@@ЖамилаХаитова-я8хbut in the book only one thing is canon: the secret ending about the axolotl(but is still an unknown match cause axolotl is featless)
Now that you put it that way, it’s still makes sense on how the lich and golb wins (babies eat practically everything so a lil fish crawling thing and a chip stands no chance against a baby)
@@lordcaprisunthe2nd he didnt 1 shot golb. He just punched him and he was sent flying. Golb barely even reacted to the punch, he simply acted like he didnt care. GOLB was stated to be the most powerful thing in the universe. So we can easily say golb>catalyst comets. (Lich is the embodiment of a catalyst comet/Also golb is stated to be above the d dreamer hierarchy. Lich also said that he was a scholar of golb. There are theories that he scholars of golb were all primordial monsters, then hunson and orgalorg, and then only lich. Because the scholars of golb are those who follow golb's will. (Spreading chaos). Also finn wasnt able to do anything agaisnt golb (he also is the embodiment of a catalyst comet, and jake also wasnt able to do anything agaisnt the monsters golb created. Jake is also the embodiment of a catalyst comet. So yeah golb>lich
@@jackeyesteon9427When Bill Chip invaded the mysterious town, they said that as his territory grows, he becomes more powerful. We will see the full power of Bill Chip in the 3rd season And Bill Chiper used a quarter of his strength
Okay so this is 99% Bill outside the barrier, so bill is boundless (can do anything) which pretty much makes bill win. + Bill has Infinite speed, strength, and power. So I think Bill wins.
@@isukatgemz2166he was always a simp. The only reason he does what he does across all AT continuity is because he does it in the name of Golb, thinking he'll get something in return, or at the very least praised for his efforts.
@@isukatgemz2166well I mean can you blame him for being desperate, this lich succeeded in having everyone in his universe killed, and I heard somewhere that the lich is aware of all his incarnation’s(the hands/SweetP) and out of every version of lich, he was the only one ever truly successful in his mission, and because time is constant across the multi-verse, the lich must have been sitting their for about 16-17 years, and even when he was able to see Golb he never got what he wanted, which was a response(mostly because golb apparently can’t talk).
@@imjustraino, he was *retconned* into being a simp, he spend seasons upon seasons, fucking years being his own villain, before the writes even thinking about creating Golb, but then at the very last minute, in the last episode he appears, they just add "oh actually he was was a servant all along" sorry but if you want to just accept or maybe defend this rushed terrible writing and character assasination go ahead, but many others won't
I mean he’s able to revive a dorito with a ton of powers just by spelling his name before he dies, honestly I wouldn’t say axolotl has the most abilities since we only saw him in one thing of the show but he could potentially have a lot more abilities that are unknown and considering he’s more powerful than bill but that’s just my opinion.
Huge cap Lich and golb solo negative diff The lich is high outerversal via type 3 transduality And golb is outerversal via being able to manipulate the antiverse
@@averagetf2player764each primordials full power beats golb and either way theres many versions of the lich lich farmworld lich original timeline or mortal folly, when it comes to catalysts comet catalyst can litterally end the entire verse of adventure time as enchiridion and adventure time had hilbert space and mw1 and the dreamers hiearchy. so litterally your bill is ARKLOTHoLAC victim or bmo having ng'zot'Aa if u dint know there both in comics
@leocadiacarvalho7090your lack of research of adventure time show and comic is litterally is quite funny "CoMiCs ArEnT cAnOn" comics have been canon and we have the ss so you still need your research bill is only high hyper or mid
Of the 4 characters, Golb and Axolotl win. Comparing Axolotl and Golb is difficult. The year showed more in the Adventure Time series and it became clear that it does not depend on time and space. Golb is the very embodiment of chaos; he lived at the beginning of time or before the very concept of time. Golb destroys entire worlds with just his presence and destroyed the lich. The axolotl showed little and even in The Gravity Falls series itself said little about him. But it is known that Axolotl is many times stronger than Bill Cipher, which puts Axolotl on the same level as Golb.
@blazi5218 the thing everyone doesn't understand is that while he will always come back he will never win a 1 on 1 fight against bill, yes the lich will always return but will never have the power to beat bill. The only argument ever made for the lich I'd that he can be destroyed as he always returns given hes the end, but their are physical versions made of him that would lose to bill every time especially since bill gets stronger every second, the lich would be more of a weed than a threat to bill
im gonna guess whats gonna happened so first golb would just sit around watching as the Litch get ganged up on and like the original story The Lich will be mad at Golb for doing nothing, so golb would obliterate lich into a tetris And because bill is cocky, he'll get turned into one too and axolotl probably after.
