Light No Fire Is WAY MORE AMBITIOUS Than You Might Think!! 

The ultimate test of open world is that there is something behind waterfalls.

At this point, size doesnt matter in the least to me, content does.

What I am really hoping for is NPCs that feel like living beings, rather than stationary quest dispensers.

Juuuust remember how no man's sky got hyped into oblivion and they had to spend years earning the trust back keep the hype at a manageable level. I'm sure with these guys it's going to be amazing and a pretty solid game but just don't forget to check your hype

No man's Skyrim

I’m gonna build a base in the swamp and call myself shrek

Although I am excited for Light No Fire, I disagree with the whole size argument. Having a big map doesn't make a game more ambitious and map sizes were not the main selling points of Witcher 3 and GTA V, it was that they were filled to the brim with content and stuff to do that made them successful must-haves. Making an engaging story, interesting characters and tie it all together with side-quests, mechanics and content over several kilometers is insanely hard. If we were to go by just size, then Starfield would have been a sounding success, yet it is more than clear that size is a complement, not an element of value.

If the hype and ambition match the actual product this could be a genre defining game. I hope this is the case bc in all honesty free explore open world games are the most fun and rewarding. Fingers crossed

Able to play as a bear?! Duuude i wanna be a bear juggernaut in full plate armor, that would be badass

No point in having a massive world if theres nothing to do in it

I have been waiting for an open game like this for a long time!! I just hope they pull it off.

I just jumped back into No Man's Sky after being away from it for a bit and I have to say they not only proved themselves with the game itself, they continued to put out new material for free. Amazing developer company and I'd throw these guys money for sure for Light No Fire.

After hearing all of that, I have one thing to say : let them cook.

My biggest worry is in fact about the procedural generation. Maybe the templates they're using will be dynamic and varied enough to create things that actually feel unique. I hope so. It doesn't matter if you have a quintillion planets to explore if many of them look near identical.

anyone know if the planet is universally the same map for everyone that will play the game, or each planet is individually procedurally generated? I'd really love if they used procedural generation to create one singular map that everyone "shares" cuz I can already imagine huge communities forming online around this new mountain someone has discovered, or an undiscovered species of plant that is only found in this area of the world. If it's like this, not only will it allow people to experience what it was like to discover things on Earth again (not to mention the very daunting idea of wanting to travel to the other side of the world, or even just a portion in this game), but it would be much more sustainable for the developers and allow them to put in handcrafted details in special areas and even update the map universally for everyone. In the same way we grow fond of smaller maps, everyone could grow fond of an entirely new planet that we all share

Quality, not quantity, people. There's no point having an Earth sized planet that you'll never fully explore, if there's nothing to do. Hopefully Hello Games have learned their lesson from NMS and give us a good game from launch, a reason to explore. Otherwise, it's just numbers. Who cares if there's a mountain as big as Everest if there's nothing gained from climbing it?

Really excited about Light no Fire . Hello games HGames have proven over time that they could overcome the catastrophic situation NMS was in in it's first release months, and came over it to deliver a delightful space RPG . I hope (like it's been said in another comment) that HGames have learned from the mistakes they made With NMS in order to deliver us this gem the right way 👍🏻

I'm hoping that it's just like NMS in terms of single and option of Multiplayer. I don't play MP at all and leave the option off every new save.

This game looks to be the final blow that will kill off Ark and I say, it's about time.

I just hope that you can choose to play offline and singleplayer! I hate the games that force us to play online and force us into multiplayer. it just sucks.

I will need to find a volcanic area and build a large tower with a giant flaming eye.

I think it's safe to say HG have learned a few things since NMS development/launch. This looks promising, let's hope they go for quality as well as quantity.

I'm not usually very interested in games like this, but after playing NMS and seeing the scale and ambition of this game, I'm totally looking forward to this game.

Everest takes 2 months including all the acclimatisation days and waiting for perfect weather. If you just climbed it non stop it’d take about 12-14 days allowing rest time.

