For all the people arguing that "Gravity jumps over opponents all the time" is that he does it at the end of their sets. It not like 5 seconds in he goes for it. Lilou's actions were disrespectful for even cutting him off in the beginning of his set.
It has nothing to do with beginning or end of the sets. It’s a dangerous stunt that should only be attempted if you’re 100% certain that you won’t hit anyone.
Well, what did people expect? Whenever a risky move is pulled off, praise like no other is given. If they are really against risky actions like this, then they should have given this type of speech AGES ago. If Lilou succeeded jumping over Gravity, the crowd would have gone wild.
I don't know why Gravity or Thesis messing up has anything to do with what I said. And NOTHING is 100% Every single move has its risks. Some just higher than others. You aren't even talking about the same thing. I am referring to praise given to a dancer after a risky move is done successfully. Because people WANT that praise, they will do risky moves. Some will succeed, others will fail. Moy only said something this time because things almost got violent. Look at Morris vs Taisuke at BC ONE in 2011. People cheered and the commentator gave a sound of approval.
All I am saying is that there's no consistency. When Yaman crashed into Pocket, no one came out to give a speech. It was because no one got mad. If Gravity just brushed it off, you think anyone else would have cared? And people actually CHEERED when Yaman crashed into Pocket. Another example would be a bboy tried pulling off a kicked over the opponent's head like what Lilou does sometimes and accidentally kicked the bgirl in the head. No one got hurt, so no speeches. The term "risky move" pretty much defines it as NOT 100%. And of course I disagree with what Lilou did, all I am saying is that the bboy community says one thing and does another. Another one, Morris flipped over Taisuke and hit him in the face. NO SPEECHES. Another? Okay, Neguin flipped over Ronnie and pushed him out of his freeze. NO SPEECHES. Robin shoved Hong 10? NO SPEECHES.
You want a trial for every murder? Wouldn't that be tiresome? They didn't lose because of their actions, they lost because they weren't as good. Robin would have lost to Hong 10 anyways, Yaman would have lost to Pocket anyways, Lilou barely showed anything and failed this thread against Alkolil. Morris WON against Taisuke. Once again, unless someone gets angry like Gravity did, no one cares.
I'm pretty sure the main reason this was so blown up is because Gravity and Lilou already have had beef, and Gravity didn't just let it go, they stopped the whole damn battle
i like how thesis wrote #fucklilou after this......like didnt you do the exact same to Lagaet in 2012? The only difference was thesis made it over...? Everyone bitching about this, but guess what, everyone would've gone crazy if Lilou landed it. Like c'mon, gravity pulls this shit, thesis, lilou, tata....
yea but whats the difference? lol they actually make it over because they can actually flip, lilou cant, he bit off more than he could chew always does and is only more of a bigger deal because lilou although a great bboy battles and touches people all the time.
they make it over because they got lucky as well. Lilou was just diving over, he wasnt flipping, if gravity was still on the ground, lilou wouldve made it over. its just all these ppl condemning the action, if that were the case, those other bboys shouldnt be flipping over anyone either, and they sure as hell shouldnt be saying fuck them....
+seymourglass26 i agree, theres a big difference between the two, most people wait fir an opening, plan it out then execute but lilou just threw caution to the wind and went for it and thats reckless and irresponsible
It's a little bit different. Lagaet was not dancing when that happened, he was telling the judges who to vote for, so was being a dick. Gravity was mid set. If thesis didn't land it, then yeah Lagaet has a right to be pissed but I'd have almost no sympathy for him because his set appeared over, so he had a better awareness of thesis coming. Lilou screwed up Gravity's set, Thesis did not do that to Lagaet, regardless of hitting him or not. Stunts like this shouldn't be done period because people can get seriously hurt
i get that lilou has a bad track record in his bboy career but you can't really hate him for flipping over gravity. Everyone would be cheering instead of booing because it's dangerous had lilou flipped successfully. Double standards IMO. And lilou was showing his sorry ass to gravity after that. There are always risks to every move, not like people blame gravity for flipping over opponents that he could have hurt. And Moy's speech was fuken great
Right. TOTALLY worth seeing Gravity, one of the greatest athletes to do this thing, in a wheelchair because he needed a moment to spaz out. Please. Grow the hell up. Raw still requires respect or its just anarchy. Period.
