Liberal, Objectivist, Conservative: Divergent Voices (Leonard Peikoff on McCuistion TV)

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"Ideas do matter. Philosophy matters," says host Dennis McCuistion in this lively 1998 televised debate featuring Objectivist Leonard Peikoff, conservative Phyllis Schlafly, and liberal Phil Wexler. Topics include abortion, welfare, the economy, government spending, taxes and affirmative action.
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@KirkWilcox Год назад

It's always a wonderful day when ARI puts up more Leonard Peikoff content

@Avidcomp Год назад

I love it when you pull these out of the archives. I'm pretending it's 1998 and this is live tv. How thrilling.

@PoLanka65 Год назад

The ironic part is you don't even have to fantasize too much in order to pretend this aired just yesterday.

@TheJustinJ Год назад

@@PoLanka65 goes to show, a nations actions are guided by philosophy. Which comes first, and gives plenty of warning if you take their assertions to their logical ends.

@duncancurry4 Год назад

Great on so many levels. I can’t imagine seeing a discussion like this today- from the intelligent questions of the host and audience, to the respectful and thoughtful responses. It shows how prescient Peikoff, and Rand, were on these issues. It shows just how far the wacky Left and wacky Right have fallen from the semi-plausible Liberals and Conservatives of the 90s. It shows the religious and altruistic seeds of destruction that led to the bankruptcy of today’s Liberals and Conservatives. It shows that Rand’s ideas are just as relevant today as then, that they have stood the test of time, and that this is our opportunity to fill the intellectual void. Thanks to Dr Peikoff for carrying the torch then, and to ARI for carrying it now.

@davidblankenau Год назад

THANK YOU, ARI, for publishing this fascinating discussion! I hope there is much more available content to be released in the near future!

@matthewstroud4294 Год назад

"The purpose of "majority" is for choosing the personnel of Government - not it's principles" Thank you Leonard, I will be using that.

@Storabrost Год назад

More Peikoff please

@DavidCodyPeppers. Год назад

End all Foreign Aid. Including Israel. End all Bail Outs. Waiting for the outrage. Peace! \o/

@DavidCodyPeppers. Год назад

@Matthew Apsey Thanks for the reply Matthew. The U.S. government gives 20 years to extract as much profit as you are able. Then open it up to competition. Peace! \o/

@davidblankenau Год назад

This discussion, as wrong as Wexler and Schlafly were about many of these issues, could not even be held today because of the massive intellectual and moral deterioration of both the so-called "liberals" AND the "conservatives". Wexler and Schlafly seem almost rational by comparison. Peikoff, of course, ran rings around both of them, and today any real Objectivist would (and does) destroy any argument each side could ever make, on ANY issue.

@science212 Год назад

Peikoff is a great thinker.

@davidblankenau Год назад

Well, he DID spend 30 years learning from (arguably) the GREATEST thinker in history!

@sybo59 Год назад

@Matthew Apsey Rothbard was a dishonest, nasty man who ripped off Rand without credit, and who ended by supporting dictatorships over the United States.

@davidblankenau Год назад

@Matthew Apsey HAHAHAHA!! AYN RAND! Rothbard was a f****ng Anarchist.

@davidblankenau Год назад

The Libertarians appropriated pieces of Rand's philosophy (such as non-initiation of physical force), but rejected the philosophical foundation underpinning ALL of Objectivism.

@Rocinante1963 Год назад

He supported John Kerry in the 2004 elections, though. Not so great. Also, shouldn't have bragged about keeping that first page of A.R. manuscript that was promised to the Library of Congress.

@sybo59 Год назад

What a treat. Peikoff’s intellectual clarity is so apparent when he’s in a room with disintegrated folks (like in the famous 1984 socialism debate). I must say though, the conservative and liberal were both somewhat charming, in their own ways.

@Zack_Raheem Год назад

This is exactly what I want from ARI. Thank you so much for this.

@howlingdin9332 10 месяцев назад

"Technically a parasite." No, it has to be a different species to be "technically" a parasite.

@Cirnenric Год назад

Excellent intellectual discussion on issues still active, unresolved and about the same ideas. Unfortunately this level of discussion of ideas is mostly gone now.

@micchaelsanders6286 Год назад

48:00 Great point on racism.

@richardzellers 11 месяцев назад

If I didn't previously know the philosophy of each guest before the introduction, I would have EASILY identified the Liberal just by appearance.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@aeomaster32 Год назад

A well conducted program that explored ideas in a civilized way. Twenty five years later you are unlikely see its likes again.

