Light Bulbs | LED vs. Incandescent 

Maybe add sodium light bulbs aswell

Sure, but I prefer the cosiness of warm white when I'm eating :) High kelvin seems too clinical and cold for my taste and home. Like visting the dentist... Thanks for the input.

But it's also worth mentioning, that the light emitters have different spectroscopy image: www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/reviews/g164/incandescent-vs-compact-fluorescent-vs-led-ultimate-light-bulb-test/? Could you publish your comparison chart?

Thank you so much. I've been looking for a vid such as this for quite some time now. As it's now evident, if you want true colors, you'll have to buy a LED that has a much lower lifetime expectancy than the ~80 lamps. From 15.000 down to 2000, just as long as regular oldschool bulbs.

Fumas12 Thanks for watching! Let's see how the market develops in the coming years. At the moment it's difficult/impossible to find LEDs for household lighting with very high CRI...

thats what i was going to say about, second and third world countries are still using and will be using them for a long long time.

That's just how everything goes. We're shutting down coal power plants, because they aren't environmental friendly enough, but we ship all the machinery to third world countries so they can run a coal power plant for many years. A recent one that shut down near me had all the machinery shipped to Nigeria.

But the strange thing is that LED-bulbs are almost as cheap as incandescent bulbs on eBay nowadays, and you'll save a lot of money on power by using LED over incandescent.

+PROTOCOL Some of those cheap ebay LED bulbs don't last long enough for the cost. Cheap junk isn't always low cost. I had a couple LED bulbs that didn't make it to their first hour.

+My3dviews Most of our house is using cheap frosted/matte warm white LEDs from eBay, and they've lasted for about 4 years now. Tried several types until I found one that has a incandescent-like color that doesn't flicker. Can't remember the price on them, but I believe I paid $2 each.

we went LED through out, in the low uses rooms more cause daylight leds are so bright and pure a white and we can use higher output bubs than was safe when they were incandescent

I changed my CFLs just beacause of the annoying warming up time, specially if you are just going to be there for 5 minutes but I still have an incandescent one in the staircase that the previous owner left and I wonder how many 100 year old bulbs are we going to have in the future.

I just found out how bad LEDs are for our health. The ban was a terrible idea.

When I built The House of Steel almost 20 years ago, I installed mostly halogens in the high use areas and incandescents in the low use areas. LEDs were far too expensive at that time. The high voltage halogens aren't particularly long-lived, though the low voltage/low wattage ones are still going strong. I replaced three of the 50W sealed downlights with the highest output LEDs available about three years ago. The LEDs were quite dim (and therefore dangerous; they light my kitchen bench) and the first failed after three months so I returned to using sealed halogens. The incandescents lasted longer than 10 years and were definitely the cheapest option. The short lifespan of the LEDs makes them the most expensive by far. Also the highest energy consumption when you realise that their cost is a function of how much embodied energy they represent. The high voltage 200W linear halogens have a lifespan of ~3-12 months. The sealed dichroics about 12 months. All of the supposedly energy-saving bulbs cost me more than the old incandescent bulbs did. CFLs are lasting quite well in the low use areas, but the ones in my home office only last about the same as halogens, 6-12 months. Also the 12 volt devices consume transformers. They rarely last longer than 2 years.

2 years later: I would advise traditional incandescent bulbs for your nightstand or reading light, also for kitchen. LED lighting is not good for your eyes.

For christ sake just google it. You can't expect citation for all comments.

Yep I heard the same thing and I just googled it is true.

Ah, the internet. I know it was posted a year ago. But if you'd asked nicely if this person could provide a link, that would have been a decent way to go about it. Just saying "citation or its a lie" makes you look like a royal asshole and nobody will want to provide anything for you. Seeing this comment is like the internet version of stepping in dog shit.

I'm still waiting for this :( @ge @phillips??

Well all I use is incandescent because I never liked fluorescent , I never liked the compact ones either and I absolutely abhor the LED which make me feel ill .

*you're sorry :c

good thing you corrected him. I wasn't sure in what context he was trying to get across.

*Science Also sorry :(

Less but better quality video than the other way

scientist* XD

6 year so far on my LEDs.

Actually we switched over the LEDs and hated it, so our house is full of incandescent and fluorescent bulbs again

this is cowe

El esta bien, en el video le preguntaron estas ¿Estas bien? Y el se movió.

+Sword depends on the source , if you use a cheap led it will look like crap , but if you buy a good high quality one you will take your words back .

