Hey Manchukuo, are you independent? Manchukuo: Am I independent Japan? Japan: Independent? You make me laug.. I mean Yes. You're very independent my ally.
@@Jake-dh9qk Other nations with similar relations British + Hong Kong USSR + North Korea USA + Taiwan USSR + Vietnam USSR + China USA + Israel some times it seems to make sense other times it's beyond my head. It is remarkable. I think it is nothing new it looks different but it is just human evolution. This is what we call progress. Quite interesting indeed.
Hey Chinese here, from Changchun (old name Hsinking) used to be the capital of Manchukuo, my grandfather lived there, I always ask him what was it like, he said: “is complicated, since they build railway, electricity and flush toilet, but on the other hand, they treat us less human, unit 731, experiment, genocide, force us to sing the Japanese anthem, so the good thing they did cannot justify our blood, but compared with what happened to Nanking, I guess we are lucky”. He passed away in 2008. I always regret not asking him more about his experience during WWII… I was so naive back then, also since he is a farmer, so he was just trying to live rather than being a soldier
My great grandfather was also in Manchuko as a tourist. He has a journal about his world travels, but I haven't read it yet. This video makes me want to finally read it.
If you guys like stuff like that I recommand Stefan Zweig's The World from Yesterday. It's an autobiography by an Austrian Jewish author from the late 1800s to World War II. He talks about his trips through Europe, America, Asia, Russia, the political and cultural events of his years, the great figures of his time, etc.
This is what uncertain and insecure people, organizations and nations do. They see everything as a danger. E.g. Russia were afraid China could invade their very thinly populated Siberia lands, so they built the Trans Siberian Railway, then they were afraid of China/Japan attacking the railway so they occupied Manchukuo. Japan was afraid of Russia hauling troops via the Trans Siberian and invading them via Korea, so they occupied Korea. Then they occupied Manchukuo to protect Korea. then they tried to occupy China to protect Manchukuo. They modernized, industrialized and militarized because they saw what Western countries did to other backwards nations (including Russia with China, US with Hawaii). Same thing is happening right now. China is afraid of another maritime invasion, so they are occupying islands to prevent enemy movement. They are afraid of someone potentially using Taiwan as a stage for an invasion, so they are trying to occupy it as well. And US is so paranoid the thought of China being able to defend their own territorial waters against US fleets is fueling arms race and unsustainable military funding. Not to mention they have military presence in bases all over the world, including tens of thousands in Germany of all places. In all, if everyone entered a treaty and poured more of their money in their economy instead of their military humanity would be far better.
@@nikolatasev4948 the Soviets didn't invade Manchuria out of fear for Japan as it was already mid 1945 by then: it was for power. A weak nation occupies land to protect its own borders, like how israel occupies the Golan Heights and the West Bank to act as a shield against the Arab states. A strong nation like the Soviet union invades countries to secure more resources and global power. Japan was definitely out for power and resources in Asia, so they were secure of themselves and their capabilities, although overconfident due to their rapid success in the world's stage.
@@OmarSlloum Russia occupied Manchuria between 1900 and 1905. The Boxer Rebellion had destroyed progress along their railway projects there. They were afraid it would happen again.
@@OmarSlloum They invaded Finland because they were afraid that Leningrad was not secure. So they figured that taking Karelia would protect them. Turns out that even taking land doesn’t help them at all.
Can you imagine if Peter Fleming had an iPhone and just started vlogging his trip to Manchukuo through the Soviet Union and China and put in on VICE documentary on it years later?
El Salvador at the time just had a coup that put a fascist general in charge, and the US refused to recognize them as legitimate. Japan, wanting to annoy the US at every possible moment, recognized the new government as legitimate, and in exchange El Salvador diplomatically supported Japan
might wanna have a read about the contemporary happenings in El Salvador, it's unsurprising considering just how criminal and genocidal the Salvadoran government was as well
11:19 what Puyi really thought: *"GET ME OUT OF HERE, I'VE BEEN A PRISONER IN MY OWN KINGDOM EVER SINCE I WAS CROWNED, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE JAPANESE ARE DOING, PLEASE HELP!"*
My grandfather's brother was a Japanese farmer, and he was sent to Manchuria a few times (a couple months at a time) to train the locals there for growing certain vegetables.
My grandfather was a Chinese farmer in Manchuria. His family's land was taken and given to the Japanese settlers, and where forced to hunt in the forest, and labelled bandits by the Kwantung Army. Your point?
