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Lilith in the 4th house - Shunned by your Family 

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@ScarletVolkov
@ScarletVolkov 2 года назад
💯 I was neglected by both parents my entire life! Growing up with the rejection/neglect, I attracted a lot of narcissists in my life, which only fed the lack of my self worth or even a sense of self. I’m now 46 and have finally begun the healing process. Thank you for all the content! ✨💚
@SaffronSageAstrology
@SaffronSageAstrology 2 года назад
It takes time to heal these things. Sometimes it can be years before a person learns that their experience wasn’t typical.
@grobbiesm
@grobbiesm 2 года назад
I feel you Stacey, very similar in my life. Healing these wounds in my forties now and leaving victimhood behind. Much love x
@LBoogie88
@LBoogie88 Год назад
Definitely accurate. I have Lilith in Leo in the 4th house. I am now estranged from my parents and basically most of my family. They were abusive. Healing from a such a toxic childhood is tough. To know that astrology is literally saying this about me is mind blowing and its why I can't stop going down the Astrology Rabbit Hole.
@JamesDean-O
@JamesDean-O 8 месяцев назад
On point!! My dad didn’t want any more kids after they had my sister in fact he was ready to leave my mother but she persisted in talking him into giving her one more child, me! The outcast.
@gicort92
@gicort92 2 года назад
Lilith in the 4th house in the sign of Aquarius 😬 I've always been seen as the rebellious one in the family for not wanting to follow what they expected of me. I need freedom, my moon in Saggitarius begs for it 😂 With Leo in mercury and in quiron, both in the 10th house, psychoterapy is helping me a lot to be who I truly am without feeling guilty or needing the approval of others. It might sound weird, but as much as I need freedom and expression of who I am, deep down I'm afraid to be rejected. Astrology, spirituality and psychotherapy have been extremely helpful to me. I'm grateful for them.
@bamaboitube8572
@bamaboitube8572 2 года назад
I also have my Lilith In Aquarius in the 4th house it’s crazy lol
@AstroASMRzz
@AstroASMRzz 2 года назад
Wow my chart is literally the same as you! My Lilith is in 4th and I also have a Leo mars and Leo Mercury Leo sun all in the 10th house and I’m a Sagittarius moon too 😊
@sashavictoria2405
@sashavictoria2405 Год назад
Omg same!!!! Crazy I’m a moon Sagittarius also and Sun ☀️🥹 I felt this comment
@HealWeGoAgain
@HealWeGoAgain Год назад
I also have 4th house Lilith in Aquarius with a Sag moon. I've always been an 'against the grain' type person and I love that about myself (I'm a Gemini sun btw). My childhood was pretty crappy to say the least and it's the most shameful aspect of my existence, and definitely my darkest shadow side.
@bamaboitube8572
@bamaboitube8572 Год назад
There's nothing crazy about what you said everyone is afraid of being rejected
@anushaupadhyay7619
@anushaupadhyay7619 2 года назад
True! I was told to sit, eat, talk politely, sweetly like a women and dress like a women...and yeah! I was always attracted to military, fighting, shooting, or anything like that and my father whose mindset was like girls don't do this...these stuff is for boys not for girls! You will get hurt, you should be soft not rough🤷...and that's why, I had to compromise alot of my dreams because of my father when I was at the age of 11-15yrs😶. And, yeah my mother and father had alot of fight like my mother should work in kitchen and my father should go to office🤷wtf? And I was always against this norms actually...which created more heated arguments between me and my father...He just tried to push me down just because I was a girl. This is what my father has learned from their family where a girl is being forced to work in the kitchen and do household chores😶...and yeah, One more thing, I was always shunned by my family they used to just criticize me and left me alone to cry🙂never supported me emotionally...went through depression and overcame it on my own...Now, I am changed...I am grounded, And I will do whatever I want to do🙂 It has been so painful for me...but I transformed and when came in spiritual journey I was more at peace☮️
@ttaicaa
@ttaicaa Месяц назад
Me too
@anacovarrubias9963
@anacovarrubias9963 2 года назад
I live in a traditional Mexican household and even though I’ve changed my parents ways slightly there is still a battle between men and women. Ive always felt like the black sheep of the family because one, I’m lesbian, and two I dress masculine. Not accepted especially if you’re a women. Here in America I express myself like so and I’m happy but when it comes to me traveling to Mexico to see the rest of my family. I am frowned upon because of my morals and because i don’t dress like any other girl. Im not feminine. Im also the one going into the military which is something that no one wants. It’s been a battle but I’m slowly winning. -Lilith in Taurus 4th house
@ranga1cat
@ranga1cat 11 месяцев назад
I have my sun, mars, Pluto, AND Lilith in my 4th house. Needless to say therapy has been essential in my life 😂
@andrerashad203
@andrerashad203 7 месяцев назад
My dad always wanted three girls, instead he got one boy. It showed. But he was also the black sheep of his family butbhe ended up internaliz8ng the projections thus accepting them and treating ne the same way he was treated for being myself.