Just give me a beautiful waterfall with scenic mountain ranges in the backdrop and I'm happy. If I can tame and ride a dragon, my happiness will be doubled. Please and thank you hello games!

I think the thing that worries me most about Light No Fire is exactly what you said about NMS. How you've seen everything, regardless of the size. How long will it take to start noticing the patterns on this earth-sized game? I think you need a lot of custom-crafted assets to keep that from happening. I'm also a bit worried about the biomes, and will we run into a desert, then snowy, then desert, in 'strips', if that makes sense, or will they be convincing and feel like real places. Will there be seasons where this stuff can change? As far as them messing it up at first, it's likely! Things this ambitious take ironing out, but NMS has been a clear indicator of Hello Games's integrity. I welcome their mistakes and taking the journey with them. Really looking forward to this game! Fun vid.

I have enough faith in Hello Games to say, I will be buying this day one. There aren't many companies left that I would even consider that.

1 planet is perfectly fine with me. That means more detail on a single planet. They have perfected No Mans Sky to the point where they can make Light No Fire a reality.

Seems to be an medieval alternative to how NMS works, perhaps with less mistakes and bringing numerous promises for the curios.

I hope this game doesn’t get as toxic as other online multiplayer survival games.

i really hope there is vr implementation nms in vr is one of the greatest things to do in vr and this would be even better

Hello Games, hello. NMS is BRILLIANT. So, do you honestly think I am going to leave NMS for Light No Fire? Absolutely not, but, TAKE MY MONEY NOW! I want an experience like no other. Give me back my legs through my controller as I explore the new Fantasy Earth. Please continue with the option of No PvP. I will be a loner & I do not want any silly kids trying to KO me while I am trying to enjoy the experience of "FREEDOM". Hello Games, I would like the Gold Edition or the Top & Best Edition on Pre Order Release please.

Game mode doesnt matter in nms no more, you see all bases from every mode

im not sure how they make this be good and not shallow as a puddle. dont get me wrong i want them to nail but i just dont see how given what they have said it should be

It makes me laugh that Bethesda went from Skyrim to Starfield, and Hello Games! are going from No Man's Sky to Light No Fire.

Seems like you could just find your own little corner in a beautiful part of this world and just build. Crazy that the odds of someone stumbling upon your home would be pretty low, even though millions of players could be on the same server. I wonder if everyone will play in the same world? Looking forward to this game, nice vid and hope you keep posting updates 😊

Hello Games we love ya but please don't make this another NMS release situation Edit: No Man's Sky is one of my favorite games of all time, and I will never stop defending Hello Games until my dying breath. But what cannot be ignored, is that they lied to their customers. They made promises, sold those promises for $60, and then didn't deliver. That's bad. Yes they more than made up for it, but you wanna know what's better than making up for a lie? Not lying in the first place! Now with Light No Fire, they're repeating their behavior that the had with No Man's Sky. They're making these huge promises, that sound utterly groundbreaking with our current technology. That's what they did with No Man's Sky, and guess what? It released as a broken mess. There's no guarantee that the same won't happen with Light No Fire. And sure we could just wait for Hello Games to fix it like with NMS, but there's no guarantee of that happening either. People have a right to be angry at getting scammed, because that is what happened. They also have a right to want to avoid getting scammed again. I don't at all think HG was being malicious when they did what they did with NMS, and they definitely made up for it, but you can't keep making a mistake and make up for it over and over. Eventually you gotta learn and stop making the mistake in the first place. Edit 2: Why do you guys think that Hello Games is above criticism just because they made a good game? They're a corporation, and like all corporations they need to be held accountable. I'm not some rando who doesn't know anything about NMS, I've been here since 2016. It's not sacrilege to criticize people who made a mistake. We're spending our hard-earned money on their games, the least the can do is be honest about what they're delivering. What happens if LNF comes out a broken mess, just like NMS? Will you still defend it then? What if HG decides not to put as much work into fixing it because they know their fans will defend them regardless? Will you still defend it then? This whole idea that you can't dare criticize Hello Games is the progenitor of what's happening with Bethesda, or Ubisoft, or Activision. Those AAA studios put out garbage because they know they have fans who will still play it regardless. If we stay on the road we're on now with Hello Games, that's where we'll end up.