@@LibeliumDragonfly I'm sorry to hear that. I understand how horrible Japan was and I dont think japan has taken proper responsibility, and japan hasn't learn anything from ww2 either. I didnt have a point. Just wrote about what had happened.
you mean Karafuto, or South Sakhalin, right? It was an integral part of Japan, inhabited by ethnic Japanese and Ainu minorities. Unlike Manchuria which was technically an independent state populated mostly by ethnic Chinese. I assume the life in Karafuto would be pretty similar to living in Hokkaido.
@@bronzedisease well manchukuo was dissolved in 1945. you said you grew up in a town that was part of manchukuo when you were growing up. so are you 85?
@@JabzyJoe Love your “stuff I find interesting” vids man, dull nothing! They’re incredibly informative and interesting (and I do tend to binge them like the other commenter mentioned)
Fun fact: In 1907, the Korean 'Righteous Army' ( 의병 ) under the command of Yi In-yeong massed 10,000 troops to liberate Seoul and defeat the Japanese. The Army came within 12 km of Seoul but could not withstand the Japanese counter-offensive. The Righteous Army was no match for two infantry divisions of 20,000 Japanese soldiers backed by warships moored near Incheon. The Righteous Army retreated from Seoul and the war went on for two more years. Over 17,000 Righteous Army soldiers were killed and more than 37,000 were wounded in combat. Unable to fight the Japanese army head-on, the Righteous Army split into small bands of partisans to carry on the War of Liberation in China, Siberia and the Baekdu Mountains in Korea. The Japanese troops first quashed the Peasant Army and then disbanded the remained of the government army. Many of the surviving guerrilla and anti-Japanese government troops fled to Manchuria and Primorsky Krai to carry on their fight. In 1910, Japan annexed Korea and starting the period of Japanese rule.
Another weird fact I think during the Tang Dynasty of China It was hard for China to take Korea, yet Japan was able to take Korea. China couldn't take Korea but Japan could. hm.... that is quite interesting. what one nation fails to take another nation ends up taking very interesting how that works. I think the Mongol empire struggled against Japan but the USA was able to win against Japan, yet the Mongol empire ruled Russia but Russia later on was able to match the USA when it was in the USSR. That is a lot of power nations/empires.
@@Tethloach1 Thats kind of a vague observation though and quite misleading on the surface. Its true that both China and the Mongols never was able to truly conquer the Korean peninsula (China only some parts and the mongols had to settle in with a peace treaty). You have to realize that these were periods of time where the Korean dynasty actually focused heavily onto their military. A huge flaw that the later Joseon dynasty did not focus on which resulted in a weak and corruptible military system. Also the only time Japan conquered Korea was when they industrialized thanks to the US forcibly opening them up to the world. The mongol empire technically didn't struggle against Japan but instead struggled against mother nature (two typhoons completely annihilated the mongol fleet twice ending any dream of mongol conquest of Japan). Mongolians technically COULD have conquered Kievan Rus but stopped midway because of Genghis Khans passing which could have been a big feat. However, Russians were only equal footings with America briefly.
4:26 That uniform is interesting, although I have never seen that kind of armour/uniform ever in my life before. Do you have references for that drawing?
Manchukuo has never fulfilled the two main goals: extracting oil and supplying food for Japan. The former was not done until by Chinese oil workers in 1950s (China is an oil-poor country, and the only oil fields are extremely difficult to extract and the quality is not satisfactory). While the latter problems is even more ironic. because of severe energy shortages and environmental inadaptability (the food crisis of North Korea from the 1990s to the beginning of this century also originated from the loss of oil support from the Soviet Union), Those Japanese farmers whom semi-forced or even completely kidnapped to the northeastern China, has always been in turn to accept food aid from Japan. In addition, the fund father of NPRK, Prime Minister Kim Il Sung was a general of the Chinese Resistance at that time.
@@unifiedhorizons2663 My daughter is an eighth-grade student. Her autumn semester-end exam of geography had a question item: why northeast rice is seen in the market when northeastern China (Manchuria) is not a main producing area of rice? She said she answered that "because they have large greenhouses there." I couldn't help laughing. The correct answer is, most likely, a trade-off of pros and cons in thermal, soil, and production technique conditions. Manchuria is cold and can only grow one season of rice, but the land is vast and fertile, making it suitable for mechanization. Therefore, economically, the price of northeast rice is somehow competitive. Unlike vegetables, rice can be stored for a long time and does not need reverse-season greenhouses. Besides, who can afford greenhouse rice, or what planters can make a profit out of it? Japan failed before it could mechanize the agriculture of Manchuria.