Reppin sans it's dangerous either way weather you clear someone or not only time it should be done is with your crew, And it's a good thing In disguise that this happened cause now bgirls and bboys will think twice about trying to do this type of burn
seymourglass26 even still clearing someone good burn but there's that level of not knowing what a person is gonna do in their set unless you're doing a commando all good. That's why I teach my kids never do these types of burns on someone even when you think you can make it dangerous for you and the person on the floor
seymourglass26 people get the point but these types of burns have little reward and way too many risk. Just simply boils down to keep in mind the safety of yourself and the other person
People get angry about this scene. But i'm sure that will be a classic after 10 years. i love that dance. so hype. The collision was an awesome moment.
O lilou foi fazer uma graça mano, repetir o que o gravity tinha feito, não foi de propósito, ele achou que daria pra pular por cima sem encostar no gravity mas deu errado, ele até aparece pedindo desculpas depois
Oh shit, is that Physicx? Anyone know who all the other judges were? Would be dope if events like these had promotional posters with all the info on it like Korean jams do!
there's just certain personality's that get hype, don't mean lilou is a dog for youth. certain personality's get offended when blocked unexpectedly, don't mean gravity is a chump. real talk. that's real hip hop. teach these kids to be real and unlimited in their virtues due to what God gave them hahaha.. ain't nothing so wrong with a little hype.
Much respect for Bboy Gravity for restraining himself. I can really appreciate Moy's message, he just forgot to thank Gravity for restraining himself. I just gained whole new level of respect and admiration for Gravity and lost a whole lot of the same for Lilou. Yeah, everybody makes mistakes, but Lilou's ego has run rampant long enough, it's reaching new heights - pretty soon his ego will be able to start dancing and competing at his level, and he'll start a new crew with his ego :P. Someone that egotistical always can always benefit from a good ass-whooping to level the ego out! Don't let your pride get too inflated boys and girls, someone, some day, might just make you swallow it.
The Funny thing is that Lilou is a Massive role model in France and if you follow his channel and the charity work he does all around the world educating youngsters, You will hardly find anyone like him but let's face it the Americans hate French bboys hence why you hardly see French bboys competing in the USA. let's be real Lilou would smoke Gravity
true that ! lilou is a good man and a brilliant bboy ..this was just the hype speaking for him ..which could've happened to everyone ..so condemn the action and not his whole being ..and bloody move on ..
When you see something for the very first time your mind processes it slower not to mention all the adrenaline in the moment of a battle and so when gravity hit that freeze, in lilou's mind it probably lasted a very long time so he thought he had enough time to jump over gravity but his body wasn't as fast as his mind so he didn't make it.
Esa jugarreta Lilou ya la ah echo otras veces, pero esta visto que algún día le iba a jugar en contra y la verdad se merecía la piña de Gravity por no respetar las entradas. Tiene tan subido el ego que para el no hay reglas. Que se yo... Igual el contexto no daba para reaccionar así peeeeero... En una batalla de barrio eso era trifulca jajaja
I believe that they both have their share of responsibility for making the whole situation really big and almost turn it into a fight. Yes, Lilou was reckless, but as many have pointed out: had he landed the move the crowd would´ve gone crazy and everything would´ve been ok, in fact, his team would´ve probably won, not so much for the skill but for the fact that Lilou was already in their heads (I feel both Gravity and Zeku where falling in his game), but... he failed, he hit Gravity and everything just blew out. I think Gravity´s reaction was understandable but I would say it was not the best, Lilou fuck it up big time, but it was a mistake he was not trying to hit Gravity on purpose. So they are both responsible for how big this drama turned out to be, they are both responsible for, as Moy pointed out, seting an example... and in the end, I feel both of them were able to actually show a nice attitude, Lilou by apologizing and Gravity for calming down and not kicking Lilou´s ass.... Shit happens, man...
Monster Hunter they're not the only Bboys from France, there's a lot of respectful bboys in France, but Soso is not the good example you know, i'm french and i don't like him, but ALL the french bboys are not like him. And for what lilou done/does (excuse my english) i don't find that it's as disrespectful as that, well he failed, but a lot of bboys are doing that and nobody cares, but this time they care because he failed..And he was sorry for it, he's not fully disrespectful, he just failed (an enormous fail)
Long story short, he planned it right. He went for the jump as he hit his freeze. Just bad luck. Don't double standard cause if lilou got dq over failing that gravity should get dq for jumping over the hallow. If someone does the same thing regardless of the outcome the consequence should be the exact same
LMBO people hatting on Lilou, ya don't know who Gravity is then. AHA. He is no better of a bboy. I'm no big fan of Lilou either but, I've seen him come to his senses. If you watch the whole clip, Gravity never goes up to show respect to Lilou even though Lilou went to apologize. Smh. Bangwangoners on Gravity.