@FreyaF...
@FreyaF... 2 года назад
My Lilith is in the 4th house. My entire family (aunts and cousins) has actually SHUNNED me in the old-fashioned way by not speaking, visiting, inviting me to family functions at all. This shunning has gone on for more than 20 years and, it took me a long time but, I'm fine with it now. I think very little of them. Their crap has gone on since I was a child and there's no valid reason for it. But their shunning also sets me free to be my true, natural self and I love and need that. I'm very proud of myself. Just FYI... my big three are as follows: Sun in Taurus ♉️ in the 5th house Moon in Leo ♌️ in the 9th House Rising sign is Sagittarius ♐️ .
@themsjada1
@themsjada1 2 года назад
I have lilith in cap, neptune, and uranus in 4th house. I felt so controlled in regards to meeting expectations of what I'm supposed to be. While my brother was allowed to do whatever he wanted and he ended up in jail. I physically fought my mother because she didn't like the fact that I didn't want to go to college. It's probably why as an adult I'm so ruthless and rebellious in regards to getting my needs and desires met.
@rodrigoborges3166
@rodrigoborges3166 2 года назад
Me too!!!
@reinajaay
@reinajaay 2 года назад
I can so relate to this and I also have Capricorn Lilith in the 4th house apart of my Capricorn Stellium (Sun, Mars, Mercury, Neptune, Uranus, North Node & Lilith) My mother was very hard on me, very strict. It felt like she praised my younger brother.
@thegenerouschild7846
@thegenerouschild7846 2 года назад
Yes my family can,t stand me telling the truth
@annedouglas4101
@annedouglas4101 2 года назад
Grew up in foster care. Family still do not talk or visit. My sister is the only one who phones and then she lies about our relationship, usually dumping and victimizing. 60 years old and I am at the point of letting her go entirely. Marriage was the same, husband died and family villianized me. Doesn't matter how much I twist and turn to accommodate them in my life. I am learning to be independent, emotionally, financially, socially. Victimhood has been a hard road. Teachers talk of loosing the title, even if the victimhood has been suffered. Like: you should be happy when you are depressed. For myself, set with the feeling, but like a cloud, know that this too shall pass. I really enjoy your work, thank you
@SaffronSageAstrology
@SaffronSageAstrology 2 года назад
I believe trying to feel happy or grateful when you just aren’t is a form of self abuse. It’s okay to acknowledge that you’ve been a victim when you truly have IMO. Thank you for the compliment.
@Jessica.Souths
@Jessica.Souths 21 день назад
"If you're honest and they're not honest", "if you have high integrity and they want to get away with stuff and they know you won't let them", "if you're smart and they don't value education you could threaten them" 🎯🎯🎯 naaaailed it!!
@Max-vp1vo
@Max-vp1vo 6 месяцев назад
I am a gay guy, and I was raised in a very religious family, so I had to stay in the closet until I was almost 30 (because I was afraid to lose their love if I came out, and I was very close to them so it was a big fear). That being said, when I came out they immediately accepted me and my boyfriend, and I'm even closer to my family now than I was growing up, so I hope the negative effects of Lilith in the 4th house don't apply to me anymore 😅
@ElVirgo
@ElVirgo 2 года назад
Wow this was sooo accurate in many levels, I'm the black sheep but also my mom has always been judged by my dad's family for not pleasing that traditional role she was supposed to have. There's also this annoyingly traditionadl male and female dynamic and me as a queer person it has been a problem since I was 5 years old and I loved pink and barbie dolls, haha. To know about the Lilith placement makes so much more sense now, it is very sad tho.
