Lil Cease on Seeing 2Pac Shot, Shooters Pointed Guns at Him, Telling Biggie What happened (Part 12) 

because the true events cant and never will change. people for some reason think inventing stories on spot is a great idea lol

They changed the stories like 100 times. Pac came upstairs and he saw all of them in the studio.

So the fuck what…people acting like liars cant keep the same story for a life time…people have done it…I’m not saying he’s lying but pointing out that his story didn’t change doesn’t mean anything

ppl from ny are excellent, and very detailed storytellers...they literally paint a picture

if you tell yourself you believe a lie for so long, it becomes your reality.

@Timmy Ggz tv facts bro love pac but he fucked biggie life up after that knowing big had nothing to do with that

Big facts 💯

No such thing as if night ain’t happened especially when it’s something totally out his your control

@@thoughtstalktv15 Thats what people fail to realize. You may not be on shit but thats doesn't mean the next man isn't.

I somewhat agree, But Allah is the best of planners brother 💙🙏🏾❤🤲🏾

It was a setup, lil cease and nino had nothing to do with it. Whoever was there to rob 2 pac they knew he was coming. Big question is why ain’t they rob lil cease and nino too when the robbers saw them

@Mr Happy Folger they ran in the same circles but those guys were really in the street and big/puff weren’t strong enough yet to go against them so pac basically got left on his own. But he was warned about hanging around those dudes and he named a few of them in a vibe article discussing the rape incident so that’s why they robbed him. If it happened a few years later when bad boy was stronger they probably would have been able to help pac but maybe then not even.

@Mr Happy Folger Biggie introduced 2Pac to them but that doesn’t necessarily mean he had anything to do with it people like to try and make it seem like he set that man but they never have a reason as to why he could’ve done it… goofy shit🤦🏾‍♂️ it wouldn’t even make sense motherfuckers just like to make up shit RIP to the two goats

@@taichisavage true indeed

@@taichisavage Jimmy henchmen, he said what was supposed to happen in his own words, nobody was supposed to get shot ...just like a warning because tupac didn't come thru for an album song

But if they were responsible of course they would never admit it, as it was this event that created the downward spiral that lead to the death of both Tupac & Biggie.

Plus why would the gunmen tell the two witnesses in the elevator to go back upstairs where they could just call police or get security or come back down with a small army & start a war in the lobby? At the very least you would be robbing them mf's too.

​​@@benji187nah bro i have a feeling biggie must have known the NY thugs pac was cool with and robbed him that night but that😊 dont mean he set pac up if he did cease would have changed his story many times without acknowledging the mistakes a liar tells the story 3 different ways an honest person always keeps the same story straight bro its always been like that just look at their actual murders pacs killer's uncle who was in the same car that shot pac til this day changes up his story and folks around him that actually associate with him have exposed him for lying about pacs shooting the day of his death when we all know lapd and vegas pd know more about pacs death than they want the public to know 🤦🏾🤦🏾

@@benji187are you slow? Jimmy set pac up to get robbed not to get shot or killed pac only got shot cause he refused and pull his gun. The person pac was with didn’t get shot either. The hit was for pac why would they shoot the others.

Maybe not millions, but I bet Vlad paid up at least in the thousands.

@@hiphopjewels Vlad aint pay him nothin lol

millions? u high buddy

@@tyreesneed You don’t know, cause none of us do.

For what? He's spoken about this a thousand times and has given a thousand versions.

Absolutely... It's unfortunate things like that still happens...

Seemed to be more than a misunderstanding. I feel like someone set that whole beef up, might not have been Pac and Big, maybe it wasn't even Suge and Puff...but somebody had their hand in that whole situation.

@@KrisAmos nah, from all the stories I heard it seems the situation was just on some wrong place wrong time type shit

They ain’t stupid enough to set Pac up and be there. They had no beef what so ever at that point. Pac was mad as he should and was on some fuck everyone stuff. I think feds got to an inmate and instigated the that’s Biggie’s homeboy. Biggie knew of Haitian Jack like everyone did. But Biggie definitely had control over him and told Pac be careful he’s no good. Pac wanted Big to protect him but Big ain’t a shot caller like that. Yea Pac got a great heart and would lookout for east coast friends in Cali though.

