That's great feedback and validation for me. I appreciate you taking the time to make the comment. I appreciate your time! Have a great evening my friend. Best regards
Hi Scott. I tried these on a pair of recurve limbs and although I wasn't getting handshock they did make the bow quieter. As for them not staying stuck, well mine did and were still on when I passed on the limbs to upgrade to new ones. I think, in the instructions it says that if you remove them they won't stick again which is understandable. I have seen one archer on youtube who had two sets of limbsavers on his limbs which may result in totally illiminating handshock but if you don't like the look of one set on your bow you won't like the look of two. All the best Scott.
Graham, thanks for the comment. The reviews were all over the map with these things. I figured it wouldn't hurt to try them out. I definitely will not be adding anymore to the bow. It will now be known as my frankenbow LOL. Between the dynaflight string and the addition of these, it's at a manageable level now. I think I can live with it now. I don't think anything will completely cure it. My friend i really appreciate your time. I hope you have a great day. Best regards
@@ScottWinters The MAIN reason the results by amateur long bow / recurve archer RU-vid'ers is '"all over the shop"', is because many, many amateurs fit their Broadband Limbsavers dampeners far, far, too close to their handle / / riser. 🤦♂️ But you, sir, placed yours at the Goldilocks zone. 😎
One thing that will calm a long bow is a selway slide on quiver. It is rubber and slides over the limbs down past the fade outs. It adds a bit of weight and the rubber really deadens the bow shock. Works really well on my longbow.
I was thinking that one of those would help. I thought about it but failed to mention it in the video. I really appreciate the comment my friend. Thank you, have a great day. Best regards
You can add more than one pair dampners to your bow. I have a crossbow. I know not the same thing. I added 3 pairs to the limbs and it was night and day difference in both vibration and sound reduction. After that I also put 2 pairs on my compound bow with the same results. Now I was told the more you add that it reduces the feet per second of the bow. I personally didn't see a difference. I don't have a chronograph to check. If it helps you enjoy your bow more it maybe worth adding more.
Thank you for the insight my friend. I've had pretty good results with the two so far. Without them on that bow is a beast to shoot. It's manageable at this point. I need to chrono the bow to see what speed loss there may be, just as a curiosity. I really appreciate your time and the great comment. I hope you have a great day my friend. Best regards
I’m glad it seems to be working for you so far, another option is to use your finger string like Mr Handy. Thank for sharing have a great week God Bless my friend.
Definitely tried the finger sling. That bow jumps forward with a lot of force and was extremely uncomfortable using the sling. I may try it again with the dampeners installed and see if it still acts the same. I think between the fast flight string and these it's manageable now. I appreciate your time my friend. Have a great day, best regards
I've never had a shock problem with my 45lb black ridge but I did have to put limbsavers on my 45 lb samick discovery because of noise. They worked wonders.
Thanks for the comment and sharing your experience. I must have gotten one that’s a little off in the limbs. It has mellowed some after repeated shooting. I have used a finger sling with it at times and that has made it more comfortable to shoot for longer periods of time. Have a great day my friend. Best regards
That's awesome my friend. I was surprised by the results. They don't make the bow perfect, but they do seem to make a difference. I appreciate your time my friend. Have a great evening. Best regards
I had the same problem with a D shape long bow. I Was using fast flight. I called a friend who knows a lot and he said use a B-50 or B-55. I put a B-55 on and wow! It was a complete different bow. It sounded better shot better and hand shock much better. Long bows generally like heavy arrows too.
Awesome, thanks for your input and taking the time to comment! Much appreciated my friend. I think I have it about as tame as I'm going to get it. I can at least live with it now. I have shot b55 on this bow before and didn't notice a change in the hand shock. I may have just gotten one with issues. That's the fun of this, experimenting till you get it how you want it. Thanks again my friend. Have a great day. Best regards
@@ScottWinters What you have done in THIS video permits your long bow to retain all its speed. ( if you HAD made the switch to B55 dacron then you would have LOST SPEED ) 😇👍
Nice vid Scott! I'm shooting about 550gr arrows in my Black Ridge 45#. The thing with me is I don't really feel any distracting pain or shock in the hand, but the sound it makes is almost a 'clunk' when the string is released. It's certainly a different experience than the other bows I shoot. I do enjoy it though. Hope you will be enjoying yours also with the reduction in shock. Thanks for sharing!