@ZDQNDADA
@ZDQNDADA 10 месяцев назад
Same
@vivianireis5536
@vivianireis5536 2 года назад
great, that's it, my home is under my skin. I am my own home. There were these traditional roles, my mother was not exactly happy with it; I have chosen to live in the highest thuth and my way of living is scaring for than :D thank you so much
@bamaboitube8572
@bamaboitube8572 Год назад
What do you mean your highest truth that sounds like some gay shit
@lilithhecataniangoddessesm187
@lilithhecataniangoddessesm187 2 года назад
Lilith in the 4th house *So ABOUT MY FAMILY* me and my cousins males and females USED TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP SIMILAR TO “THE BRATZ 3D SERIES” the energy of the Bratz group characters, but it’s FAMILY STYLE, so without the fashion things (tho I’m the fashionista one, but we all have different personalities) but we get along how the Bratz get along, it’s the same energy, but in a version where we are boys and girls, IT USED TO BE THAT PERFECT I NEVER RELATED TO ANYONE WITH FAMILY ISSUES. So there was this time when I had a tarot reading and I was told to be careful of MAD HEAVY HATERS AROUND ME and when they described WHO ARE THEY it described my cousins, they even mentioned cousins or other family member but the rest of the description matched each of them. I JUST ASSUMED THE READER MIGHT HAD MISUNDERSTOOD SOMETHING ABOUT MY COUSINS’ ENERGY because I least expect them to be my haters, since I already struggled what BEING HEAVILY BULLIED MEANS at school from elementary to high school and what an envious fake friend looks like in college, WHICH ALL HAS ZERO SIMILARITIES ON HOW THEY ACT AROUND ME, also someone I know who from the past ACCUSED A LOT OF THINGS THE VERY WRONG WAY told me I cannot trust my cousins they all backstabbed me, I assumed she just got it wrong again, maybe my cousins were talking about someone else, BUT I DID SOMETHING THAT IN ALL OF PEOPLE MY COUSINS’ BACKSTABBING TOWARDS ME WERE EXPOSED they happened to be bitter about me that I’m succeeding forwards in life, when they’re the ones I NATURALLY THOUGHT WOULD BE MY 1st group of FANS I THOUGHT they’ll have my back against haters, but they happened to be my GREATEST HATERS, and it all explain why I myself did not agree with the tarot reader and the gossiper BECAUSE they’re sooooooooo GOOD at hiding it, MASTER MANIPULATORS, masters of faking, LIKE IF MY LIFE IS A MOVIE, audiences will surely get shocked and have my Life Movie PLOT in the top 10 movie plot twist. Cause my cousins happened to be behind SOME but A LOT OF MY OTHER BLOCKED SUCCESSES, that I blamed on either my past bullies or that envious girl from college or her companies, all still staking me till I’m no longer in college that had my accounts hacked, CAUSE THE WAY I KNEW THEM, they’re the people that WOULD DO THOSE KINDS OF STUFFS, only to find from one of my cousins laptop that it was them all along, worst it they tried to cover up for each other from ME. Because I have a completely different career from them all it really standout. Our family used to be a combo of conservatives and liberals, now among us cousins I started as a conservative and grew up liberal, BASED ON MY LIFE EXPERIENCES, MY NATURAL PERSONALITY, and ways how I grew WITHOUT the influence of others, I was able to find my authentic self and embraced it, emphasized it, WHILE they had an opposite cycle as mine from liberals to conservatives. I am highly independent and knows my self-worth, while they are extremely DEPENDENT on each other and other more things I can’t relate with, THEY ALL ARE STUCK LOWERING THEIR WORTH FOR OTHERS just to be approved by society’s expectations. Which was me YEARS AGO, that I learned about and finally stood for who I truly am, that I’m enough to and don’t have to change for society, after ALL OTHER ENCOUNTERS I had faced, it made me not let others influence me no more. WHILE MY COUSINS GREW UP THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE WAY.
@nicolew4738
@nicolew4738 Год назад
Lilith in Capricorn 4th… had a stepdad who physically and psychologically abused me the one girl of three children… hated me. Threatened to cut up my moms face if she cheated on him (said in front of me) many other horrific things he did to my mom during this time. Mom abandoned the family to get away from him.
@BethHerndongoogle
@BethHerndongoogle 2 года назад
This was very accurate and helpful, recently turned 40 and am still working thru healing this energy ❤
@rozziemarie1
@rozziemarie1 Год назад
It is absolutely me, the last 3 you talked about. Especially the last one. I’m just about to be 57 and I’m still working on attachment issues and healing
@saxongreen78
@saxongreen78 2 года назад
My family are respectable, kind and pleasant people: but I don't have any contact with them. I just don't fit...they treat me like a child.
@SaffronSageAstrology
@SaffronSageAstrology 2 года назад
I can see how that could play out that way.
@clhandy
@clhandy 2 года назад
Perfect description I have Lilith in Virgo here and a cancer chiron so you can imagine! Great video
@SaffronSageAstrology
@SaffronSageAstrology 2 года назад
Ah yes I can imagine. Thank you!