So Gravity does flips over other bboys and sometimes hit the opponent by accident yet the crowd goes wild. But when Lilou tried to do so and fail, Gravity has a problem with it. I know Gravity loves throwing punches rather than throwing wack signs and Lilou being a douche as always by try to "burn" a Bboy but you have to give it to both Bboys, they knew ... Gravity could of punch Lilou but he backed off and Lilou of course saying sorry. Moy did what he had to do to clear things up for some peeps that didn't saw what I saw but I already had seen both Bboys knew what they had to show these audience that Bboying is still alive but is controlled in a somewhat decent manner. Some may disagree but this is what Hip Hop and Bboying is. Would rather see them throwing punches and shooting leads around? Respect for both Bboys!
+Aaron Ace Clausen hahahaha yeah the crowd would have gone wild. But he couldn't pull that one off, cuz the gap was 2 narrow. He has an attitude that bothers me cuz he think he is the shit even though he ain't shit no more
LMBO people hatting on Lilou, ya don't know who Gravity is then. AHA. He is no better of a bboy. I'm no big fan of Lilou either but, I've seen him come to his senses. If you watch the whole clip, Gravity never goes up to show respect go Lilou even though Lilou went to apologize. Smh. Bangwangoners on Gravity.
+TL Yang yo why u should respect 2 somebody who was bitching, then throw u a hat and furthermore makes u crash during ur set, what kinda stupid as reaction would that be. Lilou just apologised cut he went far over the line. Why didn't he apologise to Alkolil for hit him with a hat on the face? Ain't about gravity neither is all about RESPECT
Flipping over people mid dance is just stupid in general. Yes, sure it's cool if it lands but if it doesn't it's a guaranteed fight starter or a possible accident and in this case also a disqualification for your whole team. It's simple, try stupid shit and yes these things are most likely to happen then. Unfortunately Lilou tends to do these stupid things and this time he got punished for it.
Moy lol the parents of that kid are the leaders not YOU if the parents dont calculate that there can be tention in a sports Event then it would be kinde of naiv lol (please do not lecture me that this is a culture, cypher etc. its almoust all supercrew, everbody wants to winn here). And if the juges disqualified Lilous Team for the risky move (which was correct), then why not gravitys for the reaction? and why Thesis Winns after touching Issey?...... rules Need to Count for all or for no one..... if we Need no winners tell me why you are juging?! let me guess: Money? we dont Need winners we Need Money? nice how you take the opportunity to promote your Center. im very sure its a good Thing! We Need People who practis what they preach NOT so called leaders who can talk nice (no offence its just what i see here)........ thanks for reading (sorry if my english is incorrect)
That Moy's speech is pure PC bullshit. He just cleared a plain guilty fucker of his guilt just because. Good luck with this approach. To show a good example they should be instantly diqualified, end of story.
Lilou do bad, but please invit more french bboys to Silverback and Freestyle Session, Asian, Americans seems like robots, the french bboys are showmans, yes they are disrespectful but they are the uniques that create, tension passion and alter the public.
Man i understend and that you like french bboys its good i like a lot of them too but who is a robor for you in Asia USA ?Especcialy at this event the all dope creative interesting bboys and for me it was very intersting and cool to watch this event)
The way I see it, Gravity started it by jumping over another bboy like that. If you guys are gonna say Lilou could've injured gravity, so can gravity to the other bboy. PS fk Gravity.
The world isn't a lolipop factory, and neither is Hip Hop. IF you want to have Breaking competitions where everyone is happy and cool with each other, fine, but don't call it Hip Hop because Hip Hop was not, is not, and will never be meant to be a lolipop factory.
LMBO people hatting on Lilou, ya don't know who Gravity is then. AHA. He is no better of a bboy. I'm no big fan of Lilou either but, I've seen him come to his senses. If you watch the whole clip, Gravity never goes up to show respect go Lilou even though Lilou went to apologize. Smh. Bangwangoners on Gravity.