Ikeas ones are also quite warm, but may cost a bit more

Cold white looks terrible in most applications, short of headlights, and interior cabinet or case lighting. It strains the eyes and makes you look like a vampire.

***** 'White light', that is either on the side of cool, or on the side of warm. Natural white is actually very slightly on the side of warm, like sunlight. I am not talking about that yellow orange light like old incandescent bulbs :) Although, that lighting will compliment your complexion.

Philips Hue LED bulbs costs a lot, but they're the best I've seen with a high CRI index and adjustable color temperature.

I slightly disagree :) I'm sitting in a room lit with 4200k CFL's and I really enjoy it: They seem "cold" compared to incandescent or even regular CFL's and slightly warm but close to sunlight with a small shift towards pink during daylight. I have 5500k "photo" type 85W CFL's in my garage and I also like the color there.

Thanks. I spend a lot of time on the voice-overs - nice to hear it isn't a waste of time. Greetings back from Denmark!

+Brainiac75 You can definitely tell the amount of time you spend. It's definitely appreciated. Your voiceovers and videos are great!

Thank you for your support :)

Ponk 80 me too, it's funny

Yeah I just pronounce it Rullepølse

Raffepaffe. Nope, just can't do it.

just say pastrami

LOL, No shit 😆 🇩🇰

Hehe, I also just had to buy it when I found it. Big size still counts :D

Brainiac75 I know right :)

get some youll save a lot of power in the long run.

Nigel Russell Compared to what exactly? A 40W incandescent vs a 40W LED is still 40W of power... The only reason I wanted the 40W LED specifically is for large room/outdoor lighting.

a 40watt incadecent bulb will not out put as much light as a 40w led bulb. as much of the power is converted to heat.

I could see osmium being useful. It's melting point might be a bit lower (3400K instead of 3695K) but it's also a worse conductor (by about 42%), meaning it should help getting the resistance of the wire up, making heating it up easier.

Here in my house, I have two G.E's incandescent bulbs in two different lamps working for more than 15 years!

MrBrander I have a 700 square foot room with high ceilings, how should I light the room. We’re using cfl tubes. I want to switch to a healthier light. What should I do. I would very much appreciate your help.

@@mangomadness8635 get warmer white flourecent tubes

@@mangomadness8635 If you can find them, get regular incandescent bulbs..!

Mexico! That's awesome - welcome aboard and greetings back from Denmark :) Are incandescents banned in Mexico or do you still have the freedom of choosing yourself?

Hi there! Well, here in Mexico most incandescent has been removed from the metropolis, you may still find them in province but never in a supermarket, legally they are yet to be banned. Interestingly enough, you can still find a lot of incandescent with opaque|frosted bulbs, but people dont really buy them anymore and usually prefer halogen ones since LEDs here are about 20x as expensive as a regular and they save important amounts of energy. The industry is slow to change, mostly due cost of products.

Richard Frank Interesting. I wouldn't buy LEDs either if they were 20x as expensive as halogens... In Denmark there's no real difference between the price of incandescent decoration bulbs and similar LEDs. But I am aware that we overpay heavily for the incandescent decoration bulbs :)

I actually went to the local market to take a few pictures on the lightbulbs commonly found here for you to see, probably as common as it gets on any shelf in the world: img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/Fenrir100/IMG_20160911_104749328_zpslt56tc0w.jpg img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/Fenrir100/IMG_20160911_104646205_zpsptxnxaha.jpg img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/Fenrir100/IMG_20160911_104638079_zps26xmjad2.jpg img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/Fenrir100/IMG_20160911_104723620_zpscova66jv.jpg The incandescent decoration bulbs can only be purchased on stores focused only in lightning/decór, and yes, in here they cost as much as a LED indeed, so people either buy halogen or the spiral saving ones, unfortunately, the market of spiral energy-saver bulbs was overflooded with really bad quality products from china, some give as low as 500 hours before failing, in fact the government had to exert temporary bans on these until G&E and Osram (along third parties) could switch production lines locally or import, its kind of easy to tell which one is a knock off or a good one, starting with price, we REALLY dislike chinese produce since for years they have been sending really really REALLY bad products here, some have even been found to contain lead or foreign objects or having its circuits (LEDs) melt and cause a fire. (this is not even only related to tis industry, foods and many other items have been found with issues, specially batteries and ballasts bursting into flames suddenly (explody mcexplodface), when the Safety commission found out they blew a gasket and shut down any lightbulbs's import of any kind from china for almost 2 years (this was 3 years ago). As a result, the prices skyrocketed which delayed the transition greatly, as of now its been normalized but the issue still persist. Fortunately, national production quality have been improving to international levels since the turn of the millennium and nationals are found to be competitive with US brands, but people are waiting for prices to drop, specially in the automotive industry which im quite interested, as Halogen's are being displaced by Xenon and LEDs in a massive take over.