@@kig4794 But why is there a relationship between Eazy-E's and 2pac's death (check FBI investigation report)?

He was actually 17...I thought something didn't add up when he said he was 15 cos I knew he had a 5 year age gap with Biggie, not that it changes anything of course...still messed up situation

Y'all was not there stfu

It isn't really that crazy, considering that scene was possibly ur first frame of reference to this story and the real life version is actually being spoken about now.

​@@d2dar459 the streets of NYC were talking about the studio shooting for years, man. We knew Cease's story from the beginning cause that's how it actually went down. When Pac blamed big and Puff for that shooting everyone was confused cause it made no sense. Now we know Suge and them Pirus were in his ear cause puffy was associating with Crips.

@@antde2001 Right. But I'm not sure why ur telling me this?

@@d2dar459 just saying the film might not be everyone's first frame of reference.

@antde2001 Ah, right. Fair enough. I made the assumption that it was the OP's frame of reference because the elevator scene from 'Notorious' *never* pops up in my head when this comes up. My mind goes to the news articles, Pac checking out to go court, etc.

87 baby right here we 80s babies was born at the right time

@@money345atherley2 trust me💯

82 here...

82 for me

1983

That’s so true, it’s a fact. Such a shitty and unfortunate night that day in late 1994. It costs us many good rappers and wise OGs.

They lived that life. Claimed to live by the sword and then died by it.

Right if pac don’t get robbed/shot then there wouldn’t been beef between him n biggie…. He would still have went to jail but maybe it would have been big putting up his bail money and not suge……sadly all these what ifs we’ll never know but damn can you imagine pac n Big killing the rap game together

@@user-sz6kp1tn6c 🤦🏾‍♂️

@@user-sz6kp1tn6c oh GOD here u fuckin go lol 😂 stretch was even talking about how when he got shot in his head, his timberland boots clapped together and then he fell then they started pistol whippin him and takin his jewelry. If u research you will, check this out, ✨find✨

@@user-sz6kp1tn6c Pac was hiding out at jasmine guy’s house and the outlawz seen him when he was trying to recover. Bandaged up and limping.

Pac got shot for running his mouth to the ny newspaper.. dissing the real ny gangsters for extorting rappers..ny gangsters was only gonna rob him for talking too much..

Facts

No it hasn't been. Y'all say Gene tells the truth yet he called Cease a liar.

@@willt8848 gene is seeking attention and RU-vid money Cease is always happy to talk about big. Big difference

@@josephkanu2778 Cease hasn't been consistent. As I said he lied in the Maino interview. I don't trust none of them.

The whole story is a joke. Even the headline doesn't make sense. Someone other than me put it best: Pac never claimed Biggie set him up. He claimed Biggie knew something and didn't say. Nothing about Cease story addresses the actual accusation Pac made. This argument is with a straw man. The argument with Pac was about whether Biggie knew something and kept it to himself, or if he actually had no idea what was about to happen. Concievably, if he did know that people way above his pay grade were making moves on Pac, he wouldn't tell everyone and their mother that he was gonna fuck his best friend over to save his own ass from repercussion. So somebody like Cease wouldn't neccessarily know whether Biggie knew or not, unless Biggie decided to not only fuck his friend over, but also be 100% open to his other friends about being a two faced bitch. Just think about it for a second. So while that "theory" doesn't prove Biggie's guilt, this Cease recollection of events also does not prove Biggie's innocence. And then, there's like another 30 perspectives to base a judgment on and nobody that thinks Biggie might have known think so just beacuse Pac said so. It is the combination of Pac accusing Biggie, the rap sheet and history of "Haitian" Jack and King Tut, and other circumstances happening at the time that make things seem less than clear as day. If Cease never knew shit about shit, the fact of his story never changing signifies fuck all, basically.

Lies.. Go back and read those vibe interviews

So u believe 100% of what he say 😂

@@Marlo_189 yep

I Believe Big n Cease and The Live Squad

@@Marlo_189 Can you tellthe same lie 30 times or more in a row.I mean,verbatim?lol.

