to do a fucking game cof cof Sims 4.

+ONDA VITAL EN UNA JUNGLA DE CRISTAL A TODO GAS POR LAS SUPERNENAS CAZADAS POR LOBEZNO ft. SONGOHANDA I don't think they care. they KNOW what people want, but they don't work towards it and don't talk about it. That's why so many have left the game or feel extremely dissatisfied with the series now

The thing EA regretted to see in the game is that there already were emotions in the Sims 3. It may not have given them stupid walking animations or made their lip quiver while they ate their burnt burgers, but it was still there. They got embarrassed after peeing themselves. They felt happy after getting married. They felt uncomfortable when they were stressed from work. I'm surprised they pushed "wacky emotions" when they should have been marketing it based on the conversation system, the CAS capabilities, the lighting system, and the new graphics.

(The day of the 'mall trip') TS4: "Ohhh.. you needed a ride..? I don't own a car... Yeah... I mean, it's not really my problem...."

Preach

Shower curtain t-shirts!

its already halfway through its life cycle pretty much and we only have two expansion packs. TS3 was much more balanced with expansion and stuff packs where as this just takes all the focus on cashgrab stuff packs really, I never really had a problem with them as they came out until you look back at how disproportionate the attention is on them

I agree i remember i didnt start really getting into the sims 3 from the sims 2 until the sims 3 was about 4 expansions in. i also think the sims 4 expansions vs past games are lacking so i hope in the future that changes

***** I was just looking the other day at the sims wiki and when you compare what you could do in the first two Sims 3 EP's versus the Sims 4's it just is disappointing.

don't know if my comment made sense but whatever xD

+Artsy Cat lol it did i feel ya

Yes, this made absolutely perfect sense! Thank you for taking the thoughts right out of my head. One of the most often given reasons I read from others who prefer TS4 is that it runs better than 3! That, and how gorgeous the sims are and how pretty the art style is. Thing is, the entire point of The Sims games wasn't ever so much about aesthetics and beautiful sims, as much as it is about the actual game play and simulation of life, the good and the bad side of it, not only the good! I don't play this game to play dress up dolls then "sit still & look pretty". If I wanted that I'd just go to the store, buy some barbie dolls and make them a cardboard box house just like I did when I was 8 years old!

I just wrote a very similar comment before I read yours. Doh!

BloodDiamondQueen This is why I don't know if I want to invest in the game now. All these stuff packs that aren't really worth it. TS4 has a better build and CAS and I actually like having more options in how I have them interact with each other, but I do agree most things don't matter. And missing toddlers and pets and cars are felt! I especially miss pets.

And it's shocking to me how they still seem to take this game for more years to come. Just even more shitty ass content on top of a shitty ass game. Truly a dead franchise. Paralives will hopely bury this game for good.

"They're trying their hardest. You should be greatful. The game js not buggy for me. Maybe it's just not for you." ...... Try posted your thoughts on the official subreddits and this will be what you get. People even claim that sims 4 is a virtual doll house therefore it don't need gameplay improvement. The current community is the reason of why sims 4 suck and why they're still making more kit.

"Nothing is really terrible about it" I think there's one thing that's absolutely terrible about The Sims 4: the way it handles worlds/neighborhoods. Not only you can't create your own, but you also can't customize the existing ones in any way. You can't add or remove lots, you can't add/change deco and trees, nothing. It's literally how TS1, a game released almost 20 years ago, handled neighborhoods. Probably the biggest and most offensive downgrade.

Nahuel yeah, you had so much more customization for the neighborhoods in sims 2...

That is a really good way to put it. And why this video's title is so accurate. Its just... meh. It's not *bad* but it's not good and its certainly not as good as past Sims. Its just disappointing all over, regardless of the fact that there's like a million expansion and game packs since this... yeah. just sad lol

The tasteless game

@@veertjebeertje13 modder disappoint don't care about the sims 2 adding into the future done

You are right about the need for more competition. I do not see many realistic simulation games like the sims on the market. The market would be better if there were more simulation and tycoon games. EA stock over the past two years has grown by 115% even though their company has a lack of stability.

GimpGirl1 Well I want to be a developer. Perhaps I could meet your request once I am skilled enough.

Be sure to add toddlers and you'll have one guaranteed buyer (me).

What's stopping you XD I actually am one, I can work on it with you...

Programming and anything to do with technology really is a growing field. I'm positive there's programmers and graphic designers that will be able to pull something off. Games are getting more complex and realistic looking each year. I just hope someone sees the opportunity to give the sims a run for their money because there are people willing to dish out a good amount of money for a game like the sims. I mean hell look at imvu and second life. Those creators are making a shit load of money and its the fans that do most of the creations (Clothes, animations, etc. Just think of a game that could be both offline and online play that had a mixture of ideas from online worlds such a second life and ideas from the sims. Id buy it in a heart beat because i'm sick of EA bullshitting us with sims 4.

Spoiler alert: you can still play the old games. I would highly recommend

Are you thinking of getting Paralives whenever it’s released??