Richard Frank Thanks for sharing. Now I know a little more about the daily life in Mexico :) Not surprised that you also have trouble with very cheap Chinese import... The bulbs look very common. Only thing I noticed as special is the 127 volts. That's not common.

Probably more work than you have done in a while.

I found a website last year and you're up where they are trying to outlaw those horrible LED lights because of how bad they are for people and personally I absolutely hate them and only have and canndescent in my home

@@valerierodger7700 Well, it really depends on which LED light you buy. Incandescent lights usually have a color temperature of 2700K, which doesn't excite your sleep hormones too much. Most LED lights are way above 3000K, but lower options are avaiable.

@@Minecraftminer3000 Yea better off getting warmer colors

Hehe, you're welcome = 'Velbekomme' in Danish :D

Brainiac75 [Google translate] tak. :) ...is that correct? :)

Victor Tran Yes! 'Tak' is Danish for thank you.

Brainiac75 Yay! :D

did you ever think about making a comparision of differenta type of LEDs?

Eko Heriyanto you mean those little compact flouresent lights full of Mercury, that if it gets broke inside you should call hazmat to come clean house because the Mercury vapor spreads throughout the house.

are you using cool LED lights? if so you might want to consider getting the warm vareity

Get the LED Warm white ones... they look Cozy

What about Greta Thunberg's needs? Fuck your eyes, those babies belong to her

@Blind Freddy Leds are flickering, and also blue spectrum light, almost no red light, it doesnt matter what color light you have, warm or cold. I was pioneer in led lights, now Im using classic bulb in my bedroom and workrooms, its a lot healthier, its alot more easy to concentrate and do tiny works under classic bulb

I guess it's not the $ thing that is targeted, but the fact to use less electricity as a lot of it is produced by burning oil or even worse, coal. So there is an "green" thinking in the logic.

I've had the same LED bulbs in my computer room for going on five years now, and instead of needing 120w to light it, I only use 16. Since I'm in here about 35 hours/week, that's 3.64 kwh that I'm not using each week. Even if I stay at tier 1 for my electricity ($.16/kwh), that's about $30/year just for this one room. Over the 5 years I've had them in, it's $150. I guarantee you I didn't pay $75/bulb so, yeah-I'm money ahead. But then, I did the math ahead of time rather than just saying "It won't save money".

Incandescent bulbs require special equipment to evacuate the glass bulbs of air, fill them with special gas, and seal them. Not to mention the specialized equipment to make the filaments. And you'll need to get glass-blowing equipment to make the glass for the bulbs. Get the quality control wrong, and you'll have bulbs that are too dim, too bright, burn out quickly, or explode. It's actually far easier to make LED bulbs. You can just buy the light-producing semiconductors from a supplier, and wire them onto a breadboard with a heat sink, & components from Radio Shack.

I swapped my whole house as soon as i bought it, it's full of old wiring so lowering the loads on circuits is good altogether since the whole upstairs is one circuit which is also part of the basement circuit.

Florescent bulb emit high magnetism but LEDs do not.

yes!!! Always ask "Cui bono?" - "for whose benefit?". If there is a ban, it's never because something is better.

Actually... There is a need to ban the coal fire stoves - They are much cheaper to operate but pollute like crazy!

It's because incandescents are not very profitable and are also beneficial to your health with the "inefficient" portion of energy they put out. Yes the large amount of beneficial infrared that incandescents give out is good for you. These poison energy saving lights have virtually no infrared in them and also lack real red in their spectrum. Frankenstein lights these are. Sunlight, candles and other controlled fires are the light sources humans have been exposed to throughout their existence on Earth. All of these rich in "wasteful" infrared. The best part of all these light sources is the infrared, especially the near infrared.