The reason this concept sounds so nice to me is because, as much as I love no man’s sky, it is just *way* too big for there to be any sort of meaningful content in large quantities. The reason that maps in games are generally on a smaller scale is because the game devs have to look at every square foot of space and put things there intentionally, whether it be foliage or an NPC or a house. You can only expect humans to be able to handcraft so many square miles of map. In NMS, there’s way too much space to be handcrafted with any sort of interesting intention. But… a single, earth sized map with the procedural generation tech that they have? And with the mobs, minerals, and flora (probably mostly) predesigned? That’s more doable than 16 quintillion planets or whatever the number is. Though, some part of me does hope that once they figure out how to incorporate many different biomes on a singular planet, they can bring that over to NMS as well. I do also really hope that we’ll find flora and fauna in the appropriate areas instead of just scattered in all the biomes. I don’t want to see camels in the jungle and the desert and the tundra.

Can't wait for Sean Murray to deliver his promised features for this game in 10 years 😄

Thanks for putting the scale in perspective, this is indeed going to be an ambitious game! I’m very excited to see it fully revealed and to explore the planet. I would say though, expecting no bugs is setting your hopes too high. It’s nearly impossible to ship a game of this caliber without having a few bugs discovered once a large number of people start playing. Hopefully it will have as few bugs as possible though! 😁👍

It sounds pretty neat. Honestly, when i first heard of it, I immediately thought of Wurm Online. Most people haven't heard of it, but it is an MMO where players work together on large islands to fully terraform the land, farm mine and craft, and fight monsters. Wurm Online definitely feels its age. (I think the release was around 2011) So Im looking forward to a big community world. (I do hope Light No Fire has a single-player mode, however, as Im sure it will get frustrating fast when people start hoarding territories, and there is no where fun to build or explore.)

Super excited for its release. I am not worried about bugs, as Hello games have proven they will not only make all wrongs right, but will go over and above in the months and years that follow.

And every single NMS player will be downloading and logging in on day one of release lmao

"Certainly wont contain as much content as Light no Fire" Be careful what you say. Never count your chickens before theyve hatch.

One thing that I RELIGOUSLY ask for in open world games is for free multiplayer servers that aren't public. Like a private Ark or Rust server, but free and in the game.

I hope there is a creative mode because I don’t care too much about survival elements or at least give me options to tone down the survival elements.

Great video! This game does look like it's going to be exciting! I'm pretty confident Hello Games won't take the risk of releasing a flop again. So this game should be amazing from launch whenever that may be.

The amount of effort put into No Mans Sky by the developer post release is incredible They deserve to be successful as they really stepped up. I am not a shill just a gamer who appreciates a developer who stands by their game. And nobody can say NMS is lacking content

I am playing No Man's Sky now and LOVING it, but I would REALLY love a game with one single planet, that is massive. Regardless of if it's technically smaller, its massive enough to where we will never traverse the whole planet. I just hope it is packed with content, and I will love it. Obviously they will bring big updates like they did with NMS, so I am really excited to see how this project does.

Hoping there’s a consistent 1000+ player server where we will start seeing castles and factions and such

I flew around the world from Miami to Miami in flight sim 2020 using a Beechcraft King Air at roughly 300 mph on average, and that took FOREVER to accomplish.... I seriously can't wait to circumnavigate this map on foot

I am more confident in Light no fire because they faced lot of issues in No Man’s Sky and they would apply those lessons learned in their new game

procedural worlds are tough... i hope there are at least dungeons, parts of environments or cities that are hand crafted and feel special to find

3:40 yea but despite those maps being 'small' they are hand crafted, a large map means nothing if there isn't anything in it to explore.

Great video, fantastic info! Question though, by the description of "the first true open world" in the first minute of the video, how is the first true open world not Minecraft?

If they actually deliver on their promises for this game, make the combat feel good (hoping they take from games like Dragon's Dogma, Elden Ring, or Monster Hunter for combat inspiration), and create significantly more interesting quests then NMS, then this might be able to become one of my favorite game of all time.