@sixofone88 Год назад

Thank you for uploading this! I thoroughly enjoyed watching it!

@kb3ojg461 Год назад

Ibm genuinely surprised that Peikoff would participate in something like this, instead of throwing a tantrum about vnot sanctioning evilv.

@2001mss Год назад

Peikoff is just so awesome!

@CptChandler Год назад

53:26 Nine second sound bytes! 🫣

@joshuagould548 Год назад

Not that it's a significant metric, but Dr. Peikoff had more applauses than the other guests, maybe even combined. To think on an open stage, the general population doesn't think Objectivism is absurd. It's a shame that these types of discussions among differing ideas don't happen more often. Great discussion.

@MANN_O 6 месяцев назад

Not a criticism of Objectivism but I want to know how the police, military and court system would be financed without the progressive tax system. That is one thing I have not heard explained. Building a world class military is not cheap.

@micchaelsanders6286 Год назад

Are you going to publish Dr Peikoffs debate/discussion with David Horowitz?

@sybo59 Год назад

I didn’t know that existed!

@bingbong3643 Год назад

@@sybo59 neither did I. I need to see it all.

@sybo59 Год назад

@@bingbong3643 I tried Googling and found a Peikoff podcast clip in which he answers a question about his opinion of Horowitz. He says he’s never read any of his work, but had him on his radio show at one point and was completely turned off. Peikoff says Horowitz compared Rand to Stalin for having an absolutist view of morality. So I don’t think there was ever a formal debate, but I’d love to hear the radio clip, if it survives anywhere!

@joshuagould548 Год назад

I forget where I seen Ayn Rand write about this, but on an open stage, where two (or more) opposing ideas are clearly expressed, it's the more rational idea that will likely win. But when the differing ideas are on a stage, and there's obfuscation or evasion, the irrational idea(s) will likely win. With this discussion being so open and clear, Dr. Leonard Peikoff was able to dissect the ideas of the opposition, effectively dismantling them. Amazing job Dr. Peikoff!!

@benjaminwilson6487 Год назад

22:20 "You're letting Washington enlighten us?" 🔥

@guillermosahuquillo4499 Год назад

Civilized America… so much nostalgia

@tomservo75 Год назад

This reminds me of how just a quarter century ago, liberal meant something far different than it does today. I believe Mr. Wexler is a true liberal, where it meant freedom of expression, freedom of choice. Just one example, the prayer in school. Wexler stated that the school should not be forcing beliefs on children. Today's version of liberal would be against pulling children out of school and in favor of forcing beliefs like globalism, socialism, transgendrism, etc. It seems to me that when this was filmed, the liberals would have been the ones pushing school choice more than conservatives.

@AdamLong1973 Год назад

It’s like they are all operating in about 22 levels of comprehension and the other two shine a light on two or three levels that are easy to see because they deal with what’s happening in life, but Leonard shines his all the way to the bottom level and all the rest become easier to see.

@quatele Год назад

Excellent!

@z400racer37 Год назад

TV used to be good? Weird... O.O

@Suejones7628 Год назад

Yes, it’s important to also see this now as we were children, young or for what other reason, Mau have been disinterested. Now they have a captive audience.

@AndyT-np8mm Год назад

These people seem a little behind in terms of fashion.

@riddler576 Год назад

Phyllis was right about sound bite culture.

@GiovanniH91 Год назад

27:27 & 27:47 🇺🇸🗽 👏🏻.

@charlie_painter Год назад

Clips of Dr. Peikoff from the show. Feel free to share!

@bingbong3643 Год назад

Oh, never seen this one before.🍿

@nikolasbbq Год назад

That Wexler hairdo. PRICELESS! NEVER SEEN THAT IN MY LIFE! Here we are 25 yeaers later and closer to socialism.

@1godlessmonkey Год назад

Well said! 42:48.

@adherentofladycolumbia725 Год назад

Extremely Civil

@adammobile7149 Год назад

I see it for the first time. Cool one 😮

@phaeous Год назад

Why must he emphasize 'attached' (machine or womb) why can't he accept that a true human can exist with an ego in the mother - that has no autonomy over whether it may keep receiving nutrients & shelter? Well... i guess he doesn't get a potential & actual Man are derived from whether it has whole awareness (not whether it's in this or that moment o childbirth necessarily)

@jamiestewart4087 11 месяцев назад

Pretty close to the issues we face today, but they use reason and intellect instead of tribalism to make their points.

@someonenotnoone 15 дней назад

Their tribe is homesteaders.