@@blandwinde Northeastern Rice is more expensive than southern rice. It takes far longer to grow, tastes better, is more nutritious and is regarded as a premium product compared to southern rice which ripens in a few months.
Well, you come to a predominantly Chinese place, took over through military means, chased Chinese people off their land, surrogated and goaded Japanese in Japan who had little farming experience to come and farm, and expected good crop yield? My grandparents were born in Manchuria, and based on their Childhood account, it wouldn't be a surprise that the 2 goals failed.
Manchuria is probably one of the most unlucky Axis countries.Bombed the shit out of by the allies then looted by Soviet but never get rebuilt like Germany and Japan
I doubt the Japanese allowed foreign journalists to see the dirty stuff. But Fleming pretty much says outright that this “state” is a Japanese colony, so he had to assume there was some violence going on. Also remember he asked officials about bombing of innocent civilians as part of local reprisals. It doesn’t seem he was naive
@@TheLocalLt He wasn't. But it wasn't his call, it was the Kwantung Army's call. Then again the film The Last Emperor garnished him way too much sympathy in the west. Pu Yi was no doubt a war criminal who got off hook easy, just like Hirohito.
Exceptional video; if only more videos like this one existed somewhere on youtube, if not elsewhere on the internet, keep up the great work there, Jabzy. If anyone ether knows or can find anything anywhere ether on youtube on the internet like this, please let me know as soon as possible.
I just downloaded the audiobook, really looking forward to this. I was a big fan of De Tocqueville’s Democracy in America for its “on the ground” historical narration. Cheers and thanks. Ill chime in and let you know how the read went.
Great grandad was born in Southern Manchuria in Korean towns , near Russian border. He fought for the Manchukuo army during ww2( many Koreans served in Manchukuo army ) and after WW2, he moved to Pyungyang, and then to Seoul. During Korean War he fought for the South. I just hate how Koreans are forced to kill eachother for China, West etc.
Japan, Salvador, Dominican Republic, Germany, Italy, other axis puppet states, Hungary, Spain, Rumania, Albania, Ethiopia, Mongolia, USSR, Thailand and other Japan influenced countries like: Philipines and Myanmar, even the Holy See recognized Manchukuo. :D Such a nice video, u have a new sub
Burma as a collaborationist state with Japan, and with respect to Hungary and Romania, they didn't even need to be from the Axis to recognize it, or maybe I didn't understand you well.
?? a state (occupied or not) can recognize a country, literally, when it wishes to do so. All that is needed is representative figures of these collaborative governments.
In the past, there was a country called Manchukuo. This country called Manchukuo suddenly appeared in Northeast China on March 1, 1932, and entered history in a flash with the abdication of Emperor Puyi on August 1, 1945. The life of Manchukuo is only 13 years and 5 months. However, for the Japanese who live there, the end of Manchukuo is probably the beginning of life in Manchukuo. They are faced with the invasion of the Soviet army and the long way back home, or they are The fate of being sent to Siberia, the miserable suffering that lingers between life and death, cannot be explained in a few words. What exactly is Manchukuo? What does Manchukuo represent for itself? These questions kept lingering in their minds and turned into various imaginations of Manchukuo. These memories of various fragments of Manchukuo in the memories of Manchu people are embedded in a large number of diaries and memoirs, and they have also become clues for us to get a glimpse of its mysterious appearance. after 1945, there has always been an opinion that Manchukuo is by no means a mere puppet state or colonial state. Most of this school argues that Manchukuo was a movement to eliminate the imperialist domination of Europe and the United States and build an ideal country in Asia, which is the realization of a utopian ideal. Japanese literary critic Hayashi Fangxiong pointed out: Behind this short-lived country, there is a long history of Western countries invading Asia for 200 years. The Meiji Restoration was Asia's first successful resistance against Western aggression, and Manchukuo was the continuation of the spirit of resistance here. Positioning Manchukuo as a puppet state is a conclusion that cannot be accommodated in Asian history. In the development of world history, Manchukuo is still a continuous subject. ("The History of Manchuria. General Theory", edited by the Publishing Committee of the History of Manchuria) Lin Fangxiong believes that Manchukuo's evaluation will naturally be rehabilitated in a hundred years. In addition, Kishi Shinsuke, who served as the undersecretary of the General Affairs Department of Manchuria and became prime minister after the war, also recalled: The ideals of national harmony and royal land are very dazzling. Whether in science or conscience, Manchukuo