I really hope there would be a magic system of somekind. Useful and customizable magic would be an instant sell for me.

They got the perfect formula for procedural generation. No mans sky gets those tasty updates till today and new stuff. Making own ships? Still dreaming of own space stations on empty systems and make it more populated again. But well. This is why i think this game will shine. All we had in no mans sky but now on a single planet and my favorite style of games, phantasy.

I hope they pull it off because I'm planning something similar to this but not as small as Light no Fire!

We need more underwater content in no man’s sky’s. I hope there is more underwater stuff in light no fire!

It's a neat concept and some ok technologies. I hopebthe team at Hello Games can find ways of creating activities in large game areas. Having large areas to play in but having little content is a problem many game designs are currently facing.

I have never felt older than the reply (rant?) I had originally written 😂 I'm excited 🙌 If Hello Games have learned anything it would be to match what's being offered, at least

hello games is the last great game developer out there. no other team has accomplished what they have and actually gave love to the game they created. they believed in themselves and the fanbase and delivered more than what was deserved or expected. do i want more from the game? yes so so much more but do i need it? no because they bounced back and gave us more than we needed

I can't wait to play it 5 years after launch when it's good

“It’s not the size that counts, it’s how you use it!” -Prince John, Robin Hood: Men In Tights

Damn, didn’t know what to expect from them but a real sized playable earth sounds just like what they would pull off.

I'm going to find a mountain piercing the very clouds and build a large temple.

Honestly, if they pull this off could say they could be a top contender to making an amazing mmorpg game that would compete with games like WOW, ESO and more. I think they have the engine, the skill and what not to create an amazing mmorpg game. With all the traditional game play elements we all enjoy in mmorpg's like bossings, dungeons, raids, pvp, world vs world, arena ect.

For me the most important part is varied and unique enemies. Seeing the same buildings or terrain is something I can get past. But fighting the same enemies over and over. Or enemies that visually look diferent but just attack the same makes me get bored rather quickly. I hope they take their time. I'd wait till 2028-30 for a game of this caliber

let's just hope combat is not clunky like in nms

No mans sky is the only game ive ever pre-ordered and i did so knowing it would be incomplete. It was an investment. Light no fire will be the second game i preorder, because they didnt let me down.

I hope they dumb down the survival elements, no man’s sky was too confusing when it came too what you need, but with the medieval theme I’ll guess that it will be much less needy of weird sounding materials

I have one very important requirement for this game. I need to be able to play as a lizard wizard.

And lets say that in a future expansion, we could travel in space to nearby planets and colonise them!

I have more faith in Hello than most AAA studios, so I'll definitely be picking this up at release.

I wanna build a base on the top of a peak of a mountain range, and be a sage who gives wisdom to those seeking it, would be so damn cool to rp in an actual world like this, i hope it lives up to its expectations.

There's so much more they could actually do with NMS... makes me wonder, how good could LNF actually be. Think we've all had enough of buying games and ending up with pretty scenery and no game depth or variety in the games.

This and MHW are my 2 biggest anticipated games that I'm sure illplay for years and years

I saw a few boats on the lakes in the trailer I hope giant oceans are in this world so that we could have long boat trips and maybe even underwater stuff like underwater kingdoms or leviathans.

There’s no doubt my excitement for this game, I love how hellogames fixed and still put a lot of labor of love into no mans sky. Unfortunately after their launch along with every other messy launch’s from other game releases, it’s safe to say I’m gonna wait a couple of weeks to see if the game is good first before I make another purchase lol.