@sashavictoria2405
@sashavictoria2405 Год назад
I have the same
@OneMoreLayman
@OneMoreLayman 10 месяцев назад
You’ve been on spot with me and I thank you profusely 🤲🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@lilithroux6340
@lilithroux6340 2 года назад
This was so very enlightening for me. Thank you! 🖤
@SaffronSageAstrology
@SaffronSageAstrology 2 года назад
So glad! 💗
@Brinasays121
@Brinasays121 2 года назад
This made perfect sense
@SaffronSageAstrology
@SaffronSageAstrology 2 года назад
I'm glad to hear that!
@jihyunchwe
@jihyunchwe 2 года назад
i have aries lilith in the 4th house and it had always been very destructive and abusive so yeah, im very well aware of it and it can be quite insane at certain point
@jenniferzweifel9557
@jenniferzweifel9557 2 года назад
Absolutely resonated thank you!
@SaffronSageAstrology
@SaffronSageAstrology 2 года назад
Perfect!
@michaelcostello3460
@michaelcostello3460 2 года назад
For me it showed up with my mother that was emotionally unavailable and a narcissistic sister that hated men and me a man in the middle
@4ngelvenom
@4ngelvenom 2 года назад
Are you spying on my therapy sessions cause wow SPOT on
@aroguereptilian
@aroguereptilian 3 месяца назад
i have this placement n it was the opposite of misogyny growing up. to show ur masculinity was to be shamed.
@CosmicThreader
@CosmicThreader 2 года назад
I perhaps unfortunately come from a traditional background where the sexes were pitted against one another. One hopes that we can move past all this crap and achieve some kind of balance when it comes to divine feminine and divine masculine. I dream of a more united relationship.
@valeinxj.n
@valeinxj.n Год назад
Can the person who has this placement itself be considered the symbolic embodiment of Lilith in the family system ? What if someone grew up in a family where women have a prominent role and are free to express themselves, and yet they reject this person.
@SaffronSageAstrology
@SaffronSageAstrology Год назад
yes, they can.
@karmasoulaan1818
@karmasoulaan1818 2 года назад
Capricorn moon Lilith in Taurus 4th house and I felt rejected in my childhood but now 19 -20 the gender roles were never switched it’s mostly my mother and finding out her real true manipulative ways it’s like a itch you can’t scratch
@newenglanddogmum7725
@newenglanddogmum7725 3 месяца назад
Deathly accurate
@HollySuga444
@HollySuga444 Год назад
This was so on point!!!
@JoDo777
@JoDo777 2 года назад
Thank You!
@ohawaiki
@ohawaiki 7 месяцев назад
My 3 year old baby is BML Libra in the 4th house. I love & adore him so so much. How can I help him?
@almagabriels8271
@almagabriels8271 Год назад
I know someone with Lilith in 4th (Leo). Abandoned/sold or kidnapped (not sure) as a baby... Sexually, mentally, emotionally, psychologically abused ... Trust me, this is heavy... 😖
@rosegold-beats
@rosegold-beats Год назад
4 is cancer
@קורינה7
@קורינה7 Год назад
Quite amazing! Thank you!
@kenag3434
@kenag3434 Год назад
SOOO accurate
@Hilhub
@Hilhub 8 месяцев назад
This has been my experience.
@MsQuinnMonroe777
@MsQuinnMonroe777 2 года назад
Accurate
@SaffronSageAstrology
@SaffronSageAstrology 2 года назад
💗
@DiamondsRexpensive
@DiamondsRexpensive Год назад
0:53 Lilith explained
@DiamondsRexpensive
@DiamondsRexpensive Год назад
Yeah to a certain degree there is a "You have to be a certain way" or you're wrong and something is wrong with you. Too judgemental for my liking. And also, hating money, success, change, and turning your house into a barn for humans and animals is preached in that system. Flipping gender roles, and women not dressing nice, instead men dressing nice. I care about money, success, living a religion free life, embracing that life changes, beautifying my house, and myself. I am the eldest, and both of my parents had their eldest sibling abuse them, so now they let my younger sibling get away with too much. Those all are threats. Funnily enough, I say I am adopted, but my face doesn't lie. My siblings didn't experience the same financial lack as a kid that I did.