has boldly marched toward the ideal. Manchukuo is indeed a very unique kind of modern state building. Those who directly participated in this construction not only embraced hope and enthusiasm, but also received strong support from the people of Japan and Manchuria. Even the Indian saint Gandhi supported him from afar. At that time, Manchukuo was the hope of East Asia. ("Woohoo Manchuria", edited by the Publishing Association of Manchuria History) On the eve of the collapse of Manchukuo, Gu Haizhongzhi, who also served as the deputy head of the General Affairs Department, was convinced that "The founding process of Manchukuo is an unprecedented attempt in history. In this era of aggression and colonization in history, we are trying to reach the land of Manchuria. The attempt to establish an ideal country is the pride of the Japanese nation. At that time, the Japanese youth, regardless of fame and wealth, were striving hard for their ideals. It was also the pride of the Japanese youth" ("Manchukuo's Dream Will Not Die", "Manchuria in Frustration" "Guo"), believes that Manchukuo’s ideals for the founding of a nation will shine and shine with the development of history and will be passed on forever. The Kwantung Army Staff Officer Katakura Zhong, who promoted the founding of Manchuria, believes that the concept of royal land and national harmony uncovered by Manchuria is the sublimation of humanitarianism. It is "the cornerstone of East Asia's progress towards stability and the fruit of the ideal" ("Recalling Manchuria" country"). Naoki Hoshino, the former chief of general affairs, praised Manchuria: Not only the Japanese who live in the position of instructors, Manchukuo will also broadly unite the power of the East Asian nations for development and development, and share their blessings with all ethnic groups to create a new world of peace and happiness. ("Unfinished Dream-Foreign History of Manchuria"). Hoshino also used "Atlantis in the Twentieth Century" ("Wuhu Manchuria") as the title in his recollection of Manchuria. Atlantis is recorded in Plato's dialogues " Critias " and " Timaeus " , an ancient Western ideal society located on the Strait of Gibraltar. Although Hoshino did not explain why he used "Atlantis in the 20th century" as a metaphor for Manchuria in his article, it is impossible to know the basis. Atlantis, located on the other side of the Strait, is a city with rigorous urban planning and strong military power. It was originally intended to dominate the Eurasian continent, but on the eve of the Athenian counterattack, it was submerged by a sudden earthquake and flood-this The great illusory country seems to coincide with certain images of Manchukuo. However, will Manchukuo really turn into an eternal legend like the dreamy kingdom of Atlantis? Even in the British philosopher Francis. Bacon (Francis Bacon) bird Topia story "New亚特兰提斯" ( New Atlantis) as described in rebirth, and a place in history?
@@timurermolenko2013 I misspelled the pinyin it's Jilin Province. Kirin is Japanese for Qilin (Chee-leen) in Mandarin a mythical creature who shows up at auspicious occasions like the births of emperors or sages.
@@zhubajie6940 i know about mythical creature. But also "Jilin" is called Kirin in Manchu language. Sadly manchus were replaced by Chinese :( by the way, I didn't even notice you misspelled that at first place
@@timurermolenko2013 I know but my first mandarin teacher was Manchu and pronounced it with a J but she was teaching me Mandarin not Manchu of course. The mythical creature is Qilin in Mandarin Pinyin.
@@zhubajie6940 there are only about 10 (yes, ten) native speakers of Machu left worldwide. And a few thousand of those who somehow can speak it as the second language. Finally China is unified! Languages are dead. I saw some videos on RU-vid of archaically old Machu speaking it.
@@codyshi4743 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zheng_Xiaoxu en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhang_Jinghui these 2. Ironic, one of them was from Fujian, in southeastern China, and both were Han Chinese, so Manchukuo for Manchus my ass.
Like Stalin? Yeah, you criticize Israel, get labeled "anti-semite", write scripts for James Bond between anti-Jewish slurs not even dissimulated, get an oscar!
i think this style of video is in the right direction, but i think a what was life ln these occupied territories series would be better than just reading what a tourist wrote. This sort of series isnt really done well by anyone else
Manchurian Not Chinese Manchuria It has not been Chinese territory since ancient times.Manchuria must be independent. If China disintegrates, then Manchuria must become independent.
@@MbisonBalrog - I had no idea, they were old movies when I was a kid already. Even my most enthusiastic relatives whe bouth nearly everything from John Le Carre and Agatha Christie never had such book. It must have been one of those horrible books that someone thinks: "oh, wow, what a wonderfully cimatic piece of crap, I must recycle into a movie!" Or maybe it was all MI6 propaganda since day one. I did like Trevanian's books though.