"one of the thousands of electronic parts" depending on the lamp, the amount of parts can be less than a couple dozen, on large lamps it can probably be well over 200 at most (most of them being LEDs). Also, in theory LED lamps should be able to outlast incandescent bulbs. Yeah in theory. Despite exaggeration your point stands, an LED lamp is supposed to outlast a regular light bulb but that only happens under lab conditions where they are tested in a nice 23°c constant temperature indoors room being powered by high quality power supplies. In the real world you have 10-12°c temperature changes between day and night, more if you use heating or air conditioning, people turn the lights on and off on irregular intervals, the power lines feed crappy quality power to the bulbs and there are tension/voltage spikes and drops. The last ones absolutely kill LED light bulbs, it really deteriorates them a lot, changes in temperature will also stress the internal components into self destruction (specially capacitors, they dont take high temperatures nicely and die off in a couple years at most). A regular lightbulb wins in my opinion, only because its simplicity makes it quite rugged and not only cheaper to make and manufacture, but also cleaner and more ecological since its literally a bit of glass and metal.

+Mylity 66 Is that theory or experience? I've used leds for years now and have never needed to replace any of them, unlike the incandescents I used before. Never did I buy expensive leds, I bought them cheap from discount sales and found that if I pay attention to color temperature and CRI, I'll have cheap leds that are just as fine. I have no doubt I would've paid the same amount for replacing the incandescents by now; these leds are definitely saving me money. Especially the ones I use most, they save enough money on electricity to make it worthwhile within a few months.

Tak - much more to come :D

Jeg er enig med Jensen. Videoens emne er efter min mening vigtigt og relevant, og noget de fleste vil have stor gavn af at lære mere om. Alt for mange køber desværre bare de samme pærer de altid har købt, uden at tænke over energiforbrug eller levetid. Levetiden har jeg oplevet som et godt argument, når jeg har forsøgt at overbevise folk om at købe mere energieffektiv belysning. "Jamen de pærer er jo fem gange dyrere", har jeg mange gange hørt. Men når jeg så forklarer at de holder 10-30 gange længere og derfor i længden er meget billigere, bliver dem jeg taler med ofte overbevist, og begynder alvorligt at kigge på mere energieffektive pærer. For hvis en pære koster 5 gange så meget men holder 30 gange længere, er dens pris - uanset energiforbrug - kun 1/6 i forhold til levetiden. Det sidste kom du desværre ikke så meget ind på i videoen her. Men det var måske værd at tage op i en fremtidig video? Folk elsker jo, hvis de kan spare penge.

It's not illegal to use them, just to sell them

It's like using a fork to eat soup because you don't know spoons yet.

Yeah, put mercury in your hot dogs!

I agree, repeal the ban on murder. The state should not have the power to dictate to you, a free person, what kind of interactions to have.

@@gooscarguitar that's just a roundabout way to ban you from having them. If nobody can sell, that means you can't have

What the heck is an "inconsistent bulb"? One that is yellow one day and red the next??

Thank you President Trump!!!!

Biden just banned them again.

@@jfrphoto01 Sadly Biden just banned them again.

That's true in the winter, but in the summer if you have air conditioning, it will cost you even more to cool your house.

Air conditioning drains power in a way that dwarfs light bulbs.

+Alan Crook because people still build above ground, which is not efficient.

No, because the cost of building anything under ground is 10 times as much as building it above ground

yeah the thought crossed my mind to flip out the CFLs with incandescent every winter however I'm too lazy

Yes, LEDs are worse for the environment in the long run and I've never see any last as long as they claim either. I have some incandescent bulbs in our house are still working after 10-15 years, because they aren't used very often. LEDs will flicker or fade even if you don't use them much. The Biden bulb ban should be reversed.

KGB open up

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Verruckter Schakal Yes, my family and all the people I know eat at a table. Where else do you eat, the toilet?

Akaishi , I eat while sitting on my couch. What kind of dumb ass response is That? On the toilet? Are you a moron?

Verruckter Schakal spills arent too nice on couches.. which is why people eat at tables.

Samster Birdies , spills only happen if you're a careless fuck, I don't spill my food.

I like eating at my computer.

Yes very true Lights that are terrible for keeping all the light up as the ceiling are Fluorescent lights

I agree, and LEDs aren't better for the environment in the long run.

But the heating system in your house is designed to do exactly that-heat your house. It's going to be more efficient putting out the same amount of heat as incandescent bulbs, so it's still a net savings. And if you live somewhere that requires air conditioning in summer, you're not having to run your air conditioner harder to pull out the heat that the incandescent bulbs will produce.

Hell dollar tree has them and they are actually good.

I can only find 93 to 96 CRI.

With all the advantages of LED it's asbolutely ridiculous to use incandescent bulbs anymore.