Hey my friend, thanks for commenting. I must have gotten one with issues. The addition of FF string was a great improvement over the dacron string, that's when it was painful to shoot. Since then and with the addition of the vibration dampeners it's seems a lot better now than when I first got it. I'll definitely keep it and shoot it from time to time. I do like it, but I think my recurves have spoiled me a little, LOL. I really appreciate your time my friend. Have a great day! Best regards
A heavier draw weight would likely help as well. The limbs are essentially too flimsy for the material, a heavier draw weight would have more substantial limbs though not much beefier and would calm down faster. Another benefit to heavier draw weight bow is that they are moor forgiving to your release.
I am in the process of adding more content. Stepped back for a while , but getting my stride back. I appreciate you my friend. Have a great day. Best regards.
Thank you my friend for taking the time to comment. I'm pleasantly surprised by the way they work. Definitely not a bad investment. I appreciate your time my friend. Best regards
6.5 inches out from the limb bolts. I use some simple string puffs, brace height ~ 8 inches and 10 g/lb arrow set up and its quieter. @@dkveracity65able
I guess I have been lucky since the little bit of hand shock I have had on one of my recurves went away when I put Tennis Racquet material on the handle. I'm assuming that my new Mollegabet Bow that I built really doesn't qualify as a Long Bow since I made it only 55" nock to nock, and only 37lbs at 26" so it really can't store enough energy to create bad hand shock? I don't know, but it is pretty smooth1 I also heard of people putting a cheap Dr. Scholl's foot pad under the grip on the riser with great success in eliminating hand shock! Maybe that with what you did will take it completely away?
Hand shock can affect a lot of bows, it's just how much each one has or how noticeable it is. The Scholls foot pad is a genius idea. Anything that aslbsorbs the vibration will help get rid of what you feel in the hand. I do notice an improvement using them over not. I really appreciate your time my friend. I hope you have a great evening brother. God bless and best regards
Great video, Scott. I second those who are suggesting heavier arrows. I'm not sure what yours weigh, but a lot of archers who use traditional longbows shoot arrows that are 11-12 grains per pound. The heavy arrows soak up some of the extra energy that would otherwise be wasted by the inefficient old-school limb geometry. Additionally, it might be good to have a seasoned longbow archer shoot your bow to determine if the hand shock is normal. Traditional longbows will almost always have some. Perhaps you are just more sensitive to it.
From what I’ve noticed, if the surface is cleaned well before installing them they should last a good while. I’ve not had any issues with these. Appreciate your comment and your time. Have a great evening. Best regards
Yeah I've thought about the tiller as well, unfortunately there is no way to adjust it. These plus the fast flight go a long way to help reduce the shock some. I appreciate time my friend. Have a great day. Best regards
@Matt's wild point of view I was thinking the SAME THING !! Unfortunately, as Scott said, there is NOTHING that can be done about it. But as Scott said, "for a few bucks, I can fit these things into my limbs" 😎
I was thinking about tiller too. Most reviewers say it is a pleasant bow to shoot with minimal hand shock. That makes me wonder if Scott got a poor example that was incorrectly tillered.
I still have the longbow and shoot it on occasion. I have wanted to try the Selway quivers but never get around to purchasing one. I am sure it would help to slow the limb vibrations. I appreciate your time my friend. Have a great day. Best regards
I had a Ben Pearson recurve and the hand shock was horrible. I also had a Very nice American Supreme target bow that was fitted with a port for the long stabilizer. Just happened that the Pearson had a port that fit the stabilizer. In a word or two...Add the stabilizer and the hand shock is eliminated. I also discovered that my expensive recurve target bow had some hand shock w/o the stabilizer. I sold the Ben Pearson and kept the American and the stabilizer. Is it possible to drill for a port to screw in a stabilizer?
Thanks for the comment and the question. I appreciate you sharing your experience and how you fixed the issue. I guess all bows have it to some degree. It may be possible to drill and tap the riser to fit a stabilizer. From what I have seen most all recurve riser come that way. A stabilizer definitely helps absorb the vibrations. Without a drill press I would be hesitant to attempt it. It’s been my experience that if I can break it I probably will. I appreciate your time my friend. Have a great day! Best regards.
Only thing that helps is a Selway, Thunderhorn, or GN quiver because they have big thick rubber attachment parts. Depending on which model you get the Selway is a little more cumbersome to take on and off but it will kill the most vibration.