@m9mike9 Год назад

Phil backed into a corner reverted to a feelings based argument without a logical foundation behind it. As for the woman presenting at the hospital, I would have immediately called that out as a 'lifeboat scenario'. You can't fabricate a hypothetical situation and then base your argument upon that because even if it was disproved, you can keep on modifying the scenario until you win the argument which takes the debate further away from reality.

@madmartigan9442 Год назад

pseudo intellectuals won’t debate objectivists today. We will never see debates like this again. Same with debates from Milton Friedman back in the 70’s/80s.

@williamhyman Год назад

Thank you as an 1.Objectivist I hold Capitalism as my pursuit, political or otherwise 2. A Conservative I hold that the Fiscal power be removed back to how MAN lived before the emperor, chief or President. 3. As a Liberal I believe in a public made up of individuals, where 1mm off the skin of your body, either is your private property or a public property, public meaning other free citizens ie Liberals each as an individual..

@noahb5019 Год назад

People who say you can't judge a book by its cover have never met Phil Wexler, nor any of the other self-righteous, anti-social clowns who are his spiritual compatriots.

@timarmesto2685 5 месяцев назад

This is what prevents me from believing and working for a secular society. A world of logic and reasoning is great until you end up at the place where what people are spending time on is reasoning themselves out of hedonistic consequences, and then start asking questions like when can children consent? Is it possible for animals to consent? And of course with one's belief in their ability to rationalize comes a growing group's tendency to believe they ought to be able to force people to help others. Everytime a society "goes secular" it's as if degeneracy and disgusting people start to leave the decent people in the dust. I don't know if I believe in God, but I only want to live in a christian society.

@evanhammond7305 7 месяцев назад

We have fell so far in 26 years. Imagine conservatives and liberals today. I wonder if these guys realize Lenard is canadian.

@gillesandfio8440 Год назад

That was totally awesome. Thank you ARI.

@daviddedick14 Год назад

Thank you, ARI. This is a most interesting discussion - With some unexpected turns. Leonard Peikoff, as always, is amazing. I was surprised at how well spoken the conservative lady is. (At least on some of the issues).

@Suejones7628 Год назад

Why surprised?

@tomservo75 Год назад

43:03 Oh the modern woke crowd would LOOOOOOVE him!

@robertromero8692 Год назад

"we can tell whether the fetus is male or female". Wow, today's woke crowd would really hate that idea.

@someonenotnoone 16 дней назад

Sorry, you messed up. Today's "woke" crowd would say "you can't tell whether the fetus is a man or a woman."

@emoshunless Год назад

Wow. I look at this, the free to choose series, Rand on Donahue and Johnny Carson... Tv used to be much better. This was amazing Peikoff rocked it Also... It seems liberals and conservatives used to be much better ..

@Indivisible_Individual 3 месяца назад

Every time I watch Dr. Peikoff debate anyone, I can’t wrap my mind around how anyone has the audacity to try to debate him! His articulations are so close to “self-evident,” that I wonder how anyone cannot see the truth. He clearly has the most honest and consistent stand. This makes me wonder how over the last 26 years, his ideas (and by extension, AR’s) have not persuaded mainstream liberals or conservatives to move closer to these ideas. Instead, we are further away from them than ever before.

@jonbrandon6793 2 месяца назад

Yeah, because anyone who places an unborn human being on a level with an acorn obviously has a solid grasp on objective morality. Sign me up right away!

@someonenotnoone 16 дней назад

He rambles on uselessly for hours and hours. This stuff is on RU-vid because they can't keep finding suckers willing to pay to be "taught." To people who have a working knowledge of logic before they find Objectivism, it really isn't very convincing.

@Indivisible_Individual 15 дней назад

@@someonenotnoone It appears you know something about rambling on and on (and on and on and on). Where does your disdain for Objectivism come from? Are you a socialist who hates free markets? An authoritarian who hates freedom? A statist who hates constitutionally limited government? A mediocrity who disdains achievement? A religious zealot who hates America’s revolutionary separation of church and state? A collectivist who hates individuality? Regardless, you failed to show your “working knowledge of logic.” Maybe you’ll do better your second time around.

@someonenotnoone 15 дней назад

@@Indivisible_Individual I'm opposed to people who don't understand logic teaching logic. Objectivists seem to think logic doesn't go beyond the zeroth order. They think contradictions are all that matters. Not substantiating their assumptions.

@Botmoot 7 месяцев назад

It’s weird when things like this bring tears to my eyes. Simply hearing people speak with intelligence in a public way like they used to do, it’s such a great feeling to hear someone speak with conviction and confidence in a literate and articulate manner and very sad to see how divided and low we have fallen since not so long ago. 😢