My actual main concern with Light no Fire is that it feels empty because the system doesn't actually react to you. The world should react to players in a sandbox, if it doesn't it will just feel like a boring open world sandbox and nothing else. This is the same issues Space Engineers, Minecraft, Creativerse, and even no man sky have. The world doesn't really react to you, which makes it feel dead and shallow. However a game like Kenshi, that world reacts to you, the game changes based on what the player is doing, however the game also changes because NPC's are also doing things even if you aren't around. I love what Sandbox games have done, however they need that next step to really bring in people into these massive worlds. They need a way to really anchor players and their actions. In Light No Fires case, if you got enough players together NPC's could start building in the area as well. Players could potentially form actual kingdoms this way, making the world truely feel alive. Take it a step further, groups coming into conflict we could see the NPC's also coming into conflict showing in game ramifications. So much you could do with a system like that in this kind of game.

Hello games is such a beautiful company. No man’s sky started out just like this and you know what look at every single update that they put in they’re still putting updates in they have put and poured so much love into this game that it is keeping it relevant and it’s only getting better.

Definitely something to keep an eye on, I believe. I've learned my lesson, from No Man's Sky and other games, not to just buy into the blind hype train, but the concept, if nothing else, is nice. We'll see.

Imma buy this regardless of initial disappointment, they will make it good hopefully

I was sold on being able to play as an otter

Im definitely making one of those rabbit race characters and naming it "Basil Stag Hare", going to be going full Redwall in this game

There are more animal PC options than you mention. Look carefully at each frame. In the trailer we see: Human, Satyr, Faun, Cernunnos (humanoid with antlers), Rabbit, Polar Bear, Otter, Parrot (something bird like underwater), Fox, Cat, Badger, Groundhog (brown and smaller than badger), and those are just what I see in the trailer. Also there are rivers which NMS doesn't have!

Can’t wait for the first around the world in 80 days race in game

Very excited for this release.. if they can deliver

Imagine they don't tell us, this is just a planet in NMS and you are also able to travel in Space and become a new species in the NMS Universe, if you find a way to leave the planet. 🤯

I will wait for this one. It might actually replace ARK SE for me.

If I can't be a skeleton I'll riot. I wanna be a magical skeleton and I'll build a tower atop the spookiest mountain.

I really believe that NMS was the platform Light No Fire mechanics were tested on. Hopefully the trailer was really actually game footage and not cinematic fluff. I think the Hello Games team learned from NMS release not to say anything about Light No Fire to garner any type of speculation that they never mentioned. Everything I heard was other people's speculation. So I'm waiting for the release info from then. Period. I did appreciate your observations of the trailer and will keep it just as that... Observation. Thanks for posting.

i only liked the video due to the enthusiastic "dragons!" XD

Let Sean do his thing, we believe.

I think we can draw a lot of comparisons between Light no Fire and Hytale (If you don't know what Hytale is, go look it up). They are both randomly generated, open world sandboxes with fantasy elements and multiplayer. However, Hytale draws inspiration from Minecraft, especially in the fact that it's made of blocks. In my opinion blocks are the best for building, because it allows the world to be fully destructible. Hytale is also made with modding in mind, which means a theoretically infinite amount of content. Also, Hytale has funding from Riot games, meaning they (probably?) have all the resources they need to pull off their ambitions. As you can tell, I'm pretty biased towards Hytale, and I do think it will be a better game overall, but I think Light no Fire is a very commendable idea and effort, and I hope it succeeds. Good luck Hello Games :D

What I'm hoping for this game is that they don't make thing too convenient. I mean in terms of travel and resource gathering, which was something that bothered me a little in No Man's Sky. Going to any planet in the galaxy was a little too convenient with the portal system, and almost any resource was easy to find in whatever direction you went. This all made the galaxy feel homogenous and even small. This is not to say that there should be no form of fast travel in the game and that you have to travel by foot or by mount at all times, but I think there is a balance to be struck between no fast travel and too convenient fast travel.

2 things that will make this game for me if added/achieved: 1. Biodiversity is going to make the world feel like... A world. 2. I think real life seasons and weather would make this game something people return to throughout the year. (ie, imagine needing to prep for a winter season, or a heat wave, but but also not feeling rushed because it is still a couple months off)

Don’t hold your breath, we’ve been here before, took 10 years to finally get the game we were promised..

I hope the servers don’t wipe bc just imagine someone building a shack and other people start building near by hopefully with enough time it could become a lively city.