The Axolotl would be too nice and kind hearted to destroy them three. Just like he could’ve killed Bill Cipher since he’s weaker than him, but he didn’t so he probably find a way of peace.
Lich:infinite layers into boundless, Golb:same thing Bill fodder:universal at the very best Axolotl:featless fodder but since bill cipher's powers rely on it it must be stronger than bill, nowhere near Lich and Golb tho
Not Really The Lich Alone Scales Above Both Bill And Axolotl And At Composite He Surpasses Golb Composite Axolotl < Composite Bill (Comp Would Include Full Potential Bill Where He Becomes Above Axolotl)
@@fallingdevilglazer Time Baby Is Not Anywhere Near Him In Terms Of Power And He's Practically Featless Full Power Axolotl > Full Power Bill Full Potential Axolotl < Full Potential Bill Golb And The Lich Outscale Both Of Them
I keep hearing people say Axolotl wins but they only say what tier he's in. Like we know what the other three can do but Axolotl? We have no clue what he can do.
Bill literally got butt when mere teens made fun of him, got hit in the eye by maple which can take hours to heal, and failed to chase two teens thoughout his own castle, he's literally nothing compaired to everyone else on the list, heck axolotl has literally no feats.
The only thing im saying adventure tume is more powerful than gravity falls is not golb he would lose to axolotl its the cosmic imagination im not just a fan of gravoty falls and adventure time im telling the truth
I think Axolotl isn’t as powerful as most people interpret him to be. We haven’t seen many feats from him and don’t even know if he’s really MORE powerful than Bill, maybe he just has abilities to revive people. I’d say a fair estimate of Axolotl’s power with our current info is roughly Multiversal+.
I think bill and axolotl wins because axolotl is a cosmic being that knows the secrets abt the universe because he knows when bill is going to come back and bill is scared of him
Golb is the god of chaos , the creator and destroyer of endless worlds , he exists before the concept of time and space , Bill could not escape from his world without children , whereas golb creates and destroys such every second , his very appearance in any reality brings chaos
@@jackeyesteon9427 there was only a hole on his belly for Finn, Simon to escape and it didn't even damaged or hurt or make him feel anything. He is only droved away by Betty merging with him since that's the only way. What are you yapping about?
Fax, due to the adventure time lore being mostly and entirely based on dreams, the entirety of adventure time cosmology can be scaled to boundless easily. The lich scales above infinite dimensionality meaning already he reaches aleph2-3-4 levels like nothing base form. Then we have him full power, it is boundless as he transcends infinity in all variables and concepts meaning he can absorb boundless amounts of energy, move and use immeasurable strength and speed seen moving in places with no space, time or even a perceivable existence, and has power over streams in the infinite tegemark 4 multiverse hiearchy of Gilbert spaces which states one multiverse is infinite and 1 outer verse is one multiverse which means the lich has destroyed and infinite amount of outer verses. Additionally bill is not a true immortal while the lich is unable to die or be erased even when the perceivable planes of existence and timeline erasure are used as he is a primordial archetype cosmic being with power over dreams while bill is a dream demon stuck traveling through others minds. AT cosmology makes them solo easily😂
@@brunogomez2984lmao 😂😂 the lich pretty much outscales what we can calculate with math and physics anyways but we use these terms to help simplify concepts💀💀💀😭
I'm going to start fuming over a comment that uses scaling logic rather than real life science because that's how fictional scaling debates work -the original comment@@brunogomez2984
@@serdusrex7274It's because at the end of Gravity Falls and in the books they say that most beings, whether from 2D (which no longer exists, because of Bill) or 6D will treat the axolotl as a god and in the end Bill asked the axolotl bring him back, as if Bill were just a grain of sand next to the axolotl. In addition to that he is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient.
es que despues de ver el libro de bill,se me es dificil creer que lich tan siquiera este ala altura,es decir golb ni hazañas tiene a parte de ser controlado por una corona magica :V. en mi humilde opinion bill y axolotl neg-diff
Lmfao axolotl>golb>bill> Axolotl is omniversal while golb is only high outer meaning he cant defeat axolotl because of how much power he holds he can turn bill into stone without even trying
no bill is almost omniscient and the axolotl is totally omniscient and golb has not proven to be intelligent and the lich is barely intelligent but the axolotl and bill have a lot of knowledge about life the universes and blah, blah, blah and I repeat bill is almost omniscient and the axolotl is omniscient bruhhhhh!!!
@@rebeccahdatig814omnipresence îs the ability to be anywhere and everywhere at the same time în the multiverse which îs true for the axolotl but so îs golb and the lich and true I overrated him alot hes hyper 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 also hyper with statements bc if not hes featless lmao and omnipresence doesnt grant you a power up boost