@narcissisticawareness
@narcissisticawareness 5 месяцев назад
I was sold as a baby by my grandmother and my real mother loved us me and my twin but she was so abused in her life she couldn't take care of us or fight for us the family my grandmother gave us to my dad loved us but the mom and her kids rejected us they rejected our dad my real dad rejected us and my siblings on all 4 sides and even my kids they rejected with the excuse they look and act like me and they also rejected my grandson it's sad any family i had left won't dpeak to me because thevre been told so many lies its hard but im grateful i was able to walk away it does really hard because I didnt do anything but be born into pure dysfunction im 4 years into this many different layers but hopefully i can stay strong but its funny God always gives me friends that seem like family im also rejected sometimes by my exes families because usually the narrative is im not good enough and what is even weirder my twin abused her oldest and my poor niece has Lilith and chiron in the 4th house thats probably why we are so close but thank God my sister lost her kids to a good family now they can be loved I talk to them often there doing so good i just want them to have a chance its weird and sad and unfair
@amrarizvic6249
@amrarizvic6249 2 года назад
Well I’m the middlechild
@3mindgame
@3mindgame Год назад
Guys don’t do whatever they want. I wish! Lol
@esters8922
@esters8922 3 месяца назад
Lilith Aquarius in 4th House
@michaeljames2084
@michaeljames2084 Год назад
What if my tradition is christianity and I'm against going in that direction. So now there is friction in that aspect.
@ashleyobrien5791
@ashleyobrien5791 7 дней назад
@michaeljames2084 Yes, absolutely, I left the church and caused a divorce, and my family to shun me…. I never fit in with the fearful religious types. I love astrology, metaphysics etc. I am free now and though I mourn the loss of relationships- I have now a small circle of like minds ❤ my real family who see me and love me unconditionally
@purple.fantasy
@purple.fantasy Год назад
What about Lilith conjunct part of fortune in the 4th house?
@TheresaofTheWorld
@TheresaofTheWorld Год назад
Mine is 1st house 🙄. Is there video for this?
@mistymeaner1753
@mistymeaner1753 5 месяцев назад
Mom wanted 2 boys. So she had me. Named me misty, which reflects how disappointed she was from the moment she saw my genitals. Then my sister came. Named Dee. Just Dee. It's not short for anything. De- as a prefix means something is lacking. Defrost. Dehydrated. Devalue. You can see how our parents felt about us by our names. Then, they finally got my brother Kirk. Kirk means Church. Churches are righteous. Good. They're places of worship. And then to round out their pair of boys, they had my brother. You can almost guess his name. I'm the oldest daughter. He's the opposite. The youngest son. So, the opposite of me is named Win. Which is also a slap in my face, because I am the opposite of the Win. My mother has hated me since I learned to talk. My dad and I liked each other, but we weren't close. My mom's Lilith is in her 5th house, if I buse noon as her time of birth. I don't know what time she was born. Maybe her Lilith is in the 4th, too. Femininity and women and daughters are not her thing. She's a Capricorn. She's purely evil to her core. A Nurse Ratched or Flowers in the Attic Grandmother type. I see absolutely no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
@janine-theeternalwannabe
@janine-theeternalwannabe Год назад
Am I the only one this did not resonate at all? Lilith 4th house Gemini; normal family relations as a kid, both parents working and sharing household tasks, us kids were allowed to be what we were. I guess my "home" in this case is more that inside my skin 🥴
@devans2254
@devans2254 9 месяцев назад
How’s mercury and the moon doing and what houses are they in? If the aspects are good to mercury and the moon, Lilith isn’t as bad.
@janine-theeternalwannabe
@janine-theeternalwannabe 9 месяцев назад
@@devans2254 Thank you for your reply, Devans! My mercury aspects are conjunction with venus (orb 2°, in Libra 8H), opposition to Saturn (retro, Aries 2H) and square to ASC (Cap)... Moon is in opposition to the said ASC (orb 2°, in Cancer), square (orb to the Nodes North in Aries 2h (orb 3°) - and semi-sextile to Lilith. Whether these are good or bad, I wouldn't know 😳
@devans2254
@devans2254 9 месяцев назад
@@janine-theeternalwannabe mercury conjunct Venus is a great aspect. Your moon is well aspected so I’m sure this explains why things have been fine in your life. Mercury opposite or square saturn can make it easier to deal with negativity though. You’re probably a little more blunt than a lot of your peers.
@janine-theeternalwannabe
@janine-theeternalwannabe 9 месяцев назад
​@@devans2254 Thank you! Spot on, that comment on bluntness. In diplomacy I'm at Donald Duck level. But I 've been told I always see the worst first so with negativity I'm more of a specialist 😬 I watched this video again and started to recognize stuff ... So I guess I'm also a bit of a slow mind. Astrology is interesting as it makes one think from different angles. So a general big thank you to all youtube astrologers and to you, Devans, as well as everyone else that takes the trouble to participate in the view sharing!
@janine-theeternalwannabe
@janine-theeternalwannabe 9 месяцев назад
@@devans2254 Would an opposition (just above 4° orb) of Saturn and Mercury lead to the same direction? Would explain some of the accidental crap I've let out of my mouth... 😬 Well well. Good luck on your journey too!
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