@@kiillabytez Lmao since you seem to like Sims 4 so much, what do you think of the notorious simulation lag? I've never played Sims 2 so I can't say anything about that, but I've been playing Sims 3 since it came out in 2009. Back then, I played on an old Windows XP pc, then a Vista laptop, then on Win 8.1. All without any gameplay mods, simply cosmetic cc. While yes, it stuttered sometimes, it was at least playable and enjoyable. Even on machines that simply weren't good enough. And I also had most expansions installed and enabled. It had substance, gameplay. Even up to this day, Sims 4 simply lacks content. It's got more expansions than every game before it, but it feels like nothing matters. The "worlds", more like pngs, are a joke at best. The only good thing is building. Nothing has any consequences, it feels soulless. Your sims are all the same, there's so many traits lacking. And regarding intelligence: the sims in Sims 4 don't even do what they're supposed to be doing. They mostly just stand around like idiots, chatting, but not moving. The queue is absolutely useless at that point. Just look at the "stores" you can build with Get to Work. Sims pile up at one point, clipping into each other, doing nothing. I've never had that problem with Sims 3. Sims 4 is simply unplayable. It's not even a proper dollhouse simulator. You need a mod to fix simulation lag which makes it unplayable

Sims in TS2 dont starve to death if they have food to reach? Bon voyage offers THREE VACATIONS in one expansion pack, which have far much more activities than outdoor retreat as provided. “Tours are bullshit, that and that is bs” those aren’t even constructive comments, lol. I get that maybe TS2 is difficult for a player that isnt their first game and you take negativity over a game personaly, but chill out.

dowload a pirated version of the a sims 2 ultimate colletion its alot better

Courtney White Yeah, considering I was boycotting Sims 4 for such a long time because of the removal of open world and create-a-style, the game itself is actually pretty damn good

VIØŁΛ soooo true. I love sims 3 to death but the lagging is unbearable

100% agreed... I love sims 3 but it wasn't much fun to play because of all the lagging and it crashing after an hour or so. That's why I ended up playing sims 4, even though sims 3 is generally better

Hannah Fabian I can't agree more. And it sucks cuz sims 3 was my life but now I've grown apart from it and it hurts to see other RU-vidrs play with no issue cuz I wanna play sims 3 but I can't without it crashing after a few minutes of gameplay not to mention every second it's lagging

Sims 2 base game was better then sims 4 base game

More like Sims 0 because it has fucking nothing in the base game compared to any other base games, let alone with the expansions added to it. Idk about the first Sims (because I haven't played it), but the Sims 2 and 3 definitely crush the Sims 4 by a landslide.

Sims 2 had WAY more content then Sims 4. And honestly, I like that they got ride of the open world, while it was nice at first, the open world was very unstable and was kinda buggy even on high end machines, still, I would rather play sims 3 than this

As an avid Sims 2 player, who has tried all the games extensively, Sims 2 is definitely more meaningful, fleshed out and overall better than Sims 4

FACTS its like slightly better than TS2 and WAY worse than TS3

A lot of fans won't let this one go.

Yep. No toddlers? What? I love the growing family part/watching someone age completely. But no Create-A-Style?! That's unforgivable. I'll be damned if I can't make a bed with a giant picture of Rosie O Donald on it.

Brittany Young I think simmers are just so hung up on toddlers due to the fact that your children go straight from 8-18. Your kids start of in the crib and within three sim days they're full grown children walking about and attending school. In the sims 3 I enjoyed having my sims take family leave and being able to stroll through the park with their little toddlers, teaching their little ones how to walk and so on. It all comes down to the gameplay.

Megan T I miss create a style...all the customization and options. The sims 4 in all honesty, in my opinion, is a step back in what it could have/should have been.

I can't say I miss toddlers since it essentially forced your sims to spend like 8 hours a day teaching them to walk/talk or they'd grow up with bad traits.. HOWEVER I really don't know why they thought removing Create a Style would be a good idea :c

Yes!!! I still play it, I was playing it yesterday 😊

It's definitely my favourite, but the lagginess when you have too much stuff installed just kills it for me sometimes.

Yeah, Sims 3 is wonderful until it chokes to death and stops working.

The console versions are entirely different beasts from the PC versions (that LGR's reviews generally cover), since the amount of expansions you can have installed over the base game make the whole thing absurdly huge and compound bugs upon bugs.

Sims2 was absolutely the best!

I hope you will, there are so much things to do or storylines to implement, I play it everyday 😅💜 It's my favorite

Melissandre Nanette i did! it’s been 3 days since i’ve download it and i play everyday! i love how much unique and different storylines i can do with it

and in the sims 3 you get *chaaiiirrrrrssss*

Mak@5 Supernatural was 20$

Knowing EA, I wouldn’t be surprised

That's why they make Vampires a game pack and NOT an expansion pack. It was never intended to be like supernatural or they would have called it supernatural. They made it a game pack because you are paying for less content.

@@morganbauer5238 That's the problem. A lot of these game packs that were previously entire expansions are now watered down and simplified versions of their Sims 3 counterparts. Although they are cheaper, it does mean we miss out on a lot of content over time. Even expansions themselves lack the depth that Sims 3 ones had. Look at the Pets expansion vs Cats and Dogs, for example. Even the title shows the dumbing down and oversimplification of the Sims 4 iteration.

CurtisAlfeld ii

Same I haven't bothered getting sims 4 even though I would love to play at building and sim creator it's not work £50 ish for me to justify buying it. I love sims 3 sometimes I play with only 1 or 2 expansions and still find it enjoyable

Red Quarter agreed

my sentiments exactly :'(

Yep

The sims 3 was the best game and should stay the way it is. Sims 4 should get better cause sims 4 sucks

The PhoenixXtreme I don’t think that what he meant....