Exactly! If I'm saying im king of a city I should know or find out something never said big set him up

Agreed..the part about big going down and felt comfortable leaving and they so shook they stayed…the devils in the details

all Biggie did kno he warned tupac about...Pac even admitted that... Pac chose to continue running wit those grimey guys from Brooklyn and in the end they booked him...thats what happens...then he went to LA and pretty much did the same nonsense only that time he didnt make it....i love Tupac as an artist..he was absolutely brilliant...However unfortunately as a grown man now i can see he was jus a troubled lost soul making a lot of mistakes and it costed him his life thats all that happened.. and it happens in the hood every day...if i didn't have the father and the parents i had it would have happened to me...i had plenty of friends growing up who didn't have the right support system and ended up exactly like Pac

@@wreckteamtex4460 I also heard Mike Tyson warned Pac as well. We all know Pac aight never listened to no one!

@@wreckteamtex4460 Biggie didn't want to go to LA.puffy insisted and since big had to finish his project doing the video and gene deal the bodyguard said Biggie just came from London tour and didn't want to go do the Vibe party but was obligated .

Admiration

The whole left has been decompartmentalized and the elves and Alex jones and Eddie bravo and the flat earthers have collided

@fuckyocouchnigga sure if you want tosmoke meth..

LOL Get off pac's dead nuts

@@jonathanjohnson9611 Ok Mother

Amen! Every single time I hear anything about the two of them my heart breaks. I remember where & what I was doing when the news broke about each of them & I will never forget it! They truly were legends & will always be! I hope Diddy hooks Cease up period. That’s my only concern is keeping Bigs mom & Cease comfortable.

How did the robbers know Tupac would be entering the studio? Sounds like they were waiting.

@@Zigzagzebulon that’s streets and Haitian Jack and them wanting to violate after disrespect from Pac. Wrong place at the wrong time

Eye's Neva Lie FACTS 💯

@Terence Johunkin he’s just repeating lines he heard blindly. “Numbers don’t lie” actually numbers are big liars, well used to deceive

😄😃😇🙂😃😇🙂🙂😇😃😃😇😃😃

@Terence Johunkin bruh, trained? Not even, I lied to the fbi before. Stg. Imagine “your honor, you must grant a mistrial, eyes don’t lie!”..this guy

Caught that...

Ever hear pac side of the story ?

@@madmanx58 Yes I did.

Yeah there’s no cap in him 🤘🏼🔥♾💯

Cease is the only person in the world that was there when both BIG got shot and he was there when 2pac got shot.

True but as a friend. If im telling you to stay out a certain circles and you dont listen come on man. Big knew he wasnt a gangster and Pac isnt one either. You going to get mad at Big when you know who did it. He said it himself he knew.

Pac was a toxic friendship for Biggie We all had at least one friend family or associate etc that find their way in your life and screw ur shit up Lol I been there you wish u could go back to the day you met and say “nah I’m good”

@@BigGfromgrouphome Exactly plus BIG wasn't going to snitch and BIG lived/is from Brooklyn. He looked at it like I warned you about these goons and you didn't listen. I'm not getting involved because I'm from here and the same way they did you in they could do me in. Pac had a very big mouth and was acting gangsta when he was soft as butter lefted out overnight. As anybody would do, you not gonna get me involved in your b.s when you don't even live in Brooklyn and leave me with your mess while you don't live here or live out of state. I was 17 at the time this happened and from Brooklyn, NY ( RedHook ) where the video that got shot up that Snoop was filming. That happened 3 blocks from where I live. Pack and BIG we're cool associates but they were not best friends.

@@JoyOfJessy you do realize 2pac was born in NY east Harlem right? And didn't move to Baltimore till he was 14. He used too have a rap/stage name mc new york

@@chetatkins8156 I do know and you answered your own question, he moved when he was 14 so like I said he didn’t live in Brooklyn and Harlem is in Manhattan and Brooklyn is a whole different borough. So again what was the point of this information? I’m woman who is in her mid 40s and I’m very versed on Pac and Biggie.

Tupac had enemies coming after him so he was paranoid can’t go to sleep thinking somebody was going after him he was trying to figure out who set him up to get rob and killed but nobody know anything 🤔🤔

Ain't no mystery. Jimmy Henchmen set him up bc he was disrespecting Haitian Jack. Pac called em out on Against All Odds

Jimmy henchman had Pac robbed

I don’t understand how Pac felt at all.