It definitely seemed to quiet it down a bit. I will do some test shots inside to see. I have some older video that I can compare to. I appreciate your time my friend. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Have a great evening. Best regards
Thanks for the question. I would estimate it in the 20 to 25% range. Doesn’t eliminate it all but it is more manageable now. I appreciate your time. Have a great evening. Best regards
As you already know I shoot all my recurve and longbows with a finger sling. I imagine that I wouldn't be able to shoot some of my longbows if it were not for the finger sling because of how much hand shock there is. I can't say that I am a good judge of hand shock because I have never really felt it but, some of my bows tug on my finger sling more than others. When I shoot my 68" longbows I feel like my fingers are almost being ripped off (exaggerating but you get the idea). So...the point of this long tangent, LOL, is have you tried shooting the longbow with a finger sling?
I have definitely tried the finger sling with this long bow. I experienced the same thing! It felt like it was going to rip my fingers out of joint. Very uncomfortable to say the least. I need to try the sling with these installed and see if it helps. The shock i have experienced with this bow feels like bees stinging your hand. I still can't bring myself to let it go, LOL. I will give you an update on the sling test my friend. I appreciate you Handy. Have a great evening my friend!
Mark, thanks for asking. Yes the fast flight string definitely helped in reducing the hand shock the bow had initially. The difference between the dacron and ff on this bow is indeed noticeable. Before I made the switch to dyna flight I had no desire to use it. Adding these helped in reducing it more. I would give it about a 3 maybe a 4. It does help in taming it a bit more, but I don't think I will ever get it to where my recurves are. I appreciate the question my friend. Have a great day. Best regards.
@@ScottWinters Thx. I'm following this with interest, since I am just getting ready to get back into longbows. (I think I'm going to go for the SAS Pioneer). Been reading a lot. I would try heavier arrows, too. I saw a guy who did a neat thing by adding nylon cord to his carbon arrows. Didn't change the spine, but gave him a heavier arrow. He was a hunter, which is why he wanted the extra weight. It's worth a try, tho. Also, they say you are better off changing your shooting style to Howard Hill method: Palm on handle, slight bend in the Bow arm to absorb shock. IDK. Haven't had a chance to try it yet tho. Keep on posting!
Mark, thank you for the insight my friend. Years ago I heard about people adding nylon cord and if i remember correctly flexible nylon tubing. I honestly forgot about that. That's a great idea that I will definitely give a go. Thanks for the memory jog. I'd love to hear about the bow if you get it. I enjoy hearing about others journey, gear, and especially insights gained along the way. It's comments like these that really add value to the community. Thank you my friend. I hope you have a great evening. Best regards
· When you look at Olympic recurve shooters at TOP LEVEL competition events, a few will use the RECURVE broadband dampeners by Limbsavers, but MANY will use the ( non-recurve ) / [regular] Broadband limbsavers, which are intended for compound bows. . . . . . . I fitted the [compound bow sized] Broadband Limbsavers to MY Recurve target bow, and for me, they made a huge difference !!!! Note :- Many, many, RU-vid amateur long bow /& recurve archers fit these far, far, tooooo CLOSE to the handle / riser of their bows (where the benefit is NOT seen). 👎 😡 Grrrr !!! In YOUR particular situation ( long bow ) you were BETTER OFFF to use the RECURVE Limbsavers because YOUR BOW's limbs are narrow, and therefore the COMPOUND sized Limbsavers would look UGLY, due to being tooo WIDE compared to your narrow limbs. 😇👍👍 🌟 ⭐ Well done ✔ ALSO ..... for YOUR NEEDS ... The position where you GUESSED to go with, was 100% PEFECT for YOUR needs. (( further TOWARDS the limb TIPS enhances the dampening effect to a much improved degree, BUT tooo far out towards the limb TIPS can negatively impact on the bow's speed. But you hit the Goldilocks ZONE, quite by accident. )) 😇👍👍 🌟 ⭐ Well done ✔
My friend, thank you for the insightful comment! I really appreciate your time. You are 100% correct that I accidentally got in the sweet spot for these. I had never used anything like these on any of my bows. I was desperate to lessen the hand shock because I like this bow and did not want to see it go. They definitely helped lessen the felt hand shock. I really appreciate the positive feedback, it means a lot to me. I hope you have a great day my friend! Best regards
Thank you for the comment and advice . I've been using my finger sling as of late when I shoot it. It definitely is better but still a beast to shoot. I appreciate your time my friend. Have a great evening! Best regards