@@desertdetroiter428 that’s cause u never been shot or “potentially”set up by your homie

You do know that they did record a track together? “Runnin'". I’m talking about the original version from 1994/95, not the Eminem remix. It’s Pac, B.I.G., Stretch and a couple of the Outlawz (Dramacydal, at that time)

@@RobertA-ej4tz Also house of pain and let's get it on.

@@2217251 I can’t believe I totally forgot about those. Haven’t heard them in literally years. Thanks! Now I know what I’ll listen to the rest of the night. Haha

Please don’t say it would have been “lit” 🤮

They did 3 songs together..."Running" OG..it's 2 different Pac verses on those,...."Let's get it on"..with Grand Puba & Heavy D...Also House of Pain.

@@TheShadow84 not enough

@@BreezyXVIII never heard of Puffy visiting 2Pac in jail... ever!

Nah rap wouldn’t be the same without who shot ya and hit em Up

Ty

PAC never said big or junior mafia did it the issue was that was silent n wouldn’t say who did it

@@altovinestephens4855 yep that’s what it was but I mean come on he was warned also. And if big told him who shot him was he gone protect big from getting killed ?

@@altovinestephens4855 nah... Pac knew it was Jack. He just felt like all that was going on he couldn't trust Big cause he thought Big and Puff was supposed to show him some more love cause that's what Pac would do. At the same time Pac was going through his rape case and then conviction. It's like he was getting hit from all sides and said fuck everybody

He was already on his way to Quad.

@@user-jg4ci4mf8w Yeah but 1 would think in a state of paranoia that the robbers are by the elevator "when I yell Pac what's up...!" that's the guy to rob. Then Jimmy Henchman was in the same building...? After that the rape Charge had Haitian Jack involved and Haitian got pulled away from Pac's trial magically leaving Pac to catch all the Hell by himself 😐??? then bad boy left their guns in that apartment and didn't claimed them to reduce Pac's charges which added to the set up theory...??? 🤔 Bra, anyone in the right mind is going to think it was a set up and it makes a lot of sense if it was.

Had a big mouth too

2 questions: who are "they" and are you smoking crack?

@@beatnuts1uk suge knight and diddy

@@beatnuts1uk 🤣🤣🤣 bruh I’ve been trying to figure who is “they” til this day

Tupac wasn't signed to suge at the time

Pac would've got fruityy on biggie

The truth is Jimmy sent big dex n em nuccaz to rob and smack pac but he resisted and they shot him. Big had nothing to do with it. This is old news

Man!! so many stories floatin around!

@@dominicbrogsdale3348 one story been consistent from DAY 1 and that’s Henchman.

@@jnicemint ok I need to look that up and here is thanks bro

Cease not lying though...other people who was there confirmed his story. Even Pac people who got robbed with him. Zaid said Cease was Scared to death on that elevator and kept trying to close the door...

!!!!!!! Yooo

You right. I knew too Pimp

Pac lied on BIG BIG died for nothing

@@jermainehnbhwalls822 Big worship the Devil....

@@shawnsmith2540 wtf you even talking about? BIG was real pac wasn’t and couldn’t fuck with Biggies flows.

@@hawaii5-084 Are you high. 😂

Cease is the only person in the world that was there when both BIG got shot and he was there when 2pac got shot.

Bullshit, nobody was thinking about Pac when that song dropped.

@@gbrazor actually everybody was thinking about Pac. Imagine you get shot in the same building as your homeboy. And then your homeboy drops an anonymous diss called WHO SHOT YA. You'd be pissed too. Even if it aint got nothing to do with it, bad timing.

Pac had already accused niggas of setting him up that night He was paranoid and probably bipolar

@@koffinradio Nobody said a damn thing about that until Pac said that in the Vibe article. If we go by your logic, from that point on, Biggie could never drop a gun bar again, because Pac and his fan boys are going to take it as a slight against Pac.

Pac got killed by some gang bangers, and BIG got killed in Los Angeles🤔

This interviewer is SO mediocre 😐👎 I can't believe he'd pull for Cease to tell that age old story uhhh-gin 🙄 I'd be willing to bet that most of us were telling the story with him while we listened..it's like lyrics to an old song at this point 💯

@@thinkforward8752 😆😆😆

Cease is the only person in the world that was there when both BIG got shot and he was there when 2pac got shot.

@@joebidens_touchyhands9477 makes you wonder 🤔

Yo big warned PAC about Haitian jack

He might as well have, Big still lost his life from Pac’s paranoia.

He was upset that big didn’t wanna tell him who did it, afterwards

Pac fans always believe everything he said, whether it made sense or not. They will always rationalise his paranoia and recklessness. According to Pac himself, Big warned him to stay away from his shooters, he didn't listen. After learning the hard way, he blames Big for not telling him 🤦🏾‍♂️

I think Big knew. If Big didn't know how could he warn him of anything? Pac said he asked by why he shouldn't hang with dudes and Big said "I'll tell you later" Later never came and Pac was shot. You see that looks?

He also witnessed the truth when he stepped out the elevator with guns pointed at him.

Stop repeating that horse 💩 Nonsense

@@Synchronite Jimmy and Jack wasn’t extorting NY rappers and their labels? Didn’t Big so call “warn” Tupac about hanging with Jack? If he was clueless then why try to warn Pac? This shit is well documented, by PAC HIMSELF, and amongst others in fact. All this info out here and people still want to make up their own version of these events…lol….lame ass phuck boys

Who is Jimmy Henchman and what's his connection to haitian jack and extorting bad boy?

@@GMCworldwide1979 Quote someone besides Tupac saying Henchmen and Jack were extorting Bad Boy

You have a lot of catching up to do nobody got time to give you the run down

Tupac wanted biggie to take the blame so that the reason of him getting blasted by punk niggaz like jack n em would not be so bitch made. Who wanted to be known as the person who got bitch by an extortionist. Also after he got locked up and suge bailed him out why not put the blame on bad boy since suge and puff had beef anyways.

This story has nothing to do with Pac dying tho

Sorry bro but kids younger than see shit every day and they keep moving at the end of the day PUFFY KNEW BIGGIE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN IN CALI TOO SOON AFTER PAC

That’s what it is. Cause I don’t see why he had biggie in his mouth so much. He was jealous..

Right, makes me wonder, was that story fabricated. ?, I never heard anyone else that was in that studio tell it.

@@DjDeadHomie I think cease story fabricated. The eyes & posture don't lie. Cease not being genuine on this one.

@@DjDeadHomie For all yall sayin lil cease lyin its been 25 years of people sayin i set this dude up. Ummmm id be tight too. The real interview needs to happen is lil shawn the nigga who pac came to see bc he knew he was comin and admitted to knowin

I dont think he was on that floor with them at that time. Biggie and Cease waa on a different floor than where Pac was going.

@@kernelcoleman8195 He's not lying, the other people who was there with Pac confirms his story. Plus what he's saying makes sense. Anyone with any Street sense know, why be around if you're gonna be involved in a set up and send your boys to walk into it...Plus the all out story doesn't make sense. It was no reason for Biggie and Cease to know what was going on. No older Street dudes gonna tell young Rappers they're about to Rob someone and they better not say anything...Don't make sense

Tupac turned them against each other

😂🤣😂

Actually he was 6'8

Lol Word..

Cease is roughly 5'6, .seen him a few times

Less than 1% of males are 6’4 and around 20% are 6 ft

I dunno, man. I mean, Pac is in their part of town, rolling with them and has problems with gangsters who are loosely affiliated with them. And at a studio which apparently was well frequented by lots of east coast artists at the time, where *wouldnt* u run into them?

​@@d2dar459 pac said the robbers waited for him, one peeked over a newspaper tben kept reading...but Gene deal finally cleared it up

Absolutely.. Str8 FACTS

It won't end until Notorious Big Murder is SOLVED

Like tupac needed publicity through biggie. PAC was giving biggie publicity allowing him to do his thing at his shows.

I agree with what you said…BUT….biggie knew who did it and where it came from and didn’t tell pac, so, he got bombed on, which is fair!

No he blamed them because you the king of New York but you don’t know who shot me or you can’t find out

No such thing as a "simple robbery" when you're the victim.

Cease is the only person in the world that was there when both BIG got shot and he was there when 2pac got shot.

Cease is the only person in the world that was there when both BIG got shot and he was there when 2pac got shot.